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Opinions on the Dark Tower series? They're my favorite

Yes we know King is for plebs etc etc
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>>>/sffg/
>>>/r/eddit
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>>8606748
just finished the first book. boy, it was rough. i liked the ending but the entire book just felt thrown together on a whim. there's little worldbuilding and the characters are pretty bland. it certainly has potential i guess but ive only read the first book so maybe the others are better.
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What was the point of the jawbone?

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Is Zizek's dislike of Buddhism rooted in narcissism of small differences?
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>>8606606
Essentially yes. He's a very butthurt individual
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>>8606606
>narcissism of small differences
I can't imagine a Yugoslav being prone to such things...
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bolshe zizek

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Post your favourite quotes from literature. Here's one from William Gass' The Tunnel:

>Wild eyes were another sign. It is something I have seldom seen — the expression of an ecstatic state — though much is foolishly written of them, as if they grew like Jerusalem artichokes along the road. The eyes are black, right enough, whatever their normal color is; they are black because their perception is condensed to a coal, because the touch and taste and perfume of the lover, the outcry of a dirty word, a welcome river, have been reduced...
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>>8606576
woah
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>>8606576
I've read that out loud and it sounds absolutely great. Good passage anon.
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>>8606576
>The stars are real. The future is that mountain.

what are some essential, beautiful works in japanese lit? Im going to Japan for a week and want something to read. I have pic related already and wanted something else comfy to read.
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>>8606541
>japanese
>lit

Yeah nah. Mishima is an extrapolation of European cultural export and Murakami, of American cultural export

The only Asian lit worth it is Persian or Indian, some Chinese classics too.
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>>8606541
Silence by Shusaku Endo of course.
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>>8606566
That's a great one.

Also get a collection of Ryūnosuke Akutagawa stories/novelettes.

If you read a lot fast, try Eiji Yoshikawa's Taiko or Musashi.

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What is the 'I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream' of literature?
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Ur mom
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>>8606536
It's Kind Of A Funny Story by Ned Vizzini
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>>8606536
>when you think you're on /b/ or /s4s/

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Have you read this? Is it Dianetics tier psychological fiction or genuine insight into the psychedelic experience?
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>>8606533
The only way to genuinely gain insights into the psychedelic experiences is to do psychedelics.
LSD, shrooms, mescaline as a start and then go from there.
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>>8607110
True, but before you do this you should get some information to avoid stupid mistakes (like taking LSD at noisy place with terrible ppl). Just read in forums, experience reports on erowid, and stuff like this
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>>8607416
do you think it may be bad idea to take psychedelic in philharmony at bruckner symphony?
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/lit/ I got the idea in my head that I want to try writing fantasy. Then it occured to me that I don't think I've read a fantasy novel in half a decade.

Please recommend me some must-reads from the genre, whether it's high fantasy shit with dragons and wizards or low fantasy shit with knights battling each other in """"not""""" Earth. Even shit you think is braindead obvious like Tolkiens shit because I really haven't read much good fantasy at all.
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There's a thread dedicated to fantasy
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Well yesterday we had the guy who disliked erotica but wanted to write in the genre, and today we have the guy who wants to write fantasy but hasn't read a fantasy novel in ages!

Do you mongrels think Cervantes wrote Don Quijote without having completely immersed himself in chivalry novels?
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>>8606558
who's don coyote

What are some works that attempt to justify altruism, empathy and love on a logical, philosophical basis?
Something that'll BTFO Ayn Rand and Stirner for example.
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This guy.
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>>8606493
Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Hume, Kant
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>>8606493

Here's the real question:

WHY do you want to justify altruism, empathy and love?

If they are not self-evidently justified, you had better start asking some hard questions.

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Would you ever praise a poet that uses emojis in their writing?
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>>8606461
>Would you ever praise a poet that uses emojis in their writing?
Would you eat your cereal if it had forty dicks in it?
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I plan to as soon as emojis are enabled here
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>>8606461
>>8606468
Have either of you ever read John Green?

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Dovstoevsky is a retard
Prove me wrong
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>>8606436
Your thread is shit
Prove me wrong
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>>8606437
Of course its shit,no one has even tried to contest my statement
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>>8606436
>believes in god
checks out desu fampai

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who is the scaruffi of literature?
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>>8606425
Scaruffi
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Bloom
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>>8606425
scaruffi thinks ummagumma is better than dark side of the moon.

