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How come when people accuse Chomsky of supporting Pol Pot they dont quote him or cite the work?
Isn't that a somewhat glaring omission?
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>>8667367

Because no one has any legitimate criticisms of him, he's simply right.
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>>8667367
When mom interrupts your masturbation, you don't want a discussion you just want her to go away so you can get back to fucking yourself. So you imply she supports some crazy fascist regime.
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>>8667367

>The question of whether or not Noam Chomsky supported the Khmer Rouge is not as clear as either his critics or his defenders would like to pretend. His critics frequently extract a handful of quotes from "Distortions at Fourth Hand" or After the Cataclysm and suggest that Chomsky was an enthusiastic advocate for the Cambodian communists. His defenders, meanwhile, limit their collections of quotes to Chomsky's disclaimers and qualifiers, conveniently ignoring the underlying...
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>"Sam Coll was born in 1989, in Dublin, Ireland. He graduated in English and Art History from Trinity College Dublin in 2011 and later obtained a Masters degree in Anglo-Irish literature, writing his dissertation on Samuel Beckett and sentimentality."

Excerpt from debut novel:

>"He had been dreaming of the cats when the scratching of the dog at his door awoke him. He awoke, by degrees and blearily, to find himself ensconced on his couch, awash with a medley of tins and tang of staling booze, his...
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>>8667353

>ensconced
>porky palm
>sweat of his clasp
>slimy balm
>oozing pore

Purple as fuck.
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>>8667353
>Author Audio Excerpt: https://soundcloud.com/sam-coll/abode-of-fancy-eighteen

Oh Christ almighty

Irishfag here, nobody, fucking nobody talks like this. It sounds like he's trying to do an impression of a James Joyce recording which I suppose is a summary of his life
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>>8667355
Ree get the fuck off my board hemingway carver fags are the fucking scum of this earth just fucking go write a story for the new yorker and stop shitting up my board theres nothing """""purple"""" about descriptive writing fuck off iceberg theory scum just leave reeeeee

What does Nagel refer to when he mentions the first kind of way to address this question?

In the book this is from (A Very Short Introduction to Philosophy) he makes it clear that he has no interest in getting into which author said what but would rather focus on what was said and the "puzzling questions" of philosophy themselves, without reference to individual authors.

Even so, I want to read up more on this particular view. If it is even something that is commonly held.
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Here is some more for context.
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>>8667341
What do you want to know exactly?
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>>8667341
>>8667351
Holy shit, I put in the wrong image, my bad.

The OP was meant to refer to THIS image.

The description of the idea he outlines under the title of "First", I'd like to know what it is conventionally called in academic circles, a quick name that people use to refer to it? So I can read more about it?

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I have this story. I have this story. I have this story. I can’t break free from it. I am woman. I am divine goddess. I am Gaia. Your mother, your sister. Your lover. I am womb. The portal to all life. Pure, consuming love. I am of this body. My supple breasts, my sturdy legs. My feet that have danced me through life. My sexuality. My heartbreak. My story. My story. My lineage. I am love. Sending love and receiving love, daily.To myself, to my tribe. To my god. In a state of continence, yes. For now. Without touching. Just to feel. Just to feel. Just to feel each other with...
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>>8667271
Shut the fuck up and get back in the kitchen.
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>>8667276
haha nice one :^)
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Yes, but how do your farts smell?

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I'll be honest, being on /lit/ makes me feel shit about both what I read and write. I'm a crossboarder from /tg/ and can handle the bantz there, but here the entire attitude feels toxic. Enjoyment, no matter what you're enjoying is incorrect. Don't know, can I just not take the bantz or is /lit/ actually a toxious community?
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>>8667266
I've found this to be the most unilaterally accepting board. My literary opinions are enthusiastically accepted, my critiques are found useful. and my subtle shitposts get many keks and (You)'s.

