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Should dead characters remain dead? What do you think of resurrection in stories? Except where symbolic, do you feel like it is a sign of shitty writing? If context matters, think a Star-Wars-esque sci-fi story.
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>think a Star-Wars-esque sci-fi story.

I would rather not think that
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If that's even a valid question you're not talking about literature you're talking about genreshit.
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>>8630603

This is the only board to discuss books, alright?

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Have any of you even heard/read "It's arlight ma (I'm only bleeding)" ?

This man was by far one of the greatest american poets, no question. No Whitman, no Melville, but surely a match for good ol' Pinecone and Dellilo

>inb4 memes
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Darkness at the break of noon
Shadows even the silver spoon
The handmade blade, the child's balloon
Eclipses both the sun and moon
To understand you know too soon
There is no sense in trying.

Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fools gold mouthpiece
The hollow horn plays wasted words
Proved to warn
That he not busy being born
Is busy dying.

Temptation's page flies out the door
You follow, find yourself at war
Watch waterfalls of pity roar
You feel to moan but unlike before
You...
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>>8630571
While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.

But I mean no harm nor put fault
On anyone that lives in a vault
But it's alright, Ma, if I can't please him.

Old lady judges, watch people in pairs
Limited in sex, they dare
To push fake morals, insult and stare
While money doesn't talk, it swears
Obscenity,...
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>>8630571
God-tier song writer.

Not a poet, though.

Also stop comparing him to memechon and Delillo, totally different mediums.

Also,
WHY THE FUVK DONT YOU PUT THIS IN THE TEN OTHER DYLAN THREADS??????,???????

safe and report

ITT: The scariest books and stories you've ever read.

inb4 House of Leaves, Shirley Jackson
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>>8630522
>books
>scary

Are you a gay
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>>8630534

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>>8630534
Yes

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Is there any argument for ethics and morality?

I completely despise nihilists who don't follow any ethics and believe in nothing. But I don't see any reason to do good to others, besides doing it for your own happiness. For example, I treat my friends well, so they will continue to be my friends, therefore making me enjoy our conversations for longer. But if I realize that doing good to someone won't make me happier, than I won't do it.
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>>8630483
Social contract theory

Or the whole God thing

Pick your poison
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Pic reminds me of this japanese-enthusiast girl I see on the bus sometimes. I think she was smiling at me, sometimes looking at me briefly, but I didn't make a point of showing she'd caught my attention. Should I talk to her next time, "out of nowhere", or is that morally inadequate?
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>>8630489
>Social contract theory
Literally what I said, do good to others if it does good to you. Do not do bad things or you go to jail.

>Religion
Interesting, but doesn't count

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Language isn't real you tards. After reading Derrida and Foucault, I've concluded that all words are an illusion to convey concepts verbally. Fretting about the details of the wording in my argument proves that you're insecure.
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what
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>>8630464
Please sage when responding to shitposts
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>in my first tutorial for "Government and Politics of the Middle East"
>tutor is an Italian post-structuralist Foucault fan
>spends a good fifteen minutes explaining that all discourse is compromised by "where you come from"
>basically if you're a white man or even just born in the West you're automatically disqualified
>1/3rd of the class are white and about 2/3rds are westerners

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I'm interested in Voltaire, where should Istart?
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>>8630432
With his refutation of the Holy Roman Empire.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eByLbWzDA1E
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>>8630432
>Zadig
>Candide
>Treatise on Tolerance
>Philosophical Dictionary
>Letters concerning the English nation
Most of his other works are irrelevant.

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In Good Will Hunting when Will list his soul mates as: "Shakespeare, Nietzsche, Frost, O'Conner, Kant, Pope, Locke", who is O'Conner, Kant, and Pope? Really wanna read their work.
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>>8630402
alexander pope
Immanuel Kant
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>>8630416
Flannery O'Connor?
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Prob flannery o'connor, although she's a weird fit with the rest

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The golden fang conspiracy wrapped around my head like a kite on a windy day
I still don't know the boards's role in the conspiracy or why Coy had to stay there specifically
I figured the league of dentists were a spook for the cartel, a front for their money or something.
A lot of things got past me, and I felt like that was unavoidable, but one thing i'm certain of is the ending was goddamn comfy.
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>>8630400
>the ending was goddamn comfy
u wut m9

wat was the deal with the nixon nux tho
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>>8630409
>u wut m9
At the end doc is sitting in a caravan, thinking about the fog. He's daydreaming, fantasizing about what he's going to do next, there's something comfy in that last paragraph.
>nixon nux(bux?)
I guess they were intending to flood the market with nixon bills, but that doesn't make sense because they're obviously counterfeit.
The only thing I can think of (and it sounds crazy) is that nixon was going to declare...
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The point is for you not to know.

I just read this, was it good?
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every time soprano posts in chat i physically cringe and im just hoping spirit's worthless autistic ass does something good for once and bans her
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I see you're developing new linguistic habits. A commodity for awkward minds; you speak, and then you give the other an indication of what he's supposed to ask, eliminating the possibility of clueless silence.

