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bamp
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>>8519330
>as an entire group of people can be looked at as a biologically flawed quantum computer.
the most reddit statement in existence
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>people can be looked at as a biologically flawed quantum computer
Stopped reading here. A bunch of fashionable buzzwords attributed to very well known things.

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Anywhere is the world to get by with minimal money?
So reading can be a priority again.
Make reading great again.
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>>8519324
Not literature related

Go back to /r9k/

Sage and report
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Macedonia and Albania are pretty cheap and safe.
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Maybe Scandinavia.

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Hey /lit/

I just became "living in a car" homeless and decided, fuck it I can just travel the nation. What writers do you think I should try to meet and what state or city do they live in? Harlan Ellison is one of my favourites and he's already offered to meet me but I want to meet people /lit/ likes, not just m heroes, and maybe post some rewarding photo evidence for everyone over the next couple weeks.

Maybe I can record a video of me calling Franzen an "audience pussy"?
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sounds pretty fun desu. make sure to do acid with tao lin.
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>>8519319
how do you contact a writer?
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>>8519325

As far as I know Tao lives in New York, right? Great suggestion, I can do that. I was in Virginia but I'm in Kansas today. Ill be happy to do Tao soon but if some other people could suggest other NY writers I could knock multiple out in one trip rather than have to go back.

Have you ever gotten 50 pages into a book, realized you're not going to like/ enjoy it, but power through just so you can pad your goodreads with it? If so, what book? Also, other than reading children's stories like Dr. Seuss and pocket poetry books, what are some quick ways to increase my "read" shelf (I have already added virtually 100 books from preschool and upwards but want to diversify so it's not obvious what I'm doing)?
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>>8519285
who are you trying to impress with your goodreads account?
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>>8519285
This is why I don't have a Goodreads account, and why I deleted my RYM accound - because I don't want to consume art for the sake of others who does the same

you should only worry about the art you consume, not what others think about the art you consume
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>>8519285
I hate to intrude on your insanity, but you know you can just list any book you want and claim to have read it, right? If you're just trying to impress some hypothetical bespectacled college girl.

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I am going to recap what's happened up to page 248 in my copy of mobi dick, and I want people to tell me if there's some big themes that I've missed. I mean, I get what's happening in the story, but it seems like a lot of the deeper overarching themes are pretty much going over my head. If you could help tell me what some of the themes leading up to the part I'm at right now are, that'd be great.

ishmael introduces himself. he decides that he doesn't want to sail out of new hampture, but instead wants to sail out of nantucket because...
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On the nights leading up to shipping out, they stayed in a small inn somewhere that was recommended by the owner of the coffin inn, and while there they had to tear down a door, because quequeg was meditating and fasting all day in one position, and they thought that he had committed suicide because someone who had stayed in that inn before committed suicide and quequeg's speer was missing from downstairs, but it turned out that he was just fasting. Before they left for the ship, a strange man came up and warned ishmael and quequeg about the journey, and the prophecy that...
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>>8519241
>mobi
is this a meme or what?
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>>8519958
Oh shit, mobi is a book file format. It's moby isn't it.

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what is the point of a text being written in verse, meter or rhyming scheme?
I'm reading Goethe's Faust right now and the childish rhyming robs it of all dignity, and I don't understand how any of this is desirable

pic unrelated
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>>8519188
you're reading it in the original german I presume?
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>>8519188
You're probably reading Goethe in a shitty translation. If so, just stop.

If not, you are just a pleb who can't appreciate the true genius that someone like Goethe tells us a story of epic proportions and does so in a highly stylised manner. In your pleb opinion, Dante and Homer are probably shit too.

>pic unrelated
Your dubs beg to differ.
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>>8519188
Rhyming is completely different to metre. Milton, the writer of the greatest poem in the English language, wrote this:

>THE Measure is English Heroic Verse without Rime, as that of Homer in Greek, and Virgil in Latin; Rhime being no necessary Adjunct or true Ornament of Poem or good Verse, in longer Works especially, but the Invention of a barbarous Age, to set off wretched matter and lame Meeter; grac't indeed since by the use of some famous modern Poets, carried away by Custom,...
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so has anyone actually seen god or heaven or hell and can prove that they exist? If god could be proven to exist, wouldn't there be no more religions, because there would be no faith, it could just be factually verifiable?
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>>8519186
Oh wow! Eureka! You've discovered what so many people have already. why did you start this thread?
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>>8519194
Fuck off name fag
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>>8519186
>implying Catholics are the same as Baptists or Presbyterians
They all believe in God, just different somehow.

