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Can someone suggest horror shorts,novel,etc that are actually scary.
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Deep water is actually pretty scary
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>>8580527
My diary tbqh
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>>8580547
By who there are a few.

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Has anyone else /actually/ read this? Just finished and I'm unironically hoping to discuss it.

imo it's interesting in its own way. If you read it closely it really enables you to think about what constitutes a novel; what its essential parts are, and what is merely convention. Any notions you have about plot structure, character development, and aesthetics are probably going to be challenged.

Beyond that, It also lets you understand what it's like to have severe but high functioning autism. The main characters are pitiful, schizophrenic, but idealized...
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>>8580456
You'd have better luck finding someone who read Finnegans Wake from cover to cover.
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I think it's unfair on logical positivists to associate them with the smorgasbord of autism that is this book.
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>>8580538
perhaps anon

>>8580543
have you read it? i think its pretty fair.

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Have you realised that picrelated is the ultimate pleb filter and if you don't worship his works then you know nothing?

Have you noticed all the high IQers loving him?
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>>8580437
Ultimate Pleb Filter is George Eliot
she kills the traditionalists and the modernist pseuds in one book.
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I'm a lot smarter than you and I find Donny D pretty underwhelming. I've read a few of his books and it's like I'm trapped in a terrible universe where Thomas Pynchon let Ernest Hemingway influence him too much. Of all the major American postmodern novelists Don Delillo is milquetoast and I find him useful for filtering pseuds like OP.
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>>8580437
I've never heard of this guy, so he can't be that big of a deal.

>>8580447
Silar Marner was the only thing she wrote worth reading, and it isn't that special.

>>8580449
Well said.

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Thoughts?
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dickhead
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>>8580332
No
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>>8580332
Thinking that follows from this book is the basis of our modern dilemma. Read the original Consolations of Philosophy, mongoloid.

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thoughts on Bolaño?
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He found succes in writing despite just doing it to support his family, will always remain an unsuccessful poet, with an even more unsuccessful liver.
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>>8580193
>Implying his liver was unsuccessful.
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Just finished the savage detectives, what should i read next?

The book was incredible, even though it got boring in some parts. Maybe it helped that i lived in mexico city around 2011.

Which is weirder to do with a massive poetry collection like pic related:
read through it cover-to-cover like a novel
or
skip around randomly?

assuming that my intention is to read all of it.
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Read one poem a day. Read it several times and think and feel about it.
Doesn't matter if you go start to end or skip around, unless you want to see how they develop over time. Probably easier to go front to back though.
I think Keats' odes are in a specific order.
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>>8580164
That really depends how the editors have ordered them. But yes reading them with pauses between them is important o they don't just flow in to one long work.
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I have that exact same copy (inherited from grandfather) and I'd say that you need to avoid doing a cover-to-cover reading.

I'd pick one to start with and focus on (personally I'd say Shelley because Keats' oeuvre is bunk).

A helpful essay is Harold Bloom's "The Unpastured Sea: An Introduction to Shelley". It provides a fairly vague explanation of Shelley's major works and their chronology.

First poem to start with: Shelley's "Ode to the West Wind". Sets the standard for the late English Romantics.

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Most attractive authors
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>>8580049
Wish there were a nice picture of him suitable for a computer wallpaper
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>>8580049
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>>8580106
She's pretty hot, what has she written?

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>I tried to read a Cormac McCarthy book and thought, Why doesn’t this cocksucker use quotation marks? I picked up another Cormac McCarthy book and saw that there were six or seven consecutive pages in Spanish. I didn’t know what it meant. My name isn’t Juan Ellroy, OK?
BTFO
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>>8579817
Fucking Ellroy so based
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>There were also less formal engagements. He talked to women—on the phone, in restaurants, in his apartment. Late one night he drove to the house of his girlfriend. The lights were on: the woman, her husband, and their children were inside. Ellroy opened the window of the car and proceeded to bay like a dog. He drove around the block and howled again. Then he did it a third time. The girlfriend called him the next day, laughing. Apparently he bayed at her several times a month. They had a unique arrangement.

what
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>>8580051
I used to know a guy who bayed at women. It's a wacky 60s/70s thing.

