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ITT: literary characters that are literally you

i'll start
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Charles Tansley from To the Lighthouse
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Basil Hallward from Dorian Gray.

I do art and I get cucked a lot. One day, I will be cucked to death.
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That one weird ginger autistic kid from Cannery Row that helps Doc clumsily and nobody likes.

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Let's be honest hear, for many of us, starting with the Greeks is a shitty idea.

Yes, I know, starting with the Pre-Socratics is downright retarded, but I'd even go so far as to say starting with the Republic is not a good idea.

Why? Well...
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First off, I'm assuming you're not reading to be "well read" i.e. you don't care about how culturally refined (or anything similar) you appear to yourself, friends, prospective lovers, lovers, family or whoever. If you are reading for this purpose, then it's a no-brainer that you have to start with the Greeks.

So then, why do you want to get into philosophy? The only reason could be the enjoyment you get from engaging in a quest to discover truth (defined primitively, although perhaps best explained as a certain sensation or certainty you feel with regard to a statement, such that the statement seems undeniable or "true")

Why not Plato? Well, because you're not going to find truth in Plato and (although you're more likely to find it here) not in Aristotle either. Say you start with the Republic, you're, most likely, going to get to the point where he tries to correspond a just person to a just city and go "well, that doesn't seem right" then and there, if not later, when he starts laying down the foundations of this city.

It is important to note now, that I am not saying what Plato said is "untrue" in the common meaning of the word, I have defined "truth" here as the sensation of truth itself. Using more common language, I am not commenting on whether what Plato said was true or not, what I am saying is that it most likely won't feel true for you, atleast if that's what you start with, in other words, you're not going to find his "logic" or, more accurately, his manner of reasoning, agreeable.

Using quasi-philosophcial terms, you'll find his reasoning very "spooky".

Where to start with then? Desecartes, you're going to find him a lot more agreeable, unlike the Republic of which the response to most readers is "Well, I obviously didn't agree wtih any of the bullshit he said but it was interesting", when you read the Meditations (just the first two chapters) Desecartes will most likely actually touch truth for you, that is, he will raise questions that honestly make you uncomfortable, that's answer you actually do not know and his reasoning is something you will find a lot more agreeable, until you don't (Be glad that no philosopher will be 100% agreeable, else there ends your quest for truth and there ends the enjoyment you receive from it).

What say /lit/?
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P.S. Post Desecartes, I don't think my recommendations matter, I just believe that exposing one to Plato to start of with does him/her an injustice, by giving them the wrong conception of how analytically rigorous and logically robust modern philosophy is. Think about it, let's say the Republic was never published, let's say someone writes a book exactly like it today, how badly would he be laughed at in academic circles, especially by all the analytic philosophers?

P.P.S. I'm not saying one should never read Plato and Aristotle, their thoughts would...
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It's a meme. You are supposed to get this info through cultural osmosis and if you have not it's too late to start now.

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so can we safely assume that if TWOW doesn't come out before season 7 we'll never get it?

What is the fatman actually doing? DFW wrote infinite jest in 3 years
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>>8663669
be more grateful you ungrateful ingrate
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>>8663669
Who cares
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>>8663674
Why? A commercial fantasy writer delivers a service to his readers. He's delivering that service poorly.

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>Current study
>Prospected Master/Phd/Postdoc

>last read
>currently reading
>next read
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>BA Social science
>MA pol theory or anthropology, not sure yet

>Blood eridian
>No country for old men
>Infinite jest
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>Mbbs
>I don't know. Maybe Phd in pathology.

>C&P
>Lolita
>The vedas
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that is an excellent painting.

the cozy is too much

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>want to read the king james bible for literary merit
>order the standard collins one from amazon, looks pretty nice
>"A handsome leather edition of the bestselling King James Version translation."
>turns out paper is unbelievably thin and shitty and all the edges are stuck together
anyone else get memed into this edition? what the fuck, it's literally the worst quality book i've ever owned
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>>8663489
bibles are usually cheap
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>>8663495
this was more expensive than most books i buy though!
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>>8663489
Look for the Everyman's Library 2 volume old and new testament. The paper is what you'd expect from their hardcovers however the font is a bit smaller.
Look for single column/paragraph bible.
Penguin Classic and Oxford also have King James. Most bibles are printed printed cheaply. Read reviews first before buying.

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What are some good/important female authors to read, /lit/?
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Woolf
Agatha Christie
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>>8663408
Austen
Bronte
Stein
Arendt
Woolf
Eliot

Do you people never tire of frog-triggering threads?
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>>8663408
I don't read female authors on principal because I'm that annoying redpilled guy that jumps in with my poorly thought out opinion at the start of every thread. I hear Jane Austen is pretty good though. Ayn Rand is important, if not good, because she helps me understand my retarded contradictory economic views.
Also something about the white race. You should misread Schopenhauer instead of reading women though, retard.

