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So Flannery O'Connor is the best American writer of all time right?
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the best american female writer, yes
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>>8515724
Who is the best American writer of all?

Steinbeck?
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>>8515755
lol

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I had a dream the moon turned into a boil of worms.

The worms fell from the sky and started flying. They lodged themselves in peoples brains as tiny hyper advanced micro-bacteria started filling the air with ammonia. The worms lodged themselves into peoples brains and took direct control of them. Then people started killing each other. They called in the military but pretty soon they were gasping for air. People were living in oxygen tents and told not to go outside.

All the sudden things started hatching from under peoples skin. Tiny spiders. Millions of them....
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>>8515532

When I woke up I was slowly being lowered into a pit. I could hear things sliding around softly below. I was in a well completely without light, and from what I remember, the surface was completely covered in wet and darkness, with only the occasional flash of lightning to illuminate my surroundings. Strapped to a stone slab with leather harnesses, I wondered at the remarkable wet sound coming from below. When I reached the bottom, I was injected with something that completely paralyzed me, left me numb without...
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Thats fucked up senpai
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>>8515532
Now you see what we do to people who speak out about water fluoridation!

This was pretty funny, right?

I was genuinely laughing out loud at the goldmines chapter, or when the kid was f*cking with the market people, or Fyodor Pavlovich's general antics, and so on and so forth.
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Yeah there are some funny moments in the book, but some moments that pierce your heart with feels
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I like the one part where the dad calls whatshername "my little chicken" in a letter
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>>8515442
That smartass kid is your average /lit/ shitposter.

The book is funny. The characters are so frantic and hysterical. Dosto does such a great job of conveying that that I always think of it

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>"Faber has acquired Conversations with Friends, a "startling" and "intimate" debut novel from Sally Rooney, after a seven-way auction."

>"Rooney was born in 1991 in the West of Ireland, and lives in Dublin, where she graduated from Trinity College."

What's your excuse /lit/?
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bro I'd nut in her
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>>8515394
>through instant messaging, emails, it captures...

dropped and hopefully blacked.
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>>8515394
I'm not a woman

What books should I go to if I want to skip entry level stuff like infinite jest, gravity's rainbow, and ulysses?
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The Pale King
Mason & Dixon
Finnegan's Wake
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Finnegans*
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my diary desu

Completely bored of life.
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>no passion
>no dreams
>no goals
>no hopes
>no aspirations
>no motivation
>no discipline

i want to get off this ride
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>mfw I don't want anything so I'm never disappointed

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Can someone recommend me an annotated version of ulysses which has the annotations on the page, and not numbered so you can find them in the back of the book or something?
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>>8515200
My
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journal
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>>8515200
Diary

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why is /lit/ incapable of logic?

has reading too many books stunted your critical thinking skills?
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Critical thinking is spooky
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>>8515133
I don't quite follow you, walk me through your reasoning?
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>why is /lit/ incapable of logic?
This is /lit/ not /logic/. Plus, where's your proof?

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Name one book that acquits Anjezë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu from the accusations that she was a stingy, creepy anti-materialist.

Protip: You can't.
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I love her because of how much she angers modern people.
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>>8515479
Ow, how edgy!

And wrong. Modern people loev saints.
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>>8515049
there aren't any
how catholics have managed to venerate her in the past 10 years is mindboggling

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Paroxysm.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paroxysm

Have you ever read, heard, or even written this word?

Where?
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I've seen it before, probably in one or two of Dostoevsky's books.
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Yes

On /lit/
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It's not too uncommon in French

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go for it /lit/. don't worry about trying to write well just articulate your thoughts as they come
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You're supposed to edit later too
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Don't do this.

It's better to spend a whole day writing half a page than 10 minutes writing 30 pages.
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How will I write something now

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>tfw to clever for genre fiction

I just want to enjoy some twisty narratives with fun characters, are there any works of genre fiction with actual literary merit?
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Yes, for pseudo-intellectuals like you we call those books "the classics". You could also try some epics like The Illiad, The Odyssey, The Aeneid, Paradise Lost, Dante.
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>>8514819
>actual literary merit
What do you mean by that?
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>>8514840
He means whatever would make him feel special for reading something that others don't. He just wants to read something like genre fiction except it should be regarded as literary so he can feel good about himself because no one likes him.

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Worth reading?

Im hesitent to pick up a translated book but ive enjoyed the vidya game so far (i know fuck off back to /v/).