Are there any adaptations (stage, film, audio, whatever) that portray the king's ghost as wicked and cunning, though subtly?

Throughout the play, Hamlet has second guessings on the ghost being malign. Yes, the king is vengeful, but considering the outcome of the play (i.e. everyone dies), I've got doubts that the king's ghost is altogether unwicked (not a word, but really, who cares).

Whether or not my interpretation of the spirit's motives are accute, I'd still like to know if any adaptations that portray the king as wicked exist....
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Shameful self-bump.
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>>8606475
Another self bump just in case this 404s or archives before I get an answer.
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>>8606410

I don't have an answer to your question OP, but there was an interesting talk show episode that had Orson Welles and a bunch of other great actors on discussing Hamlet, and Orson was of the opinion that the ghost is definitely the hardest role to play in Hamlet, as any subtleties in the performance resonate throughout the play, changing the entire tone of the events that take place.

I can't give you an example of a performance that played with this, but if you were to watch that Orson Welles discussion...
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At least two of them go to Dostoevsky and Tolstoy, so who are the two remaining places for?
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>Tolstoy

lol

mix and match to taste:
Dante, Shakespeare, Homer, Dostoevsky, Joyce, Melville

prob Dante, Shakespeare, Homer, Joyce
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>>8606376
mhm
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Homer, Ovid, Dante and Shakespeare

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How do you identify logical thinking from sophistry in the Absence of Objective Truth?

This might sound stupid but it has been bothering me for a while.
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>>8606372
>anti-realism

kys
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>>8606377

Elaborate
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>>8606372
Spoiler: there is no distinction. Sophistry is logical thinking. You just got spooked by Plato.

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What are some good books that feels like this image?
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Reddit and shooting yourself in the fucking head
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All absurdism desu.
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shitty boring irony? try anything by chuck p.

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I need to read a book about war for an essay but I'm busy reading another book. What are some short books about war?
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Yoyur dikc
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There was a nice book by an Austrian painter from the 1920s about war, it gets a bit political though.
I think it was called "My Struggle" or something like that.
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Remarque and Hemingway are the obvious short ones

But do Junger's Storm and Steel, and focus on the ambiguity of his feelings about war, the exhilaration and "bringing out the best in a man" or being the realest test of moral mettle and spirit

Be sure to get an early version and figure out which English translations use which editions, because it was progressively softened in subsequent editions

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I want you to be brutally honest if this sounds interesting or not? Yes there is some self-insertion but not too much I promise. =)

>average kind of socially awkward kid goes to college
>realizes no way he can pay absurd amount to graduate
>meets a reserved on the outside but brazen in the inside girl with same problem
>they become really good friends but relationship doesn’t grow into something more
>together they...
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You sound like a virgin
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>cool guy with spiky hair gets motorcycle
>roughs up some nerds
>all the chicks dig him
>wants new sunglasses
>conflict arises
>sunglasses are purchased and conflict is resolved
>epilogue about pizza and video games

Is this good or is it great?
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there's specific threads for this buddy

Where do you go for discussion after finishing a book? Right now I do /lit/ (archive) and Goodreads, but I wish there was more to that.
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>>8606263
I'm actually part of an elite bohemian group of literary types based in New York. We're all struggling artists, some painters, some directors, some writers, some poets. We spend our time doing drugs and having deep discussions about various artistic pursuits, but mostly about literature and philosophy, because we are all incredibly well read.
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>>8606270
Are your initials CC by any chance?
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>>8606270
i want to believe this is real. even if this post is satire this would be neat

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What books simulate the feeling of have a gf?
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Wittingstein's Mistress will make you fall in love.
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The Tunnel by Ernesto Sabato
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>>8606225

dark tower series.

Long and drawn out and in the end once it's all over you feel disappointed and you feel like you wasted a lot of your life over nothing spectacular.

Which author do you most identify with, /lit/?

Shelley for me: the terribly self-absorbed idealistic romantic crushed by life.
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>implying I can identify with someone motivate and talented enough to write literature
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For me, it's Salinger - intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor.
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>babbys first romantic

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Why is it that sadness and melancholy are so artistically compelling?

When I was younger, I always found it difficult to understand why tragedies were so often held in higher esteem than works which dealt with the more positive end of the emotional spectrum. Even so, I've found myself drawn to exploring tragedy and disaster and grief in my own writing recently, but I still don't understand why these things engage me and society in general so much.