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Are there any books that have actually scared you? None of this gore crap.
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>>8519184
He's big influence for Hillary.
The gore is only implied. Pure, real, terror.
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>>8519184
Hate to say it but pet sematary scared the shit out of me. I did read it when i was really young so could just be the adolescent mind.
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>>8519239
It feels like most of the top horror stories come from Stephen King, but honestly it just feels like normie hype.

I just ordered a hard cover copy of infinite jest. Are you mad?
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>>8519150
thats gay
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no

enjoy your read friend
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>>8519150
not mad, but you have wasted your money

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i know you also need grammar books, etc. but lets say im learning german. is it better to watch german tv with english subtitles. or english language tv with german subtitles? and will either actually help in conjuction with duolingo/grammar books/studying/etc.?

sorry i know this is a kind of frequent post but couldnt find one or anythjng on the wiki.
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german tv with english subtitles and yes enough that it's worth doing
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Don't use books or websites or anything. Just live it. Learn the way children learn: by using it as your only means of communication with anyone.
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>>8519149
how would i do that in philadelphia?

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Where is the depository of all the worthwhile books? It was separated into folders like "Russian lit" and "Sci Fi." Does anybody have those links?
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I already checked the stick btw, theres nothing.
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Google libgen
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>>8519132
>all the worthwhile books
wut

you talking about the old foler links from sharethreads?

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For me, it's pic related. I lived in complete anguish for half a year afterwards.
>not even Dylar can help us
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Just wait til you get to Mao II desu
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>>8519086
>fucked you up
In a good or bad way? Cuz some books can fuck you up in a good way too. Pic related.
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>>8519086
wow le consumerist culture is destructive!!

Anyone here excited about this? Is there a leaked version maybe?
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>>8519083
Libcuck trash
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>>8519111
>Norm
>libcuck

nice b8
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>>8519174
>tricked into thinking Norm Macdonald is republican
funny stuff

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Where do I start with him? Is there a flow chart? I own GR, TCoL49, M&D, and Vineland.
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V. -> Lot 49 -> GR -> M&D

The other ones aren't worth it
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>>8519037
what about ATD?
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>>8519079
Half is up to snuff, the other drags. If Pynchon's your boy, I'd say it's maybe worth it, but I'd just reccomend moving on to other postmodern lit at that point.

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I recently read The Master and Margarita, which I really liked. Let's talk about it.

Did you like it?

Are Bulgakov's other books worth reading?
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just got done it not so long ago, i loved it so much it became one of my favs. i couldnt put it down. Koroviev was the man
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>>8518948
Pontius Pilate was a prefect not a procurator, book dismissed.
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It was cheesy and disappointing

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Fiction at its best is literally just baby tier philosophy with "muh pretty words" to try to make up for it. Prove me wrong.
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>>8518932
Everything is just 'muh something'
Prove me wrong
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>>8518932
Agreed. Literature should not be taught in schools.
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>>8518932

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharsis

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How do I into Gnosticism?

What's the primary text(s) I should be working with, and what is the best secondary source on said primary source?
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Radical Gnosticism is possibly the most terrifying idea of all time. Make sure you can handle it.
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>>8518922
Christian gnosticism or gnosticism in general?
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>>8518960
What is 'Radical Gnosticism?'

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Hey /lit/, does an autobiography written by a fictional character count as an autobiography if I enter a contest for autobiographies?
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>>8518863
>if I enter a contest for autobiographies
>Of a fictional character
You'd be disqualified.

It doesn't matter if this is a blue board or not, you can't stay/post if you're under age ;)
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Only if you're James Frey.
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>>8518863
No. But why tell?

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So , knowing how concerned he was about the image about himself that he was projecting. Can we assume that all of his essays are probably works of fiction too?
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>>8518847
Kinda hard to fake Consider the Lobster desu

I guess the conversation in the taxi could be
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>>8518862
Im pretty sure that 90% of "a supposedly fun thing..." Is pure bullshit

I bet that he never leaved his room
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he wrote comic realism, even his essays were a bit comically exaggerated

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I sent my novel out to ten beta readers, it is a chick lit novel, with some subversive elements slipped in. My beta readers were the target audience of 18-24 year old women. So their remarks totally ignore the nuance and genius of the work. Instead, they were like, the characters not likeable enough. 'the plot moves too fast' 'not enough character change' 'no overriding motivation' 'show dont tell' 'every scene needs a conflict'. I am so confused what to do because none of the novels in the canon meet the requirements of their...
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It's not because books in the canon break those rules that yours starts off at the same level as the classics. They were breaking rules with mastery, while you might just be oblivious to those rules.
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>>8518829
>letting betas read your books
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>>8518829
Do you people never get tired of all these threads about women?

