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What era of literature is your favourite? (I.e Romanticism, Victorian, Neo Classical, Antiquity, etc.)
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modernism
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>>8506393
Postmodernism because of Thomas motherfucking Pynchon!!!!!!!!!!!the way he uses pop cultural references and fragments his narrative is fucking awesome!

And don't get me started on his prose!
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Depends. I love the two great eras of English poetry: the Elizabethan and the Romantic, and also high modernism for the novel. The classical epic is good too.

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Hello, /lit/

I need a book to read. Any suggestions?

I'm a huge Orson Welles, 1985 is my favorite book ever.
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>>8506373
the highway by corncob mccarthy
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>>8506373
I'm a huge Rush fan my favorite books are

Law and Order by Fred Dustevsky
The Moonlight Sonata by Leon Trotsky
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>>8506373
The Ill-iad by Rob Fag ft. Myooz and Li'l Ajax

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>O, I am slain!
What did he mean by this?
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>>8506350
That he has been slain, presumably

Can we ban these threads already?
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it means don't forget who killed me to the audience
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>>8506355
Though you don't have a definitive answer?
Why do away with threads when there is still plenty of work to be done?

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Can some recommend my some good Beckett?
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>>8506293
I can, I studied him extensively for my degree in Dublin. What are you looking for from him?
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Finnegans Wake.

>yfw Beckett wrote it as Joyce dictated it from bed

Joyce retained all of Beckett's mistakes and editions.
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>>8506305
Just what are his best works, and what i should read

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what is the GOAT novel, not necessarry your favorite

but what novel do you consider to be the best in terms of sheer quality
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Moby Dick
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In Search of Lost Time
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moby dick or ulysses

I can't decide

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What's the best literature on

1. Metaphysics

, and what can I read to become a

2. Economic Theory Expert

3. Political Knowitall

and a

4. Guru of Grammar
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>>8506258
Seriously, taking the redpill could save you from spending a lot of time on nonsensical and continental/brainwashing/muh feels subjects

Just looking out for you
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>>8506267
What is the red pill?
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>>8506258
Don't know about your other problems, but metaphysics is at its best from Quine to contemporary analytic metaphysics.

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the life of a philosopher:

1) the childhood stage --- Sophie's world
2) youth stage --- easier Plato dialogues
3) coming of age stage -- Descartes
4) teenager rebellious phase - Nietzsche, Hume
5) young adult phase - Aristotle, Locke, Kant
6) adult phase - Spinoza, Hegel, Hobbes, Frege
7) middle age crisis phase: Kierkegaard
8) old wisdom phase: Wittgenstein. "The vanishing of the question."

bonus ninth phase: onset of dementia / Alzheimer phase: Stephan Molyneux
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>>8506204
First stage: liberalism and Marxism
Last stage of maturity: the redpill
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...Or just read Sam harris and finish philosophy in one swoop
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>>8506218
A polack knows another polack in a sec
What do you think of the latest World Peace episode? Btw Pepe the Frog forever ;)) TRUMP FOR GOD EMPEROR :)))

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Why is this book written in such a retarded fucking way?
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i dont even remember how its written i only remember that its FUCKENING BORING
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Because it's in the future.
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>>8506256
Everyone in the future talks like a retard?

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Who is our guy?
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>>8506176
José Verde
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>inb4 the book chemist

Do you think that graphic novels have a place in the literary world? If any, what graphic novels or "comix" have you read and enjoyed?
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Graphic novels have little to no place in the literature world. Fucking gene wolf scifags are a big enough cancer to this board already, please let's keep le literary comiques desu out of it
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>>8506096

>if your work isn't derivative tech of the gutenburg bible your readers are plebs
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>>8506092
Hellboy and BPRD riff on Lovecraft and his ilk enjoyably.

Sandman plays with Greek and Norse myth, and Shakespeare.

Alan Moore's Swamp Thing has good writing in itself, ditto Watchmen. There are layers of meaning.

Charley's War looks at WW1 in gritty, sorry detail

Judge Dredd is informed by PKD and Orwell in its depiction of a fascist police state

But they all rely on the visual component or they would fall flat. Comics occupy the intriguing realm of the quasi-literary.

