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What does lit think of Gene Wolfe? I just read The Fifth Head of Cerberus and it's incredible how good it is.
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Personally he convinced me it's still possible to write literary SFF. The Book of the New Sun and Latro in the Mist are the only two I've read from him, but I thought they were phenomenal. I'm keen to try Peace, how is it in regards to his other work?
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>>8595599

Okay, here's what you need to know about Peace: it's essentially a book that pretends to be another book. It seems like it's just a grumpy old man remembering his life growing up in the midwest with some fairytales thrown in, but if you're paying attention something...happens in the midway section that means that essentially you're being lied to.

This book is the best example of the unreliable narrator ever.
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>>8595589
There are two posters that have convinced themselves that he isnt just competent fantasy, which of course is all he is.

It speaks more to the paucity of half decent fantasy novels more than any real criticism to Mr. Wolfe

What to read before Ulysses?

What to read before Finnegans Wake?
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France, 1922. Joyce after another eye operation.

(Photo from the Rosenbach Museum and Library)
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>>8595346
>What to read before Ulysses
Just read it, it's not hard and the references aren't even that important. (Odyssey)

>What to read before Finnegans Wake?
No point reading anything before it besides for Ulysses.
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>>8595495
What about New Science and the Egyptian Book of the Dead?

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>this fucking video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doZROwdte4
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>sincerity
What a load of cucky bullshit
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he is right desu
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I saw that on reddit too. dum plebs

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What Philosophers and books should I read to be the like the Dude or even Donny?
Right now I'm the like the German nihilist, and it gets old
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>>8595304

A betters question to ask,

Should I just do 20 years in the military and retire at 38 with a pension of around 3,189 a month plus healthcare and dental?
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>>8595328
Nah, if you're American just go on welfare
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>>8595304
Do lots of drugs until your brain stops thinking and only feels.
Avoid sloppy drugs like Opiates. Go for Psychedelics.

Supplement it with reading books about spirit energy crystals and Mahayana/Theravada Buddhism. Zen is too strict and no fun.

I think it is more of a lifestyle switch than a mental switch through reading/studying.

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This guy is /lit/ as fuck

http://thebookshopper.typepad.com/the_book_shopper_atlantad/2009/05/the-unabombers-library-part-2.html
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>>8595390
Fuck off ashtray
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>>8595283
Teddy is a genius and a tragic story of being born feeling inferior and getting mindfucked by the CIA in college. He was also a very brilliant mathematician and many graduate students run across one or two of his papers during their research.
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>>8595779
He's right, though, everything he says is right.

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Why is MLA format important?

I understand the need to have a reasonable format so that way documents can be read easily. Some of the rules don't make any sense.

>Double Spaced

This wastes paper, and makes your essay seem much more longer and important than what it really is.

> Only use Times New Roman.

Why? Arial, Calibri, Gadugi, and Yu Mincho all are easy to read fonts.

>1 Inch Boarder.

Why not use metric terms first off. Secondly...
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>>8595279
>why not use metric

Paper is 8 1/2 x 11 inches. You've lost this battle for all eternity, eurofag. There's nothing you can ever do to get metric measurements used on paper
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To make it easy on the eye and to have uniformity.

If you don't want to use MLA, use Chicago or APA or your shitty university's system, as long as you are consistent throughout your paper and don't mix styles then it's all good. If you have a problem with using MLA, ask your teacher if you can use another one, just don't come to /lit/ to whine about your personal preferences. We already have too many threads like that.
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>>8595878
Where else would I go to wine?

>>8595859
Amerifat here

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>what is the literature equivalent of X?
>red pill me on X.
>/pol/ shit
>/board/ here, how do I read?
>recommendation threads
Why does this board exist?
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>Why does this board exist? threads

??
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people want to believe in a world where anything can happen.

they don't want to imagine they're stuck in the four-dimensional Newtonian universe of cause and effect.

they want to believe in magic, because magic gives you results with no effort.
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>>8595899
>they don't want to imagine they're stuck in the four-dimensional Newtonian universe of cause and effect.

Ever heard of qauntum phisics u dumbas

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/v/fag here. How do I quit video games/mindlessly refreshing /v/ and actually START reading and read consistently?
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>>8595128

Read a book, nigger.
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>>8595128
day 1 goal: read one page
day 2 goal: read two pages
day 3 goal: read three pages
etc.

