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Do you guys write? If so, is there a specific place/conditions you like to do it? Do you need silence/to be all alone, to be inspired? I'm not a writer but I am in the situation of writing something, and I've had previous experiences of people reading my stuff (basically bad poetry). It was definitely no fun, because I try to write as honestly as possible and I think if I start to think what other people will think about me I won't be as true as I want. It is not as I never want anyone to read my stuff but definitely not as a sketch coz they'll call me a...
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Depends on what I'm writing. If it's academic such as an essay or paper then I'll most likely go to the library.

If it's creative fiction/prose anywhere alone, or without people that will talk too much to me or distract me. Library, cafe, bedroom, study.

With poetry I like to be outside or alone at night.
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>>8609665
I prefer total isolation and to create my own distractions when I write. The trouble is that I am a horrendously SLOW writer...so I need a location with time on my side. Time I can kill slowly.

Admittedly, I need to write more.

What do you think of the works of Kafka
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2deep4u pleb bullshit
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>>8609722
kys
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>>8609722
how the fuck is kafka 2deep4u

literally easy to understand

Is it a thing?
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Beowulf, the Faerie Queene, the Odyssey.
Fantasy poetry is patrician af
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>>8609564
I meant more modern stuff (Metamorphoses is my favorite)
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>>8609570
Good taste, Ovid is the shit. Hmm would something like Maldoror count?

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>reading books instead of writing them
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>reading a book.
>ugh this is awful
>it reads like it was written by someone who doesn't read.
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>>8609499
This
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Classics you've never read.

I'll get around to it some day.
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>>8609497
>>8609687
If you've already read Ulysses and Infinite Jest you have intellectually outgrown these trash high school "books".
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>>8609497
As long as you understand amd recognize when people reference it, you're not missing much.

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Is infinite jest actually good? I've asked a couple people I know in real life if they would recommend it and they all have said yes to some degree — but after poking a bit more I learn that they've either not finished it or haven't even read it.

What the fuck is this? Is this a meme book? I'm currently waiting for the copy in my library to be available but each day my interest wanes.
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>>8609475
I went with my gut feeling and just bought it without consulting anybody. It's a really enjoyable read
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>>8609475
It's a meme. The man is dead so it becomes better, this is true in any art form.
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>>8609556

No it isn't Jackson Pollocks' work always sucked balls and still does

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>>>/x/18214257

>Here's how to play.
>Roll by posting.
>Take the number of your post and paste it into an image search engine.
>You'll be writing about an image you find there.

>Easy: Choose any image from the first loaded page of your search
>Medium: Choose any image from the first loaded row of your...
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wow cool thread hahah
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>>8610729

Thanks for the BUMP friendo
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Rofl lets do it

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I happen to be stuck doing the worst English assignment in the history of existence. I have a theme statement and I have to find a fuck ton of different poems and stories that share that theme and then write about them.

I have the poems down pat and completed but I cannot for the life of me FIND short stories at all. Let alone find ones that match the theme I have to use.

This is a plea for help.

If its at all helpful, the theme I have to use is "The living of life is a form of art"

Suggestions on short stories or at least a way to search...
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http://www.bartleby.com/85/
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What are the poems?
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>>8609415
borges you nigger

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Is it worth getting an agent and publisher these days or should I just self publish my beautiful masterpieces? Most of them I've come to find are like pic related.
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Do whatever man.

I don't think self-published stuff are eligible for awards n shit though.
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>>8609380
Get an agent. Pic very much related w/r/t the consequences of not having one.
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>>8609394
I kind of like that cover 2bh

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I fucking hate the word "holistic".
Something about it's connotation of pretentious middle-management just make me want to rant about it on the internet
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I hate the word "lighted"

Fuck that goddamn word
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>>8609347

>Per se
>Rustic
>Tendies
>Sophisticated
>People making quotation marks in the air with their fingers

It all FUCKING TRIGGERS ME REEEEEEEEE
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Cyclopean

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Did this nerd get anything right?

>muh intelligent design
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Nope.
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>>8609328
No. He didn't.
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his Qinquiae Viae are among the profoundest and elegant arguments made in the history of philosophy

this is in no way immediately apparent without further study (as is true for many significant philosophers)

3/10 for making me reply

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Heading to Barnes and Noble tomorrow. Going to pick up the Mistborn trilogy. Any other books you would recommend? I tend to like fantasy and tactical espionage type stories. I am definitely open to non fiction as well!
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Tom clancy?
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>>8609289
If you're going to read fantasy you may as well pick up anything by Edgar Rice Burroughs, Dunsany or Tolkien
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Barnes and Noble's Don Quixote is the best Don Quixote edition, but not a lot of people know that. It comes with Doré's illustrations.

