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Alright /lit/, I've devised a master plan to escape from my shitty life. I will get religious. However I do not want to kneel to some gay religion like Christianity or Islam so I'll have to figure this stuff on my own. Recommend me literature that will make me see godliness and give me devotional energy.
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>>8638530
Start with "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything"
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>>8638530
well idk about bowing down and being a bitch but i do know quantum mechanics is pretty eye opening.
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the satanic bible

Who else /literarygenius/ here? I'm not shitposting or being ironic when I say that I am going to write the next great, and I mean truly great novel. All my professors believe that I am extremely talented, and I know that I am even more talented than they believe. I have always blown people away with my incredible writing and depth of thought.
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>>8638524
Hehe!! XD
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>>8638524
Why do you have to tell us though? Go write youre book faggot
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>>8638524
>All my professors believe that I am extremely talented

No great author would have the support of senior academics

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ITT: Only the greatest of novels only
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>>8638447
>implying thats better than 1984
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>>8638459
>>8638458

rubes

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What are some books that show me life is worth living for?
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>>8638401
The My diary, tbd
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>>8638401
none, it's not but we do it anyway
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>>8638401
bb dylan

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im going to do this challenge: reading a book starting with the 18th century BC all the way to the 21st century.

my first tale will be the Epic of Gilgamesh. what are some stories i must read circa 17th century BC to 1st century AD?
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>>8638368
What a retarded 'challenge'
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Cool challenge. I'm not well versed in ancient literature, so I'll just overtly shitpost. Good luck though, and I hope someone can be more helpful than me.

My great great great great grandfather's diary desu
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what text are you using for Gilgamesh? I'd like to give it a read as well?

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Been awhile since I've been on /lit/
Whatever happened to /lit/'s project: GUIDE TO READING WESTERN PHILOSOPHY, FROM THE GREEKS TO NOW?
Can someone link the current/most recent version.
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https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub
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>>8638259
This is definitely not the most recent version. The analytic section isn't even developed. It used to have Frege, Russell, Wittgenstein, etc.
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It's dead after /his/ was created.

What am I in for?
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?
Dicks in yer ass?
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>>8638174
nice homophobia
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>>8638185

rimbaud did like that kind of stuff, what's the deal?

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Is he the Joker of philosophy?
Why do so many edgy teenagers like him?
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>>8638157
Why do you feel the need to post this thread every day?
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>>8638170
I never posted this thread before
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>>8638157
>Why do so many edgy teenagers like him?

Because adolescence is the age of finding one's true self. Which is what Nietzsche did, but on a global scale.

What the fuck is the new adult genre?

I came across a booktuber review on youtube titled "new adult recommendations," and thought, "cool, now i have another place to talk about books other than the pseuds on /lit/." But, apparently, new adult means ya for women in their twenties.

What the fuck /lit/? Why are women so against reading the canon, that they would invent new genres to read after they get too old for ya?
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>>8638139
It's YA++.

Basically they're segmenting YA's recent explosive appeal, fine tuning it to every group of readers from mid grade at the younger end to new adult at the older.

Blame Harry Potter and the Jews.
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>>8638139
>>8638155
literally, mein gott pure ideology
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>>8638155
>people don't want to read boring drivel written by 19th century white guys

>"IT'S THE JEWS, I tells ya"

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Are there any books similar to The Alchemist which tell a story but also have some sort of philosophical message in them? Also, is pic related a good book
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>>8638131
That's a great book. Absolutely fantastic.
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>>8638131
>the alchemist
either this is bait, or you are extremely new here
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>>8638131
>Are there any books similar to The Alchemist which tell a story but also have some sort of philosophical message in them?
Way too many. And a good chunk of them do a better job than Coelho and his bland, uninspired writing. What type of philosophy are you looking for, though? Because The Alchemist and its "philosophy" are mainly inspired by Eastern philosophy.

If you want that, just read Meditations.
>Also, is pic related a good book
It really is.

ITT: Books you hate that everyone else likes
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>>8638090
Genre fiction doesn't count

Also >>>/sffg/
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brave new world.
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>disliking such a mindbender of a read

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what went wrong?
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They were all better suited for Weird Twitter than books.
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>>8638088
His next novel covers Terrence McKenna and presumably psychedelics. Make of that what you will
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>>8638088
So did you see Tao Lin at the grocery store in New York yesterday?