Was it good?
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>>8630441
>and then you give the other an indication of what he's supposed to ask
I didn't intend that, I legitimately want to know if what I just read was good or not.
I don't want to bring it up in a conversation and say it was good and then seem like an idiot for liking something bad.

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Sup /lit/, new around these parts.

I've been rereading my favorite children's books, A Series of Unfortunate Events, and I have to say I'm enjoying them quite a lot.

Can we have a discussion?
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>>8630383
This is a topic belongs on one of the containment boards for low IQ manchildren e.g. /tv/, /pol/, /co/, /b/.

Please do not post here again.
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>>8630405
I see Harry Potter threads here as well as those boards.

"Please do not post here again."
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>>8630383
I want to fuck Violet.

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Thoughts on this?
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>italian cities
never again
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It's shit.
Essential slutcore.
Pseudophilosophy.
Good only if you like endless meaningless ramblings about love and the smell of pussy.
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>>8630381
gave it a shot, left it unfinished after 40 pages in
one of the few books i don't regret not finishing

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Schopenhauer was wrong in his righteousness.

He is correct on everything he says, but he cares too much about them. That's why he is called the most negativistic philosopher, because of phrases like "Happiness is only the short relief of pain" and "The meaning of life is to relieve of pain" which basically means that "Happiness is the meaning of life", yet if you told him that he would deny it.

In my opinion he is ridiculous. He obviously had depression, and that's a reason for him to be sad, but yet he always refused to...
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>>8630334
Who cares? He was right about worthless roastwhores. He's fucking
BASED
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>>8630334
The eyes chico, they never lie

On the left we have Matthieu Ricard, who has been hailed by scientists as absurdly upbeat. And on the right we have Schopenhauer, the Pessimist
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>>8630334
>ignoring such negative outlets and focusing on the positive ones

Would you say this is what Nietzsche did with his philosophy? And if not, can you point me to some who did?

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Soo whats the deal with this guy? Currently reading this, finding it extremely overwrought even for prose...
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>>8630331
his long podcast about terrence mckenna is pretty comfy
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Let's just move on, it's over.
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>>8630331
Shut the fuck up it's not a very distant year from a long time ago no one cares about Tao Lin it's as of right now this year so don't bring things up from prior years in this year we'll become bored and we don't go on the internet to become bored so if you're asking whether this boring book is or is not really boring you on a board where people go not to be bored then you're going to be doing the wrong thing on that board, the thing people don't want you to do, so stop it. Go...
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What do you think about the brazilian covers of this book?

http://www.nerdmaldito.com/2016/10/as-belissimas-capas-brasileiras-de.html
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>>8630279
>Brazil is just now reading Neuromancer
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>>8630279
I don't care
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>>8630279
Completely apathetic, in fact I didn't even look at the link. You're welcome.

sage

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It seems that I can only read around 20 pages before losing comprehension. Does this happen to anyone else and if so, what can I do to read for longer periods?
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>>8630259
You need to go back to when you were in your mother's womb, or to be safe, to just before, and stop your parents from drinking ten standards every single day.
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Try cutting back on watching television, if you're really interested in reading then you might not miss it, and don't read where there's a television on in the room.

the same goes for mindless web-surfing, as fun as a site as stumbleupon, 4chan, or [spoilerreddit[/spoiler] might be, it's only another factor that impacts your attention span (>What's the next webpage? What about the next one? There are too many words here let's see the next webpage. Stumble. Stumble. Stumble!)

When you start reading, set a page or time limit and don't stray from it unless there's an emergency. It's up to you to decide what counts as an emergency and what doesn't.

Turn off your phone or leave it in another room, my phone s really good at taking attention away from my work, so I do everything I can, short of burying it in the yard, to make sure I don't have to look at it when i'm studying/writing/reading.

Try reading in quiet, comfortable places with few points of distraction. If your house is too busy, make a plan to head to the library, alternatively you can go to a coffee shop or even the park, as they're typically low volume.

Mosst importantly, have fun with it. If you're reading something that isn't catching your attention then take a break from it, read something else or move on to another activity until you're ready to go back to it. If the material just isn't enjoyable then consider dropping it for good and move on.

Hope these points help, I tried my best in keeping the post short, lest you lose focus halfway through ;^)
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Why are people so against taking breaks?

In Swann's Way, Proust talked about taking regular breaks during reading, even when he was an ardent reader.

The idea that you have to read a 300 page novel/book from cover to cover in a day (and, importantly, without breaks!) is a weird fucking meme. The subsequent idea that you can read a lot and quickly while having perfect recollection of the book and understanding all the intricacies of the book in one pass -- that's also fucking bullshit.

Not all books are the same. Some are easier to read than others;...
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ITT: high quality magazines and newspapers.

I'd like to keep up to date with the world but most news outlets are worthless.
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>>8630254
There are good news outlets

The daily stormer
/pol/
Stormfront
Breitbart
Fox News
Info wars
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I had a trial subscription for the London review of books. Some great think pieces and in-depth stuff but anything political is just irritating because of how left-leaning they are. That's the reason I dropped it: too much white guilt and hatred of men/the right.
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>>8630258
Please don't group storm front with breitbart. The former is a neo nazi forum the latter is a conservative news site.

