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Would like to read, curious about other opinions. What do you like/dislike about him/his novels and why?
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>>8662560
His writing is unremarkable. His ideas are fantastic, albeit dated and forever frozen in a cold war mentality. Start with a short story compilation to get a feel for him; decide for yourself.
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>>8662560
Did you start a thread to discuss Philip K. Dick without ever reading him yourself?
Please fuck off and read Ubik
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>>8662569

I have it in my hands right now.

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Is it true that all great and good art has already been made?
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>>8662555
No.
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>>8662555
Why would that even make sense in your head
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>>8662555
My diary has not been made desu

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Looking to get back to reading more. Havent read anything of substance in years.

The reason for the post is looking for your humble suggestions of books of average difficulty for example:Lord of the flies.

Tl;dr suggest me books that are average difficulty but still contain depth. Thank you.
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>>8662520
stoner by john williams

just track down that /lit/ top 100 and see which ones are interesting to you.
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>>8662520
>average difficult
>depth
So, like, books with clear prose or books that are "easy and relaxing to read but hard to fully understand so you can spend nights exploring it in your head"?
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>>8662522
Seconding stoner, great book, easy read.

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What is the appeal of The Crying of Lot 49?

A friend recommended it to me; I had to put it down.
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I call bullshit, you can't truly have so many friends that you execute them whenever they disappoint
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Some people find it interesting and fun to read.
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>>8662495

lel

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What exactly would be the theme of this book?

I'm stuck between never giving up and seeing where life takes you.
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Picking a random direction and running is more likely to lead you somewhere than doing nothing.
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>>8662423
Just bee your self :)
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>>8662423
life is like a box of chocolates.

except a lot of the chocolates are turds.

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What the FUCK do I do once I graduate /lit/? I've studied English and Political science at one of the best schools in the US, but I have absolutely no idea what to do with myself once I graduate this coming April. Do I go to law school, or do I find some consulting gig? Or marketing, or a government position? What on earth do I do?

I am interested to hear what other e/lit/ists do for work, and what they were thinking about doing upon leaving university.
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You are not your job.
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>>8662400
Profundity won't buy me a Ferrari
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>>8662396
As someone who went to law school, don't go. Just find a job doing something for more than min. wage. It doesn't matter what your undergrad degree was in, just apply to anything and everything. Emphasize work experience, time management experience, work ethic, just put yourself out there.

You want out of academia, especially in the current SJW thought police climate. Seriously, get a job, work, read, develop your freedom. Don't get suckered into more and more class, I wish I hadn't.

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Do you agree with this review on Geschlecht und Charakter by Otto Weininger?
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Well yeah that probably would be a slightly traumatic experience for both people involved
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The review is a baseless adhom. I disagree on principal.
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tries too hard to be funny. probably pasta

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Is there any kind of underground movement for authors who accept plagiarism - at least in part -as a valid method of composition? Because there totally should be.
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My diary desu
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>>8662479
Can confirm, my diary has a chapter plagiarized from his desu.
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Translators.

What book has the most boypussy which is actually a serious book and not just a porno with no plot? I actually think that it turns me more on when in a book there's really subtle sexual encounters, because the build up actually turns me on more than just 'AND THEN THEY FUCKED'. I also really love a good story, and if it's not even erotic, I just love reading about boypussy, I think gay stuff is really touching and adorable. So please, just recommend me a story with the most boypussy.
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if there were one i would have found it by now anon
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some bookshops have entire sections for LGBT fiction
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>>8662319
b-but anon, there could be.

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I've never read anything about him and his fiction doesn't interest me too much, but listening to his interviews makes me want to read his essays. Which book should I go with ?
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>>8662239
>about him
I meant by him, not about him. I'm not sure why I used the wrong word there.
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Not that book. Either Supposedly Fun Thing or Consider the Lobster. Both are great.
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>>8662245
But which of the two is better ?

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I rarely post here.

Firstly, I remember reading some anon post about how a relative of Joyce laughed at scholars who would come up with interpretations of his work.

Secondly, what is the point of getting into literature if you just extract meaning that the author didn't intentionally put there? It seems very arbitrary, could anyone disillusion me?
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>>8662223
Most of the critical interpretations of Joyce's works are based on things that Joyce himself said about them.
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To your second question.
"Meaning" is always the creation of the reader. It is impossible to completely reconstruct the authors intentions from the book alone, and furthermore why would you want to? Literature is not a discipline in search of single answers, books are the soil for our ideas. From the loam of a book you can extract and evince an infinite number of interpretations, the only thing that matters is that your analysis is compelling and thoroughly substantiated. It is all just a big game. The same goes for criticism, people like Harold Bloom know that...
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>>8662223
Sometimes the author doesn't know why he writes what he writes. That's the lit-crit line, at least. It's like interpreting a dream, sometimes somebody other than the dreamer is the better interpreter. Sure, very often artists have programs and say things deliberately, but they also say things not deliberately, without knowing they're saying them. That's what it means to interpret the work and not the author's intentions.

