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I can't read a book where the main character is such a huge religious fuck tard. Is he seriously asking why god is laying all his negative feelings on him and not someone else? He's so fucking stupid, I don't see how I have anything to gain from a book where "probing the depths of the human condition" means digging into the mind of a moron. There's nothing to gain from reading books about religious morons.
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God dammit.
In my last meme purge I deleted all my fedora memes.
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>>8625196
Being a rational person isn't fedora.
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>>8625193
Read the book of Job. Job actually moves past that to openly accusing God of negligence.

Greatest living Novelist?

I think so.
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Uh... Bob Dylan just won the Novel
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>>8625187
lmfao
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Is his other stuff better than Never Let Me Go? It wasn't bad, just nowhere near "greatest living author" tier.

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After reading a portion of The Greeks™, I was particularly interested by the passage towards the end of Portrait of the Artist As a Young Man which concerns aesthetics ("esthetics" as Joyce has it).

What can I go on to read in order to learn more about this subset of philosophy?

Pic related, perhaps?
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>>8625143
Joyce is talking about Aquinas mostly, so yes.
But getting into Aquinas in general is hard and needs preparation as his language is specific and will be misunderstood by almost every modern reader.
Aside Aristotle, I would recommend Copleston, Feser and MacIntyre as reads before jumping into the man himself. His aesthetics and everything else depends on his metaphysics.
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>>8625152
>will be misunderstood by almost every modern reader.
in what way?
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>>8625154
His words have different meanings to him as opposed to us today. Alongside that, you need to get into the medieval mindset, which is wholly different than the protestant liberal materialistic view we cannot shake.

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what is your opinion on hunagrain literature?
Pic sorta related
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What the hell is a hunagrain? some obscure alien from Dragon Ball Z?
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>>8625033
Even though I'm Hungarian, I haven't read a Hungarian book since high school, desu senpai. But I will read Háború és háború by Krasznahorkai in the near future.
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We read Paul Street Boys for school as kids.
It is not a very good kids book.

Other than that I've had no experience with Hungarian literature.

Is Indian philosophy just a meme? Has anyone really studied this guy in depth? Does it stand a chance against the Greeks?
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>>8624962
whose skin is s/he (not sure of their gender by this pic) sitting upon? is it the world's small tiger? it weirdly looks as a rare species of a bat
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*smallest
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i've studied for 5 years.
>>ask me anything

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Anyone here have an opinion on "A frolic of his own"?
Recognitions and J R are so loved here, do you feel the same way about this one?
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Yes
No
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>>8625172
Please do elaborate. I want to read more Gaddis and this book is expensive as heck so I'm not sure about it.
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>>8624958
It was actually the first book of his I read and I loved it, however, The Recognitions and even JR (a very cynical work) are way less cynical than A Frolic of his Own, and people who've started w/ R and JR tend to think his later works are too cynical and unrewarding to read. Since I didn't have any previous expectations, I was able to enjoy it.

Personally, it's still one of my favorite works.

Also, you can't find it in your library?

why the fuck did bob dylan win a nobel prize in literature when he's a fucking musician? did they just decide that his music wasn't very good but his lyrics are? even then it shouldn't qualify, holy shit.
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>he hasn't even responded yet

i'm so embarrassed for the academy at this point
they thought they were gonna rock the boat and the captain doesn't even fucking care
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Maybe I'm right and maybe I'm wrong
Maybe I'm weak and maybe I'm strong
But nevertheless I'm in love with you

Maybe I'll win and maybe I'll lose
And maybe I'm in for crying the blues
But nevertheless I'm in love with you

Somehow, I know at a glance
The terrible chances I'm taking
Fine at the start
Then left with a heart that is breaking

Maybe I'll live the life of regret
And maybe I'll give much more than I'll get
But nevertheless I'm in love with you

Maybe...
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>>8624948
Are we still posting this? Literature prizes are a fraud and the Nobel prize no different.
Now fuck off back to /a/

I'm moving to Japan next month.

Will I have better luck getting an American agent and selling my novels to a publisher if I use the Japanese form of my name instead of my fucking white male name in correspondence and bylines?
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>>8624934
What the fuck is the Japanese form of your name?
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>>8624941
Orewa Ochinchin Daisukenandayo
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>>8624941
Basically what I was thinking of doing is, wherever English is required, I'd use the standard Japanese phonetic approximation of my name written in romanji instead of my real name written in Latin. But I'd also use my name in kanji wherever Japanese is required.

