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Can we have a general for lighthearted literature discussion?
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Yes! Oh my God yes. Thank you Anon! I didn't think anyone here also liked this book. (I'm new) i think it is time to write a proper review for this book, as it is one of my all-time favorites and deserves way more than two words. back when i was a junior in college, i was at the nyu bookstore, trying to sell back some textbooks before going away for winter break. the person in line in front of me was trying to sell back infinite jest (where was i when this class was being offered?? ) and of course, they werent...
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>>8499684


Nice copy-pasta from Goodreads.
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>>8499714
I think you are confusing plagiarism with referencing. One is presenting someone's original creative thought as one's own. Facts are not original or creative thought. Facts are usually used to support an argument and they then need to be referenced to show they have not been pulled out of thin air.
Primary sources are referenced for facts so readers can refer to where the information was found. And the reader can the. Decide for themselves if the fact, is indeed a fact. In a nutshell.
If the 'fact'...
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Who here has mystical experiences all the time?
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>>8498329

I'm not falling for your stupid trap anymore. You've already sucked me damn near dry, you can fuck off now.
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I have some severe mental illnesses and dissociate a lot. Does that count?
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Not frequently, but the other day I had the sensation that God was real, and it sent euphoric tingles down my spine and reverberating in my skull. I felt that the Christian God is real.

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Post yfw you realize that no matter how much you read, it's no replacement for a personality and real life experiences
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>>8498282
Kek, enjoy your 'adventure' in a Thai hostel finding yourself

experiences are for plebs
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>>8498293
>experiences are for plebs
t. embryo

I literally just finished the behemoth of a novel that is Moby Dick over the weekend. It was a rather long project of mine that I had been working on over time while reading other things as well. But, I have finally made it.
Large portions of the book are very dry (to put it lightly) because Melville either enjoys just jerking off to the thought of whales or he likes to set up a scene so precisely that it takes tons of time to get to the juicy part.
Overall, I thought it was a great novel. I guess I can see why people thought during the time that it was a captivating read....
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shut up retard
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>mfw some bitch told me she didn't like the parts about whales because they didn't advance the plot
Kill all women
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>>8498304
elaborate please?

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Itt: /lit/ creates a plot.
greentext one line of the plot for a new book
I'll start
>be white 15 year old fag
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>on a dark and stormy night
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>raindrops rolling down my window
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>50 years pass and it is still raining

/lit/ I need your help

I am looking for an book I read in high school. I can't remember the author or the title. I've tried Google and I can't its so run of the mill that I can't find any references to it. It was a pleb-tier high fantasy novel that contained the following:

>Setting was a large kingdom in decline
>Kingdom is threatened by a old undead emperor
>Undead emperor is shown in a flashback attempting to "sink" the capital city via a powerful...
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>>8498198
sounds like shit, better forget about it.
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>>8498204
I'm after it for more nostalgic reasons than any burning desire to read it again. I seem to remember it being part of a trilogy or a series, and I wanted to see if the other parts of the series were any good.
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>>8498234
The Broken Crown maybe?

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Who/what should I read for insight into the philosophy of psychedelics? I'm interested in reading how it can be used as a form of therapy to help people with anxiety and depression.
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Well Huxley is an obvious one. McKenna too, but I haven't actually read any of his work.
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Pic related, it's what you're looking for
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>>8498170

>philosophy of psychedelics

>how it can be used as a form of therapy

These two things are different. For the second, your best bet is primary sources from researchers. Popular science articles and books are garbage.

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What are some books or resources I can use to improve my writing in terms of grammar, sentence structure, etc?
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>>8498116
>that pic
You seem to know your way around English. Why do you require such resources?
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>>8498116
Nietzsche, Faulkner, Paul Celan
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>>8498116
"you too, Brutus?"

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My English professor made that argument that the best writers are also the ones who read the most. I understand this and it seems very logically.