Does it read like shit or is it a decently written fantasy novel?
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>>8514798
I don't know about the translation, but the original Witcher books are excellent.
I'm Polish
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I liked the first two, haven't got around to the last one yet though
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>>8514798
decent short stories followed by an increasingly meandering fantasy saga. i have no memory of the second half of it. the dude's biggest strength is his ability to write clever dialogue with inventive/archaic swearing. the books are popular in various parts of europe so i assume they managed to localize the "ye olde polish + swearing" prose style successfully, but i've heard bad things about the english translation.

same guy also wrote a trilogy of historical novels set during the hussite...
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What does /lit/ think of Foundation series and Asimov in general?
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are these the trilogy books covers ? they are amazing
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Thos are some nice legs.
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>>8514758
Horrible.
No one waste their time on them.

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Have you read Tragic Sense Of Life by Miguel de Unamuno?

What do you think, /lit/?

Do we all want to live forever
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He explains the human need to believe in God is caused by the human need to be immortal.

I call bullshit.
But
Maybe Im missing something. Probably.
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Don't bother, if it's not some anglo postmodern tripe, /lit/ has not read it
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>>8514728
Yea thats probably right.
But there's a possibility, maybe some anon has something to say about it.

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What is the effect on literature when real life has become more interesting than it?

If this was in a Pynchon book you'd be high fiving each other and wanking over how lolsorandumb and ebin it is.
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>>8514689
Fiction adjusts itself to respond to the widened limits of possibility
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>more interesting

IMHO US politics is so shabby, if a writer came up with this you'd call him lazy and his writing a hamfisted satire
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>>8514716
Thats the fucking point of OP, keep up

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They're auctioning Truman Capote's ashes in Los Angeles next week, the bidding starts with two grand.

Tell me, /lit/. What would you do with Truman Capote's ashes if you won it? Or hell, whilw we're on the subject, whose ashes would you like to own from the literary canon?
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>>8514664
I wish I could have Sylvia Plaths ashes so I could eat them so that our bodies are forever one
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>>8514664
I'd fucking smoke them with the stickiest icky fathomable and get maaaad whacked out of my gourd with Capote's ghost, obviously. This is really the only valid answer.
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Try to glue the ashes back together and get a life size Truman Coopote

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>tfw when you learn that 'bad' means 'tranny'
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>its true
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>he thinks words whose definitions have changed still carry their meaning from hundreds of years ago.
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>>8514667
>he thinks op thinks words whose definitions have changed still carry their meaning from hundreds of years ago.

Is it worth the read?
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Bump despite the fact this is a slow board
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>>8514578
Yes.
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>finnish "literature"

lol no

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I need lit nerds to help me find magical realism books. Im a slut for the genre but books are never sorted like that in stores so they are difficult to find


Magical realism is a fiction genre in which magical elements blend to create a realistic atmosphere that accesses a deeper understanding of reality. The story explains these magical elements as normal occurrences, presented in a straightforward manner that places the "real" and the "fantastic" in the same stream of thought.
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>>8514571
Google "goodreads magical realism" you dip
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>>8514571
I tend to write "magic realism" then. To me its all fiction and genres like this are retarded concepts to divide fiction into sellable categories.

Any who people you should read: Borges, Marquez, Calvino, Rushdie, Murakami, Bulgakov, and to a lesser extent Pynchon, Jim Dodge, Kipling and Morrison
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>>8514571
The novels of Miguel Ángel Asturias are one of the first clearly distinguishable works of Magical Realism as a genre of it's own, El Señor Presidente is a great book for getting the whole concept. Really good book. It even got a Nobel, not that it means much these days, though.

>take responsibility for everything, your life was shitty because of you and not your abusive parents
>take responsibility for nothing, you have never had any agency and don't know how you ever will

philosophy for this feeling?
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>>8514534

False problem. Try Marxism.
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>>8514556
This
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>>8514534
the holy bible

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Never considered reading Atwood, thinking she was middlebrow plebcore then I picked up the Blind Assassin. Mfw I enjoyed it. Masterful plot, and good decent prose. What is lit's thoughts on this book, and Atwood in general?
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sorry to interject but what is the difference between a lowbrow and middlebrow writer?
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I read the plot summary of the handmaidens tale and see Atwood as a joke.
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Read surfacing and it was pretty amazing. She's accessible, if that's what you mean by middle brow, but still pulls off some great critiques of North American culture.