You need to read more. Try and stop subvocalizing, kid, it's slowing you to a snail pace.
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>>8667266
you just have to come to terms with the fact that, at the end of the day, what is "good" and "bad" literature is completely up to you. stop caring so much about what other people think, read the things you like, and realize that the opinions of people on this board literally don't matter. it's fun for discussion, but don't take it so seriously
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What are you a woman? Fuck this "toxic environment" shit, every board is plagued with elitism shitposting. Why do you care so much what other people think?

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Poe v. Lovecraft

Who's spookier?
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Stirner is the ultimate spooker
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>>8667234
>poe
>lovecraft

>not reading the true master of horror
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King

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am i missing something or is this mostly bad?

there are definitely good lines scattered throughout, but the sheer amount of crap is overwhelming.

i don’t want to be a snob about this guy. help me understand lit...
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Don't worry, critics didn't appreciate it at the time it was published, either. You're just another wrong critic in a long line of them.
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>BE composed—be at ease with me—I am Walt Whitman, liberal and lusty as Nature;
Not till the sun excludes you, do I exclude you;
>Not till the waters refuse to glisten for you, and the leaves to rustle for you, do my words refuse to glisten and rustle for you.

>My girl, I appoint with you an appointment—and I charge you that you make preparation to be worthy to meet me,
>And I charge you that you be patient and perfect till I come.
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>>8667217
Christ this is fantastic shit. OP you're a faggot hack

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So what happened with the samizdat? I just finished the book tonight and more or less loved it up to the end, where it felt like 100 pages were just plain missing. I reread the first "Year of Glad" chapter, and the bit about Hal and Gately digging up J.O.I's head was enlightening, but it seems like there's too much of a gap for the book to feel at all complete.

>inb4 the plot isn't the """""""point"""""""
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Or was absolutely the entire book narrated by J.O.I. out of some conceit of wanting his final film to be viewed as Entertaining, or something?
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>>8667100
i'm not reading this because of spoilers and i'm leaving the thread after this, maybe view this in the archive later on because i'm reading IJ right now, 43 pages in and loving it except wardine be cry.
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>>8667105
Eh. Spoiler's don't actually spoil this book all that much, as you'll find out. The things that are surprising in it will surprise you either way, purely by the way that they're written. Glad you're liking it so far - honestly, it took me getting halfway through before I was really into it and catching most everything that's going on.

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What books take me away from this nightmarish reality?
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The Holy Bible.
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>>8667030
Critique of Pure of Reason. You'll know that the reality as in things in themselves you speak of is a meme.
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>>8667030
Wind and the Willows

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or is he /Pol's wet dream?
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He's a fucking racist Natzi white supremeasist. What do you fucking think?
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>>8667010
Yes.

>>8667017
wew lad
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>>8667017
no he wasn't you dumbass, he was a radical traditionalist

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If ayy lmaos could communicate with humans, how would they view our literature?
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All at once, non-judgmentally.
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>>8666991
With their eyes I assume
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they'd probably laugh their asses off

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How well-read are ya?
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I read Infinite Jest...
...twice
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I don't subvocalize, so I'm extremely well read. Admittedly I dropped Finnegans wake earlier this year, but otherwise I have absorbed all of your memes.
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>>8666946
You have to go back.

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Religioud anons, why are you religious? And do you believe your belief is rational?

I want to be convinced that there ontologically exists an objective reality, characterized by morality, order and a deity. I am extremely new to philosophy, but I cannot help but fall into the pitfalls of scientific reasoning alone, which kind of leads me to nihilism. But at one point I realized that nihilism cannot be true - so how do other philosophers approach about this problem, too?
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>>8666906
>one point I realized that nihilism cannot be true

oh boy
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if you're ready to drink the kool-aid, try this book

it's not a perfect book, and as with most apologists he gets a little out of his depth when he tries to talk about evolution, but it's still worth a read
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>>8666906
Read Rene Guenon, that is all you need to understand how to be religious from an intellectual standpoint.