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What are some good public domain novels to read?
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>>8663364
go on kindle, there are free books there to keep you busy for months (i've read paradise lost for free on it)
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>>8663364
I just finished this.

Tip top
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>>8663966
Yeah but I mean specific ones.

anyone doing it? tips? how bad of a time am I in for? how much prep did you guys do?

let's talk about this hellish ordeal
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I forgot this was a thing. I might try it this year, but ignore the word limit.
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>>8663235
I came fifth last year. Plagiarize someone more talented than you desu
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>>8663272
wait fifth? There's placements?

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What book best recreates the atmosphere of Dark Souls?
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stop with this "rec me lit that seems like my favorite videogame" bullshit god FUCKINg damn
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Read some Bernhard. Maybe Extinction. Maybe correction.
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>>8663038
>when OP breaks a man's will with one question

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Listen as he tells of the book which inspired his life's work.

If you can make it all the way through and have at least one dollar he will make it worth your while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfXHFgmM3Rs
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>Christopher Doyle is going to shoot my film

I'm literally fucking triggered. Just look at his video in paris and you can tell he'll be a shit filmmaker, and somehow through daddys money this is allowed to happen.
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literally never seen a more insufferable person ever before. hard to comprehend just how much he thinks of himself simply because he likes Bataille. fucking hilarious to watch though
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>>8662948
How's it going Cliff?

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who is your favorite philosopher?
who is your favorite poet?
who is your favorite novelist?
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>>8662863
>who is your favorite philosopher?
>who is your favorite poet?
>who is your favorite novelist
The person i see while standing in front of the mirror desu
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>>8662863
Noam Chomsky
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Kierkegaard
Hopkins
Gaddis

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What do you think of Surrealism? Does it give the sensation of a dream-like state, or is it unorganized nonsense? I've only read a few surrealist works so far but each of them were great. There's something kind of provocative about it.
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>>8662316

I wish someone would upload a folder of high quality PDFs of this list. So many of them can it be found on the Internet.
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>>8662316
i enjoy surrealism. theyre aesthetically pleasing but at the same time point to the incongruities and absurdities that we take for granted in everyday life. the relation between kafka's writings and "kafkaesque situations" is the clearest example of this for me.
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>>8662326
>PDFs
Why do you have yourself? Anyway there's a /lit/ folder which must have a good number of them as ebooks >>8647394

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What chair do you sit in when you read?
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masterrace
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>>8662116
>>8662127
<---Master race
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can anyone recommend the best chair to read in comfortably for under $200?

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What one must read before Mein Kampf? I've already read The Manifesto of the Communist Party and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
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>>8661701
"The Idiot" would be a good one.
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Paul de Lagarde
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>>8661701
you're good

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Who are the most powerful beings in the Lovecraftian universe? Are any of them benevolent? Or are they all either malevolent or apathetic?
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>>>/reddit/
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>>8661602
Nice meme, bro.
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this guy.

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WHO are the top thinkers of 2016?
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Random Order:


Dawkins
Haidt
Houellebecq
Piketty
Plomin
Thiel
Duterte
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Zizek is still up there.
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>>8660064
This is a very probematic list

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Better than last year's desu
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>Beckett
>Jerusalem
/lit/, you're all right after all.
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>>8659966
>5 (five!) Pynchon books

Nuke this board please
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>>8659966
Am I blind, or is The Sound and The Fury not on this list?

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Release Edition

What Book are you eagerly awaiting for in 2016/2017?
What book published in 2016 did you read?
What book released in 2016 disappointed you?


Fantasy
>Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
>General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
>Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/

Science Fiction
>Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
>http://imgur.com/a/90laS

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>>8658747
>What Book are you eagerly awaiting for in 2016/2017?
THE
VINDICATION
OF
MAN
Princess is gonna come home, we'll have some more awkward Wright-writes-women chapters and Montrose is going to punch a galaxy in the face. And Witchbro is back, probably going to see him elevated to machine godhood too. I'm excited.
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>>8658764
>Witchbro
Mixed feelings, would have been better if he were consigned to the lost mythic human past remembered only by Montrose and Azarchel. On the other hand we're going to see some crazy tech sand things have actually worked out pretty well so far.