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Have any of you gotten a relevant job with only a bachelors degree
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>>8579781
Sales positions at Microsoft, Apple, etc are looking for English majors, apparently. Personally, I intend to get a consulting position somewhere before law school.
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>>8579781
I'm an editor at a publishing house, and I also do freelance and legal editing on the side. The pay isn't fantastic, but I've only been at it a year or so. I'm working my way up and building a list of clients.
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>>8579781
hedge fund

major literally doesn't matter don't fall for the memes.

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So /lit/, I'm about halfway through writing a book and I honestly think I should just quit.

A long time ago, I heard about this book written by some dead guy that sounded interesting. I've never read it, but once in a while I see its name pop up in different forums.

I decided to look at its wiki page just right now, and it wasn't familiar to me in any capacity other than the fact my book sounds like it was heavily influenced by this one.

What the fuck. Is this some weird pop culture phenomena? Did I read this book in another life? And what...
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NO.
do not quit, anon. get that first draft out, then walk away from it for a little bit. come back and start rewriting/editing. you'll be amazed/disappointed/reinvigorated all at the same time. start developing/expanding on whatever is really working...

you'll find the uniqueness/novelty in the book on the second pass.

you can do it. just don't ever quit.
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>>8579753
If you're already halfway through you should finish it.
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>>8579982
You really think so? Thanks anon. I never thought about it that way, that it might develop into something much different than how it started during the editing process.

OK I'll keep at it. Thanks again guys, holding yous accounable.

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hang in there jordan

the roasties are on the retreat
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He probably has enough money, not far off retirement age and gets slots on TV. He's fine eBen if he loses hus job. To the extent he can be
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>>8580357
Wait, what happened with him?

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Not that I wouldn't like the money and attention of course, but I find when I think about others reading my work it makes my writing worse. It makes it shy and vague. Is this a common thing?


Well, if I do get published I'm using a pen name.
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>>8579721
where are those quotes from?
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>>8579823
Sorry anon, not sure. Got this from /pol/, can't find anything online about it either. Maybe someone just made it up?
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>>8579823
It's from the song "Dream House" by the band Deafheaven off of their album Sunbather. Worth checking out anon one of my favorites.

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Thoughts on Slavoj Zizek?
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>>8579585
why do people get pictures like this taken?
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>>8579585
Lurk more, faggot.
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>>8579591
ideology

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Am I the only one who thought that Submission was too shallow? In the sense that it posed no real deep and proper challanges for the main character to adopt islam and the new islamic culture.
It makes me htink that that was the point, a sort of joke about contemporary western culture?
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What is wrong about contemporary western culture??
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Yes one of the points was that what's left of western culture is so shit that even some old barbaric religion for low iq sandniggers is better.

Just make people respect a few rules, let them skip those they don't like, go back to a primitive state of society and things will improve.

It's basically make the women do house work instead of spending billions on their education and let the men do the useful jobs, since the workforce is reduced by half every one will have something more meaningfull to do.
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That IS the point.

Are there any novels where the protagonist frequently spills his spaghetti? Bonus points for autism
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>>8579082
Crime and Punishment
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The Trial
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The Idiot

What contemporary novel has made you rethink society and your view on life? Something that really upended the way you think of matters. I mean that for example, reading dostoievsky is interesting, but while some of his insights are eternally human and interesting many aspects of his theology and philosophy are outdated and irrelevant as we are living in a different time, in a different society and around different technologies.

What contemporary book have you read that really blew your mind?
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>contemporary
i dont read trash
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>>8579077
After reading Blood Meridian I came to the realization that no other work of art can compare and since then I've devoted my life to shitposting.
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>>8579077
None of them because they're written for retards and usually by retards.

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Hey guys, it's me, the 2016 Nobel Laureate in Literature. How's everyone doing today?
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A yellow nigger as president?
Next they'll be allowed to ride on the bus!
How uncouth.
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>>8578934
>Japanese
>literature

since when are light novels considered actual /lit/?
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new fone, who dis?

true nobel incoming

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Can someone help? I'm doing personal endings for conjugations right now in latin.

I don't understand when you stress a vowel and when you don't.

It just switches off between stressed unstressed when the active personal endings are added without explanation.
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>>8578901
>>/int/
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>what are macrons
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>>8578901
stresses are a waste of time in latin and attic greek (prove me wrong)
sure you sometimes need to stress to know the case of a noun but desu you'll figure that out with context.

