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>anglos use latin words to sound more polite and/or cultured
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(it's funnier because cara means face haha)
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>anglos
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>pro bono
Just say 'for free' you faggots
>ad nauseam/hominem/infinitum etc
Literally kys

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Is Cormac McCarthy really fucking hard to read for someone that only learned English as his second language? I've read books from Oscar Wilde, Salinger or Joseph Conrad in the original language and rarely needed to look up a word and it felt just like reading a translation. I'm trying Blood Meridian but it is absolutely killing me, can barely make out one sentence without having to look up, all the words are so archaic. Should I just /give up/ and buy the translation?
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>>8653425
I find his overuse of the word and to be annoying as fuck. It's like he despises periods.
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What is your native language?

Are you using an e-reader? I am reading it now and the obsolete words don't pester me too much. I actually enjoy the long periods and lack of quotation marks and commas, because it does affect the flow of the narrative in an interesting way.

Keep going, it is definitely worth your time.
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>>8653512
Forgot to add that I'm also not a native speaker.

how do I write like Melville? I want my writing to be hard to follow to make people think I'm smart
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>>8653369
>I'm too stupid to understand Moby-Dick so I'll take my frustrations out on /lit/ by way of asking passive-aggressive questions
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>>8653379
true, I can't make it past the cetology chapter, his writing is horrible and grotesque
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>>8653399
You're horrible and grotesque

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I'm kinda new to books I guess.. I have read a lot of H.P. Lovecraft and 1 WW2 book.

Can you guys recommend me some good stuff? I'm planning on reading some Dostoyevsky and I also like science fiction stuff
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Read the sticky.
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>>8652920
Didn't pay enough attention to it, my bad
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>>8652888
what are your interests.

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Please recommend works that relate to the worldview described in this picture.
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>>8652876

That's very bleak, isn't it? I can't exactly think of whole works which forward an ideal of total, irredeemable, carnivorous violence, but some writers have a tonal similarity:

Comte de Lautreamont, Baudelaire, Zola, Poe, some Blake, etc.
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You read Malthus if you want pre-Darwinian naturalism
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>>8652876
40k

How many of you do the majority of your reading on an ebook?
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>>8652695
>on an ebook

I do mostly use an e-reader desu. I ditched all my physical books except one.
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>>8652695
I predominantly use my kindle for reading, pornography, and vidya
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>>8652705
What the fucks an ebook then?

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>your age

>your job

>your /lit/ related ambition
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>>8652528
27
Teacher
I just want to read books
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student
want happiness money.... what >>8652531 said
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>27
>Researcher
>Finish Don Quixote, my Struggle and the Magical Labyrinth, plus finish my first novel, all withon the next year

If Fairy tales have a moral to their story what is the point of little red riding hood?

Questions:
Why isnt she just called little red hood? She isnt riding anything so whats that about?

Nice girl brings food to grandmother who is murdered by a wolf then she gets eaten, what kind of moral is that to learn? To not be nice?
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>>8652231
That men are largely murderous pedophiles. But there are also some good ones, i.e. hunter
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>>8652249
>The moral is not to be a trusting dipshit
I kind of thought that but it doesnt make sense. She was being nice bringing food to her grandmother and gets eaten by a wolf? She even calls out the wolf for being a wolf...

>Its a "riding hood"
Your just talking out of your ass like you have all the answers at this point. Or to play devils advocate if you have proof of this post it. The lone ranger, and other cowboys didnt wear hoods it would serve no purpose.
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I have always wondered if it is the same wolf who blew down the house of the 3 little pigs,? Is this wolf some kind of message perhaps about the occult or demon worship given how not only can it blow a house down but shape shift into other people like her grandmother, perhaps its a warning about lizard people?