Pretty sure we do know that Rania built an Iron Menelaus when she got lonely.
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QUICK

POST BOOKS THAT FEATURE MANIPULATION OF MATHEMATICAL CONCEPTS

It's not like it's going anywhere
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>scientists believe in existence of giant snake monster
>hear reports of attacks in Brazilian rain forest
>they go to investigate
>Brazilian tribe shows them the giant snake monster
>it's a train hauling lumber to be shipped to USA
>lots of anti-capitalist themes and noble savage malarkey
>tl;dr scientists destroy train & crew with spears and blow darts.
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>>8658426
I'm writing a stream of conscious genre-defying piece. The plot solely consists of a homosexual one night stand. Thematically it explores contemporary politics, Jungian models of consciousness and the repercussions of the sexual revolution.
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>>8658426
How many times are you going to make this? What's your endgame here?

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Whats the best metaphor/simile you can come up with about someone who drinks a lot?

>He drank like he was dying of thirst at every moment.
>He drank more than all the rain in winter.

Give me your best /lit/, I want to be convinced this board is full of talent!
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>>8656102
really solid first one, he drank like he was really thirsty--what more do you need?
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he drank like the antidote was in it.. which, in a way, it was.
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He drank like he had a cup in his hand filled with liquid that he really wanted to drink.

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Do you write any poetry? Share it!
Here's one I finished today:

Clarity -Alexander

There was
White
On the
Rocks.

The gray
Obstacles,
Rough and
Daunting

Diverted
Countless
Clear
Drops

From the
Turbid
Rapids.

The stoneless soul
Took no notice.
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>>8654897
We have like 4 of these topics Brother. Use the catalogue.
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>>8654920
No OC. I checked.
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Gossip

And so we say,
To him today.
Leave us now,
Or you will pay.

Our lives are lost,
At little cost.
So take the bow,
Heave up your cross.

Leave us now.
Or you will pay,
With what we say
To him today.

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It seems like everyone I know is on a constant quest to improve themselves, in a somewhat superficial manner:

>Exercise, yoga, meditation
>Reading self-help, productivity apps, "brain training" products
>Good nutrition, supplements, vitamins
>Optimizing sleep with gadgets such as the "FitBit"

What philosophical way of life does this fall under?

What do you think of this lifestyle?
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>>8653629
normal life.
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>>8653629
Capitalism
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>>8653632

I don't think two or three generations ago people were obsessing over trace element intake and sleep cycles down to the minute.

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No bully!

Post your works. Get critiques. Talk about stuff you're writing, stuff you wanna write and how much you want to kill yourself.
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>>8637677
Fuck off anime degenerate pedo scum
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I'm not writing anything, I'm mucking around and trying to gather inspiration from looking at beautiful trees. It's not helping.
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>>8637682
WHAT DID I SAY?! NO BULLY!

>He tried to read Bottom's Dream before reading the complete Poe!
What are some other novels with mandatory prerequisites?
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No such thing
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>>8666325
>reading any book before reading the Bible
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>>8666325
Any sequel, ever.

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What's the most pornographic book ever written?
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>>8666091
Pornography was a mistake.
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>>8666241
So were you.
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>>8666091
delta of venus is cool

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It will be free until the 30th of October. I wrote three spooky stories in very different styles. I am linking the amazon to find criticism more than advertisement.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3RD6SR
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>>8666060
How long is it?
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>>8666060
The first is about a nightmare that starts bleeding into reality
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>>8666082
The first story is 26 pages, the second is twelve pages and the third is eighteen

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Who are some good contemporary Playwrights?
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None. If they're good enough they become authors or screen writers. Live theater is a dead medium
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>>8666078
Insufferable cunt detected
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>>8666096
So prove me wrong, which playwrights are worth paying attention to today?

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exactly when...when did we go from people like this
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to this
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I don't even know why I haven't dropped out. The professor is just there to summarize the readings and to politely affirm our bullshit amateur opinions.
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Education got shittier once it became less elite

lets be real

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Do you guys prefer your fantasy stories to follow people who remain relatively powerless compared to the events around them, to follow powerful people, or to follow people who become powerful? Someone's always gaining or losing power in these stories; what point of view on that do you prefer?
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I prefer my fantasy stories in the recycling bin.
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It doesn't matter as long as it's portrayed well. Your arrow is aimed at the wrong set of targets.
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End your pathetic existance OP

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You're working in a book shop. A timid young man enters and makes two purchases: Sense and Sensibility and Freud's The Interpretation of Dreams.

What assumptions do you make about the man?
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>>8665809
I would probably assume he wanted to read those books
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I would feel sympathy for a person that (i suppose) isn't cucked by the conventional memefication of freud and wants to make up his own mind about Freuds revolutionary work on the human psyche.

I don't care about sense and sensibility
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>>8665839
This, but I would also assume they would be relegated to a bookshelf after a few attempted reading sessions, never to be read again.


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