She also added that reading out loud is the best way to read because the vocabulary and prose better cements itself in your mind subconsciously. What do you /lit/tle niggers make of this?
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>>8498106
>seems very logically.
logical*

also pic unrelated, just a writer in my town who recently released a novel
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http://memecucker.tumblr.com/post/144587721433/i-remember-in-my-medieval-philosophy-class-my
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>>8498110
>also pic unrelated, just a writer in my town who recently released a novel
NO FUCK OFF NONONONONO

What is the most perceptive description of what it's like to die that you've ever read?
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"slowly, and then all at once."
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"Hello darkness my old friend"
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"My Mother is a fish"

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Hey, I'm learning Italian atm, and I ussually learn a new language by reading a book in that language (after learning some grammar and vocabulary). I've recently been reading about evola, would the revolt against the modern world in Italian be doable to read for a begginer-intermediate?
Also, post some books that you read in foreign languages.
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>>8498064
>evola
Please suicide.
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>>8498064
That pic
That request
>>>>/Pol/
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>learning Italian
>reading Evola
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

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I've never read so much information that only made me stupider.
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what is that. i like the cover. greys give me inner peace and i want to be abducted by them
>sorry
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Aliens are just fairies that have figured out how to keep doing their thing in our more technology-focused world.
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Way to appropriate and marginalize extraterrestrial!

>>>/x/

just finished with this, and I'd like to ask /lit/ (as someone who watched Blade Runner before reading the book), what was essentially the moral of the book, or rather the message the book was trying to convey?

i mean, for one I might be fairly biased because the movie ends on a heavy emotional note, with Roy Baty commenting on the ephemerality of his life as an android and the utter insignificance of his actions and experiences in the long run, but in the book it ends with roughly 20 pages exploring the concept of Mercer before concluding with Deckard going to sleep...
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>>8498039
Fight to live and feel anything

http://rickroderick.org/fight-to-feel-anything/
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>>8498039
Different people may get different messages.

It there was one 'moral' of the story, in my lecture it was related to what it means being human and the things we put between ourselves and other people.
The androids of the book behave pretty much like humans, and I'd say they were more human than the humans who hunted them.
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not everything has a hidden meaning. sometimes you've just got to feel

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Huh, it really makes you think, doesn't it?
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I can't think, I can't write.
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The false continental/analytic dichotomy is one of the most dangerous phenomenon philosophy is facing in this age.

Was Queequeg really a South Pacific Islander? He could have been anywhere from Southeast Asian, to Indian, to African, to American Indian.

Reading all his bizarre exploits and details, he sounds almost like a schizophrenic "other" cosplaying as the universal noble savage. Cannibalism? An island that no one can locate on a map? Yojo worship? Ramadan? Head shrinking? All in one supposedly uneducated savage? How do we even know his tattoos are real?

Sounds like too big a whale of a tale to me.
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Hm... if what you're implying is the case, there is one question that comes up: why does he wear the mask?
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>>8498073
He could just as well have been another Ishmael. A boring humdrum introverted bookish type in the middle of nowhere, who decided to stop shitposting about norgo cabins, six-volume memoirs, existential crises, then decided to get /fit/, stop being a beta neet, and reinvent himself as a strong independent colored man, who sometimes needs a man (in his bed).

My linking of this alludes to TE Lawrence, a Kevin Costner film, Tarzan, the real life case of Rachel Dolezal, and yes, Dune.
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>>8497994
>Unmasking Queequeg
>A Queer Perspective on Gendered Bodies within Postcolonial Perceptions of the Other in Herman Melville's Moby-Dick
>by OP

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>Mason & Dixon
>Against the Day
>Gravity's Rainbow
>V.
>The Crying of Lot 49
>Inherent Vice
>Vineland
>Bleeding Edge

Read in this order, Pynchon's novels make a super-novel that chronicle the history of America. Really makes you think.
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"no."
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is there a Pynchon Universe? Do all his books exist in the same world
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>>8497933
>No revolution
>No post revolution meme and fighting period
>No britbongs go back period
>No corruption period
After that he does OK but he needs more about manifest destiny and the roaring 20s, as well as something about the great depression.
I dont think he missed much in the 20th. Maybe something about hippies and bums.
As well as little things talking about society in the...
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>finally get around to reading Shakespeare
>already there are several historical inaccuracies within the first scene of the first act

Does this get any better?
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>>8497921
>historical inaccuracies
Who gives a shit lad.
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>>8497921
>Reading shakespeare for historical accuracy
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It was the 1600s

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Is childrens lit capable of great prose? Or does great prose negate a childs level of understanding? Are there any examples? Can it be done?
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I think Kipling was pretty fucking good.
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alice in wonderland, a wrinkle in time, the list goes on...
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>>8497915
Of course. Most classic great "children's lit" is nothing of the sort, it's just g-rated and/or whimsical and fantastic, and has layers for different readers to grasp. Wind in the Willows and Kipling are first-class.

