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/crit/ thread, motherfucker.
First page of what I'm writing.
Post what you got.
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>>8591311
I stopped reading a little after the twelve sentences used to describe the sun.
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>>8591360

Me too. Basically says, "I'm spending so much time on describing the landscape, that you just know there's no substance to this shit."

Get to a fucking story, we know what a goddamn desert is.
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>>8591368
oh yeah? whats a desert?

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POST YOUR FAVORITE ETYMOLOGIES. THINGS THAT REALLY GIVE YOU ETYMOLOGY BONERS
>jupiter
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plz respond
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>>8589836
>Not even posting the ety
4shame op

>from Greek, zeu pater, for "heavenly Father"
Whatever, pretty lame etymology I guess.

I like weird's
>from old English, wyrd, meaning "having the power to control destiny"
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Are there books about cool etymologies?

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Write her a love poem, /lit/
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I wait for you after class,
For you are my lass.
May God give us a pass,
Even though we don't attend mass.
You give me some sass,
But I have the brass,
Now let me fuck you up the ass.
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fuck you, you fucking WHORE
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u chose that ugly baby face POORFAG faggot over me, DUMB BITCH you will regret it

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Was told to get a spicier pic.

Votings going on for a few weeks. Meme posts will be discounted wholly, so don't do it. You can go back and change your vote at any time until poll.

Link - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeEuDRJF33JvAFxsckzp_54uMiOfqCWkWWlKKZPaVE3BjWwwg/viewform

Results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_6-b92dCuQKzH4Va2mKI3fy22Du0l3PxkybyPLqEX88/edit?usp=sharing

Referendum on Shakespeare - http://www.strawpoll.me/11365179
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I do like this pic better

Don't want to start a new thread for this.

Is the Lydia Davis translation the best translation of Swann's way?
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>>8584529
Can we have the list of the least voted this year? Maybe doing so we can discover lesser known titles.
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>>8584587
You can have the full list and look at all the 1-vote books like last year?

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I feel like I have to turn in my geek card, but...I don't think I like The Lord of the Rings. The prose is very...meandering. Lots of sentences and thoughts that seem to start and then peter out without having gone anywhere.

I know I'm a failure as a human being, but dammit I've tried a dozen times now and I just can't make it through. What am I doing wrong here?
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>>8605608
It's just not for you.
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It's literally just a long fairy tale for kids who have too long of an attention span due to autism.
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>>8605608
is this a reddit copypaste

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>lol christianism is dying so everyone will become nihilists
>but I don't like christianism because reasons so instead have this eternal recurrence

Ridiculous.
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>>8605488
>Christianism
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I'm thinking that at this point the fedora should be replaced by the boater due to how essential it is for strawmen.
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>>8605488
wow i hate nietzsche now

lets waste our time and share our love for literature, music and the fine arts.

join us on tinychat com / 4chanlit
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dont join if you are a pleb
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and die antwoord
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>>8605411
>and die antwoord
newcomers, as general rule just ignore this guy (sktich).

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Why was the first half so superior?
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>>8605215
I'm on the last 100 pages and I'm almost skipping pages..
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>>8605263
pleb
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Which brother did you guys find most relatable? I though Alyosha.

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What genre is Dean Koontz writing? Or rather, what genre is it when most of the story is modern times/regular real life stuff, except for a few things. Like say...how the SCP files are. For the most part, the stuff could be believable, except for the anomalies themselves? What the hell is that called?

Everyone always asks me what genre I like to write in, and I really don't know what to tell them besides fiction/dark/adult. I can't give them a specific genre because I don't know what it would actually fit under. But it's similar to these other things.
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>>8605135
post-Stephen King
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>>8605143
Is...is that actually a genre? Or is that just a good way to describe it to people?
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>>8605135
thriller

You are now aware that the longest written work ever created is a 15,000 page epic about little girls with penises.
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>>8604961
>being long makes something notable
Kill yourself.
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>>8604972
Insecure micropenis detected
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>>8604972
Henry Darger's clusterfuck/masterpiece is notable for other reasons as well

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What the fuck is this guy talking about? Does anyone on lit claim to know? If so do you have any tips on where to start, good secondary lit, etc.?
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start on any page
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I don't know who he is, but he looks French, and the French have a well-known history of intellectual charlatanism.
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>>8604710
"What is philosophy" is quite accessible and very pleasant.

What is your favorite literature that reminds you that you will die?

