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What's some good Japanese Lit?
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shishosetsu
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not Murakami
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Mishima. Start with "The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea"

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What is lit's favourite book series cover design?
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the old penguin classics from like 1997
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Old Wordsworth blue series

Simple and good looking, not like the newer black ones with horseshit images on them
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>>8535098
cf

I mean for fucks sake, am I about to buy a YA or what

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Whatsapp group anyone? Let's create one and discuss why Stirner was a hack
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That's the painting that is just in front of the Mona Lisa, right?
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>>8533890
yes
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>>8533845
lost it at the Thoms in the painting

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>/lit/ is for the discussion of literature
>/lit/ likes to read
>half the posts are from people asking if they should read a 300 pages book
>should
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>>8533787
This is what pisses me off about this board the most. Half the posts are people asking if "x is a good book". Read the book and find out yourself.
THEN come here to discuss why you thought "x was a good/bad book".
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/lit/ threads:
>[picture of book] Discuss.
>[picture of book] What did /lit/ think of this?
>[picture of book] Should I read this?
>What's your favorite desk to read on?
>What's your favorite bookshelf color?
>Hardcover or softcover?
>Do you read while sitting down or standing up?
>What's your favorite letter...
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>>8533803
That just simply doesn't work.
Pepe shitposting kills those slow threads

Why are books the only 2nd hand item that is fine having? And not clothes or cookware or whatnot?

>inb4 hippies and hipsters
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>>8533750
They aren't. Guns are also fine second-hand. As are most other things that can be antiques.
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>>8533758
>guns

lol amerika

>antiques

thats the point of having them, u dumb fatass.
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yump

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Here is a short story i am working on. what do you think? comments and criticisms welcome. Sorry it isn't edgetastic self aggrandizing memoirizing fuckery. I know how much you guys like that stuff :|

The Green and the Blue

Pt.1
She hated picking flowers. The snap of the stem. The taking of a sweet life in bloom. The slow, inevitable decay of a pretty corpse trapped in glass. Her passion lay in the growing of life. Nurturing little things. Dirty finger nails on coarse fingers. Succulent green shoots peeking from the dirt in spring. She hated picking flowers.
The little girl was half French and half Italian. When she was twelve years old, the fascists took Rome in a storm of cheers and stuffed ballot boxes, Daddy had packed up the family and moved to Provence, to a little farm community far away from the crowds and fanfare of a Europe bursting with change and fear. Those few years before the war came were the little girl's most treasured memory. Her Daddy had been a factory man, with mangled fingers and a bent back, but in Provence he had blossomed as a farmer. His wife, a slight French woman, dutifully joined him in the tilling of the earth, but the little girl knew her heart was back in Italy. Momma missed the crowds and hubbub, the shoes and the coffee. Her three brothers seemed to be indifferent. They were more concerned with matters of sport and fancy.
Every morning, as the yolk golden sun peaked over the long, green horizon, the little girl woke and rushed through her house chores so she could join her parents in the humble field right outside their comfy if somewhat cramped clap board cottage. Momma always tasked her with pulling the weeds. Tear them out and throw them in a pile, that was the standing order, but the weeds always had delicate yellow flowers, so she would take the time to gently dig them from the earth, scrape the dirt from tender roots, and hide them in her apron pocket. As her sweaty family would troop to the back of the cottage for a quick cold lunch, she would scurry down the slow slope in the front of the manner and into the stand of trees where Daddy's bees lazily buzzed away the day looking for sweet, living flowers. In this speck of forest the little girl had her own farm plot; rows and rows of transplanted weeds, growing slower in the shade than they did in the sun. Her furrows were perfect, and the little plants were evenly spaced at the top of the mounds that were heaped between the troughs. She was diligent in her tending, but she never had the time to really sit back and gaze at her secret glebe.
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>>8533720
stupid
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>2
Life was calm and the world carried on its hullabaloo, paying the little farming family no mind. For a brief time, they forgot all about the fascists and the French and the sharp clop of well polished boots on ageless cobbled streets. But one day in spring of the fourth year of their sojourn the little girl's eldest brother came racing over the horizon from the direction of the town. The family waited a full two inutes for him to catch his breathe. There was a war, he said, and it was spreading and the French had lost almost as soon as...
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>>8533726
what absolute twaddle. post your autist biography faggot