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Do you know any self-help books that are worth reading?
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7 Habits was pretty good, but very repetitive and beats a dead horse with examples.

I want to read Carnegie. I also read leadership books occasionally for work.
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This Is How by Augusten Burroughs
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>>8577316
I always thought 7 Pillars of Wisdom was a self help book based off the title alone.

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This year the prize is mine.
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>>8576425
Overrated. Like Japanese films, it LOOKS like a novel but there's really no content. It's pure imitation of American or European models without anything inside, like a replicant out of Philip K Dick.
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>>8576443
>le japanese have no soul meme
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>>8576454
Who's vivisecting whom, again?

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Its Halloween fuckers. Post your reading lists for this month.
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>>8574504
Halloween isn't a season, you nigger.
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>>8574523
Its a whole month as far as i'm concerned faggot [and lit needs an excuse to read genre fiction from time to time]
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>>8574504
Finishing Grapes of Wrath today.
Next is For the Common Good followed by Beyond Growth.
A reread of Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Maybe I'll be able to start One Hundred Years of Solitude

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What is the most beautiful book ever written?
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>>8572921
The Silmarillion.

It's like The Bible but with better prose and a deeper mythology.
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>>8572921
I saw images like this one in the pages of Water Pater's Marius the Epicurean.
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My diarrhea desu

I honestly never read anything he ever wrote, but he's pretty much Stirner at this point. Every person that has an opinion gets called out as "PURE IDEALOGY" instead of "SPOOKS"
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>>8597113
>but he's pretty much Stirner at this point.
Mein Gott, take a look at that pure ideology.
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>>8597113
>Every person that has an opinion gets called out as "PURE IDEALOGY" instead of "SPOOKS"
is this post from 2014?
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>>8597124
no, why?

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What is /lit's reading speed?

Personally I read about 200 pages per hour.
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>>8596074

hahahaha
>reading anything less that 400
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I read Infinite Jest 3 times per hour
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>>8596074
I read "In Search of Lost Time" in fourteen minutes.

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The girl, i have a crush on, gave me this book.

What am i in for?

She is really shy and always talks about how she loves horses. I only know, that nietzsche once saved a horse from its owners punishment.

What does it all mean?
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>>8595330
>horse girl
S T E E R C L E A R
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Anon, this is not a joke, this is not haha funny ebin 4chan memes, this is serious serious serious shit. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT (and once more for emphasis, DOOOO NOOOOOT!!!) have ANYTHIG to do with horse girls. There are so many reasons for STEERING CLEAR that I LITERALLY don't have enough time on this planet to explain them all. But please please just trust me that horse girls are to be AVOIDED AT ALL COST
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She's obviously trying to sabotage your intellect because you would grossly misinterpret the text without proper prerequisite understanding.
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>>8595359
although I dont have personal experience, but the "horse girls are crazy" meme is a legit thing.
Just don't fuckin do it. read the book. thank her. get on with your life.

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Who are some of the most autist philosophers?
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Kneechee
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>>8594993
Nopenhauer
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Schopenhauer, he's r9k the philosopher.


It's why I love him

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Quantum Storytelling

Landscapes
Timescapes
Materialscapes

the collective enterprise iS adaptive to its Environment, which is also changing
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Where can I read more
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Alchemy is complex
Sychronicity is your friend
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Usage of the word "quantum" outside of a physics discussion indicates a retard. Or, rarely, a conman.

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What is a good read from your country?
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If someone can name a good piece of Australian literature you're a legend.
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>>8596803
Love Irvine, He's some boy
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Why does /lit/ have a problem with Penguin Books?
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Poor quality

Poor qualityPoor qualityPoor qualityPoor qualityPoor niggersPoor qualityPoor qualityPoor quality
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/lit/ likes penguin books desu
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Their paperbacks are alright. I like the black spine design. So they absorbed Random House right? Is everything published under the Penguin name now or is Random House still a functioning entity?

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Disagree with Harold Bloom on some point in this thread.
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>>8595728
Everything he said about Bloodmeme and Corncob tortillas YeCarthy is patently retarded.
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>>8595728

Dosto had talent
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i probably appreciate ws burroughs more than he does


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