I'm talking about this genre:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori
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Everything.
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>>8604662
Narcissus und Goldmund
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>>8604662
Cioran

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Any good lit dealing with cannibalism?
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>>8604538

Not lit related but a new comic was released this month dealing with cannibalism spreading like a virus similar to Zika or Swine flu. It's called Cannibal by Image.
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>>8604538
Book of the New Sun
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>>8604545

Wait, which sections of BOTNS had cannibalism since I haven't read the last two yet.

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or overrated as fuck
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>>8604535
Underrated if anything, since so many people only remember "that really long book that bored me in primary school" and don't revisit.
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>>8604535
The king of the novel, there is no other.
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>>8604535

He is unmatched when it comes to character creation
His prose is delightful once you develop an ear for his verbiage
Pickwick is hilarious
Bleak House is his masterpiece

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For me, it was the count of monte cristo. Could not put it down
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>>8604464
Really would just be a list of the first 'good' books I've read. The magic wanes
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For me, it was Looking for Alaska. My girl friend could not let me put it down.
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Probably the three Dostoevsky novels that I like the most: The Idiot, Crime and Punishment, and The Brothers Karamazov. Other than that, Don Quixote and The Iliad and plenty of ancient Greek works.

What is the advantage of the blank verse (only metrical observation, but no rhyme) over prose?

Homer, Hesiod, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides, Virgil, Ovid, Shakespeare, Milton: all of them made ample use of such verse. It was much more common in antiquity than rhymed poetry. But was is the great advantage of using verse over prose?

I wonder: it is only rhythm that makes the non-rhymed verse an alternative to prose, or is there something more?
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>>8604089

bump
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>>8604089
Rhyme is only a single element in poetry and one absent or far less prevalent in other languages than English. Poetry is so much more than just metered text with rhymes.
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There is no advantage. One uses either depending on what the work demands. They are also very different from each other. Just because blank verse doesn't have rhyme it doesn't mean that it is equal with prose, or that prose is just blank verse without line cuts.

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What are some good books about books?
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Borges
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>>8604043
I gotta be completely and truthfully honest with you, my main man: a real real good example of the sort of text that you're looking for gotta be my diary, journal, personal notebook, whatever you want to call it, and to reiterate, this is in all honesty, just what I personally believe to be the complete and utter truth.
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>>8604043
I think there's a chart on the wiki
also: Manguel - Dictionary of imaginary places

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who is this guy and why does /lit/ worship him? and what's up with the spooky thing?
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His basal notions are something I tend to agree with in spirit, but my practical arm is always pulling.
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his name is le mememan spookbuster supreme
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This man, in my land he is nothing.

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>tfw no muse
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They suck so bad, trying to rip off Radiohead and Queen.
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>>8604022
Dante saw Beatrice twice in his entire life.

No excuses!
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>>8604055
She must have been a divinely qt.

I have come up with a Star Wars fan made story that is basically the length of a standard novel. As cliche and cheesy as it sounds, I would very much like to release it to the public.

What would be the best way to go about this, considering it is like a novel and isn't a short story? Such as a specific site or something?

I suppose there would be copyright issues since I am using Luke, Leia, Han and other characters from Lucasfilm.
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>>8603942

wattpad.com
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Throw it in the trash with the millions of other shitty Star Wars fan fiction.
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>>8603942
Let the garbage men take care of it for you.

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Ok, Lit, I've heard your advice and have rewritten my query letter. It's shorter, punchier, and portrays the story better.

Dear Mr./Mrs. [Agent],
I am seeking representation for my 87000-word literary novel, WAR WITHIN.

In the heart of the independent Grafted City will break out a desperate fight for survival between two sides, both formed of escaped civilians from Rune. The first has the numbers, the supplies, and a solid system of law and connected settlements; the second has a flock of gigantic genetically-engineered birds, and a brutal ideology...
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>>8603932
Like last time, if you'd please, BE CONSTRUCTIVE. Tear me a new asshole, fine, fucking burn me, but at least give me some balm or tell me how to fix it.
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>>8603932
For those who want to compare the new letter to the old one:

Hello!
I’m writing because I am in need of someone to represent my 87000-word literary novel, War Within.

The story is told from the perspective of three characters: Max, a scrawny obsessive man, his burly soldier of a brother Luke, and Mercy, a bookish genetic engineer satisfied with living a serene life of solitude. It starts with the events that would change the characters and their worlds forever: Max losing his family after an airstrike...
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>>8603932
Provide substitutes if you would please.

Thanks in advance. I know I seemed butthurt in the first thread, but I just (I'll just come out and say it) got triggered by the replies that criticised without specifying the reason or how they'd fix it.

