The world seen from satiety, the dread words of the content, Flatter than a plateful of platitudes, More poisonous than the gaseous lies that no one believes. The fullest of bellies laments ‘Life is hard, And getting harder all the time’. The most insipid of swollen lips declare ‘Nothing is original, everything is illusory, Life is nothing but the dream of a dream’ (They’re half-right for the wrong reasons) Pry open your crust eyes! the day is ending!
Donatella took me to the Second floor of the Ospedale Civico, Where the howls of relatives and angry shouting meant that someone had died, Dr Pistone couldn’t see me yet, so, to kill some hours, I took the vespa to a forest near Baida, of eucalypts and firs to sit Rapt in the almost-silence, Only birdsong and the crashing-wave sounds of distant cars. Each sound part of another… A wind broken up into puffing gusts, waxy leaves trembling Of an about-to-flower laurel. A pool of water and blood and squid ink littered with swelling lemon halves, Thousands... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7609503 As am I. Couldn't hurt, though. I actually found a supposed English copy online for a normal price. Pretty sure the description is accurate, but not sure I really want it on my shelf, especially since I already own Lolita.
i´m interested in "sacred geometry" (metatron, life flower, platonic solids kind of stuff) and beauty mathematics (fibonacy, golden proportion etc). i do not know where to start, i never study "hard math", just the basic calculus and algebra or fin a serius book about it (just mystic mindfart). what can you recomend? something to start with and get the bascis thanks /lit/, by the way, if you have something in spanish (i lear english but i prefer my mother lenguage if possible) that will be the best thing, but if dont i can deal with english
>>7608850 sorry for any spelling horrors, i came to lit couse i want something more serius abour (an study about their presence in history maybe?). anywhere i find something interesting i just end up with "iniciation" and stuff like that.
I got for P&V because Orthodox Christians go for that translation. The reason being the wife has long been a professional translator of theological works for the Russian Orthodox Church and she can catch theological nuance and use of theological terms.
>>7608831 The Idiot translation by McDuff is one of the best so don't worry about it. I have no idea about the other two but you should check the thread titled Translations as this is being discussed there and you could use that information. Also >>7608833 is a bad meme and just copied the same he posted in the thread I talked about.
Back to /his/ and your shitty religious threads Constantine.
>1. Notes from Underground (Bantam Classic): Finished it. >Translator: Mirra Ginsburg >Introduction: Donald Fanger I'm not familiar with her translation work, but from what I can see I wouldn't worry too much about the quality of her work.
>2. The Idiot (Penguin Classics): Yet to read >Translator: David McDuff >Introduction: William Mills Todd III McDuff is widely praised for his translation of Dostoyevsky, and from what I've read/am reading of his work (Karamazov) I would agree.
>3. The Brothers Karamazov (Bantam Classic): Yet to read >Translator: Andrew R McAndrew >Introduction: Konstantin Mochulsky I thought this was a very good translation, and the Introduction is excellent too, although looking over it I see a minor spoiler at the top of p. xvi, i.e., the crime at the center of the book, the murder of the father, and a big spoiler at the top of p. xvii, the solution of the mystery. The minor spoiler isn't that big a deal I think, so I think it's profitable to read up to maybe the bottom of p. xvi, or just read all of it after reading the book.
How do so many people miss the point of this? You don't need to read Chernyshevsky's What Is To Be Done? to understand it, but I'm beginning to think a lot of people should. People seem to think the Underground Man is some sort of caricature of /r9k/ types, when in fact he isn't because he's the one who is making his life into the caricature...that is, he is willfully and consciously pathetic, he isn't pathetic because he tries to be "literary", he tries to be "literary" because it is pathetic. That is why he intentionally ruins his very "literary" opportunity with the qt, because if he didn't ruin it, then he would cease to be pathetic. The entire point is being pathetic and foolish and doing what is against one's interests, is sometimes precisely what is in one's own interests. It's not about the lifestyle of the Underground Man, it's about the affirmation of the Underground Man: he is going against his own interests precisely because it is against his own interests, and the feeling of freedom this engenders is more valuable to him than anything else.
To quote a passage from The Way of the Pilgrim
>It happens that I myself was once a witness of a similar case. Near our village there is a very deep and steep-sided ravine, not very wide, but some seventy feet or more in depth. It is quite frightening to look down to the gloomy bottom of it. A sort of footbridge has been built over it. A peasant in my parish, a family man and very respectable, suddenly, for no reason, was taken with an irresistible desire to throw himself from this little bridge into that deep ravine. He fought against the idea and resisted the impulse for a whole week. In the end, he could hold himself back no longer. He got up early, rushed off, and jumped into the abyss. They soon heard his groans and with great difficulty pulled him out of the pit with his legs broken. When he was asked the reason for his fall, he answered that although he was now feeling a great deal of pain, yet he was calm in spirit, that he had carried out the irresistible desire which had worried him so for a whole week, and that he had been ready to risk his life to gratify his wish.
Dostoevsky's premise, his philosophy here, is driven by the Trinity, the one essence is preceded by the foundation of the three existences (the Greek word for existence, generally translated as "person" in relation to the Trinity, literally means the foundation of something). The Underground Man has existence but is in a struggle to find his essence. And he intentionally afflicts himself with the most irrational essence there is, as an expression of existentialist freedom. Dostoevsky isn't saying to live like that or not live like that, these ideas would defeat the whole point of the story.
Also, here is an Orthodox reading list and FAQ for atheists, Catholics, Jews, etc.: http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
Can we get a druggy thread going? What's /lit/ currently high on? I just smoked the last of the lemon haze I bought just after Christmas.
Currently reading True Hallucinations by Terence McKenna, a book which surprisingly touches on botany, linguistics, and sociology/socio-biology. It's also just plain fun, how the people in the book tramp through the Amazon Rainforest whilst tripping on all sorts of drugs. They meet mechanical transdimensional elves, UFOs, gods and goddesses, and the very nature of Time Itself. Definitely worth a read even if you like straight-up... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I can't wait for weed to go the way of cigarettes; friends and family patronisingly telling you to quit, people looking at you annoyed when you stink up the pavement, being asked to leave the room to Indulge in your filthy habit because cracking the window open just isn't enough.
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