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There is another thread on this but I feel many persons have missed key information provided by the OP in answering his question.

There are many readers on this board who very much 'read" in that they do enjoy technical or non-fiction books, be it on politics, philosophy, economics, history and so on (I myself thoroughly enjoy reading philosophy).

However, we cannot find much fun in reading fiction, so, how do we start down that road?

Personally, I don't feel as stimulated when reading fiction as I do, say, philosophy, is there anyway for...
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>>8609283
>Are there any fiction books you can suggest with deeply philosophical themes?

All of them. You just have to look and think.
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>>8609283

You realize that shit like Moby Dick, The Brothers Karamazov and most other classics -- which deals extensively with typically philosophy and religion -- are fiction, right?
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>>8609283
Yeah, >>8610240 is right about how many books are fiction. Were you referring to a certain subgenre of fiction?

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Why subscribe to any philosophy when all of it is ultimately flawed?

Right now my favorite philosopher is Averroes and I cringe at my Nietzsche phase. This time next year I'll probably move onto another. Why not drift through life with a casual indifference?
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>Human reason, in one sphere of its cognition, is called upon to consider questions, which it cannot decline, as they are presented by its own nature, but which it cannot answer, as they transcend every faculty of the mind

>which it cannot decline

For me the joy of reading philosophy is to ask myself questions of things so epistemological fundamental that any world view would be frighteningly incomplete without addressing those questions.

Of course, one never fully answers those questions (most...
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>>8609294
Same guy

>Why not drift through life with a casual indifference?
If you're the kind of person who enjoys philosophy, I would advise you not do this since you don't want to do this.
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>>8609277
>>8609294
You guys should take the redpill. It anchors your philosophy and weltanschauung in facts, logic, and reason.

We're always looking for new members on the redpilled boards (you know where to find us)

ITT: Books that actually changed/had a significant effect on your life
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>>8609210
You'll trigger the frogposters and neo nazis
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>>8609214
>Implying right-wing children have the attention span to read
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>>8609214
To be fair, it is an incredibly biased pop history book.

Opinions?
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american classic
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top comfy
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>>8609090
ELLIOT WROTE AN ESSAY ON IT, IF YOU'VE JUST FINISHED THE BOOK. CHECK IT OUT VIA GOOGLE.

GOOD NIGHT

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is it posible to learn to enjoy literary fiction when you don't give a fuck about other people?
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Yes.
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>>8609071

after falling into the nihilist pit I've encountered a similar difficulty about liking great art in conventional ways ever again.

What I'm settling on is to pass the time as pleasantly as possible, a slightly modified version of existing logic.
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breaking news: you do give a fuck about other people and you're a human as well

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is absurdism the logical conclusion to philosophy
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Yes, although probably nothing can be understood, we should try our damnedest with what we got.
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That's an odd way to spell vagina.
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>>8609008
holy..................................

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after immersing myself in "avant-garde" and experimental music, it made me realize that I haven't explored that category at all in literature

can i get some recs for babby's first experimental literature? bonus points if it's like trout mask replica in any way
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>>8608996
Beckett
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Naked Lunch is babbys first.
Have fun. Remember, just enjoy the ride, don't worry about making sense of things.
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>>8608996
Goethe's Paradise Lost

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"i think of socrates as counter-culture. i like to think of myself as counter-culture as well, so that's why i feel sort of a connection to him :)"

its already too late to drop my entry level philosophy class, should i just stop showing up?
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>>8608979
Maybe you should try to stop being a little bitch-boy.
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Make meme assignments designed to trigger the autists and edgelords in the class.
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>>8608979
you have no idea if they're a gnostic or not, it might not be totally cringey

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Fuck, I just can't do it. I've never been beaten before, but god damnit, this madman fucking beat me.

I read the meme trilogy, I loved the meme trilogy. But this, this is shit. Kill this meme. Kill it dead.
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It's only written for Northamptonians, it won't make sense for anyone else.
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Which street did you stop at?
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Is the meme trilogy Infinite Jest, Ulysses, and Gravity's Rainbow?

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Just spent 35$ on pic related
What am I in for?
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AIDS
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my diary desu
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Did you read the primer material?