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Just read The Pastures of Heaven by this motherfucker. I have to say that Steinbeck was better at writing short stories than novels in his early period but I also liked To a God Unknown. What are your favorite books by Steinbeck or is /lit/ too patrician to enjoy simple prose?
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Cannery Row is one of my favourites. The foreword of my kindle edition mentions an in joke with his ex wife about the size of novels being of secondary importance to how the words are used. It really rings true for him- East of Eden was a let down of a magnum opus if ever there was one.
Haven't read The Pastures of Heaven; how did you find it?
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>>8638075
I've just been reading through all of Steinbeck's works from the beginning and I believe it was his second book. It's 10 loosely connected short stories I recommend it a lot. His other short story collection The Long Valley is quite good too. My next one to read from him is The Grapes of Wrath.
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>>8638075
>East of Eden was a let down of a magnum opus if ever there was one
I will physically attack you

I'm seeking out those who love art, Poetry. More specifically those who were inspired by Allen Ginsberg.

I'm in love with this girl who's in love with Ginsberg, he inspires her, and she inspires me.

She's studied/studying literature, she's working on her masters and she has a proposal due next Saturday. I won't act like I understand what it is, I'm actually ignorant as fuck, but we're in Egypt, and her college is still influenced with the culture that surrounds us, that is imposed on us, that we rebel against. She needs the...
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She might wake up tomorrow doubting herself, overthinking about what she did, which no one could blame her for doing.

The college demands valid sources for their student's proposals, and they don't consider wikipedia or other things like that valid. She doesn't need the book to make the proposal, she just needs it as a valid source so no one could invalidate her work.

The book's name is "I Celebrate Myself: The Somewhat Private Life of Allen Ginsberg".

I looked for it online and I asked all my friends to help me, I can't...
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copy pasta?
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>>8638053
you sound like a massive fuckin pussy

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Any literature to read about identity confusion between living a simple life vs an intellectual life?

Or resenting your own intelligence. I know i'd be a great lawyer and "fulfil" my potential but I think i'd be a happier carpenter and have a more enjoyable social life. Sort of like an ignorance is bliss sort of thing.
Thanks
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>>8637962
You don't sound like you are very intelligent. Take the plumbing job
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>>8637962
bump
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>>8637962
Menial labour empirically makes you a bitter person. Take the middle ground and do a science.

As for literature I'm not sure. Ted Kaczynsky?

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>Roger Mexico
>isn't Mexican
>isn't even from Mexico

Good job, Tommy
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What the fuck is up with pynch daddy's naming of characters? They're so ridiculous it literally goes to show how much a of a hack that guy is b
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>>8637954
it exposes pseuds like you
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>>8637954
I can't decide whether Pynchon is funny or obnoxious. The names he gives his characters, the dated and out-of-place musical interludes, and the scenes of Looney Toons slapstick toe the line between cringe and funny. It's amazing he wormed his way into high literature.

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Hey /lit/.
I'm going to be going for my second deployment rather soon, so another 6-8 months of just loving life underwater. Because of such restricted living space on the sub, I can only bring one book per deployment. I've read through most of the essential cannon, but obviously one read through doesn't sufficiently ingrain it into memory. Last time around I brought the Aeneid, and enjoyed it thoroughly. I'm aware that the Bible is the end all for multifaceted literature, but I'm looking for something a little more modern and interesting. Any suggestions...
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>>8637919
For god sake bring a kindle and load it with the modern library top 100
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>>8637926
This.

But I could read Moby-Dick for 8 months
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>>8637926
>>8637931
No electronics allowed. It's a pain in the ass, I use my kindle all the time here at home.

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Why are there no serious female philosophers?
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Define "serious"
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>>8637880
Anscombe, Arendt, de Beauvoir, Rand (kek), the list goes on
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>>8637880
>Why are there no female philosophers?
FTFY

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>didn't really "get" As I Lay Dying in high school
>used to be a huge Nabokov fanboy
>considered the Nobel Prize to be more a curse than a blessing or recommendation
>fucking James Franco
>ended up avoiding his work for a large part of my youth
>finally cracked open The Sound and the Fury
>not one of the best books I've ever read, but really...
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>>8637856
I avoided Salinger and Hemingway because I thought you had to be a bloated fucker like Nabokov to be considered a good writer.
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>>8637856
Nathaneal West's Miss Lonelyhearts. I knew it was a classic but for some reason I just put it off for a long time because I never heard much about it, then I randomly decided to as a result of 2 references to it --- one by Philip K. Dick, one by Harold Bloom. It turned out to be fucking amazing, a preternatural work and one of my favorites. I think it's highly underrated in that it's not often discussed.
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>>8637856

Thought Fitzgerald was mediocre and not worth the time after reading Gatsby. Read Tender is the Night and had my balls blown off. I try to give canon authors two shots. Not every book is fabulous, and skill can vary drastically over a lifespan.