Holy shit that ending of The Brothers Karamazov was the saddest thing i've ever read.

God damn why is life so unfair. RIP my man.

Also, thoughts on the book? I'd definitely rate it 5/5 for Ivan and Alyosha's conversation and the Grand Inquisitor chapters + a few parts I really liked.

There was some parts that were a huge drag to get through, but that ending/epilogue and the few main highlights definitely made up for it.
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>>8518804
which translation famalam?
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>>8518806

P&V.

The red cover paperback.
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I found big sections to be a slog through, and actually found the ending kind of sentimental and hamfisted. Still a beautiful, passionate book, but not a fan of the heavy handed philosophical dialogue

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http://sqapo.com/index.htm
Realistically how much am I really missing?
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Why can't they make shit like panzerfaust anymore
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>>8518803
Panzer was weak imo, Why can't they make anything like Under a funeral moon anymore?
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svkk my fvkk

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Why is this so awesome?
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>>8518774
Because Tolkien senior had less to do with it
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>>8518774
Nostalgia + you were less critical of what you read when you were a kid.
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>>8518774
Because you liked it.

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Do I need to read boring canon shit if I want to write to entertain?

I don't think you need to know about classical music if you want to be a pop song writer?

There's nothing wrong with writing for the plot.
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>>8518764

>uses question marks on sentences that are not questions

Just dropping in to tell you to KYS.
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>>8518764
>read?
no. if you want to know how shit a writer you are, then yes.

>pop?
above

>plot?
not if the plot has a point. otherwise, it doesn't matter.

if you think it will be boring, it will, because you will make it boring. don't bother, you will be better for not having read it.

go back to /co/ or reddit or wherever you came from and stay there.

ignorance is bliss.
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>>8518764
>Do I need to read boring canon shit if I want to write to entertain?

You should read anything you can. /lit/ is phenomenally far up its ass in terms of what it calls "required reading," but every good writer knows that you can learn something about writing from consuming any work no matter its medium. Should you still read "boring canon shit?" Absolutely. Every aspiring writer should read Faulkner and Joyce.

>There's nothing...
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What is your relationship with literature, anon?
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>>8518726
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>>8518735
you throw literature off the bed because it's distracting you from literature?
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>>8518739
No, literature throws literature off the bed because it is distracting literature from reading me.

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How much do translations of philosophical works such as those of Plato & Nietzsche matter?
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>>8518527
Define "matter," first
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>>8518531
I mean, what am i going to get out of choosing one translator over another, surely they've all translated the works coherently?
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>>8518534
>what am i going to get out of choosing one translator over another
Some are literal, some are accurate, and some are more poetic

The translator can completely transform the author's idea. It's not just putting the book into Google Translate

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Why there is no philosophy in elementary school? Its logical and it teach critical thinking and morality
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>le logic and critical thinking
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>>8518505
How is theology not logical
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>>8518500
That gets put into English class.

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What does /lit/ think this book is mainly about?
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>>8518472
Meursault, the main character
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>>8518472
human existence
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>>8518478
That's not saying much.

Do I need a math degree to enjoy it?
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>>8518454
No, just a lobootomy.
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>>8518454
no. its a book.
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No. You probably won't totally understand Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem after reading, but Gödel numbering is incredibly bizarre and you still understand the rest of it. You should read it.

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Alright /lit/ I have $9.50 left in my gift card and I want to buy 1 maybe 2 books on Amazon. What should I buy?

I tend to read about Psychology, memory, influence, "how we learn", "why we do things".

Everything is fair game but I know that the go to nonresponse of many is "we don't even know what your interests are".
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01G0TOU14/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

Someone said this is the series that gasfag keeps going on about. 3 bucks
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>>8518432
bumpu
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If you want to read something that will blow your mind pick up David Wilcock's new book The Ascension Mysteries or start in the beginning with The Source Field Investigations. HOLY FUCK COOL SHIT


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