>3
When the not so little girl saw this not quite boy, a bolt of lightning from the blue sky pierced her heart and turned her insides to steam. She felt cold and hot all over and hid her face in her tiny, dirty hands. Through splayed fingers she stared at him, and he back at her. His eyes flashed like the glint off of a bayonet and his cheeks reddened in embarrassment. In their own ways, the both felt stricken with love...
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Does anyone have this book in hardcover?

If so, do me a favor? I realize this is an odd request, but I want to know if it's well bound or just glued. Can you take a picture of the top edge of the book, near the spine?

Would appreciate it. Thanks.
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In the meantime, feel free to discuss the book.
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>>8533687
Everyman's uses the Maude translation so go with that one.
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>>8533687
Bartlett's version came out at the same time as Schwartz'. Bartlett refashions Tolstoy much like Garnett, and other translators. They remove his repeated phrases and epithets and replace them with synonyms.

I'd recommend reading Schwartz' because hers was edited in part by the guy who wrote the article about the "peaverization of russian lit" or whatever it was called. If he endorses her translation (he also wrote an introduction for her) then I will go with that one.

Besides,...
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They just managed to transplant the head of a dog to another body. Is this the final proof that God does not exist?

http://www.surgicalneurologyinternational.com/video/sni_338_16I15176.mp4
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Yes.
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God has nothing to do with such perverted sexual practices.
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I dont think the question of a higher power comes into this at all. the ideas of science mix very well into some ideas of Christianity, Judaism etc.

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Anyone else reading this at the moment? Just finish it? Bout to start?

Currently 200 pages in and loving it.

This is my first Gaddis. I have The Recognitions, but a few people here said JR was a good place to start. No regrets so far. Did anyone read The Recognitions first? How does JR hold up?
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>>8533657
>needing other people to tell you if a book is enjoyable
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>>8533676
bad post
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J R is better. If you're digging it, just stay the course.

> free will is following your desires within the bounds of your physical and mental limits
> you dont chose your desires or physical and mental limits
> expanding those limits (like getting stronger) is merely a desire you couldnt help but have trumping another (the desire to be physically attractive finally beating out the desire to eat garbage food in bed all day)

Have any writers credibly refuted determinism?
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how is determinism not a comforting lie?
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>>8533536
wow omg that picture made me really think it makes me think

woooowwww BOOKS N SHEET MAKES ME THINK
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>>8533536
Dostoevsky in the underground man

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>Peter Sotos
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>>8533521
It's true, raping a child is like pozzing, it's fun to watch the rest of their life as your act takes it's toll and they become "the weird kid" that eveyone hates for existing, and whose parents hate for being alive, and whose one single positive quality that they're incapable of moving beyond is that they got to have sex before everyone else.
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>>8533521
Are these from "Answer Me!"?

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>the duality of man
Is this some sort of meaningless phrase pseuds use to sound deep? I can't imagine it meaning anything non-retarded
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>>8533499
How can the animal that created the Symphony, also orchestrate the Holocaust?
:(
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>>8533499
The Bible teaches duality — man is composed of body and soul that exist together harmoniously. This is different from dualism — body and soul are opposed to one another. We must be careful to take care of our bodies by eating well, exercising, and such things, because how we care for ourselves reflects what we think about God’s image. Consider how you care for yourself and what you must do to be healthy and glorify God with your lifestyle.
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>>8533530
that's not what people mean when they say "the duality of man"

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I recently posted about how there is some serious bullshit going on in my English literature course in Sweden and got called out as a liar.

Here is an excerpt from my A-course schedule in English Literature.

"You should also become aware of some of the most well known critical approaches to literature, such as feminist criticism. Marxist criticism and postcolonial criticism. You will find short descriptions of some approaches in the compendium."

