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Shit, a qt grill wants to read the prose poetry I bragged about

But it's shit
Wat do /lit/ ?
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>>8663882
Girls have zero taste. Even if it is shit she won't know and it will make her panties wet.
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>>8663882
>prose poetry
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>>8663882
>But it's shit
>Wat do /lit/
Well you seemed to have learned how to rhyme, maybe write some traditional verse and show her that instead.

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is she patrician?
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Yes.
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No.
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Maybe.

So i don't know if this belongs here, but when i'm writing at my pc, my mind dissipates from my body. Is this some sort of thing which happens if you meditate?
I tried replicating it by meditating, but my mind was racing to fast for me to concentrate for it to work. Though i feel refreshed right now, no idea how long i was doing it.
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Oh yeah, book recommendations are welcome.
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>>8663843

I suspect what you're talking about is a "flow" state. This state is achievable through meditation but it does take work. If you meditate correctly (I would recommend concentration or "samatha" meditation) for 30 mins a day for a couple of months you should start noticing some results.
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>>8663862
Is it something other people experience? Mind you i don't often write, nor do i talk to a lot of people who do.
To be honest to myself i'd like to know if it's special, i'd like it to be so.

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Is she as good as they say?
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>>8663783
The books are really good, the covers were a terrible marketing decision. They are definitely a brilliant example of sincerity in literature, as she takes down machismo culture and second wave feminism in favor of a sort of brutal examination of the paths to perdition that we all take, being especially careful to rip herself apart the most. I read all 4 in a little more than a week.
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>>8663791
are you a woman(m)?
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>>8663838
No. And again, this is why the covers are terrible marketing, they do not reflect the book and they suggest housewives buy it, when 3/4 of it is sexual awakening and predation, violent Neapolitan thugs, academic spats, and labor battles.

Give me your trendiest books /lit/. They don't have to be good. I don't care about quality, I just want the most fashionable fiction and poetry that money can buy.

Pic related, obviously
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It's not going to make you trendy.

Worn out second hand editions stacked some what neatly because they don't fit on your bookshelf always get me pussy OP.
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NYRB books.

The Dalkey Archive edition of The Recognitions.
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Based on the fact that you put Fitzcarraldo in your post, I'd recommend Pushkin Press. They are trendy in a similar way, almost like they're emphasising the boringness of the texts

If the world is Will and Representation, how is askesis possible? Obviously it cannot be found at the level of Representation, since individuation/objectification is the root of strife and sorrow, yet the Will is blind striving and Schoppy thinks of askesis as lack of Will, lack of individuation, etc.
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>>8663721
meditate on art, according to him
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>>8663722
Yet he thinks ideas (the things art deals with) are still representation, just at the most basic level (but still plural, still individuated).

Another thing I don't get: why is Schopenhauer labeled an idealist? I know he works "within" the German idealist framework, but he says Will precedes Representation, and while the world-as-representation will die with the subject, the will-in-itself will still exist. This seems pretty materialistic. Even though he implies that the laws of nature, the history...
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>>8663721
women, am i right XD?

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I need to know if universals and objective forms are true and really exist. This is very important to me. Thanks for your help in advance.
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I'll prove they exist to you if you can prove, to me, that you aren't a figment of my imagination.
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>>8663697
Your imagination doesn't have the power to generate systems and substances when it has no knowledge of their compositions and how they work.
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>>8663696
Try New Essentialism by David S Oderberg

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>tfw everything you write is overwrought postmodern ironic masturbatory garbage
>tfw you don't think you'll ever be able to write emotionally honest minimalist literature

do the clouds ever clear
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>>8663416
Reminder that fetishizing muh honesty is the most pseud thing you can do
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>>8663420
I'm not fetishizing it I'm just sick of not being able to differentiate between irony and sincerity because of my neurosis
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>>8663416
keep reading anon

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Why is it so good /lit/?
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>>8663341
>hey guys, do I fit in yet? I'm smart, right? notice me
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>>8663365
>i'm autistic and i'm going to let the whole wide world know about it
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>>8663368
>I'm a huge fucking pleb and I've proved it here.

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is James O'Keefe a pseud?
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>>8663336
every highschooler is a pseud
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>>8663336
>tfw Nietzsche never made such a plebeian statement
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>>8663336

Of the first degree.
I'll just leave this here:
http://exiledonline.com/failure-to-launch-helping-james-o%E2%80%99keefe-leave-his-mommy-and-daddys-house-for-once-in-his-life/

General criticism thread
My attempt at writing like Céline. Rate edgy/10
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>>8663323
Nice, would read more
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Does this make sense? and am I using this semicolon correctly?