You can read more than your goal on a given day, but you have to at least reach your goal

When you plateau, drop back 10 - 15 pages and start over

I a couple months you'll be reading a shitload
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>>8595145
I should add that this is assuming you don't plateau before 10 pages. If you do that, you're a scrub and should go back to v games

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Any good Mayan mythological literature?
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>>8595095
i like the one where chocolate is that one god's penis blood, the one by the sports court
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>>8595098
Tell me more about this tale
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>>8595109
when you win the game, the god comes along and sticks the sharp side of a horn into his dick and then pours hot chocolate into each of the winning players' cups from the other side of the horn and they are all happy in the afterlife

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Isn't it interesting that the greatest novelist of this century is with us on this board right now?
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>>8594990
There's probably a few of us capable of writing great-tier works. Fascinating to think. Whether any of us will stop shitposting long enough is another question though
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>>8595050
I assume he meant the internet conciousness which will publish its highly acclaimed first novel in 2085.
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>>8595057
>internet conciousness

I don't understand.

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Everything is very serious, can we have a silly thread?
We can post funny words we wrote, and share wacky images.
I just want a few good belly laffs.
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>>8594965
We would be able to do this if it wasn't for /pol/tards shitting up every thread getting triggered
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>>8594965
We're all made of materials that are billions of years older then us
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>>8594965
Sounds good, a /lit/ YLYL

I read "Journey to the Centre of the Earth", in the highly praised William Butcher translation. It's crap. All the characters are morons, Verne has never heard of "show not tell", and the science isn't even slightly plausible. And apparently the French think this is serious literature. It's laughable to think it could be compared to American or British meme-lit.

Is everything Verne wrote garbage, or should I try again with another of his works?
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Jesus fucking Christ
kys
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>>8594935
>And apparently the French think this is serious literature.
Absolutely not. Verne is light-lit at best in the french canon my man...
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>i didn't read the original version.

...est une bévue sérieuse pour tenter de lire Vernes -- les longues descriptions, en anglais, perdent de leur imaginaire original. Rachète-toi en lisant «20 mille lieues sous les mers», puis «L'Île Mystérieuse", son meilleur livre. En français, bien sur.

Or, in german.

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Did the Lestrygonians chapter give anyone else a boner?
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Nope, you're the first in recorded history.
Congrats.
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>>8594914
Does anyone else get a bone from good prose, like really good prose? Not even sexual, just feeling out the sound of a really well-flowing, beautiful couple of sentences.

I'm not the only one am I? Is this the literary lifestyle?
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Of course. I saved my fapping for the end soliloquy, of course, but it's a good start.

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>implying this board understands Joyce
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Joyce is entry-level garbage.
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naw be boorha phooey
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>>8594904
>implying Joyce was even remotely as genius as Pynchon

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Just a reminder that a real nihilist would have no problem with creating a tulpa, seeing as how the end result is personal happiness regardless of "muh pride."
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>>8594901
>creating a tulpa
>I like my imaginary friend and find no reason to not do that.
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>>8594932
Do you see a problem, friend?
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Is anyone surprised that Nietzscheposters are also /mlp/ as fuck

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>Neil Gayman

books ruined by unlikable edgy protagonistsand then later, when the protagonist becomes likeable, ruined with a "the REAL bad guy was that inconsequential character from chapter 1" twist
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His short stories are better and don't always have Gaiman Protagonist.
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>>8594875
Read it to my kids, its his best work
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>>8595484
His best stuff is all co-authored.

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What does /lit/ think of GK Chesterton?
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facist fuck who wrote good detective stories
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fat
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>>8594864
>fascist fuck
>implying that's a bad thing

their faces when you read your poetry out loud
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>>8594845
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>>8594845
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>>8594845
I'm gonna have to do this for my uni course. It's like actually part of the course.

Shitting myself. Some poetry ain't meant to be read aloud.

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Objectively speaking, Times New Roman is the single best typeface in the entire history of Latin script

There is no reason to ever use another.
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Well glad that's sorted.
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>>8594789
Times New Roman is shit and makes your eyes bleed. It is both unnecessarily hard to read and uglier that a dog's anus.
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>>8594789
Caslon is better.

