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why does his work translate so well and resonate for westerners?
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I think from the get-go even in Japanese his work has been called American minimalism rendered in Japanese form. consider that a few of his fave writers include Raymond carver and fitzgerald.

I know rubin (one of his regular translators) has studied extensively in Japanese literature and probably does a good job with nuances considering the language barrier. also consider that murakami has done quite a few translations of American literature into Japanese.

there are probably lots of reasons.

thematically,...
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>>8657081
I've hated his work and I'm a westerner.
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Murakami, this guy just can't write a novel without his protagonist's walk at some point turning into a brisker stride or something like a full-on run. It's like, enough already.

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Is true love the only feeling that we cant truly rationalize? Did any philosopher talked about this? Hume maybe?
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>>8657059
I'm redpilled.

'True love' is a jewish Hollywood fiction made to emasculate the white man and make him easy to control. It's a way to get women power and subsequently have liberal beliefs (women feelings) pervade all aspects of society so that the white race can be eradicated, i.e. by lowering birth rates and importing immigrants.

In reality women cannot truly love, as they are too shallow to be truly ethical or loyal. true love exists only between white male nationalists fighting...
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>>8657078
Kill yourself faggot
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>>8657198
>t. numale woman worshipper

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How do I start with the Gnostics?
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>>8657009
Bump for interest. The only authors I know are Crowley and Jung.

>girl I'm interested in comes from a super Gnostic family
>her and her mother are both named Sophia
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>>8657366
Wtf I want a gnostic gf now

Read PKD op
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>>8657369
hehe

OP start with the Gospel of Thomas, then do the Gospel of Philip

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>They werent watching the Television box, Their Eyes Were Watching God!

Southern Gothic is for hacks
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>>8656990
That's a brilliant book though
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>>8656990
>Southern Gothic is for hacks


shut it shit heel
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bunch uh neet whitefolk in this heah thread

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Where2startwithphilosophy?

I hear "start with le greeks" is there any specific place to start? kthx
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>>8656971
Hitler
Evola
Schopenhauer
Elliot rodger
Unabomber
Breivik
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Homer
Plato
Epictetus
Ulysses
Archimedes

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Thanks for this
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reading this right now, enjoying it
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>>8656961
>What does /lit/ think?

i'm probably an alcoholic
why are my ears so itchy?
i'd better post my sister's birthday present tomorrow. maybe thursday
i want a new laptop but i'll probably wait until the new year
i want a wank

that's what i think

brb going to have a wank

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What is the general consensus on this man here?
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Whenever I feel down and need a happy pickmeup I just imagine myself as sysiphus. He was happy after all. When i really vividly getting into the idea of the pain of eternally pushing that rock, a huge grin just can not be taken off my face.

Not a hack/10
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>>8656896
He is the best looking figure in 20th century philosophy, his books are so-so and his philosophy is pleb tier.

He would be mostly forgotten by now if he was as ugly as Sartre.
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Dislike him. Second-rate, ephemeral, puffed-up. A nonentity, means absolutely nothing to me. Awful.

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Is there really any upsides to the way the media censors books? I struggle to find any justification as to why governments do this.
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Critical thinking is a threat to power. Books can contain ideas which encourage critical thinking. In modern times, a more effective technique has been to condition the people so that they can have almost every resource that they need at their disposal and not know how to use them. This is done via a seemingly innocuous but covert form of psychological warfare (television, advertising, news organizations).

Any of the upsides to censorship prior to these times can probably be found in Plato's Republic.
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Bit harder to censor people who have access to the internet, unless you go with the Great Firewall route. Didn't Erdogan in Turkey try to block access to Twitter? There is only an upside if you are the one controlling the information.
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>>8656948
Kadyrov in Chechnya keeps trying to shut down the Internet, but he's so obsessed with Instagram, it doesn't last very long.

The government doesn't have the right to jurisdiction in books or on the Internet, news media is a different story because they've proven themselves to be biased anyway.

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What's the best book cover you've seen? Oh wait, it's this one
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Terry Pratchett has a lot of nice looking hardcover... covers.
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>>8656861
This makes me angry because there are three brothers and only two on this cover

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Where were you when you realized Dylan Thomas is the best poet of all time?

It is a winter's tale
That the snow blind twilight ferries over the lakes
And floating fields from the farm in the cup of the vales,
Gliding windless through the hand folded flakes,
The pale breath of cattle at the stealthy sail,

And the stars falling cold,
And the smell of hay in the snow, and the far owl
Warning among the folds, and the frozen hold
Flocked with the sheep white smoke of the farm house cowl
In the river wended vales where the tale was told.
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Nice, OP.

