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>Bookstore has a copy of "Kapital", volume one, by Karl Marx

>Bookstore also has an economics section

>Bookstore's copy of Kapital isn't shelved in the economics section
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>>8586732
Pure ideology
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>>8586732
It's political economy, not economics
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Should be in children's books

I unironically love this book.
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>>8586679
i'm reading it right now. it has some absolutely great moments and I like the general ideas it presents, but at the same time it's frustratingly long-winded and filled with seemingly meaningless crap. i guess i'll end up liking it more towards the end, as it usually happens with longer novels.
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>>8586679
Pleb
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>>8586679
I'm 135 pages in. When does it get good?

I'm not even joking. I just find it bland and directionless atm.

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>It would be like an episode of "Are You Being Served?" by Dostoyevsky.
>"Mr. Humphries, are you free?"
>"None of us are truly free, dear Mrs. Slocum, unless it is in the act of murder."


Jerusalem is 10/10.
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>>8586668
>reference jokes xD
this is trash.
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>>8586668
Pretty funny!

Do you have to be really well read to read this book? Because if there is a lot of literally references like that then i won't get them.

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What books should I read to gain a thorough understanding of Mexican culture and society (not necessarily classics but ones that encapsulate the country)?
Also which ones are in fact the classics?
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>>8586659

t. Latin American but not Mexican.

The best 4 Mexican writers are Octavio Paz (a poet), Rulfo, Alfonso Reyes and Carlos Fuentes. They are all dead.

The best novel by a Mexican about Mexico is almost certainly Pedro Paramo by Rulfo, which is also probably the best Mexican book.

2 great novels about Mexico written by non Mexicans are The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene, and The Savage Detectives by Bolaño, who was Chilean but lived a few years in Mexico as a teenager and young adult.
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Do it about a girl that rub shit in her pussy.
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>>8586779
>octavio paz
hell no

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This is a general for discussing the theory of Forms.

Discuss the theory of Forms.
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>tfw this thread is a lower form
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>>8587137
>a concrete existent is a Form

Quit being retarded.
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>>8586653

So, does anyone at all genuinely believe that Plato/Socrates is being unironic in book X of the Republic where he scolds art?

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Where does one start with reading this man's books?

Could I just dive right into whatever seems interesting or is there something best for someone new to his works?
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Didn't he die from the disease that made Desiigner a good rapper?
That's Michael J Fox, right?
Down syndrome I mean.
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>reading racist literature
>>>/pol/
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>>8586600
lol ebin :p

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I want to study literature but everyone keeps telling me to go for software engineering instead.

I want to learn to write, but not sure if literature is the right choice because it seems like a glorified high school teacher diploma teaching history of literature.

Will I learn to write like a master if I take some elective classes on grammar and figures of speech and read on the weekends the western canon from the library?

Will I learn to write if I besides studying grammar and figures of speech, learn also oratory and rethoric (maybe take some classes on...
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>I want to study literature but everyone keeps telling me to go for software engineering instead.

Then study lit. If you get into a major you have no desire to be in, it's just going to cause trouble for you.

>I want to learn to write, but not sure if literature is the right choice because it seems like a glorified high school teacher diploma teaching history of literature.

It basically is this. You can't learn to write by studying lit, I had several lit professors tell me this flat-out....
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>>8586610
look bro.
I'm not a complete newfag in what entails to be a writer.

You can't seriously tell me go to write and you'll become a good writer.

If you haven't studied grammar, oratory, figures of speech, tropes, poetrhy metric, classical metric, rethoric, history, philosophy, theology you WONT BE A GOOD WRITER.

It doesn't matter how much you write if you haven't learn those topics, you will be an average mediocre faggot after 20 years of writing.

YOU CANT REACH...
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>>8586620
You're a thick one.

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I need some help with an essay for school.

The title is "Kilping's poetry from the colonial West justifies imperial and racist sentiments" (to what extent do you agree?)

For the sake of easy points, I'm going with yes, he was racist - but I need some help, how is racism reflected in his poetry? I've talked about the white man's burden, is there any other poems with good examples?
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You want the homework help board friend.

>>>/hm/

good luck
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>>8586577
>>>/hm/
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>>8586577
Post proof that this is a genuine assignment.

You're making this up to have le epic nigger bashing thread on /lit/

What does /lit/ think about Invisible Man?
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>>8586457
this
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One of my favorite books. It actually made me rethink the history of race and class in America.
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>>8586454
The First book that i was genuenly affected by. I need to read it again.