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i'm at a bookstore. quick. name a book that changed your life that i should buy
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>>8662155

The Waste Land
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Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
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The Phenomenology of Spirit.

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>be me
>living with my mother for 14 years
>14 years of NEET
>never left the house
>she died this year
>everything is overwhelming and noisy
>extended family forced me into labor
>working pleb job for pleb wage
>everyone behaves as if this shit is normal
>people...
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you should read dfw's autobiography. it's about a little boy named david who was born without discernible talent. he eventually made a thousand page long book which was then read by pseuds on the internet
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>>8662141
Yea. It's called toughen the fuck up you soft cock, written by finding it hard to enjoy your job doesn't make you superior.

Also >>>/9k/
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>>8663611
t. wage cuck

Remember wagey, another day another dollar

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>>>/v/355950105

Is this your doing, /lit/?
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/v/ get the fuck out immediately
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>>8662115
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>>8662120
/v/ get the fuck out immediately

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Are there any books on the monastic life that /lit/ would recommend?

Next week I am beginning an introductory period at a Benedictine monastery in Colorado and may live there indefinitely afterwards. I'm not religious, but I know the bible well and am just looking to escape society for a while.

I'm currently reading Huysmans.
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>>8661958
better than shooting up a school at least
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>>8661958
Did Houellebecq inspire you?
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Interested in this as well.

So in Lolita, Humbert says she has a fever and that 'her brown rose tasted of blood', does that mean he tongued her asshole and tasted blood or am I missing something?
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>>8661940
He probably didn't rim her while ill. But he is alluding to her having blood in her stool

I haven't read it. Post the paragraph
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the chocolate starfish and the hotdog flavored water
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>>8661961
Why do people who know they can't know always do this shit? You know not having read the book means your guess contains less useful information than the posed question, it certainly saves your time of typing and ours of reading your completely random, stupid guesses.

Louis Ironson: Well, oh boy. A gay Republican.
Joe Pitt: Excuse me?
Louis Ironson: Nothing.
Joe Pitt: Oh, I'm not... no, forget it.
Louis Ironson: Not... Republican? Not Republican?
Joe Pitt: What?
Louis Ironson: What.
Joe Pitt: Not gay. I'm not gay.
Louis Ironson: Oh. Sorry. It's just that sometimes you can tell by the way a person sounds. I mean, you sound...
Joe Pitt: No, I don't. Like what?
Louis Ironson: Like a Republican.
Joe Pitt: Do I sound like a...?
Louis Ironson: What? Like a Republican? Or do I?
Joe Pitt:...
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>>8661895
Why isn't anybody responding to my thread? It had everything. Progressive vs. conservative shitflinging and cheap barbs. Mention of a popular literary figure everybody on /lit/ is familiar with. Sitcom-y and easy-to-read dialogue. The proper greentext format, and an unattractive picture of an irritating and famous playwright.

I did everything PERFECTLY--so where the fuck are my (You)s?
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>listening to a fat old Jew who can't write himself
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>>8662476
fuck off, you're not fooling anyone with this low-tier shit

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What are the greatest poems ever made? Post some excerpts
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'Screvo meu livro à beira mágoa.
Meu coração não tem que ter.
Tenho meus olhos quentes de água.
Só tu, Senhor, me dás viver.
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À dolorosa luz das grandes lâmpadas eléctricas da fábrica
Tenho febre e escrevo.
Escrevo rangendo os dentes, fera para a beleza disto,
Para a beleza disto totalmente desconhecida dos antigos.

Ó rodas, ó engrenagens, r-r-r-r-r-r-r eterno!
Forte espasmo retido dos maquinismos em fúria!
Em fúria fora e dentro de mim,
Por todos os meus nervos dissecados fora,
Por todas as papilas fora de tudo com que eu sinto! ...
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This living hand, now warm and capable
Of earnest grasping, would, if it were cold
And in the icy silence of the tomb,
So haunt thy days and chill thy dreaming nights
That thou would wish thine own heart dry of blood
So in my veins red life might stream again,
And thou be conscience-calm’d–see here it is–
I hold it towards you.