I hadn't read this poem. I like it a lot.
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>>8656857
These are only the first two stanzas. The full poem goes on much longer. Look it up, "A Winter's Tale".
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>>8656850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5u9Zz5l15E

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>Spineless protagonist spends the summer with rich retards
Is this really the best American literature can produce?
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>>8656791
Taking the bait, but the novel is not about liking the characters. It's about giving a portrait of the American Dream: its lure and decadence as well as its tragedy and shortcomings.
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>>8656794
Is the American dream about working in organized crime in order to fulfill the obsession of stealing another man's wife? Cause if not I don't think it's 100% applicable.
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Main theme: cuck/ cuck theory
Secondary themes: desire , wealth , obtainment.
Laced with: romance , betrayal , fetish and money

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Whats the best translation of In Search Of Lost Time by Proust?
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>>8656740
The one that best reproduces the work in another language
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>>8656748
english

please take it easy on me i feel vulnerable
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>>8656740
We've been over this. Moncrieff's. Modern Library.
Want to read it with me?

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Who do people pretend Kant blew him out?
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>>8656710
Because of cultural marxism we have to return to science and logic instead of feels.

Women are simply inferior
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They love philosophy slash fiction.
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>>8656717
you're like a broken record

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So how does one edit the first draft of a manuscript?
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and rewrite it from memory
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Carefully
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>>8656641
Can you post an excerpt here?

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Post your thoughts on a book you just read or are currently reading
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it's shit
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Not quite what I expected.
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>>8656601

Reading Musonius: Lectures and Sayings. It's alright, but he's definitely a lot more simplistic and Greek than Epictetus or Aurelius.

>The subexpression before the colon refers to: The subexpression after the colon is self contained.

Should the subexpression after the colon be capitalized or not?
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Not in my diary desu
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>>8656597
Not unless you're starting a new line, but it's incorrect in any case. A colon should only be placed after a complete clause, not a sentence fragment.
>The subexpression before the colon refers to the following: the subexpression after the colon is self-contained.
Incidentally, this isn't programming: we call them "clauses," not "subexpressions."
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>>8656609
If i understand you correctly:
I am a retard

If i understand you correctly: i am a retard.

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/lit/, why is evil sexy?
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>>8656554
Sexy as in, what opens up females to reproducing?

Perhaps an act of evil then correlates to an act of power (as any act requires, at least some amount of power)

And the openness to reproduction with a mate, may have some relation to power

So, thusly, perchance your conclusion mayhap conclusive
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/lit/ - Literature
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because sex is evil

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Hello,

I've been interested in philosophy for quite a long amount of time, but I've set it aside until now as I believed I wasn't exactly mentally developed enough. I still think that I've not advanced exactly far, though further than where I was when it first crossed my mind as a something I'd like to devote a large amount of my time to.

The question that I would like to ask is, are there any papers or books that deal with understanding philosophy, as in, the most objective way as to how to understand and or digest what you come across...
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>>8656524
...start ...with ...le ...greeks
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>>8656524
Philosophy undergrad here.

If you're looking for a book then what you're looking for is Russel's introductory book "The Problems of Philosophy".

You will also have to find resources on logic, critical thinking and principle of charity in order to think in philosophical manner. My university is not in English so I can't suggest you too much here but "Thinking from A to Z" is a good English book to start thinking critically.
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start with "sofie's world" :3

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What are some books about conspiracies and shit with twists and stuff. Should I read the dan brown books meme?
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>>8656476
thomas pynchon
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>>8656476
Umberto Eco is sometimes called Italian Dan Brown.

What are some redpilled books about the JFK assassination?
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>>8656307
>redpilled
Kill yourself
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Geee ked, idk, you probably not redi to rid tha real buukz abuot how thay kaput the goo' old KFC. I keep it to me self.
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>>8656307
James Ellroy, American Tabloid.

Not sure what exactly you mean by "redpilled" in this context, but it has the CIA, the FBI, and the Mafia arrange it, so there should be something in it for you.

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How does it end?

Oh and spoiler alert
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>>8656303
wow that bible is in pristine condition. mine looks like it went through the marne
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Deus ex machina
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>>8656303
joshua aka jesus dies at the end, but there's a twist you won't see comming

So growing up i was a big reader then in my late teens depression fuck me up and i lost all motivation to read or write.

So am trying to get back to reading i want to avoid super difficult books (english is my second lenguage) or depressing books.

Last books i read were The Call and Fangirl which were awesome and got me into wanting to read more i bought Cinder by marissa meyer recently but i like having a books to start after i finish one I'm addicted to piles...