"Now I bring them from the dark and calm where they were cultivated back into the light; the light wherein I bla bla bla bla"

(Reposting from a previous thread)
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>>8663323
Not horrible OP. Try using less "I"s though and to let some of the descriptions become less personalized.

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Kant argues that space and time are preconditions of experience, rather than something we know empirically. This dovetails with his transcendental idealism, in which there are no unconditioned experiences, and all our experiences are at least partly constructed in order that they can manifest to our minds in the first place. In other words, sense experience must always depend on an intuitive framework which is able to take sensory inputs and construct them into a coherent image allowing us to act on this sense data.

So question: would it be reasonable to go even further...
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Reason doesn't really exist and Kant was a filthy universalist.
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>One can never forge a representation of the absence of space

This is demonstrably wrong using modern mathematics desu
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>>8663217
then animals don't have experiences? this is absurd

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Hey /lit/

So I'm making a reading list for me and a friend of mine. The (relatively loose) theme is going to be "around the world". Classics, old books, contemporary ones, nonfiction, biographies, plays, all of it are fair game, really. Both of us are going to be bringing nominations to the table and then making a fairly concise list of about fifteen books to begin reading at the start of next year.

I want to include books that would maybe contribute to being a little more well read. Good/important European literature is really not all that tough to find (suggestions definitely still welcome though), but looking for works from Asia, Africa, and South America that fit the bill is tougher.

So yeah, tl;dr I need some /lit/-approved suggestions for literary works from all different corners of the world. I would appreciate the inclusion of some female authors too.

Thanks in advance guys
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From NZ. I don't know if the interplay between politics and the SIGINT network are your thing. If they are, read this. Shit bricks.
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Sounds interesting, here's what I can suggest:

China: Journey to the West - Wu Cheng'en
Mongolia - The Secret History of the Mongols - Anonymous
India: Gitanjali - Rabindranath Tagore
Iraq: Epic of Gilgamesh - Anonymous
Syria: The Book of Contemplation: Islam and the Crusades - Usama ibn Munqidh
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the greeks

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What's a good reading plan for Shakespeare?
Are they any particular editions you recommend?
Is there any prerequisite reading I should do?
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Start with "Don't"
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>>8663166
This
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>>8663188
>>8663166

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c'mon, let's see the deep weirdness of y'all's libraries. misprints, limited runs, occult or just plain fucked up.

as far as i can tell, this was written by a norwegian guy. it was not well translated.
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it's about a crippled autist who lives in a nursing home. he sits in front of his computer and is leader of a virtual cult, like second life. the cult beliefs are basic new-age gnosticism but the conspiracy driving the plot is laughably bad.
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I have a copy of this book. It's accurate research into the big globalist families and their links to powerful organizations, complete with names and charts... Mixed with Christian numerology and off the wall interpretations of Revelations.

I stole it from my ex's mother years ago, and assume it's #rare
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I am not in my house atm so i cant take pictures of the book but this
is about some children with the downs trying to invade texas and retake it for mexico

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ITT: You write your will and final thoughts before departing this world forever.
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your will and final thoughts before departing this world forever.
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>>8663028
And then he died, making a joke that wasn't as funny as his life had been.
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>>8663034
What a weird observation you made before dying... Who or what was he talking about. And also, what the hell am I on about? *death rattle*

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>excusing shitty plot/dialogue by calling it "realistic"

I hope none of you fall for this pleb meme.
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>>8662975
If it's bad, it's bad. If it's good, it's good. If it's good and realistic, even better.
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>>8664079
>If it's good and realistic, even better.
Why ?... If it's art, it's art.
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>>8662975
Well, dialogue in real life is pretty shot. I dare one of you to try to have a conversation with me.

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Hi /lit/! I have a research paper thesis due tomorrow on censorship in the media and i need some debatable topics for it. Any ideas? Pic not related.
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is your objective to look like a sheep or redpill everyone
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So far i have to protect the general public from overly obscene material
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>>8662964
i have to argue why it is necessary

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I have an actual scholarly question so this thread will probably bomb, but maybe some Germanophile can help.

What are the most scholarly, seriously cited collected editions of these German authors in the original language?

Kleist
Holderlin
Heine
Novalis
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I bump your question and raise you a very vaguely related meme.
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>>8662986
Are you ever going to fix her proportions? Have the art critique board do a redline or something.
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>>8663018
I'm not so easily spooked by realism, my property.