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a friend read a 3rd person omnipresent story that i wrote. He said that the plot was good but it was written in such an awfully boring way that he couldn't finish it. i know how to write 1st person in a entertaining way but im so lost on how to do the same for third person. do you buds have any tips. thank you
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>>8637839
Can you post the stories you wrote so we can give you advices?

One in 3rd person, the other in 1st
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oh boy its so poorly written i'd be ashamed>>8637864
I'd be scared that you guys would steal my ideas but its so crappy i doubt u guys would. i started writing this year. it's an art i want to master. i don't know where to go to get better at writing. I look on the internet for articles with tips but it barely helps. Would reading lots of books and trying learn from how they do it be the best way? how have you guys gotten better or learned how to do it well?
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>>8637890
Well first off you want to polish up on your type.
Right now you don't capitalize 'i' and to a native english reader that's pretty awful.
The best advice I got was that starting as a writer is a balance between 'confidence' and 'self-awarness'. You should be afraid, that's good, that means you can get better but you can't do that unless we can see your work.

When I started writing seriously I was already older so I understood it was terrible immediately...
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Anyone here read this? If so, thoughts?
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>>8637792
i like the pictures :D
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I saved every page when some anon posted it on /b/. It's pretty neat. I'd love to do a /tg/ in that setting one day.
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>>8638015
Share some with us, anon. And what about it makes you want to do /tg/ ?

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What does /lit/ think of him?
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>>8637755
Commie
Feminist girlfriend
Didn't believe in God

Here on /lit/ we believe in the redpill which is pro God, anti equality (there is a racial and gender hierarchy, with the white male on top), and believe women belong in the kitchen

So really? You're asking this?
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>>8637755
Why would you want to know that, OP?
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complete hack

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or was it mainly the language of science
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The Metamorphosis by Ovid
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>>8637696
you're not really asking, right?
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The Holy Bible and my diary.

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What's your opinion on DRM?
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>>8637688
Let's just say I'm redpilled and against globalism
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I am torn, because as a person I want to make money, but as a writer I want my works to be read by any who'll read it.
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>>8637695
I'm afraid that doesn't answer my question, though I THINK what you're saying is... you're... for it?

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I have come to a chilling realization, my dear /lit/.
As I've learned and read about a myriad of knowledge of psychology, genetics, economics, law and social dynamics, I have realized through much introspection and humility that I am a being that has reached an impasse. I am a hypocrite, as all people are, but I seem to give the appearance of a being that is of high social value, intellectually, socially, and in other areas of which people judge one another. I am far from it. I secretly suffer from chronic depression, this has lead me to a deep study of positive psychology...
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>>8637624
>literature

sage and report

Go to the board for losers

>>>/r9k/
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Depression has no cure.
Have fun never being truly happy, thats what Im trying to do.
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Genetics are the beginning and end for now, Until some sort of scientific breakthrough where people could earn it

Your strength plateauing is normal

Feeling like you are faking it is normal

I don't know what else to say since I kinda skimmed, yeah shit sucks, you seem selfaware though so Idk, just chill

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>poet is homosexual
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>>8637617
Homos write really well, though
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All poets are faggots.
There is one chapter on Savage Detectives explaining it.
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>poet is a socialist

>pic related
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>>8637607
Ayn Rand and JK Rowling
>Runs as fast as my legs can carry me
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They don't exist.

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>When Gregor Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed into David Foster Wallace.
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>>8637554
h o l y . . .

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA Because David is a monstrous vermin amirite? That's how your pretentious fucks translate that line.

Well let me tell you, how about you write two novels, three volumes of short stories, a history of advanced mathematics and countless essays before coming out of your little hole and talking shit.

You are fucking nothing.
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>>8637585
...At least I have the sense to know I'm shit and not write.

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>Fear and intelligence. If it is true, as is now most definitely asserted, that the cause of black skin pigmentation is not to be sought in the action of light, could it perhaps not be the ultimate effect of frequent attacks of rage (and undercurrents of blood beneath the skin) accumulated over thousands of years? While with the other, more intelligent races an equally frequent terror and growing pallid has finally resulted in white skin? For degree of timidity is a measure of intelligence, and frequently to give way to blind rage a sign that animality...
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>>8637506
White men
>Smart cowards
Black men
>Dumb beasts
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>>8637512
And early human was both?
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>>8637516
Half the way between both.

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>Mine: The Communist Manifesto
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>>8637472
mein kampf
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SCUM Manifesto
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>>8637472
This shit tricked me into buying it. Fuck I need my money back.


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