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>>8661875
>>>/thewiki/
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>>8661885
It's not like this board has interesting discussion going on.
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>>8661875
vulgate

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now that i'm finally done with the bible, i have some XP to spend - what attributes should i spend them on? what doors are now open to me? dante? milton? hitchens?

keep in mind that i've now read everything up to and including the bible, in terms of stuff that has ever been recorded.
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>>8661874
Spend it on a charisma boost.
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Book of Mormon
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>>8662270
ooo, i read in new york magazine (or was it the new yorker!?) this was supposed to be hilarious!

never read freud but i have become very interested in his theories relating the survival mechanisms of the unconscious to morality and society.

i think pic related is a good step for me better understanding his work and the works of some contemporary critics. ive never actually worked with any of his writings regarding psychoanalysis nor have i read anything it all.

would this be a problem? whats required as prerequisite?
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That's as good a place as any to start.
The introductory lectures are fine too.

in b4 positivists shit up this thread
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>>8661865

thanks, anon.
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I thought Peter Gay's Freud Reader was a really nice introduction

Hated all the other readers I looked at

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how come i can't seem to get much done after 2pm? is it all in my head? why is early morning so much better and productive?
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Why are you asking us, how can we tell. You have to analyse the problem yourself. Lack of inspiration, motivation, tiredness? Do you eat too much at lunch, dink too much coffee early on?
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Working beyond the morning is a meme for normies. You have nothing to worry about
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Morning's definitely easier for creative flow, there's science behind it. Don't be too hard on yourself.

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I just began College and i am studying the Romanian and English Languages and Literature. I am really affraid that after all this thing will be over i will end up knowing nothing...and that through all those years all the questions i asked will just help me discover a conture of what i should really know. Anybody feeling the same? I am as scared as i can get. Until this day i've been an eminent student and i sort of became aquinted with linguistic concepts. The dean also asked me to prepare a set of questions related to linguistics and filological sciences in order to discuss...
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>>8661818
Is this a troll thread or are you this fucking dumb?
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>>8661914
Not op, but what a great response, you surely helped poor OP ease his angst.
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What do you mean, OP?

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Sup /lit/.

Just got the Oxford Annotated Bible.

What order should I read the books in?
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>>8661721
burn it, you'll learn more.
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Read the introductory material, it will give you suggestions.
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As a wise anon recently said:

The Bible is *the* most normie book in existence. There isn't a special, hidden order to reading it.

Start from Genesis; keep reading until you finish the Old Testament. If you want to read the Apocrypha, you can (and should). Otherwise, read all of the New Testament, in order. It's not rocket science.

To be, or not?
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>we are such stuff as dreams are made on

what did he mean by this
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>>8661705
He meant that all the world's a stage
and each must play his part
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>>8661705
The universe is your will.

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Can /lit/ write me my senior quote?

I'm having difficulty of coming up with an original and funny idea due to my crippling autism
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"You can fool none of the people some of the time, but you can't fool some of the people all of the time."
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>>8661676
thats pretty dank senpai
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>>8661672
"I'm having difficulty of coming up with an original and funny idea due to my crippling autism"

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corncob tortilla
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>>8661639
Is there boypussy in it?
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It says it on the cover, fuckwit.

A novel.

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Can anyone that owns this edition (Dalkey Archive Press) of The Recognitions please take a picture of the first or second page of text? The Atlantic Books edition my library carries has shit-tier printing, and if this editions any better I'm just buying it online (nowhere near me carries it). Any notes on the quality of the pages/cover page would be appreciated.
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It's a well constructed book.
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this is nice marketing

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Are there any charts on how to get into Schopenhauer and Nietzche?
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Towards the bottom of this:

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub
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>>8661612
You don't need a chart. Schopenhauer tells you exactly what you need to read to understand him in the introduction to the world as will and representation.

You don't even really need Schopenhauer for Nietzsche, though it enhances the experience, for Nietzsche just have a good understanding of Plato/Socrates and the presocratics, Heraclitus in particular. Some general knowledge of the people he brings up all of the time (Epicurus and Kant) is also useful but not strictly necessary.

Oh also you...
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I am writing a story about a woman who falls in love with and has a forbidden relationship with a dragon. I already have agents coming to me about representing me. My point is if you want to be published you have to have a REALLY good concept that makes people want to read it within one single sentence. That is what people like to read these days.
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>>8661563
Does the dragon represent the black people contaminating our women?
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>>8661563
nice bait, but on the off chance that is somehow remotely true I may throw up a little.
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Let me tell you about the Dragontails.

Saged.


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