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I suck at reading.
>Go to bookstore and buy a bunch of books people said were good and looked interesting
>Brave New World, Johnny Got His Gun, Neuromancer, Hitchhiker's Guide Series, Dune series(I bought only the first 4), Otherland series
>Only have read the first book in the Dune series and loved it alot
>However I can't find the inspiration to pick up the other books I bought, not even the sequels to Dune
I read Dune like 6 months...
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>>8506036
It's called willpower.

Force yourself if you really want to read. Or just forget about it
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>>8506036
You might enjoy short stories more than novels, for now. Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man for something popular, Ray Chandler's shorter stories for crime. Lovecraft for horror. Philip K Dick's shorts for sci-fi (Human Is? has a good selection of them.)

This board loves large tomes of prose and neglects the short form, probably because it's not the 30s-50s anymore. But it is a worthy form.
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>>8506036
get tested for adhd
I'm not joking. My life changed for the better after my diagnosis

what does lit think about reading theory?
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I gave up thought a long time ago, but have a funny picture.
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>>8505985
its not necessary for the layman and thats ok.

very helpful if you want to take your understanding of literature to the "next level" beyond just reading primary texts


pseuds are militantly anti-theory

do it in moderation unless you're an academic, for the sake of your own sanity.
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Smart people who intend on having a career in literature enjoy it, especially when it is challenging.

Casuals who are less interested in thinking about literature, its production, its reception and so on but enjoy novels for the plot and the human characters only ever read theory in their university English courses before they go on to teach high school or work in publishing.

Transient frogposters from /pol/ and /r9k/ (60% of /lit/ now apparently) hate theory because it's somehow associated with Hillary Clinton and libruls in their puny, puny minds. Generally...
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For me it was two books, 1984 and A Brave New World, that opened my mind
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>>8505927
Schopenhauer's 'On Women' and Mein Kampf
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The God Delusion
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>>8505927
Its not necessarily a book but reddit really changed my views politically and socially

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So it is bad writing?
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To me it seems a little like the way Bret Easton Ellis writes but more amateurish
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>>8505920
Now post the tumblr post that triggered you so we can have another pol9k thread
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>>8505920
jeepers that's tedious and dense
is the character supposed to be dumb and insufferable?

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So I've started reading this for the first time. I read 'A Brief History of Ancient Greece' and 'Mythology' to warm myself up but nothing prepared me for the absurd amount of names dropped, of people and places, in the part where he's listing off the battalions in book 2. I just know I'll struggle to keep track of all this. Any tips to improve my reading of this Anons?
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>>8505917
You only need to really know a handful or two of the characters
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>>8505930
Well thank fuck. Can anyone confirm?
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>>8505930

This. Just let it flow over you.

One thing that happens a lot is Homer will introduce a guy, go over his whole genealogy and life story, then have him impaled by a spear in the next verse.

So don't sweat all the characters, they won't be around long.

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Where is the best place for me to hire a ghostwriter to help me realize my literary ideas?
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I'll write for u
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>>8505936
What are your rates?
You can email me at timothyreyner1990@gmail.com
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>>8505894
a cemetery

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What is the most disturbing story you have ever read?
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>>8505879
Any history book that depicts how far we've fallen in the West due to leftism
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>>8505884
>Any history book
Because you don't actually read.
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There was some Herbert Selby Jr. that was tough and uncomfortable to read.

Harlan Ellison is a good choice. A Boy and His Dog required me to distance myself from the concept of rape in order to enjoy it.

I wanted to share a writing.
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>>8505842
It's horrendous. You can't think
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>>8505850
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>>8505842
i liked it

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Are there any American authors on the same level as Tolstoy, Gogol and Dostoevsky?
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Melville aaaaand that's about it
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Toni Morrison
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Faulkner, Pound, and Melville are above them

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I just finished the first section of this and it's incredible so far. Not like other books from him I've read, but this is thrilling in a really subtle way.

Really reminds me of Calvino.