I feel like my life is falling apart. Everything is an illusion, my mind and body react to give impressions. I have no real drive. I have no desire to get to where others think I'm going. I like the emotions of social interactions, romantic connections, the feeling of working out, feeling alive, but these emotions are momentary, they do not motivate me enough. It might just be my structure, my predetermined genetic physiology, which somehow finds a way to not do anything. I want to stay home and die, be passive, read, but action, the thing that can bring happiness and fulfillment,...
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>>8652040
Just start with the greeks for crying out loud. And youre crying about the parts of life that aren't even sad.
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>>8652040
I know those feelings.

There's always a way. Even if you'd prefer there not to be one. You'll find it, anon.

Reading helped me. People who were, if not as miserable, at least able to articulate things in a way that I thought wasn't full of shit in a way that 99% of life sometimes is.
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>>8652040
I can relate to these feelings quite well. You put it nicely when you describe yourself as an ember catching an occasional draft...

I've been through the motions myself. I thought certain things would improve my self esteem. Nothing has made me happy. I get little enjoyment from things... And I'm always left in that void you speak of, looking for the next thing that promises to improve my life. it's hard to do anything when your not being neurologically rewarded to do so. That's depression....
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How old were you when you realized that this shit is just softcore porn for insecure twelve year old girls?
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You just blew /lit/ open. Twilight is #1 on our charts. We're going to have to rethink some things. Are there any other books out there?
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>>8651918
However old I was when the book's existence was first brought to my attention. And to save time, that's the answer everyone here will give you, so stop making threads about the obvious.
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>>8651918
>insecure twelve year old girls
Is there any other kind? Also, why shouldn't 12-year-old grils have something to read

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"There is no sexual relationship" - What did he mean by this?

Also, Lacan general.
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>>8651775
Man's love is entirely narcissistic, i.e. he constitutes his idealized self-image in the gaze of an admiring woman. What he 'loves' in a woman is desirousness itself, not the actual concrete empirical female.

A woman loves a man insofar as he is a simulacrum of a full phallic presence that gives access to Orher-joiussance. She doesn't love the man for what he is either, i.e. weak, self-doubting etc.
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>>8651797
That's conflating lust with love though, which to be fair the majority of people do.
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>>8651802
It's masturbation with a partner

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>/lit/ is the smartest board on 4chan
Are philosophyfaggots killing this place?
5 years ago we talked about books and shit
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>>8650173
Honestly mate, until they make a philosophy board it's fucking /lit/ content.

Nobody likes recbegs though.
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>>8650173
>/lit/ is the smartest board on 4chan

what does this have to do with your point?
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>>8650195
They did. /His/ was made to include philosophy but they hated it because it was too fast and no one cared about their threads. So they came back here and posted so many threads that people gave up trying to stop them and it became normal again.

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Where do I get started with DeLillo?
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Conventional wisdom says White Noise, and then proceed through his peak from there (Libra, Mao ll, Underworld)

WN is much more domestic than his other novels, so plebs sometimes get the wrong impression of his work based on that book. Mao ll is probably his best overall.
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>>8649868
White Noise is a meme, really glad I didn't start with it.

Cosmopolis is top-tier.
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Cosmopolis is generally known as a weak book, the beginning of his decline, but if you liked it, more power to you.

I'd say start with Libra.

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Hey, /lit/. Who's your favourite poet?
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My nigger Tom
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>>8647729
Tom DeLonge

Rorschach edition.

What book have you re-read the most?
What book would you most want turned into a high-budget Netflix series?
How's your book coming along?

Fantasy
>Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
>General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
>Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/

Science Fiction
>Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
>http://imgur.com/a/90laS

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>>8646974
I only just learnt today Watts was banned from the US for most of his life or some shit. Madness.
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>>8646974
>Rorschach edition
And all the anons and tripfags will look up and shout "post something good!", and I'll look down and whisper "No."
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>>8646974
>What book have you re-read the most?
Lord of the Rings

>What book would you most want turned into a high-budget Netflix series?
Do comic books count? Legion of Super-Heroes then (it's probably going to happen anyway). If not, then Captain Future, Flash Gordon or Conan.

ITT: the book that sparked your sexual awakening.
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>>8645279
Lolita hahahaha I'm a proud pedo unlike reddit I'm totally 4chan morals!

