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Are there any literary subjects that you won't ask your family for as gifts etc?

For me, it is dinosaurs.
For some reason people just don't understand that books about dinosaurs can be for adults and can be fascinating non fiction.

I don't get it.
I asked my parents as a birthday gift for some 'dinosaur books'. I was hoping they might get me some non fiction, word heavy books discussing the Science behind dinosaurs and their history in this planet.

What did I receive?
Pic fucking related, along with about 3 other childrens...
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>>8623048
>I asked my parents as a birthday gift for some 'dinosaur books'.

back to /r9k/
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>>8623072
What is wrong with that?
Do your parents not buy you gifts you fucking cunt?
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>>8623110
I only got money from my family for the last decade or so. I don't even need the money since I have a pretty nice salary nowadays. I would really enjoy a simple well thought out gift.

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ITT: Favorite DFW quotes

>When you acknowledge that there is nothing repulsive or unforgivable or shameful about yourself, it becomes easier to be that authentic person and feel like you’re living a less performed life.
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>>8623036
That's John Green, though.

Sorry to ruin your epic meme thread
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>She is peeling spliffs like peeling back foreskin. It's a hot-box in the way that a microwave is a hot box and I'm choking to death on a rooty-tooty-patootie ass-cloud of weed dust like crusting butt must. she turns to me, the folds in her pants churning like a thousand dick exposés, my eyes rolling back and way back chutes-with-ladders-esque down my throat and into my ass.
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>The interesting thing is why we're so desperate for this anesthetic against loneliness.

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Post the last poem you wrote.
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not a poem but this is a sentence from a letter I wrote to a friend:

My table is a wooden balcony rising from a hill above a field. Pick a point on the lawn. Stare and see the butterflies flit above the grass. Micro Mirages. Shimmering cuts on the eye. Glass on the air.
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Pareces de marmol vivo
De ese que respira
De ese que exige olvido

Mis palabras se resfalan
Pretenden hacerte el amor
Tu piel se desentiende

Solas
Espiral de frustración

Tus ideas me son ajenas
Ignoro tu risa interior
Conocer?
Saber?
Tocar?
Probar?

Ver, pero solo una impresión
Y olvídate, corola sin flor

A una voz en caida libre
Solo piedra le hara frente
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Perderse en el jardín de tus manos
Es despertarse sincero sobre nubes de cielo sin penumbra
Oír el divino canto de otro segundo que descubramos
Sentir la tormenta que tu aroma vislumbra

Deseo contigo, amante empedernida, capturar éste momento
Plasmarlo en la obra maestra de tus labios de brisa
Inmutado, para siempre en mis sueños pretendo
Guardar el sol de tus ojos y la tonada que escapa de tu sonrisa

Encontrar en tu cuerpo la cura a mi delirio
El viaje de mi tacto en los reinos de tu piel
Trae celosamente el elixir de mi alma fiel
Aniquila...
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Would JK Rowling or Stephen King or a big name genre author winning the Nobel Prize be less controversial and more accepted than Bob Dylan winning?
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>>8623019
Since the problem with Dylan is really that he doesn't produce literature and won it, I'll go with no.
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>>8623027
but /lit/ would erupt into more of a shitstorm if either of those two won instead of what we actually got.
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Depends on the writer. Le Guin or Wolfe probably wouldn't draw the same ire. King or Rowling definitely would.

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Hey, /lit/. I have a weird request. I've been reading this sci-fi novel that has an incredibly minor side-plot about the characters in their early twenties having an affair in a sweet and awkward way. You see, I haven't been in love or even had a crush in a long time and it's like that part of the book let me once again experience those feelings of my youth. I'd really like to read something like that. As far as I know most of "serious" romance literature explored deeper themes about love and attraction than I think I want. Any of you guys know...
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>>8622911
Stranger in a Strange Land?

I mean it's sweet and awkward up until the murder.
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>>8622911
you're talking about how you're not in touch with your emotions lmao
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>>8622913
I don't thing sweet and awkward is required. I guess I just want descriptions of people falling in love that are good enough to make me, an old neckbeard, wistfully look back at the time when I used to have that. It doesn't have to be sci-fi. It's just that on the top of /lit/'s suggested romance novels is Love in the Time of Cholera and I'm pretty sure it's about things way more heavy that I'm talking about.