So now my question, is there any serious literature courses that focus on actual ENGLISH literature...
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SWEDEN YES
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>>8533459
I got a stem degree because it's almost impossible to politicize and provides job opportunities. I study literature on my own time so I can do it the way I want. I can hold my own in discussions with my friends that are taking lit degrees.
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>>8533459
>some serious bullshit going on
>short descriptions of some approaches

wear a tinfoil hat, they'll never get to you then.

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>all books with the word "American" in the title are pure crap
What are some other unwritten literary rules?
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>The Americans
>American Pastoral
>The American way of Death
>The Making of Americans
>Narrative Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave

sorry the USA rustles your jimmies, classicsfag
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>>8533411
Explain this then.
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>>8533436
It's America, not American, so it's an exception.

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>sci fi book set more than 50 years/far in the future
>There are still old people
>sometimes aging/avoiding aging is even a plot point
Why do they do this? How do they not realize how stupid that is?
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>>8533268
It's almost like eternal life and eternal youth have been ideas that have plagued man's conscience for all of time.
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>>8533313
But in the future aging will be solved. It makes no fucking sense to do things like time travel or other conceptual super-advanced things in a sci-fi and then pretend the same civilization hasn't already solved aging. Aging is not as complex as FTL or creating matter from nothing etc etc., it's a thing we will DEFINITELY fix. So why use it as a plot point? It's like making a sci-fi in the '95 and making it a plot point that gif's take 10 minutes to load in a story set in 2040
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>>8533268
I'm not one of those >tattoos faggots but this girl would be a 10/10 without those hip tattoos

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What is the /lit/ point of view towards this? According to IMDB "the best book i have read in the last 5 years"
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It has some fun little bits, but way to bloated with little payoff.

>NIGGERS!
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It's shit. Very few King books aren't, but it's shit on a special level.
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first 3/4ths are interesting, and then it drops off very quickly

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is the "too" unnecessary in this quote?
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>>8533100
Semantically yes, but removing it changes the rhythm significantly.
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>>8533100
It gives a better sense of reciprocation. He is arguably being positive about those few times when she did love him.
Anyway...
>translation
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>>8533100
no. Implying that you loved someone doesnt mean they loved you as well.

ITT: momcore / BBCRadio4-core books
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>>8533076
Bend her over and fuck her in an alley while one of her friends watches and does nothing about it.
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>>8533076
tell her your too busy reading The TimeTravelers Wife's Striped Pajama Bone Clock

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What the fuck is up with this book and its run on sentences?

Its hard enough to follow whats going on with its dull, even pace that doesn't vary depending on whats happening, and sometimes you lose track and not realize someone has died, and no quotation marks which jut makes it more confusing and when the characters don't emote like they are some kind of weird sociopathic characters that don't react like human beings and although I think the language is beautiful it really paints a picture that tugs at my heart strings I mean im sitting on the train reading...
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So? Just kill yourself and you won't be have to worry about it.
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punctuation is a social construct
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Run on sentences don't exist.
It's just some shit made up because Americans are retards and can't remember more than 5 words.

As long as a sentence is grammatically correct there is no impetus for your thought to end

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I want to read the 4 gospels.
What order is the best?
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>>8532973
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.
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>>8532973
mark, matthew and luke, john
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>>8532973
Mark, John, Matthew, Luke. This is the correct order!

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Just bought the complete collections of H.P. Lovecraft. Any suggested starting point(s) with either short stories or novel(s)?
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>>8532955
Herbert West: Reanimator is underrated
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>>8532955
>Any suggested starting point(s)
A bin.
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would have been better off eating the money you spent on those books

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>The incompetence of the American military
>Blind Japanese samurai and a Japanese otaku 2chan poster
>Stupid concepts like quislings and feral children
>Rich people now shovel poo and poor people now run society (cause all rich people are useless and never earned their way and all poor people aren't lazy and on welfare)
>Israel is best rael
>Is North Korea in a tunnel just hiding out or...
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zombies was never a good genre in the first place
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>>8532974
Zombies are good as environmental hazards, I would hazard to say
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You left one of the worst parts of thw book though, that guy who sold fake medicine with no fucks given and then got to chill without a care. That and muh japonese made me cringe.