Let's sat my whitey name is David Foster Wallace. I'd drop the middle name.

kanji: 出美努生夫令寿
romanji: Debiddo Uooresu

I'd address the submission envelope with my name in romanji in the English sender...
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>been watching lots of zizek videos on youtube
>youtube now recommends dozens of noam chomsky videos
Why does youtube do this? Does it have poor taste? Chomsky is a hack and Zizek is a true visionary.
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>>8624892
> he doesn't know about the Zizek-Chomsky "clash"

In truth it's probably because some fag spams Youtube full of monetized videos of Zizek and Chomsky with fake titles. Turns out that there are situations when you want copyright strikes to work.
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>>8624892
>Chomsky is a hack and Zizek is a true visionary
this is bait
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>>8624896
What clash?

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Do you know any poets and do you have a favorite poem?
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I really like Rumi, its pretty cool stuff if you are interested in sufism.
Stay together, friends.
Don’t scatter and sleep.

Our friendship is made
of being awake.

The waterwheel accepts water
and turns and gives it away,
weeping.

That way it stays in the garden,
whereas another roundness rolls
through a dry riverbed looking
for what it thinks it wants.

Stay here, quivering with each moment
like a drop of mercury.
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>>8624967
I too like Rumi but boy is everything homoerotic.
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>>8625007
I bet his asshole was quite Rumi after long nights of "friendship"

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>No I haven't read that ye-
>"Oh! you should!"
>Yeah I've been meaning to...
...for years...
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>>8624824
I've recently started to a book(Foucault's Pendulum of Eco) that I bought in 1997, and procrastinating ever since.
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>>8624983
Might as well just procrastinate eternally. I read a few of Foucault's books before I realized how flimsy his system of "truth" is.
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>>8624993
>I read [...] few [...] books
It shows

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Any of you heard of David Gemmell (heroic fantasy writer). If so can you think of a similar heroic fantasy writer ?
Thx
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bump in the name of Chkrrloth, God of blood and broken bones !
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>>8624758
did he write those book about the dragontails?
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>>8624796

I don't think so, which books ?

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So is there any good argument for truth independent of human interpretation?
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>/philosophymajors/
If you're not going to discuss literary corpus of Plato, please fuck off
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That's a big question, OP.
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There wouldn't be even if truth independent of human interpretation was actually a thing.

>“It is the most beautiful of all translations of the Bible; indeed it is probably the most beautiful piece of writing in all the literature of the world.” -H. L. Mencken

What did this fedora mean by this?

Is it a coincidence that the most beautiful work of literature is also the greatest spiritual guide we have?
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Geneva Bible > King James Bible > NRSV > all others

fight me
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>>8624640

The Geneva Bible contains slanted translations with even more slanted marginal notes which are distracting to readers.

NSRV is one of the "gender" neutered version of the bible. NRSV removes the very important messianic phrase “Son of Man” from the entire Old Testament (feminists are offended at having two gender distinctions). And so when we read Daniel 7:13, in the NRSV, we find the "Son of Man" is taken out of the prophecy referring to Jesus and replaced with "one like a human being".
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>>8624637
I'm sorry, I just can't take anybody claiming an English translation is the best product of literature seriously. You people have no idea how poor your language is grammar-wise. Feel free to produce great literature in your own language, but refrain from praising your translations, because they are all botched. Get real.

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Why does /lit/ never talk about D.H. Lawrence? He seems like he'd be right up our sexually frustrated alley
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>>8624634
Nah, you actually have to have experienced love and sex to get him.

I quite liked Sons and Lovers, but it's a bit unpolished.
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>>8624634
he got me into poetry.

this one by him is amazing

http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/Poets/L/LawrenceDH/AndOhThatThe/index.html
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Not a great novelist but pretty nifty at verse, as exemplified by >>8624801

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Is it good?
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>>8624631
It sucks

Haven't read it btw
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>>8624631
the bookchemist liked it.
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>>8624631
it's pynchon, you know it sucks

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Just finished My Name is Red, what should I read next from Pamuk/ Turkish literature?
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Pamuk is shit tier. If you genuinly liked his writing, there is no hope for you but you should try Ahmet Hamdi Tanpınar with "Saat Ayarlama Enstitüsü"
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>>8624572
Life is a Caravanserai.
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>>8624572
Tutunamaynlar and then kill yourself

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The last three books I read were The Lord of The Rings, Dune, and Foundation.
I enjoyed them.
Am I a hopeless pleb?
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Yes.
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>>8624486
depends what you enjoyed them for
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>>8624486

>Am I a hopeless pleb?

you're only starting out.

you'll find yourself naturally progressing to more difficult books as you continue. don't get meme'd on just read.