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What's your personal favorite non-fiction, /lit/?
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>>8622891
THE MOTHERFUCKING BIBLE HAHA YOU FEDORA SHIT, YOU'LL BURN IN HELL
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Hey, thanks for the pitch for the thread. Some initial thoughts: It's okay, but at the moment way too general. We find that the most commenting activity happens on threads that have a particular angle or 'hook', ones which invite comments on a more specific topic. However we'd be happy to take a look at a revised version of your thread!

Best wishes,
/Lit/ Editorial Staff
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The Journalist and the Murderer, by Janet Malcolm

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Post cringey promps from leddit

Prompt:

You're driving a long, dark stretch of highway, when Death appears in the passenger seat, informing you that you are about to die. The car then spins out of control, flipping, and you black out. You wake up, hours later, in a deserted field. Death is laying lifeless on the side of the highway.

Response:

"WHO FUCKS THE DEATH NOW?" you scream at the top of your lungs. As the universe seems to all align to your whim, a Mustang appears with "If I Had A Trail" by qotsa blaring on its radio....
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From the same thread (this is the top voted comment, mind you)

"You search through death's cloak and find a small card with print around the edges too small to read. You can barely make out the words. They say something about taking the sickle and putting on death's cloak. As you go to pull the cloak off of him it's mysteriously empty with no body inside. You drape the cloak around yourself and pick up the sickle, agreeing to a contract you couldn't read and becoming the bringer of death...
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>>8622873
We already have several 'omg these people are so dumb, let's jerk each other off to make ourselves feel better'-threads.

Why don't you create a thread about some good writing prompts?
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>>8622876
Wow a very original idea

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I'm starting to think plebs putting down books because of "unlikable characters" is due to series fiction. Characters need to be "likable" in order to sustain people reading book after book of the same shit, so when they get to fiction that actually doesn't exist to pander to them so they may be milked for cash over multiple books, they get confused. And they flock to series fiction since from watching TV shows they're used to that as a format. Am I on the right track here?
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>>8622807
Wow what a deep analysis. You most definitely is not a 'pleb'.
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>>8622810
I'm starting to think this may be sarcastic.
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>>8622816
You're a shallow thinker. Stop thinking you're better than anyone.

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Is Smollett the best 18th century writer?
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>>8622762
18th century literature was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.
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>>8622776
i know i shouldn't keep being surprised this board is pleb as fuck yet it keeps happening
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>>8622786
it was though
france ruined it with bs rules they made up

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Went looking through the archive, catalog, and the Wiki that had herpes level of ads.

Can anybody recommend me some hard-boiled detective novels? I'm looking for a page turner, maybe a first person perspective, with plenty of fights, smoking, drinking, swearing, the works. Can you help me?
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Wrong sort of board for that kind of literature. It's all artsy fartsy here.
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>>8622740
Oh. Do you know which board would help me with that? I figured this would be the place to go.
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>>8622748
I wouldn't know though I don't think there is one on 4chan. This is the only book one and they try to a highbrow literature board.

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Writing my masterpiece here /lit/, and I have a quick query. If you're painstakingly going through documents to find out about something, do you 'pour' through them or 'pore' through them?
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>>8622685
It's pore but to annoy the diamond dozen I'll throw paw into the ring as well.
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For all intensive purposes, i prefer "ooze"
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I hate to play double's advocate, but Beyonce had one of the best homophones of all time. Of all time.

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Just finished The Brothers Karamazov as my 5th Dostoevsky book. How much time does it take until the christianity effect wears off?
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>>8622678
That cat is DISGUSTED
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It wears off as soon as you find yourself in a line at Walmart.
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>>8622678
I want to read Brothers K, but I've never read another dostoevsky book. Should I read Brothers K first?

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Ive been looking online and I cant seem to find either an ebook or pdf of her poetry. Does anyone by any chance has one?

She reminds me a lot of tsvetaeva and akhmatova.
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>>8622677
only thing I found on soulseek was some .avi
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Seems to not be out there.
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Bump. Just in case.. what are the odds..

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Are there any other good editions of the 1818 version of Frankenstein than the Oxford World's Classics one? The cover is horrible and I'd rather get any other version but I haven't found one (for example every Penguin edition of it is the 1831 version)
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>>8622659
i like the cover
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>>8622659
Daily reminder to always remind people that this book was not written by a woman but by her husband.

We must fight the SJW hordes. We must never relinquish the power of the white male author.

