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So I want to start writing with the intent to have work published. One thing I keep seeing come up is to start with short stories. Problem is I haven't read many short stories. What are some good collections of short stories I should read?
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Don't read any. It will only negatively influence your style. Best to remain pure and adjunct.
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>>8528274
coming from a musical background I disagree. I listen to all kinds of music but the music I make all has a specific sound unique to me.

You have to imitate before you can originate.
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>>8528268
It varies wildly depending on where you want to submit them. In general, I'd actually say don't start writing a story on your own if you're aiming for magazine publication, look at what whichever one you're submitting to is looking for in their next issue and try to write that.

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>people will defend this
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>gay sex with hats on
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I fail to see the problem
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only if it smells like vanilla

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>no philosophy

why
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Bloom's too dumb to understand philosophy, dummy.
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philosophy belongs to a different canon obv
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>>8528249
philosophy is for manchildren and autists like >>8528272

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>I here you
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Punching out
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>should of
>would of
>could of
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>pluralizing words and acronyms with apostrophe + 's' instead of just an s

Am i the only one who thinks Delilo is Pynchon-done-right while DFW was just an imitation of the worse parts of both?
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If those are the only three authors you've read then yes I can see why you would think that.
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>>8528239
Not even kidding, Underworld is shit
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>>8528248
i read joyce too.
what does that make me?

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ITT: Books/series only you have read
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>24000 ratings on goodreads
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>>8528051
Lol this shit is Dad-core
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Bottoms meme is actually pretty good
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>>8528042
What do you like about it?
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>>8528090
um... I like that it's a really big book, and it's really abstract and avant garde! You wouldn't understand unless you payed 50 dollars for it.
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>>8528090
It's really hard to understand. And whenever I take it to the coffee shop I always have to wait for the big couch to clear up so I can read it.

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So, I really want to read books like gravity's rainbow, but is it really hard even for really experienced readers?
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Just read it you little queerbait
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>>8527937
Homophobic disgustoid donald trumpo
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>>8527932
I ordered the penguin edition with the blue cover from Amazon and got this (pic related), it's aight, but seems about as durable as your pic related.
anyways, I haven't read it. Just read it, don't be a puss boi

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/lit/
I need help to understand internet language

I've been out for a while and now everyone is write "t."
what the fuck does t. mean?
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>>8527857
>and now everyone is write "t."
fuck
I'm hiigh
i tried my bet
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t. embryo
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it's finnish not internet. >>>/int/

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Opinions on pic related?
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>>8527847
we don't read him. we've only read Hunger. we thought it was okay.
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>>8527870
:(
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>>8527905
and by we I mean like 3 people.

how hard is to win a literary prize?
how hard is to reach literary genius status?
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Pretty difficult since it's basically a dead/dying artistic endeavour.

Literary prize and literary genius aren't mutually constitutive.
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>>8527727
what makes it dificult?
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>>8527735
You can't spell difficult for a start

Is there a book where societal norms, human sociology, societal laws, and human expectations don't apply? I'm looking for a book that portrays a civilization outside of these things, outside of human behavior, outside of human thought, a sort of strange civilization, if not a utopia, or something where depravity and strangeness occurs, but where human prejudice and rules and expectations don't apply.
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>>8527670
my diary desu
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>>8527670
J.G. Ballard is set in contemporary times but this is a good description of his works. Try High Rise or Crash.
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uh, naked lunch?

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What are some worthwhile novels of the 20th/21st century?
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>>8527645
Ulysses
Gravity's Rainbow
Infinite Jest
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>>8527645
The art of the deal.
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>>8527656
>novels
so it's fiction?

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I'm about to read this. What am I in for, /lit/? After reading so much depressive shit, its refreshing to pick up a light-hearted comedy filled with laffs
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>>8527479
its boring
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I have the john ciardi edition, but I feel it's the sort of book that requires annotations, so I feel I'd need to buy the norton critical edition or something.
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>>8527479
>tfw John and Dante are the only 2 humans to ever have visited heaven

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>tfw you read every one of these
>tfw this series is now less relevant than warhammer 40k novels
god is this embarrassing
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>>8527445

why should a book's relevance matter in regards to your enjoyment (or lack thereof) of that book?
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>>8527445
>the obvious point where the publisher stopped trying to reel in her rambling shit
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>>8527445
i dont regret it, but ill never read them again

What's a book which is just like one enormous, deeply sarcastic statement?
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>>8527431

Notes from Underground
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>>8527431
I havent even read him but gaddis. Id bet my life on this as the best answer
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>>8527431
The Present Age

Kierkegaard ends the book with 'haha, I was just kidding.'

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how did diogenes get cucked out cynicism becoming mainstream. why did stoicism make it big
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stop saying cucked
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>>8527366
it's the appropriate usage because he saw a philosophy he influenced blow up. i believe it was the real reason for his suicide
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Cynacism without hedonism is just autism.