Pepe the frog approves!!!
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>>8645286
ebin, simply ebin my dear friend!
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>>8645286
Now THIS deserves an upvote

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IT'S HAPPENING
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Two memes collide. Two worlds. Will it still be the samw from now on? XDD
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>>8645041
Will it create a new "meta" meme? XD
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>>8645038
>[Infinite Jest] is the white male's capacity for speaking over minorities and women encapsulated in one droning, yawning work the serves to function as a sort of mansplain of the human condition. Though in one section, Wallace attempts to filter masculine emotion (or lack there of) through the mask of a "feminine entity" (Kate Gompert) at a desperate, grabbing, clawing and gnashing attempt at inclusion.
Do you agree?

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I'm done being lazy. There are some problems, here is the conclusive poll.

What Books will Remain on the List - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdDqGSLd0n1ku0EyM9_z85gEmvNhtd2patwkP6iCLih0x1Zyw/viewform

Results so Far - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_6-b92dCuQKzH4Va2mKI3fy22Du0l3PxkybyPLqEX88/edit#gid=837279928

I may need some help setting up the original chart. Does anyone have any advice on how to set something like this up in GIMP?
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One last note. You can vote as many times as you would like on the poll, due to the large number of possibilities.
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Solid work OP, looks like the best of the last three years' lists.
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>>8644941
And I mean that in the sense that you can choose as many entries as you would like.

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Name a philosopher more nonsensical and obscurantist than Jacques Derrida.

Pro-tip: you can't.
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whoever wrote my diary
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>even the most nonsensical hack there is was able to BTFO analytical posterboy Searle

feels good to be team Continental ^_^
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Kant. Hegel. Fucking Heidegger.
Derrida's an open book by comparison.

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>no luso thread

Let's fix that. Post your works in the best language out there and critique others
http://pastebin.com/XMT0uxmj
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>>8643802

Se você pudesse
Naufragar nos abismos de minha alma,
Na eterna meia-noite e eclipse inderretível
Das cavernas mais fundas de meu ser
- Labirintos nos quais caminham eus estranhos -
Se você mergulhasse nessa noite
Com uma luz e olhasse as criaturas
Que a habitam, os tritões que me compõem;
Se eu pudesse lhe dar minha memória
Para você fazer nela uma autópsia,
Então você não mais teria dúvidas:
Iria confiar em mim, saber
Que eu jamais poderia abandoná-la

(Trecho...
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>>8643955

Uma meditação sobre a prisão e seus efeitos sobre as pessoas (trecho da nova peça que estou escrevendo)
YOKO: Eles vão morrer, porém gota a gota.
A prisão talvez seja uma das formas
Mais cruéis de matar, pois muitas vezes
O coração, confuso, ainda pulsa
Durante vários anos dentro do cadáver
Sem saber que o seu dono já não vive.
As paredes de pedra das masmorras
São criaturas vivas, são famintas;
Os prisioneiros são seu alimento:
Elas sugam os fluídos de suas carnes,
Elas...
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>>8643957

(Sobre a língua portuguesa)

NOBUNAGA: Linguagens são cidades invisíveis;
Algumas soam como construções
De barro, outras de ferro, outras de pedra,
Algumas de madeira, outras de gelo,
O português, porém, parece império
Modelado com seda ou com vapor de mármore.
Alguns dizem que línguas se assemelham
A criaturas vivas, a organismos;
Se fosse assim o português teria
Raios de sol nutrindo-o por veias
E a dócil luz e prata sussurrante
Do luar como os ossos que o sustentam.
O...
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>God consists of one entity in three persons and one of those three persons has two natures but all of them are reducible to an authentic unity

How can people believe this nonsense?
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DAE think religion is stupid? Like and subscribe if you agree.
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if you're too stupid for christianity you should try islam. everything is easy and simple there, clear laws and rules that the desert rapist gave you to follow. even the jews of his time knew muhammad was too retarded to understand the other two monotheistic religions, that's why he killed all the Jewish tribes there and raped them personally to satisfy his raging butthurt.