Thoughts? Your own experiences?
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>>8606198
tragedy is a lot more interesting to read and talk about
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>>8606198
Because life is tragic, and in the highest forms of art we crave life. Melancholy is the permanent state of human existence, whereas happiness or contentment are passing humours.
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>>8606256
what a pretentious faggot

who was in the wrong here?
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Foucault was basically giving a Foucault 101 lecture on the relativity of worldviews and value systems, discursive construction, etc., with his implicit moral stance that all discourses threaten to become tyrannical.

Chomsky was basically giving a Chomsky 101 lecture on how we should preserve real positive civilisational values like justice and moderation through critiquing stuff.

Chomsky was being Anglo, Foucault was being French. Neither was really talking to the other.
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>>8606166
They're basically having two entirely different discussions, but chomsky is basic and repetitive.
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>>8606166
>Neither was really talking to the other
This. It was fucking pathetic to watch

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easy enough, a boy is met by the grim reaper on his 6th birthday and is informed he is now death.
the first arc is basically oh shit how do my powers work;
ok now im contributing in a positive way using my curse
then frieza like villian, which would be more like the MC sitting down and philosophically talking about death with death itself, having experienced the job himself. It ends with a question, and in which the narrator interrupts to say "neither death knew death."

FIN
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So this is the power of /lit/?
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maybe you should ask on reddit
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Try something a lot less gay desu

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>The Gay Science
>Ecce Homo

Was Nietzsche a poof?
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>Was Nietzsche a poof?

who cares
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>>8606083
No, english translator's are.
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>>8606083
>ecce homo
always makes me giggle because it sounds like "eze homo" which in hebrew would be "what a homo"

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How do you feel about this man?
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he's black and a libertarian, so you know liberal economics are BTFO forever now aight
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Chicken Soup for plebs. No real economist would read pleb shit like Sowell.

"Muh demand and supply" and "Muh liberty": the author.
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>>8606041

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who was the most important philosopher?
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>>8605933
Wittgenstein
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Me
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Zizek

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How beautiful are thy feet with shoes, O prince's daughter! the joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman.
Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.
Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.
Thy neck is as a tower of ivory; thine eyes like the fishpools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bathrabbim: thy nose is as the tower of Lebanon which looketh toward Damascus.
Thine head upon thee is like Carmel, and the hair of thine head like purple;...
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Is Solomon using the woman as a metaphor for the Jewish state there? He's piling on adjectives that describe economic prosperity rather than anything objectively attractive in terms of the female form.

>your eyes are koi ponds

Y-you too, senpai.
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>>8605909
he's comparing the work of mother nature to a craftsman, i read this a month ago
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I've been reading the NIV. How long does it take to get used to the language of the KJV?

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Raymond Carver is one of my favorite short story writers, what do you think about him?

I've been in a short story mood lately.

What are you favorite short stories /lit/? Any recommended authors?
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>>8605905
"Cathedral" is really good. I got sick of him after reading a few stories, though. Definitely a master of the minimalist form, but gets tiresome after a short while.

My favorite short story is DFW's "Good Old Neon." Showing my cards here.

Maybe Ligotti's "The Bungalow House."
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>>8605910
Yeah I really admire his minimalist style, my prose tends to be "stuffed" and I've been trying to learn from his work.

I'll check out those stories, thanks
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I love Nabokov's short stories, behind him I would have to say Kafka.

Chesterton's Father Brown stories are also excellent, very cozy and funny.

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>I try to write a novel

>Try fantasy
>Ok this has to be easy right? No, I can't finish ten pages with out getting lost in my own set up.
>Horror
>Creepy stuff, aliens, the fear of the unknown. Nope can't even come up with something original. Damn you Lovecraft.
>Science fiction
>About twenty pages I'm ripping off The Stars, Like Dust.

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>>8605875
Thats alright man. To be honest, if you write for fun then who cares what the book is about? Thats just the way I see it
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>>8605875

Lets read some, my dick is ready
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>want to write a book
>jot down a tome of notes about everything
>can't even begin to think of an opening line

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Is this the best thing he ever wrote?
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>>8605858
It's up there, man, but that's really hard to say. I can't really say that The Gay Science or Zarathustra or Beyond Good and Evil are WORSE than Human, All Too Human.
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I haven't read that one. I just remember "Will to Power" was one of his greatest works. That's the only one I listened to on audiobook.

You have me curious now, so I might listen to it and get back with you. :-)
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Top 3 for sure, he seems more optimistic and debunks some of his old thinking.


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