I've heard a lot of criticism that it doesn't feel complete - does it get worse? What happens in the next 600 pages that concerns so many readers?
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>>8505818
everyone gets raped. anally and vaginally.
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>>8505818
I think I wanna read this book after I'm done with Infinite Jest. I'm on a memeroll
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>>8505818
>reading the savage detectives
>that whole chapter about how all poets are faggots
heh

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>There is no objective truth
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but isn't no objective truth tries to be objective truth
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>>8505809
He's not wrong. Truths are merely a social construct

I'm a femenist btw
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>>8505823
Yes, thereby proving the OP wrong.

/thread (in response to your post, not mine)

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Hi /lit/

I am from /ic/

So this girl who has been driving me crazy as of late gifted this book to me.

what am I supposed to make of this book? is it any good?
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>>8505741
self help crap basically
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>>8505741
fucking shit-tier, cut all relations you have with her, not even kidding here
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>>8505743
>>8505744
>calling rilke shit tier

I don't care if you're joking or not. kill yourselves.

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How would you convince a STEM type (who only reads sci-fi/fantasy) to start reading literary fiction?
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> to start reading literary fiction?
I wouldn't.
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>>8505750
This
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>>8505730
Exactly the same way you would convince a humanties type to learn more about STEM

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I'm thinking hitting up some bookstores tomorrow /lit. which books should I shoplift tomorrow if I can find them at the stores?
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>>8505729
Bottom's Dream
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Expensive textbooks to sell online or at some college campus.
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Art / photography books innit

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Any hispanons read that Agustín Fernández Mallo guy? 'pinion?
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¿Literalmente quién?
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>>8505726
>literatura contemporanea
Es lo que piensé

Sounds like it could be fun and he seems obsessed with Borges, but I'm wondering whether my comprehension is up to possible po-mo-ry
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>>8505785
... oh but this one has an english translation. We'll see.

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I am ultra-pleb trying to get into reading. A good balance between engaging, with some depth and somewhat accessible is what I think I need to begin. Read stoner and that was near perfect in my eyes. Tried brothers karamazov and just couldn't get into it. Is blood meridian somewhat accessible?
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>>8505686
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>>8505686
Orwell is a great start
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>>8505686
It's the merry band of adventurers again.

I'd be the cock desu.

What phrases are exclusively used by pseuds? I'm talking about words that signify you're speaking to a posturing loser and should exit the conversation immediately

Some obvious ones:
>late capitalism
>problematic
>intersectionality
>androcentrism
>Panopticon
>the Other/othering/otherism
>spook
>dialectical...
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>>8505640
How is Late Capitalism a term used by psueds. It's an actual term used far and wide throughout academia. I think you're a fuckin psued you get offended over so many words without context of their use.
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>>8505640
The most obvious bait I've seen all day. End yourself.
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>>8505645
>I think you're a fuckin psued
I think a pseud would not know how to spell pseud.

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Is it worth it to study English/Literature in college if I want to be a writer even though my parents are probably going to cut me off and basically disown me as a result
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>>8505578
If you're gonna have to pay for it because your government hates you, then I'd be a lot more careful about the decision, but if you live in a first world country where they pay for your course, then go for it man
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No

Dont be silly
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> study English/Literature in college
Fuck no.

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not that the philosophy in the book is good.

but as a literary work its pretty great from what I heard?

is this true?
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You heard wrong
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Greek Mythology
Shakespeare
Rand

This triumvirate is the crux of the western canon, dont let the libtards con you
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>>8505572
Its amazing. Not only for being a great book but also because it makes the left mad.

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Is anyone else actually reading this, rather than just memeing about it?

I just finished Chapter 3 the other day. Supposedly it's called "Proteus"? Anyway, I didn't think it was as hard as most people make it out to be. It certainly was beautiful, though.
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>>8505535
I've always thought the whole "Ulysses is incomprehensible" thing was at least half a meme. Then again, I live in Glasgow, which makes all the cultural allusions and city geography a lot more accessible than to most people I guess.
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>>8505535
You don't even know the name of the chapter, let alone its significance, and you're telling me it's easy? The only reason you think it's easy is because you have virtually no idea how much information is going over your head right now.
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>>8505549
Somebody (I can't remember whether it was an actual critic or just a shitposting anon) said that the Homeric allusions to the odyssey were of tremendous importance to the writing of Ulysses but are of minimal importance to the reading of it.


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