If you by chance are not a smelly, braindead Muslim, here is an explanation:

God is logic, God is love, God is creation. There is God in all things on earth, every moment of compassion,...
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>>8642318
Mate, the majority of the world's religions think the trinity is stupid.

I turn 28 in a month. I've started to finally notice time and age. As a teenager and early 20 something I felt like I had all the time in the world to read. With the responsibilities of daily life eating up a lot of time in the past three years I realized how much wasn't spent reading. I'd like to remedy this in the next couple years and read 2-4 books a month and resist the temptation of rereads.

Here is a list of my favorites:

Don Quixote - Cervantes
The Bluest Eye - Morrison
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Twain
Stoner - Williams
Blood...
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>>8641322
Schopenhauer's 'On Women'
My twisted world
Mein Kampf

In short, grow up and take the redpill
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>>8641322
Dubliners by Joyce, I don't know about the rest but it's the comfiest book I ever read.
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>>8641340

boom

Added to the list. I've only read the story with the man in the park. That was a fun one to deconstruct in high school :)

The Greeks Edition
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>>8640666
Why don't you remove all those library stickers? It looks awful.
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>>8640666

>look at all muh Greeks!
>every single one is in English

I'm not even being a dick or trolling you, it's good that you like the Greeks as much as you do, but if you like the Greeks that much you really ought to learn some Greek. It is not anywhere near as hard as most would say, easier than Latin, comparable to German. Reading the Greeks in Greek is as much of a revelation as putting on glasses for the first time for a myopic. They...
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>>8640666
did you steal all those?

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Write what's on your mind
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How good is my poetry?
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>>8634067
Found out my younger brother watches anime. Debating whether I should beat him up
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is Georges Bataille really weird? or am i?

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why he made of small ppl?
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>>8656119
it's called the square cube law, idiot
if he was just one big guy, he would collapse under his own weight, or at the very least have great difficulty regulating his body temperature
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I love this engraving
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>>8656131

>if he was just one big guy, he would collapse under his own weight,

Excuse me?

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Why haven't you read his second masterpiece?
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I loved his first book

post a page from this one
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>>8655947
>>8655950
Do any of you actually like him or is this just some sort of neo-postop-ironic meme?

I'm aware of who he is and what he wrote but the volume of posts about him seems to have increased by an unreasonable level in the past few months.
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>>8656006
It is him

He has joined is

Plebs from all around the world rejoice!

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What does /lit/ think of Vladimir Nabokov?
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>>8653942
kov general here
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>>8655718
Nabokov, Vladimir. Dislike him
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>>8655729

Second-rate, ephemeral, puffed-up.

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Is this how the average Nietzsche fag looks?
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thats not a nice thing to say
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>>8655659
Nietzsche was against women, blacks, Jews and SJW are you a numale or something? He was fucking redpilled and would probably have supported Hitler.
Fact is you aren't an ubermensch and therefore you take your resentment out on us who have climbed out of your parochial liberalism and nook of equality. We are simply better and we have seen the truth of the world
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>>8655673
>>8655673
thats not a nice thing to say

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should all students be subjected to a great books/liberal education when young (say 13-18) where they read the major works of both the east and west and the learn languages from there (up until reading proficiency)?
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>>8655535
i should add that it isn't specific to literature but includes sciences, philosophy, history, mathematics, and such but dealing with great books rather than textbooks (say reading elements rather than a geometric textbook)
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>>8655535
You are asking board that thinks reading something written by a woman or a black person is equivalent to having their girlfriends mounted by big-dicked Africans.

The answer you'll get is this: cuck globalism multicultural cuck leftist brainwashing white pride before white genocide nonwhites are simply inferior take the redpill

In short: 'no'
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if english was good enough for Christ our Savior, why should children need anything else?

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyD1vRidhyc
This scene is a meme worthy of high art.
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>>8655438
omg really makes u think xD

Thanks for posting this on the literature board
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>>8655438
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That was the worst fucking 3 minutes of my life. What a shitty movie.


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