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Hi.

Would anyone direct me to a site when I could download the brothers Grimm's "German Legends" ("Deutsche Sagen"), in English? I already searched, but I can't find anything.

Thanks.
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>>8624477
>when

*where
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>>8624477
>>8624480
read the pastebin you useless nigger
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>>8624483

?

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Anyone here have a favorite reprint press?
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penguin
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>>8624429
>folio
tacky trash for idiots with a lot of money and no class
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Thus Spoke Zarathustra folio print looks pretty good

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What books make me feel like I have a gf?
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>>8624408
white nights
it lets you know that all women are lying whores
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>>8624408
My.. -wait.... :(
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>>8624408
Catcher in the Rye

also: Ada by Nabokov

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>tfw thrillers are the only kind of books I enjoy reading

How do I get interested in other genres?
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Start by growing up
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Raine you’re one of the first girls I met in in Bryn Athyn. I clearly remember you and Nick coming up to me as I first walked out of the dorm at summer camp and asking if I was Austin Grubb and then introducing yourselves. I don’t remember being as struck by your beauty then as I was once school actually started. I suppose being the new kid I had a lot to take in and the details weren't all sticking yet. That’s actually all I remember of you from camp off the top of my head but i’m sure my memory could be jogged by pictures of stories.
Fast forward 2 months...
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i don't understand how it's possible to enjoy reading thrillers or YA fiction or other such things. care to explain?

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am I a writer if I've made over 200,000 posts on 4chan in the last 10 years?
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>>8624379
Is that a glass of semen?
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>get published
>get famous
>scholars dig through and collect every 4chan post made from your ip addresses for posthumous release
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>that bulge shop

You have to love /tv/ sometimes.

>>8624379
No.

Also
>200000 posts in 10 years
>averages about 55 posts per day, each and every day

It's bizarre how easy that could be to reach, especially via shitposting...

I suppose, if you copy and paste each comment you make into a separate word document (perhaps with context; perhaps not), you might have a real work in your hands.

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lit/ makes an novel about Anonymous Board Subculture, its Ethos and the people here. What is the plot, how it could be interesting? Help me lit/, metalanguage feels.
>And the next Nobel Prize goes to... Anonymous.
Kek
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>>8624360
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikisource/en/4/42/The_Legacy_of_Totalitarianism_in_a_Tundra.pdf
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>>8624485
Mfw this shit is real, did any of you guys actually read that? What did thinked?
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>>8624360
prior conflict to the story: /lit/ thinks it can write a novel

I read the first 114 pages, when does it get good and not astoundingly boring?
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>>8624323
Drop it, it's shit
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idk never read the book
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>>8624323
I'm reading it too. Like 250 pages in, it gets a little better, but doesn't really go anywhere. Maybe I'm a pleb but I liked CLO49 a lot more since at least it was easy to follow where the plot went. Here it's hard to remember since there's so many characters and so many time jumps

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Who are some of the greatest/most known authors that never really went to college/university?

Anything from standard fantasy to esoteric literature.
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>>8624254
homer :3
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>>8624254
Well there's Shakespeare of course.
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>>8624254
Gaddis went to Harvard but got expelled before graduating.

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Which obscure country has the best origin story?
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>>8624240
Bump
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>>8624240
argentina the most darkie country in the continent
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>>8624240
The US.

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I'm sure I will get called a pleb for this but is anyone here more interested as a person? I don't really are much about his philosophy but when ever I read anything about him I think it is pretty cool.
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>>8624125
He was a weird autist.

Someone post all those hilarious quotes about him embarrassing himself around people
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>>8624125
I love him as a person too, but that's because I recognize that his life is an expression of his philosophy. Maybe this is true of everyone, but he's the clearest expression of it.

>>8624128
There's no shortage of stories I'm sure, but one of my favorite is that LW would have long passages in his coded journals about not being a faithful lover with different individuals etc. and essentially all of them were imagined romances. Basically the...
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>>8624137
Are you an adult male who uses the word 'waifu'?

If so, I can understand your infatuation with his person

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What is a cuckstool?
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That took me 5 seconds to google
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Your mom.
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>>8624065
That's what we called your mom in prison

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Id' like to read something like it or something with a very unmoral main character. The nastier the guy the better.
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>>8624023
The Old Testament
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>>8624023
my diary desu
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>>8624023
Other Irvine Welsh novels? Filth maybe?


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