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This guy, /lit/. This magnificent bastard right here.

Can we get an Ernst Junger thread happening?
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Which is the best Junger, the conservative revolutionary or the anarch?
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>>8603915
What an awesome question.

I'm reading Eumeswil right now, and I'm all in on the anarch. All fucking in. It's like if James Bond was Bruce Lee, Ernst Junger would be Ip Man. It's a stupid comparison in many ways (conflating literary and historic figures from across cultures, etc.) but...well, whatever.

But I think that his concept of the anarch one of these concepts that really makes sense coming from a conservative-revolutionary background - moreover, one that actually sees the war,...
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>>8603957
Put another way, becoming the anarch - this transition from soldier to worker to rebel to anarch - just makes sense, as an intellectual evolution of a person who lived in and through those times the way that EJ does.

I've read some of the thinkers from in and around this era - Heidegger, Spengler, Nietzsche, Stirner - and Junger seems...I don't know, just unique.

And then, of course, he says shit like this. So I need to balance out my raging faggotry on this subject with some commentary and...
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Yeah.
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Read them and find out, you dingus.
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you mean her books?

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A math PhD student in my insistute is organizing a reading group ablut operads (for homotopy theory - we read "the geometry of iterated loop spaces" by May)
I'm a physicist and feel I'm lacking in motivation for this abstraction - anybody here like operads and whats to tell me why?
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I want matfak to leave
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>>8603845
Why do you ask here an not on sci?
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>>8604125
Because /sci/ is filled with even more pseuds than lit. Not OP, but I don't really read much literature. I'm mostly into pure-math and linguistics. Nevertheless, I prefer to browse /lit/ because most people on /sci/ seem to be pretentious engineering majors who think they're the shit because they passed Calc III and Differential equations with an 82% and then they shit on stuff like biology because its not a "real science".

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I want to read a sci-fi book so obviously i started with Neuromancer but i ended up hating the jerky style of the book, it might be me but i really dislike it. Can you guys recommend me anything else that isn't Dune?
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>>8603709
Go back to your containment thread, thank you.
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>>8603709
I'm liking Lem's Cyberiad and I usually can't stand Sci-Fi
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>>8603713
if you mean /k/ i don't even go there i just posted a random gif to start the thread because i don't have many, i thought it was funny but obviously i caused you emotional distress, my apologies

>>8603718
i will look it up

Is it acceptable to stop reading a book without finishing it? I just gave up on a book 27 pages in because it was poorly written, with shit dialogue, typographical errors, and inconsistent logic. Is that fair? Do I "owe" the author (some local writer) my time (after foolishly giving my money) to finish his work?
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is completely acceptable.

i ditched infinite jest like 20 pages after having started, because it was a dumb and boring drivel i couldnt be fucked to get into.
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>>8603703
It's ok. You don't have to eat trash and you don't own them a thing. Why would you even feel guilty in the first place?
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>>8603749
There's always those faggots who insist that you can't really judge it without reading the whole thing, or that the author put a lot of work into it and I should respect that.

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Friendly reminder that existentialist trash like L'Étranger is not art.
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I'm sure Camus will be devastated to hear your judgement.
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Define art for us
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>>8603674
that gif made me a bit happier

thanks op

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any must watch /lit/ talks/seminars/lectures?
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Terence McKenna
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this series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPK3Mv6_Aps
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>>8603586
>this is all it takes to get a masters degree in literature

kek liberal arts majors

Is it acceptable to write something with a similar setting to a foreign piece of literature?

I mean, I'm planning on writing a YA Fiction book with a character who is similar to another character from a foreign piece of fiction, and a similar setting to that piece of fiction, but I'm planning on changing a lot of things. Will that fly?
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It's a free country, ain't it?
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>>8603585
I'm just worried about getting in trouble because of copyrights or trademarks.
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it worked out fine for hunger games so it'll be ok for you

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Lets have a good ol' goodreads speedleveling thread

List books that have the highest literary merit to page number ratio to pad your bookshelf.

example:

The Old Man and the Sea (high literary merit, 127 pages)
rating: 9/10


A Dance with Dragons (low literary merit, 1040 pages)
rating: 2/10


Short stories and poetry anthologies are welcome, but comics/mangashit are not
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My Diary Desu (high literary merit, 965 pages)
rating: 10/10
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>>8603501
>965 pages

additional rule: nothing over 350 pages

after that the page count is weighted exponentially higher and not even War and Peace can be rated over 5/10 given how long it is.
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>>8603497
Thinking/caring about whatever you're talking about places you firmly among the dilettantes


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