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Why do you have a girl name?
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>>8497826
He sort of looks like a much less masculine version of me.
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>>8497848
I know, I wondered the same thing when I saw his profile.

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For the first 200 pages this wasn't that bad, but lately I have just been finding that the writing style in this book is so difficult, that I'm getting past only a few pages every time I put a long concerted effort into actually sitting down and reading it, yet I still feel that I understand only vaguely what he's actually saying.
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really? this was my first classic and i was quite involved in the story i couldn't stop reading, probably cause i love the time that the book is set.
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>>8497808
Get an edition with footnotes. It's an amazing, amazing book, but it's just not very comprehensible to the modern reader without footnotes. I very highly recommend this edition:

https://www.amazon.com/Critical-Editions-Melville-Harrison-Paperback/dp/B00LLOAQK8/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1473658886&sr=8-11&keywords=moby+dick
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>>8497808
See >>8499360

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>tfw waiting for my Ritalin to kick in
>can't wait to get back to reading Kafka on the shore
>only about 10 minutes left
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Today I went on a run and got all sweaty but too lazy to shower afterwards so it's not after midnight and sitting in my underwear reading The Scarlet Letter for school. I don't like it.
I've read Kafka on the Shore. I liked Oshima. The book was ok, I'm not sure I understood everything.
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>>8497840
*Now
Sorry, typos.
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>>8497840
Running is nice. At the start of this summer I began running daily after work (6:30pm), and that lasted until the middle of July. Eventually I got too lazy and gave up. It felt good while is lasted though. Perhaps I should go on a run today.

How often do you run, and when?

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who else /davidfosterwallace/ here?
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>tfw you met DFW in 2015 and he told you to keep writing
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>>8497781
I'm literally dfw ama
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>>8497788
filtered

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Is frogposting the Nihilism of memes?

>simple yet deep
check
>no regard for frail minds
check
>adopted only by people who cannot fit into society due to their intellect
check

What do you think of this theory?
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I frogpost all the time and I'm pretty fuckin stupid
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>my preemptive face when someone tries to dispute op
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>nihilism
Just kill yourself now if you think this is a smart philosophy

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Most /lit/ jobs?
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Whaler
Scrivener
Librarian
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>>8497719

probably not bookseller. sure, spend lots of time "organizing" when in reality just shopping for yourself, which is amazing, but a ban on reading anything on the clock, forced to talk to coworkers that dont give a shit about anything outside of YA and comic books or malcolm gladwell, having to sell the same shitass sale books that you know theyre not going to read anyways, watching people walk in to fuck around and not even buy anything..

and then once in a while someone comes in to buy a couple...
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stalking

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Is this a good edition of The Republic?
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>>8497697
No it appears you accidentally chose a translation
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>>8497725

Can I get a non-meme answer?
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>>8497742
get oxford world classics

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Why in the hell....just what...this can't be serious
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>>8497687
what. what?
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Excellent edition.

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when it first came out
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why would he react

did Shopenhauer hate Hegel or something?
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>>8497668
Schopie was jealous because he was a nobody while Hegel was the talk of the philosophical world.
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>>8497668
Yeah Schopenhauer despised Hegel, he was basically Chad to him.
They lectured at the same university and Schopenhauer decided to schedule all his lectures at the same time as Hegel's to spite him. Then nobody showed up to Schopes since he's a faggot wimp

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I'm looking for a book that tackles military interventionism from a leftist perspective (preferable with a small focus on Afghanistan). Any recs?
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Infinite Jest
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>>8497583

Original. Totally didn't expect that one.
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>>8497605
Infinite Jest

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>tfw reading The Road right now

Which oh Cormac McCarthy's books should I read next?
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harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban
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harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban
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>>8497482
Harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban

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Is it possible to be truly intelligent and happy without pursuing philosophy in some manner? I am an engineering major; while I enjoy physics, chemistry, and mathematics, as well as their capacity to explain natural phenomena, I feel as if there is a large portion of my life missing. I have always read a lot of fiction, but I'm wondering if my time would be better spent pursuing philosophy. It also strikes me as no coincidence that many of the greatest contributors to mathematics jointly studied philosophy.
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>>8497475
fiction is literally just philosophy on easy mode with "muh pretty words" to attempt to make up for it
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>>8497475
It is only possible to be truly happy if one does not pursue philosophy.
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>>8497475
You can be happy if you're dumb enough to not think about philosophical questions. If you're unlucky enough to think about them, that's when you start learning philosophy trying to find a relief.


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