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What does /lit/ make of the alt right - what are its founding texts? Who publicly disavows it?
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>>8586438
First post; best post.
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>>8586428
>what are it's founding texts

Any /pol/ thread with 200+ replies from 2013 and 2014.
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I find it pretty fascinating. Have we ever seen a right-wing culture jamming movement prior to them?

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How come Oscar Wilde is so widely venerated as a cultural icon when he fugged little boys?

>In the company of Oscar Wilde, [André Gide] had several sexual encounters with young boys abroad.
>Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then...
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>most of his victims were Muslim, probably refugees

Kinda makes u think
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>>8586357
Not making any judgements ;^)? It just seems strange that in a society that condemns pedophilia so strongly, people turn a complete blind eye to the pederasty of major figures.
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>>8586379
>tfw born in the wrong century

At least I won't be around in 2500 when you're only aloud to fuck frumpy 30+ year old women.

books that will make you (me) cry. what are some books that will make you (me) cry?

books that worked on me in the past.

- never let me go
- the remains of the day
- the virgin suicides
- mason and Dixon
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>>8586307
please someone defend me, I don't know how to respond.
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>>8586314
post a smug frog
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>>8586314
But anon, you already responded. It was within you all along.

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NYC /lit/ meet-up!

Join Discord for planning purposes. We have ~4 - 6 guys so far. Mostly students at various schools in the city right now.

Almost certainly going to meet somewhere in Manhattan; timing could be as soon as this weekend. We welcome your input.

https://discord.gg/P5kByMx
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>>8586320
They are bluepilled old men. Is your boipussy ready?
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>>8586320
>implying anyone going to school in NY would be redpilled
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>be 25
>live in brooklyn
>studying lit at nyu while working part-time at a library
>dating a qt submissive arts major
>both vegan
>both sensitive
>both suffering from several self-diagnosed personality disorders
>regularly attend readings by local poets and authors
>have met tao lin two times

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I really need a book in my life which is about fulfillment, one which will teach me how to lead a fulfilling life. Please no religious garbage, believing in things which don't exist is for retards.
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>>8586239
there is no fulfillment. read schopenhauer and stop believing in made up shit.
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OP you have a shit attitude to begin with, so you would need to work on that before you will find fulfillment.
>religious people are retarded
This is what I mean.

Maybe instead try to find books which will help you become open minded.
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>>8586280
>Maybe instead try to find books which will help you become open minded.
the good thing about science is it's true whether or not you believe in it. have you ever heard anyone give you evidence that there's an afterlife? No, it's made up and anyone who doesn't realize that is a massive fucking retard, and it only proves that some people really do have lower functioning brains.

Just finished the fourth and final revision of the fifth chapter of my book. Just ten more chapters to go and then it's done. Unfortunately I did the celebratory drunkenness in advance so nothing for me tonight. It's happening. And I believe in this one, too. It's not like other stuff I wrote. I'm confident in it.

It's very exciting. I'm really looking forward to the rejection letter!
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Good job anon! Any hints you can give us? What's the genre?
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>>8587705
Contemp YA time travel scat slash
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>>8586108
It's shit, start over.

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what's the oneohtrix point never or tim hecker of literature?
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>>8586092
i think anybody here know oneohtrix point never or tim hecker...
anyway: shit music, get some taste dude
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>>8586092

0PN said his latest album was a sort of ode to Julia Kristeva.
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>>8586097
wow, I have shit taste. what will you tell me next? something interesting about life? Oh wait, no. You just leave some shit like a pigeon and then you fly away, because that's all you are. BITCH.

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"Flying anuses, speeding vaginas, there is no castration."
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>>8586071

>mfw freudfags cant into schizophrenia
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>>8586071
Deleuze is a joke of a man.
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>>8586130
But hell of a philosopher.

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would like him less if you found out he was living in some 8000 sq foot mansion and driving a ferrari
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>>8586068
Like Magnum PI ?
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>>8586068
writers make jack shit. Even Stephen King drags a long a measly existence. Maybe JK Rowling has money but that's about it. Every other writer in the world is literally starving to death and turning tricks on the streets. You can walk to the corner of a Brooklyn Bodega and get a blowjob from Don DeLillo and have Pynchon scrounging for the leftovers.
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>>8586113
Stephen King has $400 million.