But in the end it's just dumb fun. It's like insulting dresden files, sure it's shit but it's entertaining shit.

Do you guys read your hardcovers with the dust jacket on, or take it off and put it back on when finished?
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>R: 0
I knew none of you faggots actually read books, this just confirms.
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i use one of the flaps as a bookmark
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>spending extra money on hardcover books

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Why do people say he supported Pol Pot without ever actually quoting him or citing it?
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>>8532864

He claimed the death tolls under Pol Pot's regime were exagerrated/etc. Usual anti-Western spiel from Chomsky.

Then he had to eat his words when it came to light that the Khmer Rouge were actually as bad as they seemed.
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>>8532889
>people who don't have 100% of the information make bad decisions!!!
>we who have all of the information on the past are superior people

Are you retarded?
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>>8532895
>people who don't have 100% of the information make bad decisions!!!
accurate information on the Khmer Rouge was already available, he only rejected it because of his flawed ideology

>Are you retarded?
you can't read

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Dear /lit/,

I need to read the Infinite Jest, and I need the perfect edition. Which of these, would you say, is the better?

https://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Jest-Novel-20th-Anniversary/dp/0316306053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474454906&sr=8-1&keywords=Infinite+Jest

https://www.amazon.com/Infinite-David-Foster-Wallace-2006-11-13/dp/B017YC3FRG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1474454906&sr=8-2&keywords=Infinite+Jest

(Ofc more editions are always welcome)
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Shameless self-bump
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By far the second one.

The white cover is ugly as fuck and the blue cover is the classic meme edition that is instantly recognisable on someone's shelf.
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Get the pdf from whichever pirate site of your choice, print several volumes and use a binder for each volume. It will make it easier. And you will not look like a cunt when reading it outside.

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I'm planning on writing a book. I'm 21 years old and I'm aware that it will take a long ass time to make with no guarantee it well publish or sell. Advice? Thoughts?
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Write a shit ton of short stories instead. It will hone your story telling skills (plot, characterization, how to write dialogue that does sound retarded) and give you feedback on whats good and what sucks.

Then ,when you have enough life experience to write a decent novel, you can bang it out quick.
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write some short stuff and get it published in magazines or on a webzone so you can establish yourself as a writer and not just some dude that wrote a book
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Work every day, if only a little.

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Come at me, bro
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Apparently actual scholars of the New Testament and historians of Christianity consider his thesis old and discredited, and his book little more than pop history entertainment
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>>8532761
You would be far better off with Geza Vermes, Bart Ehrman (his earlier less clickbaity stuff), Burton Mack, Elaine Pagels, or Luke Timothy Johnson if you want some faith in your historical-critical analysis.

As a layman having read the stuff above and more, this book is walking an old old road, and I have heard a bit of this >>8532777 as well.

The only reason this sold well was because some bitch on fox news called him a a pig fucking muslim.
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>>8532795
Well she was right to be fair.

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Sup, /lit/?

I think my German is good enough now for me to read some good poetry in original. Can you recommend some good stuff? Collections or anthologies? And which German publishers have the best editions?

Thanks.

Pic semi-related.
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For feels:
Rainer Maria Rilke

Easy fun:
Heinz Erhardt

Harder, but valuable:
Goethe

High school tier:
Schiller's Die Glocke and Goethe's Prometheus

Depri tier:
Trakl, Celan (Todesfuge)
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>>8532757
Thanks.

I might start with Rilke because of the feels.

Reclam Universal-Bibliothek has a collection of his poems for around 7 Euros. Is that publisher shit? It looks like German Wordsworth Classics, but I may be wrong.
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>>8532775
Reclam is great.

Also you might wanna check out Heinrich Heine, he can be really funny and I think he's fairly easy to read.

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It's only a couple weeks away. Who's it gonna be?
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chinchon for bleeding edgelord
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A black female.
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>>8532730
an asian shemale.

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>Mass Market Paperback: $11
>Hardcover: $500
Goddammit.
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no need
to blaspheme
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>>8532726
Woooo, high-five for my fellow hardcover-fag
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>>8532726
Buy the paperback, cut off the paper back and put a hardcover on it.


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