Any recomendation will be great, thanks :)
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>>8656233
Be more creative next time
Saged
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>>8656249
Is it wrong to be generic from time to time? Just wanted some books to read geez
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>>8656233

Kraut here, so english is also my second language but after years of not being able to focus, it was easier for me to start again in english, simply because I wasn't as easily distracted and I had to actually focus instead of just reading it without that anything would stick.

Just choose something light from your personal interests.

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Books that make you hate a person when they say it's one of their favorites.

Pic related
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Hush, hush. The main characther is the ultimate mary sue and the love interest makes me feel icky, plus the writing is awful.
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>>8656229
Gravity's Rainbow
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>>8656229
Infinite Jest

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Is serial experiments lain the greatest commentary on the Internet yet created? Has any literature come out to surpass it, or will a chinese cartoon remain forever superior? This isn't an ironic question: I actually see barely any literature that so deeply explores this modern phenomena
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the scene in episode 13 when you see every character without lain in their lives and the song that plays was very good
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>>8656217
>modern phenomena
>modern
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Commentary or critique?
I think Walter Benjamin tried to establish a difference between both of them. Maybe critique is the proper term.

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I have only recently have begun writing, and found it rather difficult to write the begging of the story. The middle and end are simple enough, but the start of everything is the most important as I see it, and its feels just horribly awkward when I begin the first paragraph.
I need advice. How do I engage the reader properly as well as smoothly?
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depends on the way you want to write stylistically.
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you spelled beginning wrong.
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Well i think the best you can do is get feedback from a friend who isnt afraid to be honest.

And to be willing to rewrite a lot i have the same thing and in my current project i have rewritten the first 3 chapters about 8-9 times i gave up and am rewriting the whole novel again...

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>I bet you can't beat pic related.
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>>8656105
>tfw using a smaller book as a bookmark for a bigger book
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>>8656117
why couldn't the fascists have been more tasteful?
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>>8656105
i use a one of those advertising playing cards you get in a new deck

I wish I had something longer and better looking

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After two unpublishable manuscripts, I've come up with an idea that an editor has told me would get published and I'm convinced he's right. No I'm not telling you what it is, because fuck you.

Now, I know that agents and editors typically only want complete manuscripts for fiction, but is there any way around that? I don't think I'll have the time or money to write this thing without some sort of advance.
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be published or show an agent/publisher an excerpt that a publishere loves enough to give you money to finish it. it's exceedingly rare so don't bank on it. it will be tiny in any case.
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>>8656065
I know that it's extremely rare, especially for unpublished authors. I don't need a huge one though like $5,000-$10,000 would work for me because I have no overhead costs but I need to show the people I'm living with that writing is making me money for them not to make my life a living hell for being a NEET.
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>>8656071
write an excerpt and pray. you're probably not getting one.

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Opinions?
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>>8655912
He's repeating himself a lot, but it's worth it for his attentive unpacking of The Bridge alone. Wish he'd write a full book on Crane.
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Are there any other books which deal with the American sublime? I've been going through the Transcendentalists as well as the early American masters while reading sections for Matthiessen and Reynolds.
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Just started getting into Crane, I spent the weekend reading and rereading The Bridge while gleaning notes from online. Bloom's book has been sitting on a shelf in my local bookstore for years now. Thanks for the heads up.
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Got it and didn't really learn anything new or have my mind changed. One of Harry's worst imho

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why does she spell her name that way? all lower case?
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>>8655898

phallogocentrism
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>>8655900
>looks up what phallogocentrism is
>finds out it was constructed by Derrida

trash, i mean did these french philosophers just make up shit to sound smart
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Because retarded.

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Mine is Carson Books from Vancouver, BC, on Main St. Very knowledgeable owner who will most likely have the specific book you're looking for. My favourite thing about him is that he especially stocks a lot of quality science fiction, specifically Philip K. Dick and Harlan Ellison first editions. He sells a lot of quality classic rock LPs, too.
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>>8655870
Washington DC has a few decent ones.

Second Story Books has lots of cool old stuff, along with solid nonfiction selections and pretty frequently renewed fiction.

Capitol Hill Books is the quintessential crammed bookstore, with everything double shelved and precariously stacked. Decent prices, wide variety, huge fiction section.

Idle Time Books is okay but doesn't have too wide a selection. Only found a few things I liked there.

Carpe Librum was a big disappointment. Like a barnes and...
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It's just called Adams Ave. Book Store. It's not in my neighborhood but they have cute cats, in addition to a decent variety of books. They're usually in excellent condition. The cats and the books.
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>>8655942
Down in San Diego? I love that place. Really good selection for decent prices.

You ever been to DG Wills up in La Jolla?


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