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Looking for good books to read, things that expand the mind not garbage like Games of Thrones.
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>>8585981

>>>7628174
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>>8586004
That's not really good Literature.
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>>8585981

Ok.

You know any literature that relates to what I'm feeling? Do you relate to what I'm feeling?
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>>8585983
>magnetizing the problem of the human condition and making a false equivalence to people who suffer tremendously being somehow at the opposite end of the spectrum of people who have non life threatening problems
>all problems are trivial and the only thing you should really care about in your life is just shutting the fuck up and doing your job as a slave
yeah I know you're really pushing for that herd conformity
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Well at least you've stopped writing on a pink background but you should still kys.
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>>8585995
>magnetizing
magnifying*

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Is it worth buying?
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>>8585958
you don't have to buy it because it's open source obviously but, yeah, read it
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>>8585965
>open source
i'm not sure that's what it's called
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>>8585991
Public domain.

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>poem
>doesn't rhyme

Why are poets so lazy?
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>poem
>doesn't alliterate
>doesn't have skothending
Why are scalds so lazy?
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>>8585813
they were too busy running a train on ur mum
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>>8585813
>can't into rhythm

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What is the literary equivalent of this masterpiece?
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>>8585768
Ulysses
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>>8585768
Haven't you made this thread before?
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>>8585810
this

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The exit-level chart includes The Recognitions - how is this in any way depressing? What part of it will make me want to kill myself?

Also, post exit-level lit ITT. I need some more suggestions since the only chart is small.
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>>8585684
There's a lot of debate about what the creator of that chart meant by 'exit level'. The leading theory is that it is simply a collection of the creator's favourite books and he has a penchant for depressing lit, but not exclusively.
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>>8585684
>>8585703
What chart are you talking about? Could you post it please?
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>>8585703
By exit they meant suicide.

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after Wolfe, who's the second most aesthetic writer?
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wolfe is seconde.

this guy is first.
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>>8585674
Eternal beard man
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>>8585868
No

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Rec me some books that are absolute must reads.
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The Holy Qu'ran inshallah
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>>8585652
I did look at that. What's wrong with listening to different opinions?
>>8585654
Inshallah brother

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How does this compare to other Murakami books? This is the last of him that I plan on reading. After this, I plan on reading other similar authors and works. Any suggestions?

Thanks.
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>>8585624
What other books by Murakami have you read? I read this after Hard Boiled Wonderland... and Kafka on the Shore. I found it just as enjoyable but perhaps over-long in places. Hard Boiled Wonderland remains my favourite but I'd still recommend Wind-Up Bird Chronicle.
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>>8585664
I've read both HBW and Kafka on the Shore, and a around 5 or 6 more (Sputnik Sweetheart, After the Quake, South of the Border, and a few others).

HBW is my favourite as well. Really a nice story and not too long either.

Any recommendations from other authors?
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>>8585624
You must read 1Q84. It is his best book, while The Wind Up Bird is mid-low tier.

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Any good books ON the greats? Books on Shakespeare, Dante, Cervantes, Homer, The Bible.
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>>8585621
Unlike the jibbering, effemninate, impious mess of incoherent oral tradition that is the """Holy""" Bible, the masculine, direct style of Homer requires no interpreter. For he wrote in accordance with the memory of the Daughter of Zeus herself.
Nor is there any need to scour one's imagination to know Homer's meaning- he means what he says, the events he narrates actually happened as described, and we draw lessons not from the biased fiction of allegory but from raw history...
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You could spend your lifetime simply just reading secondary lit on Homer. Another on Shakes. Just yesterday I saw someone say that the entire western canon is Shakespeare fanfiction. Before him, there was only Homeric denominations.
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>>8585621
it's kinda hard to keep books atop living persons like that for a very long time

i guess for the Bible you could find plenty of examples though

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I have just bought The Essential Russell Kirk.

Who are some other good contemporary conservative authors to read? I don't mind far-right/white nationalist recommendations either
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Roger Scruton, Pat Buchanan. Depends where the line of contemporary ends for you, since conservatives don't churn out books.
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Does Spengler's "The Decline of the West" (published 1913) count as contemporary? If so, that.
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Carl Schmitt
Alan de Benoist
Kenneth Minnogue
Christopher Lasch
James Kalb
Paul Gottfried

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Any books that involve a world with oversized creatures? Kinda in the works of MTG and such?
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Gulliver's Travels
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The Odyssey
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>>8585545
In case you're interested

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/List_of_storyline_sources


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