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>you will never read gargantua and pantegruel in its original context, getting all the references, and tasting all those dank memes straight from the spigot

WHY EVEN BE A WOMAN GIVING BIRTH IN THIS YEAR OF OUR [any religious representative/non-representative]
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>>8608796
Hey, I was just about to start reading this, cause I vaguely remember someone on here saying it would help me understand some references in Tristram Shandy. Am I just going to get more confused reading Gargantua and Pentagruel?
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>>8608796
I can't give any clarification regarding Tristram Shandy or its understanding, but reading Rabelais has its own rewards. Mainly dicking, drinking, and shit-eating but also veering into the pleasures of reading long legal citations.
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>>8608796
Weeeeell, by reading Erasmus, Plato, Agrippa, some Petronius and Boccacio, Folengo, old french farces, Villon, the Epistolae Obscurorum Virorum, Lucian and the True History, and knowing some Latin and Greek, you can get close enough.

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To all the newfags on /lit/:
I became an avid reader like three months ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching tv and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.

Here's how I did it.

-Remember the average person reads like zero books a year. If you read 5 pages a day, you are 5 pages above the average person

-Don't force yourself to read. Commit to read 5 pages a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like reading more and after a month or so you should be reading 50-100 pages a day for pleasure

-Read various books at...
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>>8608761
damb animeposter
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I became an avid reader like three months ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching tv and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.

Here's how I did it.

-Remember the average person reads like zero books a year. If you read 5 pages a day, you are 5 pages above the average person

-Don't force yourself to read. Commit to read 5 pages a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like reading more and after a month or so you should be reading 50-100 pages a day for pleasure

-Read various books at the same time. When I grab a difficult...
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>>8608763
Didn't you complain on /r9k/ that your father didn't fuck you when you were young? lol

Somehow, the majority of this board has a massive hard on for Richard Yates and his insufferable novel Revolutionary Road, yet Patricia Highsmith is dismissed as a meme writer.
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I dont get the hype over savage detectives
100 pages in
It has gave me boners tho
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Highsmith isn't a meme writer. She's my waifu.
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>>8608716
>the majority of this board has a massive hard on for Richard Yates and his insufferable novel Revolutionary Road
No.

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What are the best books about fear? Like, the primal, reason-destroying kind.

Doesn't necessarily have to be horror. Just the best you've read.
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>>8608641
Kingdom of Fear
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Kafka
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>>8608641
My diary desu

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Can we discuss this man's ideas? What are the implications of his philosophy on metaphysics and science? Why do you all hate him so much? Is the existence of a-posteriori necessities not an important conceptual breakthrough in philosophy?
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>>8608591
What do you want to discuss? His model theory for modal logic is a technical landmark and has basically secured his last name a place in textbooks for centuries to come.

His phil. language is pretty scientistic and not all that great IMO.
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All I know is that he blew materialists out, and that's good enough for me
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Because ANAL=AUTISTIC philosophy is dumb

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Should I get this? apparently some of lovecraft's stories are utter dross, I only want the good ones

ISBN10 0575081562
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pls
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He was pretty patchy, whatever volume you get will give you some slightly shitty stories along with the good, just get one.
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I have that sitting next to me right now Senpai. It's good. Though it is missing shit like nyarlathotep. Book feels nice and comfy. Smells great too. I would say yes.

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What does /lit/ think?
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>>8608568
What do you think?
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT DO YOU WE THINK GUYS
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Meursault is my fav character for sure because my fav thing in books is mundane events, and his book is full to the brim of it. Every chapter is like one of those novelty pet rocks, you open the book & POP you get a face fulla boredom and you fall back asleep. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! and then you think hmmm whats he gonna do next, this great mind, and you pick the book back up and BLAM you get a shot to the face and Hahahahahah you've been shot again by old Meursault, that card. "Woops, I was looking at the sun!" he says, half-conscious....
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Is there any non-modern literature that depicts Excalibur pre-Arthur? Like anything about its history or why it was made, other than to give Arthur an unstoppable super weapon?
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>>8608555
"Pre-Arthur"? Excalibur/Caliburn/ Caledfwlch is part of the Arthur legends, right from the Mabinogion and Geoffrey of Monmouth (who says the sword was forged in Avalon and Latinises Caledfwlch as Caliburnus). It doesn't have any extant origin story beyond that, certainly nothing predating Arthur mentions.
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>>8608788
Sorry, I'm dense. You meant "backstory to Excalibur before it was given to Arthur, as described within Arthurian legends." That should have been obvious first off. This page reasonably summarizes all the primary-source discussions of the sword and its growing role in Arthur's kingship legend, but it doesn't have much more of a story than that until modern authors.
https://www.timelessmyths.com/arthurian/excalibur.html
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Is there any analysis or literature that explains OP pre-trips? Like anything about the history of trips or why they were made, other than to give OP an unstoppable sequence of digits?


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