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Thoughts?
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>>8624015
Bit shit.

If you're an anime pedophile you'll probably like it
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>>8624017
>If you're an anime pedophile you'll probably like it
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>>8624015
this book speaks me

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What was his endgame?
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To defeat the Formics
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>>8623981
Genuine question, hope you can help me out. Why do people find these memes funny, i.e. posting a picture and saying 'what did he mean by this', 'really makes you think', 'wow I hate [x] now', 'what's his endgame?', etc.?

What is it supposed to do?
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>>8623981
sick fits

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Why do Bloom and Nabokov etc. have such high praise for Jane Austen yet /lit/ thinks she's a poopstink?
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Because I'm smarter than Bloom and Nabokov.
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Why does society in general seem to have such high praise for women when they have never contributed anything to culture, philosophy, or science?
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Why do you care what Judy Bloom thinks?

Are we living in postmodernity? It always seemed like an overly scholarly concern before, but the collective train ride has gotten a little too crazy in too many regards to not ask the question.
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>>8623874
>the collective train ride has gotten a little too crazy in too many regards
What regards? Explain
Inb4: Dylan
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not since the late 80s no
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>>8623874
yes duh

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Best modern English bible translations? I read the Genesis in the KJV and I just couldn't take it.
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Yeah, KJV is notoriously bad with the Pentateuch (and the NKJV isn't much better).

"Best" is kind of dubious, and you should be wary of any translation (or proponents of a translation) claiming to be the best. On /lit/ and most other places, the biggest recommendations will be on the formal equivalence side of things (i.e. translating from the best versions of the original texts, word for word, as closely as can be done). However, you might consider some dynamic equivalent books (i.e. paraphrasing or translating via the same sources but with a "thought...
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It's a bit obscure, simply because it's an old Catholic translation, but I like the Douay-Rheims translation. It's translated from St. Jerome's Vulgate. It's mostly for TradCats though
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ESV and NRSV (in that order)

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What are some books that help you cope with gender dysphoria?
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>>8623730
Is this the latest form of /pol9k/ shitposting?

If you are sincere, ask /lgbt/. The redpillers will stop any attempt here.
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>>8623737
its sincere
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>>8623730
You realise unless there's a breakthrough in stem cell research, most of society will never conceive of you as a girl, right? The passing MtF trans already had physical preconditions that most MtFs don't have, even if they were to undergo strenuous surgery (unless you can afford surgery holistically, in which case your entire body would probably degrade into something much more disgusting at middle age).

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Does this mean this is the only book that contains no autism?
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>>8623658
How old are you?
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>>8623658
Strangely enough, there's a lot of autism in this book...
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>>8623662
I've circumvented the Sun twenty-two times in a span of twenty-two years if that's what you mean. I haven't matched myself with the speed of atoms yet.

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I roughed up a cover for my novel as NaNoWo is about to start up. I thought this would help motivate me, and it has actually. If you saw this, would it perk your interest? Don't judge a book by a cover, but we do it anyways.
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>>8623648
probably no, i will think that is some furry thing.
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it looks like shit but I get the feeling thats what you're going for
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>>8623678
Well someone woke up on the floor this morning.

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Is there an actual reason why comma splices are bad and looked down upon or is it just some retarded formality?
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>>8623601
It's a sign of laziness, low intelligence, or edginess. It's evidence that the rest of the text won't be worth your time.
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I do this all the time, and I hate myself for it.
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use a fucking semicolon

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What are some good starting books to read about the World Wars? I'd like to start from WWI to understand the relations between nations at the time, the politics leading to the war, the actual battles fought, and the aftermath following.

Autobiographies are encouraged.
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youre not gonna get good autobiographies on ww i or ii that give u what u want.

try death and retribution by christopher atlee or maybe

edge of obliteration by gerald scheerer

im sure they will have what youre looking for


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I think Sleepwalkers explains how WWI came to be. Haven't read it though, was a recommendation from my history teacher.
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Psychology of the Great War by Gustave Le Bon

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Holy fuck, lit. He looks terrible.

Anyone down for a meet-up at his funeral?
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>>8623549
Most people on here seem like /r9k/-tier losers, so probably no.
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>>8623556
I'd like to believe we're a little more intelligent than the frequents of that board.
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Why does he always make that self pitying FML face?