Also Surfacing had the best description of the experience of psychedelics that I've even read.

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What parts are essential reads and is there any parts I can skip when I start reading the bible for the first time?
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BIBLE POWER RANKINGS

Genesis
Revelation
Job
Isaiah
Matthew
John
Ecclesiastes
Proverbs
Psalms
Judges
Exodus
Acts
Daniel
Jonah
Hebrews
Romans
James
Chronicles
Corinthians
Deuteronomy
Numbers
Leviticus
Song of Solomon
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>>8514371
skip nothing when you lead the path of righteousness. leave no stone unturned.
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>>8514766
daniel is critical reading for reading Revelation

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What are the essential works of Turkish or Ottoman literature? Can include histories.
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Ottoman literature, except for Tanzimat era, is poetry. And poetry is worthless if you are reading a translation (especially stylistic, strict poetry like Ottoman) so I am skipping that. Just one example though, if you still wanna look into it: Fuzuli.

Tanzimat era novels are very weak in form, our guys didn't yet know how to write a novel properly. Yet, Namık Kemal's Cezmi is a quite moving historical novel, despite it's faults in its shaping.
In 20th century people learned how to write sshit properly. You can look into Hüseyin Rahmi Gürpınar and...
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>>8515041
I have a limited but working knowledge of modern Turkish. How well would I be able to understand/enjoy Tanzimat poetry?
Also, is Orhan Pamuk's stuff worth reading?
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>>8515096
you wouldn't understand it. a regular turk wouldn't understand it without a vocabulary.
I only read one work of Orhan pamuk, Beyaz Kale. It was fine, it didn't bore me, the prose was decent, but i wasn't really intriguing. I think -from what i heard from my friends- this may apply to all of his works.

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Anybody got a pdf or epub of Tyler's translation of The Tale of Genji? Can't find that shit any fucking where

Why isn't it discussed here anyways?
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>>8514294
Can't find one, but it's pretty cheap here.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0143039490/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1474005448&sr=8-2
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>>8514305
I would buy a copy if I didn't live in africa for the moment.
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I guess it's easier to upload it than track back its source just to complain about you not looking there...
>http://www42.zippyshare.com/v/fi9pYJRo/file.html

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Lets see how your writing skills hold up when scrutinized by an individual with a PhD.

post god tier essays from college
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>>8514265
>fishing for essays to resubmit with your own name on them
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>>8514269
>fishing for essays

My essay is already written. It's on near eastern ancient texts and chiasmus.
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>>8514290

it doesn't really matter since if your work gets plagiarized you're penalized just as harshly for negligence, and anyone could take stuff posted on 4chan

this really makes me doubt you have a PhD

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in your opinion?
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The only possible answer is The Waste Land
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Here's a better question:

What is the most important English poem of the 21st century?
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Important in terms of the effect the poems had on poetry or the public? For poetry it's probably The Waste Land, for the public maybe Howl or I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwyOfqbP8JU

Sure, there are many rappers who've come up with deeper stuff on their records, but can anyone match the pure aestheticism of Em's spontaneous flow?
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>>8514229


>Edgy enough to give Reggie Bush a wedgie
>So pass that ass to me let me squish the left cheek
>And press against the right one till it's smushed against me

what did he mean by this?
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God damn Ive got nothing against this guy but his face is so repulsive to me that I cant listen to his music
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Now in the Bible it says
Thou shall not watch two lesbians in bed,
Have homosexual sex
Unless of course you were given the consent to join in
Then of course, it's intercourse
And it's bi-sexual sex
Which isn't as bad, as long as you show some remorse for your actions
Either before, during or after performing the act of that which
Is normally referred to as such, more commonly known phrases
That are more used by today's kids
In a more derogatory way but
Who's to say, what's fair to say, and what not to say?
Let's...
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Does reading help you fall sleep?

What are some good dozers that'll knock me out?
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critique of pure reason
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all reading help you sleep but if you think about it while you sleep you may encounter it in your dreams
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>>8514223
I was gonna post that

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Any book/essay recommendations on the biological, psychological, sociological mechanisms of human attraction?

I'm particularly interested in scientific data with philosophical extrapolations, the closest I've got was reading intro level psych stuff and the Kinsey studies which were meh.
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Sociology

>I'm particularly interested in scientific data
American sociology

>philosophical
Pre-1970s American sociology
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>>8514225
those are pretty broad categories, any names or specific recommendations?
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>>8514307
Talcott Parsons most likely


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