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There's a book festival in my town this weekend, but I've never heard of any of the people who will be there. Is it worth it to go anyway?

Also should I ask the cute girl in my lit class to go with me?
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>>8630224
Redpilled intellectual frogposter here.

There will probably only be shit minority writers. Oh and your 'qt girl' only yearns or Chad cock and is superficial and a massive worthless whore.

Stay home and watch anime
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>>8630244
So, you're telling me to go and ask her to come with me? Got it
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>>8630244
>watch anime

Perfectly correct post otherwise.

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When and why did literature become more concerned about style than content?
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>>8630191
Form is content
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>>8630197
sure form requires content to be expressed, but no one is going to spend 40 pages describing a dress unless one cares more about style than content
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When it became a widespread belief that there are no new ideas, which makes content irrelevant as it has no novelty.

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Does Bloom have the highest powerlevel of any literary character?
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>>8630169
Heard him praise an African-American poet the other day, so no.
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>>8630215
well Robert Johnson was a huge cuck so...
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>>8630169

I like Richard III better

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How does one learn about themselves?
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Life experience/ meditation
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>>8630104
Read Freud, Marx, and Nietzsche
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>>8630119
What will this do?

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How do you deal with loneliness while reading?

I never feel so lonely as when I'm reading.
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maybe you just don't read good enough, meaning that you are distracting yourself too much
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Surround yourself with positive people only, refrain from browsing any new-age ideology communities that only make you more fucked up (like redpill). In time this will make you feel how you're supposed to feel, in harmony with yourself. There's a difference between being alone and feeling alone. Being alone is ok, feeling alone is unnecessary and hinders you.
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>>8630071
I guess I'm just ok with it

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/lit/ please help me I have lost my will to read, what can I do to regain that
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force feed thyself
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>>8630100
But I can't read any other shit that sci-fi and fantasy but I need to read some classic literature(preferably French)
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>>8630121
What do you mean you can't? You can, you just don't want to. Gotta break through and the breaking through might not be as pleasant as reading scifi and fantasy, but the process is really straightforward.

How would he have btfo'd Das Kapital?
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He wouldn't have

Shit likes shit
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>>8630014
he wouldn't
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>Mind declares it has inverted its own priority over the concrete
>Mind now subsumes itself to physical processes
>Mind has negated Mind through Mind's own unfolding

huh.

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Which one, /lit/?
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>>8629994
Kobo :)
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>>8629994
Book

Anyone who answers otherwise is gay and probably likes justin beiber
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The kindle/mobile reading has the benefit that you can tap a word and it will show you the definition. Books can't do this.

But I still prefer books because I like to sit in buses and trains and make people see what I'm reading. Sometimes I'll spent hours considering which cover of a book I should buy.

College Majors other than English that could make one a better writer.

Psychology.
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>>8629877
Sociology.
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>>8629877
History.
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>>8629877
>Psychology.
Astrology.

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Hello, can anyone tell me wich is the language of this book, its topic or its name?
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It's Hebrew.
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herbal, i think
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An other photo

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Post the book you're currently reading and waifu.
Robert Walser - Jakob Von Gunten
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Das Schloss
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Worm - Taylor Hebert
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The Pillow Book

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what's the worst book you've ever read

pic related
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>>8629802
Gravity's Rainbow
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House of Leaves

Although maybe it's better to call it the most disappointing

Every single good moment was destroyed by blatantly telling you what dots you should have connected and even worse, by "LE POSTMODERN YOUTH" Truant passages. Johnny's parts of the book are some of the hardest pieces of writing to sit through I have ever come across. Pure garbage. And the book could have been so good, too
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>>8629815
You must not have read many books.

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New to reading and I have a hard time getting into books when the first paragraph doesn't tell me where the person is. What I mean by this:
I can't build the story in my mind when I don't have the location or environment info and it's making me frustrated. Do I just keep reading or how do you guys deal with this?

I imagine this post can sound like trolling but I can assure you I am this retarded.
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>>8629781
might you have autism?
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>>8629781
Go back to your anime and 'vidya'

>>>/r9k/
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>>8629781

>>8629791
This. Just quit literature, bud, it's not for you.

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just finished the Wind-Up bird chronicle

I was expecting a more satisfying ending, but apparently if I had read other Murakami I would have known not to expect that.

My questions are:
Why did Creta and Malta suddenly disappeared?
What exactly did Noburu do to Kumiko?
What was the thing Toru killed at the end?
What was up with the last few pages?
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Well with Murakami, the journey is definitely the main focus point rather than the ending. Most of the things you mentioned such as what Noburu did to Kumiko, the thing Toru killed, and the resolution are all pretty much metaphors left up to the reader to decide. Creta Kano, in my interpretation, is the fruitful part of Toru's life shown by her fertility, a direct contrast to Kumiko. Most of the novel is pretty much centered around the concept of self-identity, and displayed my means of the weird metaphors Murakami likes to use.
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what was up with that child watching some guys fucking around with a tree in the backyard in the middle of the night? did that have any purpose for the story? it just felt unrelated to me
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>>8629912
That was Cinnamon, it's how he lost the ability to speak.


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