Critique Thread

i've started work on a new short story called The Island:

When Esmeralda rose in the morning to fetch the water she would tread carefully on the regions of the floorboards closest to the wall, so as not to wake the Old Woman with their creaking. Though the Old Woman was blind she knew the house as well as a spider knows its web, and the slightest vibrations in its furthest regions would be enough to raise her from her chair and set her tapping across the floor with her cane, croaking “who is it?” in her dry and ancient voice. Esmeralda...
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cont.

When she emerged from the house with her two buckets clattering on their pole, Esmeralda found a pale and silent island softened by its veil of fog. It clung to the trees, hung shining dewdrops in the grass, whisped noiselessly across the colorless sands of the beaches. As it moved in sheets and layers before her eyes, it would hide and then reveal the long fishhook of the island where it stretched out to sea. The well was out there, on the furthest curved point of the hook, an ancient and mossy cairn of stones built before living memory. There was a freshwater...
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>>8623544
It's not bad. The plot, or what's been posted so far of it, is interesting. It reads a little slow though. Something clunky about it. Doesn't pop for me. It almost sounds a little outdated. If you're like the rest of /lit/ and don't read books written post-1980 (excluding that book from '96), you should do so.

It's absolutely worth finishing though, and I do like the whole thing about not waking up her island-mate. Immediately had me asking questions, which made me want to read more.
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>>8623581

now that you mention it, I don't read many modern books. I do want it the writing feel sort of old fashioned, like a fairy tale, but not to the story's detriment.

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Has there ever been a literary analysis of "greentext"?

There's something distinct about greentext, it's a shift in narrative style that I can't quite put my finger on. And there often seems to be a certain sarcasm behind it. It's also a lot easier to read for some reason.

Some things can't really be conveyed except through greentext, but it's not simply quoting, it's something entirely new. There's a coherent logic behind it, is it just a catch all device for any indirect speech?
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Its context sensitive, but is most often used to mimic the voice of someone quoting in a mocking voice.
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>>8623513
"Some things can't really be conveyed except through greentext" he mimicked sarcastically.
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>something entirely new
I think it's just sentence fragments and the only reason why it's acceptable is because of the setup and medium of 4chan.
I've read some great greentext stories, most of them rely on implications, like microfiction. It's similar to stream of consciousness writing isn't it? More swift.

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Has anyone read this and know if it's worth a read?
I picked it up at a used book store, but haven't had the time to get into it yet.
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Nope.
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>>8623503
Maybe I'll try /his/
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i only need to look at the cover to know it's shit

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Where do I start
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Manufacturing Consent
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>>8623455
We don't recommend leftists to anyone on here. So scoot on, kid
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>>8623463
>>>/pol/

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Can someone please explain this poem to me?

https://allpoetry.com/The-Broken-Tower
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he fuggged another dudes wife lmao
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>>8623407
Crane was homosexual, the poem talks about a heterosexual experience with one of his closest friend's wives, the wife of biographer critic Malcolm Crowley.

It's Crane's farewell to poetry and to life. It was the last new poem of his to be published.
Most of Crane's poetry is up for interpretation, it's just the way he wrote. People disagree on a lot of his poems.
Look at his longest work, The Bridge. It's an optimistic Whitmanian song of American ingenuity, an antithesis to...
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Anyone have any particular Crane lines in their head a lot?
'minstrel galleons of Carib fire' keeps coming up.

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book for music composing
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>>>/wsr/
>>>/mu/
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Ulysses
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Schoenberg's Fundamentals of Music Composition

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What does this man have against quotation marks?
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Quotations marks make you stop and spit and he has to ride on.
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pointless and clunky
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First answer, best answer. Enjoy your job copy-editing ads for j.crew, op.

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when it comes to books, I hate people describing pic related as the great american novel. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad book, it's just not great. The whole american dream/green light/daisy metaphor/message or whatever just feels empty and vapid.

The prose is incredibly basic, to the point where I feel it detracts from the book rather than illustrate Fitzgerald's brevity. The characters are extremely dull (although I can see an argument for this) and it was hardly saved by is plot which, to be quite honest, was boring with an ending that did...
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>>8623359
Wow, you're on /lit/ and criticizing The Great Gatsby?