Philosophy only leads to nihilism, so don't go too far down that road unless you are able to get out.

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Do you think Schopenhauer wrote 'On Women' before or after he went bald?
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>his Heihachi style cut wouldn't get all the chicks
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>>8666874
obviously the latter

god he is a pseud
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>>8666878
When does your seminal philosophy get published, anon?

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Because of the incredible number of coincidences in my life and the sacred geometry patterns I sometimes see against white walls and bright lights, I wonder if I'm dead or in a simulation or i never recovered from that overdose I had and I'm in a coma

I wondered how I could reassure myself that what's going on is real, and I couldn't think of any reason

I'm really scared

I might be seeing patterns in my life that aren't there but what if they're real and my life is being made up or manipulated FUCK

any book recommendations...
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Start with the Greeks

On a serious note, why does that scare you? What difference does it make if this is all just happening in your head? Personally I kinda hope that's true.
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>>8666869
I don't want to be in a coma or dead
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>>8666884
Descartes's Meditations.

However going through philosophy's period of fascination of how do we know what we know might not be the most helpful since you have this emotion attached to the idea, and that should be dealt with first.

I'd recommend staying hydrated, working out, and learning how to focus on breathing so that you can manually calm yourself and get immediate relief.

Also, there is a reason to doubt your own doubts. Some questions are stupid to ask. For example, do you have...
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Does my reading list get /lit/ approval?
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>>8666858
>Harris
>Dawkins
>Sowell

reddit
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>>8666858
>no Malthus
>no Machiavelli
Trash list as-is, too

>Dawkins
>Letter a Christian Nation and The End of Faith
This must be reddit-core
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>>8666858
There is no way this isn't ironic

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I read John Green books up until I was 16 and Dan Brown books until I was 17. Feels good to get this weight off my chest, phew!
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WE ARE ALL HITLER
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>>8666833
>uses a mac
what an homo lmao
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>>8666833
When I was 13 my mom gave me some collaboration book between John Green and another guy about faggots, and it made me so uncomfortable I couldn't finish it.

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Can anyone recommend me a novel or story where a character refers to themselves in the third person.
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don quixote
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>>8666847
oh... really
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>>8666851
>it ain't me

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Franzen sounds like a Nazi name

SS-Oberführer Hans Franzen
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He's a white male austenian in the 21st century. His books are shit.
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>I stood up and ran outside. I made it to a trash can outside the gym, five feet from the double doors, and heaved toward Gatorade bottles and half-eaten McDonald’s. But nothing much came out. I just heaved, my stomach muscles tightening and my throat opening and a gasping, guttural blech, going through the motions of vomiting over and over again. In between gags and coughs, I sucked air in hard. Her mouth. Her dead, cold mouth. To not be continued. I knew she was drunk. Upset. Obviously you don’t let someone drive drunk and pissed off. Obviously....
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Did you know there are about 1 million words in the English language? Yet, using the latin alphabet (26 letters), we could form a total of 308 million diferent 6 letter words. What does that mean? The English language is highly inefficient!

Hereby I propose a new, efficient language: Tsm.

With only 7 different letters, each and every Tsm word will be up to 7 characters long. That way we are able to accomodate a 10 million word lexicon.

Why use Tsm? Fewer letters and smaller words will mean more efficient communication. Keyboards will be way smaller too.

Thoughts?
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>>8666717
Tsm more like autism amirite
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>>8666717
Will it be more beautiful language?
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>>8666717
>we could form a total of 308 million diferent 6 letter words
including such evocative words as
>hhhhhh
>lxrxgr
>vagina

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Name a more human character than Pip.
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Great Expectations.
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Bane?
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That autistic ginger kid that clumsily helped Doc from Cannery Row than nobody liked.