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Does it hold up if you look at it as prose fiction?
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>>8594761
new testament philosophy is tip tier broo
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It disintegrates in your hands.
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>>8594761
This is a good version if you'd like to read the bible without the distractions of verse numbers and annotations (i.e. like prose fiction)

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Name exactly (1) woman who liked Moby Dick.
You can't.
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>>8594703

you're mom liked my moby dick last night anon
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>>8594703
I knew one who liked the beginning and end, but thought the middle was padded with unnecessary minutia. Does that count?
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>>8594714
lmfao

>“There will come a time when all of us are dead; there will come a time when there are no human beings remaining to remember that anyone ever existed or that our species ever did anything. There will be no one left to remember Aristotle or Cleopatra, let alone you. Everything that we did and built and wrote and thought and discovered will be forgotten and all of this will have been for naught. Maybe that time is coming soon and maybe it is millions of years away, but even if we survive the collapse of our sun, we will not survive forever."

Why...
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>>8594648

>implying anyone on this board hasn't read TDOII
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i have
i'm glad you liked it friend
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>>8594648
Probably the best thing i've ever read, but that quote is terrible.

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What are some novels that are very rich in quality of prose, word use and choice, and also have very pleasant visuals and scenes? I'd like to read a novel that's as beautiful as the music of Erik Satie, particularly his Gymnopedies, or alternatively Frederic Chopin's nocturnes for piano. The closest I've gotten is Oscar Wilde and H.P. Lovecraft but they're nowhere near the level of beauty I'd like to read.
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>>8594497
I think this might be the most reddit post I've seen in my entire life.
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>>8594497
Ada or Ardor by Vladimir Nabokov
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>>8594497
How you find Lovecraft comparable to Satie and Chopin is beyond me.
To answer your question, just read Proust.
>>8594503
(agreed)

which book has the best description of what it's like to listen to great music?
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A lot of JR has amazing descriptions of music/discussions of music. Same with The Recognitions.
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Marcel Proust talks a lot about Vintuelli's sonata. I remember it was in Swan's love. It was really impresive as i recall
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>>8594448
Perks of Being a Wallflower

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>he loves Pynchon
>he adores V.
>he hasn't read Stone Junction

Whats your excuse /lit/?
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Ever since finding out Henry Ford was an antisemite, I don't read anything by someone whose name is a brand of car
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>>8594457
This is our excuse
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>>8594482
It's certainly worthy of us

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What are the most patrician (i.e. your personal favorite) plays?

I saw Hedda Gabler some time ago (the Ingrid Bergman-version on YT) and at first it left me unimpressed, but it has stuck with me for the past months and the more I think about it the more depth of the characters I find, and I like it more and more. Has a female character ever be written this well by a man before?

I've seen Samuel Beckett and Sarah Kane talked about on /lit/ often. Is Beckett just a meme like James Joyce? Should 4.48 be read or seen optimally?
What about No Exit...
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4:48 Psychosis is bizarre on the page. It doesn't really hold together until it's staged by a competent troupe.

Beckett is treated like a meme by know-nothing cunts that can't think for themselves and so let Nabokov think for them. Waiting for Godot and Endgame are widths of genius, but they are actor's plays; you can't really appreciate them until you've been through the rehearsal proceed with them.

If you like Ibsen then you'll probably like Chekhov, though his sense of humor might not immediately come across.
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>>8594465
Do you know of any good recording of 4.48?
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>>8594469

I do not. If you live in a major city, I imagine there is a company that is either producing the show or will be in the next few years, especially if you're in England.

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for better or for worse, if you agree with his ideas or not?
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of the 20th century no one comes close to be honest
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yep
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How was he smart?

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Does /lit/ like H.P Lovecraft? Can anyone recommend me some of his works?

Thanks!
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ever herd 'o' South Park?
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>>8594405
The TV show? Yeah, I watched a few seasons. I like the newer episodes more than the old ones in my opinion.
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use the archive we have this shitty thread every day

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>need to say Balzac aloud in class
>scared I'll accidentally say ballsack
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Don't worry, people will laugh at you regardless.
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>>8594387
Is Mike Stoklasa /lit/?
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>offend somebody with "ballsack"
>hears "balzac"
>thinks i find him intellectually attractive

is the crying man book good?
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he's not crying and no
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>>8594383
he's trying not to laugh at dank memes
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He's cumming


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