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Theory:
Haida was an alternate person of Tsukuru, That night when Tsukuru had the dream that he was having sex with Shiro, Kuro, and eventually Haida... Haida (The alternate or second personality of Tsukuru) while up north (visiting family) was actually up north to murder Shiro then to disappear.
Both of these events happened around the exact same time.
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>>8662938
cool idea but from what i remember it was just weird dreams.

and not a lot to them
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>>8662956
Mate it's Murakami... right after these "weird dreams" Haida disappears forever, there has to be connection between the two. And as even more evidence, Tsukuru saw Haida in the corner of his room as like a dark shadow, when Tsukuru talks with Kuro and gets the story from her, she describes Shrio's death as if a "dark shadow" slipped into her apartment.

No author is going to spend 4 chapters writing about a character for him to have no significance at all in the story...
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this would actually lend a bit of sense to some weird tidbits; the swimming right on haida's heel, the record they shared, tsukuru never traveling to his place, the younger slightly more perfect but all the same almost surreal aspect of himself, excelling at all; hmmm

now you've got me thinking about an otherwise unremarkable book, fuck

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Don't see one of these so I'd thought I'd make it. What are the best tips that you guys have for learning a language? I'm currently learning Korean and feel that my progress is kinda slow, partly because I've been focusing a lot on grammar and not so much on reading or speaking because reading material is hard to find and there aren't many Korean speakers in the area. You guys got any general tips?

In addition, unrelated, but how long do you guys think it would take to learn to read latin if I study it for 2-3 hours a day? What are the best...
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>>8662904
What's your mother tongue to start with ?
I'm learning korean too, I had a test today and I failed >:(
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>>8663331
I'm Korean American but my parents never taught me the language for some reason.
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>>8663339
What's your level in korean ?

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I became an avid reader like three months ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching tv and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.

Here's how I did it.

-Remember the average person reads like zero books a year. If you read 5 pages a day, you are 5 pages above the average person

-Don't force yourself to read. Commit to read 5 pages a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like reading more and after a month or so you should be reading 50-100 pages a day for pleasure

-Read various books at the same time. When I grab a difficult...
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It's really not that bad of advice. But commit, at least for me, isn't the greatest word. Don't commit, do it when you feel. And eventually your ambition will materialize.
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sniff sniiff
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>>8662892
>this pasta again
This is some Barilla-level ubiquity

hey /lit/,

What are some important things to look out for in this novel in terms of symbolism and allusion?
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>>8662846
Look for the flecks of corn in the shit you're going to be reading.
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You'll never get the full picture unless you've read and understood The Divine Comedy, The Bible, and have a general understanding of Roman and Greek mythologies.
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>>8662846
symbolism of the early tarot reading

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https://www.librarything.com/profile/LamontCranston
Hey /lit/ can you recommend some works based on my library? I never know what to read, so end up with science fiction and stuff
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>>8662811
If you like Wolfe enough to save his meme go back further through American sci-fi/fantasy/magical-realism/faggotry-for-nerds-who-can't-handle-reality and try the writers who influenced him.

>Jack Vance
Tales of the Dying Earth
>Charles G. Finney
The Circus of Dr. Lao
>James Cabbel
Jurgen
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>>8663076
If you bothered to look at the link you'd see that I have read Wolfes influences Vance and Borges, as well as also Umberto Eco who wrote the astonishingly similar Name of the Rose at the same time of BotNS
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>>8662811
Vollmann

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>>8662808
Yes.
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>>8662808

What has he written
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>>8662808
Should have gotten the nobel tbqh

Have any of you guys read Ben Shapiro's first venture into fiction ? What does /lit/ think of Ben?
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>>8662723
I think you should kill yourself
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>>8662723
literally who
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>>8662782
This.

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>this is the guy who's going to end up adapting Blood Meridian
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Moustaches are so uncomfortable. Dunno why anyone dies it
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I honestly didn't think his rendition of The Sound and The Fury was too bad. I'd never want him to do a Blood Meridian adaptation, but I don't feel he's as bad as people think
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>>8662730
The few times I've done just a mustache I've gotten a lot of compliments about it. I really don't know why.

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Why the fuck should I believe your literature is objectively better when you can't even define the qualities that make good literature good?
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>>8662703

isnt that one quality that makes it worth exploring though?
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i dont know my man
i just know that brothers karamazov is really much better than harry potter
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>>8662780
Empirical sales data suggests Harry Potter is a priori superior in my objective, rational, reductionist world.

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Rec me quality books on writing.
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>>8662695
How to Write a Sentence: And How to Read One by Stanley Fish is a decent exploration of style.
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>>8662695
Jesus Christ pic is good and i'm not remotely near left
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>>8662713
Ikr. It really inspired me.

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What if I told you something about Dragontales...
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"I became an avid reader in just..."
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are you going to fucking tell me about the dragontales or are you going to keep being a fucking cunt?
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I prefer this Dragon Tales


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