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I'm thinking about writing a book for 10 years and I still did not do it, is there even a point to that impotent idea of mine? And I get reminded by friends whenever old stories come up. Me having experienced the weirdest events and that according to my circle of friends being enough to write a book or use it as starting point for other ideas or train of thoughts.
I have writer's block since 10 years.
Pic unrelated
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>>8666677
Thinking you need "experiences" to write just shows you don't have what it takes
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Serious recommendation: Write a piece of shit before writing something serious.

What I did was write something shameless and pornographic, something I would never show anyone else. This act of writing garbage is identical to the act of writing something valuable, it's just the subject that's different. So try writing trash, and then when you realize writing is possible and that writer's block can go away, write something that matters.
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>>8666691
Having autobiographical inspirations for a book are bad, what? okay.

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Is Dune the LotR of Science Fiction?

I know it's not the first sci-fi story, and actually came towards the end of the "golden age" of sci-fi, but it seems that the stuff written about in Dune has a hand in almost every story to come out since then.
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>>8666646
>but it seems that the stuff written about in Dune has a hand in almost every story to come out since then.

stop reading trash you nig
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LOTR: Stupid elf elitism, actually has something to say

Dune: Stupid ascetic elitism, actually has nothing to say
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>>8666666
>stealing my get with this trash

Anyone else only read when they eat?
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No, but I bet you're incredibly well-read
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>eating
Kek
I do.
Lovely mix, right?
Love a good read when I have a munch.

Yeah, I eat when I read too.
Only real patricians do this, right?? XD
Utile use of your time, if you ask me
Really cuts into time better spent jacking off to cartoons if you don't
Saged, btw
Everyone hates you
Love to stay and chat, but you're a
Fucking retard.
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>>8666633
So which one is you?

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please tell me i'm not the only one who finds this person's writing horrifyingly bad?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k30RM-9yu1MQghp0aKbo6k1lz7_UoFhj5YK5_QX6xTI/edit
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that's a lot of dialogue, Alex
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>>8666614
someone on discord who thinks they're a "good writer" posted this. Alex is just my friend who's criticizing it with me
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>>8666619
I'm regretting reading this shit right now. I'm too sober for this, but its like a train wreck, you cannot look away from the nightmare that this logical inconsistency is.

I've had better ideas better executed whilst commuting to and fro than. whatever the hell this is.

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Is it narcissistic to think of yourself as the protagonist of your life and that your life is a story?
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>>8666587
you are what dreams are made on anon
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I think it would be pretty hard not to do that
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>>8666587
It's pretty much unavoidable.

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>tfw rejected for publication again
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Who cares, as long as you enjoy writing.

:^)
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>>8666591
I don't enjoy writing so much as I need to write. Same as other great men, how Einstein needed to do physics.
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>>8666891
subtle bait

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>Reddit.

Am I the only one who gets angry when they see shelves like this?

>Hardcovers.
>Covered with shitty knick knacks.
>99.9% YA fiction with disgusting covers.
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looks difficult to get to the books
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>>8666554
Those cases should be burned.
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I don't really take other people's homes personally. I assume my bookcases enrage you as well?

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Brothers Karamazov > Crime and Punishment > Demons > The Idiot

farts > Ulysses > Portrait > Dubliners

Misato > Asuka > Rei
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Hardboiled Wonderland > Kafka = Norweigan Wood > After Dark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1Q84
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Remove this filth.
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>>8666508
>tripfag disagreeing with me

Thank you for proving my tastes

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I can't figure out why this book is so good. Is it good because everyone says its good? Does everyone say its good because its good? Who is everyone? Is good a useful descriptive adjective for literature? Why do I get this sensation that a giant Leopold Bloom is looming over my head staring at me, wearing glasses that hide his eyes?
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>>8666439
You never read this book.
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>>8666512
This.

I'm reading the book for class right now. My primary impression of Bloom is that he's a quiet, sort of shuffling man, a man who would make way for me without a thought as I was charging down the sidewalk, but as I passed he would notice me carefully.
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What edition of this book do you guys recommend most? I'm looking for a version with end/footnotes preferably.


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