Deus vult
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>>8622659
You'll have to go in big and get the latest (2nd ed.)Norton Critical Edition.

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Any good books on crippling social anxiety, /lit/?
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>>8622588
your diary
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Zettel's Traum
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>>8622588
'Man Up, Pathetic Faggot' by Fyodor U. Bermensch

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How do I get a novel published and reach a broad audience? I read that I would need a literary agent, and I actually prefer that to obscurely publishing online. How do I go about it? My understanding is that the agent only gets money if I get a book deal, and that sounds too good to be true. When I do go to an agent, would one chapter be enough to get the ball rolling, or should my novel be complete?
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>>8622539
Write a decent book first.
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>>8622539
Pander to women and/or minorities. Seriously.
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>>8622548
Then do what?

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Please give me advices in order to read Pynchon and DFW.

I have read already Lot 49, and I wouldn't like to starting with IJ (I have not read anything by the big DFW). Actually I don't like doorstopers so GR would be nice to avoid by now.

Would be nice to know other authors, specially from Europe.

Also postmodernist thread.
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How is it pronounced? Bartle-may? Barth-helm? What makes a pronunciation the 'correct' one? Does writing precede speech? Do I wish I was on an American liberal arts campus in the heady days of the 80s?
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brief interviews with hideous men

v.

>Actually I don't like doorstopers

well you're in the wrong part of the library buddy
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>>8622473
N here

Help me out /lit/. It says in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy that "Many philosophers in what came to be known as the Ordinary Language movement were inspired by this achievement to argue that classic philosophical problems (e.g., of free will, the relation of mind to body, truth, the nature of knowledge, and of right and wrong) likewise rested on a misunderstanding of the language in which these problem are couched." How is the question about free will realated to misuse of language? Can anyone help, please?
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>>8622467
It's about the question if "Do we have free will?" actually is a sensible question, or if we aren't mistakenly putting the name "free will" on a concept that doesn't exist in the way we think about "free will", something that can neither be negated nor confirmed, because it either a.) doesn't have any conditions under which it could be considered to be false or right or b.) it simply denotes reflectively "the thing we mean when we talk about choosing freely",...
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Does a child know of the concept 'free will' without the concept of language?
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Language games are nonsense. Wiggy and his ilk are not philosophers.

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Sup lit embryo here

Where should I start with phil texts? Is Aristotle a good place?
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>>8622465
>Swipe right if you need a hero
Holy kek

And I guess you can start with Nicomachean Ethics?
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Plato's Socratic dialogs.
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>>8622477
Holy kek lol XDd le epic rodger!!

>>8622465
You don't read Aristotle until you've read Plato. And before Plato, read Parminedes and Heraclitus

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> As a 99% can you make an educated guess?
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The stock market
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If you have enough free time to post on 4chan you're the 1%.
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You DO have a bookstagram, dont you /lit/?
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>>8622360
what exactly is a bookstagram?
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why are indian women so ugly and kind of giving this uncomfortable vibe?
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>>8622365
YouTube reviewers who shove "book" in any social media name

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GOD tier:

Wind-up Bird Chronicle, Norwegian Wood, Kafka On The Shore

Amazing Tier:

A wild sheep chase, Dance Dance Dance,

Good Tier:

1Q84, Short stories


It's probably a shame he spent his time on this:

Underground
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>>8622359
Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World should be GOD tier.
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>>8622359
Colourless should be in Amazing or God tier. Probably one of his more digestable books.
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Very good tier: Wind Up Bird

Good tier: Hard-boiled

Ok tier: Norwegian, Kafka

Shit tier: 1Q84, Sheep, everything else I assume

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How do you increase reading speed? I know reading more and more must help, but are there specific exercises or things you can do to read faster while maintaining comprehension?
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just try and scan the page faster going line to line. find out what speed you're comfortable with and if you maintain comprehension

another method would be to scan the page by picking out important words i.e. skimming but if you're reading fiction this is pointless
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>>8622317
Some shit I use when reading novels online but too lazy to scroll or move my eyes

http://spreeder.com/
http://spritzinc.com/
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>>8622317
Bumpity bump.
I also believe that all art should be appreciated at extreme velocity. I watched the entire criterion collection last weekend in 4 hrs due to fast forwarding.I got a sixer of suger free redbull and some sudafed, Ready to begin with the greeks and be rippin through infinite jest by the time the steelers kick off tomorrow.