You're such a nonbore
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>>8623359
Protip: Authors like Fitzgerald, Clemens, and Hemingway are forced on American schoolchildren because Americans have always been jealous of the great English literary tradition, and are desperate to have one of their own. Americans can't write.
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>>8623370
>does anyone on /lit/ like TGG
it's pretty clear I don't think I'm special for disliking it, I'm asking for someone who DOES like it to possibly explain why.

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Authors where math plays a very important role?

Borges, Pynchon, ???
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Abbott
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>>8623307
>Borges, Pynchon, ???
i dont know
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Does math play into Borges poetry at all?

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Can 4chan be considered a place like a city or a street would?
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>>8623289
>Can 4chan be considered a place like a city or a street would?
i dont know
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>>8623289
It's probably the closest you'll get to a non-gentrified internet community if that means anything
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>>8623300
so a ghetto shithole

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>cheapest versions of the book have movie photos on them
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Stop being poor lolmao
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>movie books
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who buys the movie tie in editions, they are usually the worst quality.

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What is the Rites of Spring of literature?
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Ulysses
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Beckett I guess
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Thus Spoke Zarathustra?

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How much of a influence drugs had on creating literature actually?
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>>8623224
This is a pretty good book about that subject. It starts off with Raymond Carver and John Cheever waiting for a liqour store in iowa to open so they can buy rotgut vodka and from there it details the links between writers and self medication.
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>>8623224
Isn't that just a bunch of Dayquil cold medicine capsules?
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>>8623430
Dayquil and Nyquil contain dextromethorphan as a primary ingredient. If you swallow enough of it, you trip balls.

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Why is it so hard to get a literary agent? I was in this game in 2005, fast forward to now there seems to be four times more agents and they are way more picky.
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You're a fucking white male.

No, seriously.
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>>8623206
>Why is it so hard to get a literary agent?
i dont know

>>8623250
you say it like privilege matters
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The internet, blogs, self-publishing have siphoned a lot of dogshit away from the major publishers. They're very happy not to receive those query letters anymore...

Just like Hollywood, publishers are looking for stuff that will sell and become a franchise...and the genres that sell like hotcakes are chick-lit/romance and children's. They don't give a shit what you look like.

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I wish to be a fucking writer, even if i'm an ESL pleb who write in his first langague only.

However i'm too conscious about my writing and feel like i'm absolute shit-tier, i gaved some of my writing shit to other people, i have an uncle who write too and actually managed to do some money in my shit tier country. They told me it's actually good but also -

>too much violence (yeah it's edgy shit)
>main character is far too much passive and depressed
>uncle...
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>>8623183
Why the fuck does it matter if you self-project yourself into the book?
As long as the miserable and depressed archetype fits in the story it will be beneficial because you will find it easy depicting a depressed cunt from your personal experience.
Any other complaints can be taken to >>>/r9k/
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I suggest you read more and then come back to writing. Growing up is a good idea too
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>>8623202

it matters for me. i can't really explain it. it just feels wrong.
Please don't send me back into that shithole. I'm trying to never go back there again.


>>8623203
but i'm reading stuff all the time.

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What are your favorite books written in the first person perspective?
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>>8623131
My diary, desu
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Blonde on Blonde (by Bob Dylan)
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>>8623138
The Black Prince

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>pay thousands for fake Amazon reviews for self published book
>still no one buying my book
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Stop crying about your shite book not selling and tell us the name of it so we can help you or crush your dreams some more
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You couldn't get a marketing firm to help for thousands instead of some random Chinese people with a few laptops?
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>>8623191
This. You need reviews AND marketing. Not one or the other alone.

I don't know much about reading, but is the taste of the people on this board basically as shitty as the taste of people on /mu/ who are just getting into music? I look at some people on that board, and some people go off and develop their own taste and their charts won't look anything like the people who are obviously new and just listen to the exact same thing everyone else is listening to. I look at the recent vote that went on on this board and I see how it's the same chart as the chart of the last 2 years, I sort of wonder of when I look into the books that...
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What does it matter what people on a mongolian drawing board read or rate books as? Read what you want to read, simple as that. Don't live your life like a retard.
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>>8623116
I just want to find good literature. It's not easy.
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>>8623108
Fuck off, anime pedo scum

>Turn your mind to, Meditations™

Jesus really?
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>I never thought I'd fall in Love in The Time of Cholera

What a fucking hack
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>Enter HAMLET
And we call this man the Bard...
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>As Maman passed, I've become The Stranger™

Camoo is a hack.


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