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Is this the face of /lit/?
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>>8527254
No, it's the face of /pol/, but they don't realize it.
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>>8527254
No, he's actually intelligent.
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>>8527268
>>8527281
both of these combined

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What's the best cyperpunk novel out there?
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>>8527217
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
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Honestly I think the best is the Sprawl trilogy
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Sprawl and Bridge are good trilogies

I still don't get it
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>>8527187
kys
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>>8527187
you are the black dot
you are smart
you consider your options
you recognize the flaw in all of them (the fatal flaw, that precludes you from doing it)
in inaction, you commit the worst flaw of all

don is the red dot
he does not consider his options
he refuses to see the flaw in his actions
in action, he is cleansed of all sin
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>>8527234
Thx

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Pay no attention to the criticism of people who have never themselves written a notable work.
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What if their criticism is a notable work?
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>>8527173
Then pay attention to it.
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>>8527173

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> Pic related

Pro tip: You can't /lit/
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>>8527156
we all know where this is going...
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>>8527156
what translation is this, you slut?
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>>8527179
"Pevear and Volokhonsky" my nice citizen. Take care.

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Okay /lit/ this is my first time posting but really needed an answer!
I've read through the 7 Game of Thrones books several times (mostly loved them) and you'll prob know that it's been ages since the last one.
A friend of mine online just mentioned to me that GRRMartin has actually stopped writing to work on writing the script for the series!
My question is is this true at all and is there any news on when he will resume the book!?
I know GoT is popular so apologies if this is a common question/ thread.
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Goethe's Faust
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GRRM is—if not yet physically—at the very least mentally and emotionally dead

its best to treat the series as it stands now as COMPLETE, any work he releases at this point would be even more putrid and puerile than his latest work
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>>8527101
Why would you come here to ask that? Go look at his blog, for Christ's sake. And no, he isn't writing any more scripts, and Winds of Winter should be out in March (they've delayed the start of the next season of the show for it). The final book will never be completed by Martin.

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fuck
i was having a good time
with burgers
a people like that
that tell me to live in north korea
and that human nature
don't fit with the good Marx
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>>8527021
Nice deterritorialized rhizomatic flowing virtual revolutionary active differential chaosmotic poem-post there anon.
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Communism looks good on paper.
What about human nature, ever think of that?
Move to North Korea if you don't like capitalism.
You see, under communism everyone's equally poor.
Bread lines
Venezuela

Alright thread can be closed again.
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>>8527032
:*
love anon

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on the level of Derrida, Deleuze, Focault etc.?
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He's doing stuff that is very different from the guys you mentioned. To me, it's like asking if Federer is better than Woods. He's among the very best the analytic tradition of philosophy has produced and by the way a writer of very entertaining, simple but elegant and often greatly funny prose.
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>>8526982
better. Because the problems he worked on were far more interesting
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but isn't Quine's writing basic?

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I'm a poetry pleb, please help me to be patrician.
Suggest and recommend some God-tier work.
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WB Yeats is king
also Wallace Stevens
some of Conrad Aiken

and i adore John Clare, not sure how God-Tier he is considered but he's one of my faves
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>>8526983

Keats and Shelley too

honestly just buy some anthologies and figure out who you like that way
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>>8526890
Buy an anthology and look further into those who stand out to you. I do the same thing with philosophical movements I'm interested in.

Just got the Modern Library anthology of the American Transcendentalist movement. I'm pumped.

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Are there any successful authors on this board?

I have a good idea for a novel. I figure since it's got a catchy story and can be built into a series it's my only chance at not having a 9-5 wageslave job and potentially being rich one day. Right now I'm at 16,000 words. I figure if I just work on it all I can until I'm finished then I'll just have to edit and get as much feedback as I can.

What are the chances of making money off of a novel after finishing? What are the chances of getting a literary agent? Is there anybody on /lit/ that...
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hey its me, Thomas Pynchon
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>>8526889

I think a few of us will emerge eventually but we're mostly in our early 20's.
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>>8526889
Getting a book published is tough. Think about it like going to a city like Nashville or Austin, both absolutely crawling with talented amateur musicians. Most of these musicians are at least good enough for a few dollars at the door, and a good amount of those are on the level of signed/touring bands.

Obviously, the problem goes beyond just money. Its who gives enough of a fuck to listen to all of that music, even if it is all good? Publishers aren't going to be impressed if you're a good writer - there are plenty of good writers - they want your work to either be marketable or groundbreaking, two things that are a lot harder than good.

Good luck OP. This isn't meant to be discouraging, but its a tough industry Think about how many should-be classics sit in bargain bins because nobody bought them.

If you're serious about it, start self-advertising online when you're close to the end of a good draft. Release your best chapter early and get your friends to follow you on Facebook/twitter. If it seems like your book will be easier to sell, that's a significant leg up on your competition.

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One person writes a short story and then we all work together revising it.
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>>8526855
I think it would have been better if you provided the short story, OP, or if you were never born at all.
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buump
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A drink of water. AH hA haha ha, never dwelt a drop of water that quarrelsome. NEedless to say, it's only a matter of time.

Whats the best place to watch Shakespeare plays on the Internet? I want to watch the play while i read along.
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>>8526850
YouTube?
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>>8526850

Can you keep one eye on the page and one in the screen at the same time?
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>>8526895
Any particular channel in mind?

>>8526942
I can probably switch fast enough between them

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Opinion on the work of Plato?
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thats da vinci
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>>8526832
No its Pynchon, depicted next to dave foster wallace who is cut out of the frame.
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right about literally everything desu


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