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I've been doing philosophy research and Descartes keeps coming up and I need a new book anyways. I don't have any background in philosophy books or old books in general so what would be his most accessible work?
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read his meditations, here's a link: http://earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/descartes1641.pdf

don't have to read it all, just the first three or so.
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>>8622226
Just do this >>8622233
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read the discours de la methode. Its basically the meditations for uneducated people

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What are some really intellectually stimulating books? Of course, all good books are like this, but I'm looking for something that has more focus on ideas, concepts and analysis of the human condition rather than plot/characters. For example, I liked Ficciones by Borges.
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>>8622138
God's Debris
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My diary desu
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>>8622138
Try cortazar and calvino if you like ficciones.

I have that same edition op...ficciones is in my top 3

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Is there a literary equivalent of The Simpsons? You know, something that was once pretty good but has become a zombie series that will just never die?

I want to read a series like this in reverse.
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>>8622111
Wheel of time, cept it's not funny
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The Holy Bible.

(laugh track)
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When I read White Noise it reminded me of Simpsons in its prime

Did Delillo get worse over time?

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Can we just have a thread for us to share our favourite passages? Could be fiction and no-fiction, could be something you're reading right now or something you've read a long time ago.

Let's make them bigger than a tweet but fitting of a single post (just use common sense).
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>Alpinism is the art of climbing mountains by confronting the greatest dangers with the greatest prudence. Art is used here to mean the accomplishment of knowledge in action.
>You cannot always stay on the summits. You have to come down again...
>So what’s the point? Only this: what is above knows what is below, what is below does not know what is above. While climbing, take note of all the difficulties along your path. During the descent, you will no longer see them, but you will know...
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A few light taps upon the pane made him turn to the window. It had begun to snow again. He watched sleepily the flakes, silver and dark, falling obliquely against the lamplight. The time had come for him to set out on his journey westward. Yes, the newspapers were right: snow was general all over Ireland. It was falling on every part of the dark central plain, on the treeless hills, on the Bog of Allen and, farther westward, softly falling into the dark mutinous Shannon waves. It was falling, too, upon every part of the lonely churchyard on the hill where Michael Furey lay buried....
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Maybe it's not metaphysics. Maybe it's existential. I'm talking about the individual US citizen's deep fear, the same basic fear that you and I have and that everybody has except nobody ever talks about it except existentialists in convoluted French prose. Or Pascal. Our smallness, our insignificance and mortality, yours and mine, the thing that we all spend all our time not thinking about directly, that we are tiny and at the mercy of large forces and that time is always passing and that every day we've lost one more day that will never come back and...
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My dad called me and said he want to buy her a book and asked me to pick one. What the fuck can my grandmother read? I know she likes to read a lot but I have no idea what is she into.
Recommend a novel /lit/.
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Fight Club
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The 120 Days of Sodom
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>>8621958
>>8621972
Come on niggers be serious about this shit

It's kind of incredible that william s burroughs lived to be 83 when he did so much drugs.
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cool
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genesis is such a qt

i kinda wonder if they had sex at some point
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>>8621893
Maybe. Idk if genesis was into boypussy but burroughs was.

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I'm fairly new to reading and i'm looking for easier to digest potentially life-changing books that are /lit/ worthy.
I've looked through the first few of the books in the top 100 here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_6-b92dCuQKzH4Va2mKI3fy22Du0l3PxkybyPLqEX88/edit#gid=837279928
but they seem hard to digest.

Any recommendations? Thank you!
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>>8621856
Start with middle school or high school level books and work your way up.
Some books to start with that I read in high school or middle school;
Catcher in the Rye
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
To Kill a Mockingbird
Shakespeare
Hemingway
Dostoevsky (best read in chronological order)
Melville
Brave New World
1984 + Animal Farm
The Great Gatsby
Heart of Darkness
Lord of the Flies
Steinbeck
Cormac Mccarthy (Blood Meridian was in college)
The Jungle
Many read Rand at this...
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>>8621871
I was looking into starting with Dostoyevsky. Should I start with Crime and Punishment? Does it really matter which translation I choose? I found one from R. Pevear's translation.
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>>8621877
Notes From Underground (it's short and sweet) then Crime and Punishment is the best to start with Dosto, although most students only read Crime and Punishment so it's no great loss if you skip Notes for a while. I don't know about translations because I usually read the one that's in the library.


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