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Going to portland this weekend. What should I buy from this place?
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a few books probably haha
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>>8497477
sick post haha
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a noose

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>In writing class
>Looking around while everyone is talking to each other
>See cute girl who is extremely shy and introverted reading something
>Look at what book she's reading
>It's The Picture of Dorian Gray
>Impressed because I expected her to read John Green or some shit
>"Hey Anonette, is that The Portrait of Dorian Gray?"

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You'll be fine anon, just shoot the shit a few more times then invite her to coffee.

If that one fails, it's all ogre.
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holy shit you fucking pleb
how did you not read it already?
next time prepare yourself with knowledge of the writers biography and remember interesting factoids and quotes that can lead to further discussion.
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>>8497404
I've only been into literature for like a year.
Writing always came natural to me, probably because my father writes, but I never really actually got into literature until then. It's on my to-read list.

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What are some good novels set in Mexico?
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>>8497231
Under the Volcano by Malcolm Gladwell
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Dark Souls
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Los detectives salvajes, de Roberto Bolaño

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"The spectacle is the existing order's uninterrupted discourse about itself, its laudatory monologue. It is the self-portrait of power in the epoch of its totalitarian management of the conditions of existence. The fetishistic, purely objective appearance of spectacular relations among men and classes: a second nature with its fatal laws seems to dominate our environment. But the spectacle is not the necessary product of technical development seen as a /natural/ development. THE SOCIETY OF THE SPECTACLE is on the contrary the form which chooses its own...
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>dropped
Why?
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>>8497187

Who is this supposed to be? Sounds a bit like Zizek.
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lol

>>8497211
debord, silly

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He waves a flag during the day. At night he molests his daughter while his wife chainsmokes in front of the television. He sits at a desk with a donut. He votes for the latest delusion. At the end of his life, he asks his daughter to forgive him, which she does. He imagines himself in heaven with all his dead friends but instead he finds himself in hell, right here with me, the dissonant realizations washing over him.
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t. paulho coelho
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https://yuki.la/lit/8303835

you again?
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>>8497171
Which part of his life sent him to hell?

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I'm new to reading and definitely not as good at reading as you guys here on this board.

What book on this list do you recommend me to read by keeping in mind that it shouldn't be too hard to read since im a newbie?
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>>8497103
Goethe's Faust
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>>8497111
Is this a joke? Serious replies please.
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is Melville racist? does he treat them as caricatures?
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>>8497054
>it's
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>>8497054
He's not exactly "black" but Queequeg was a fairly fleshed out character in my perspective and I don't think he could be called a caricature by 19th century standards
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Ishmael is written to be a little prick. I've always thought his uncomfortable way of dealing with Queequeg as a parody of a 'tolerant' and 'modern' man of the Enlightment.

Could be off base, I've only read it once.

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Why do I always get corrected when using poor punctuation, while authors get praised for novels that break most of the rules? Blood Meridian is written with very little punctuation. If he wrote like this in college, he wouldn't pass an intro class. Yet, it's considered a masterpiece.
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You can do whatever the fuck you want if you can write a masterpiece. Punctuation doesn't do shit. It's just a visual cue for separating thoughts or how a sentence should be spoken.
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>>8497019
No shit. I'm wondering why we're not taught that in school. It's kills any kind of unique prose.
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>Why do I always get corrected when using poor punctuation

because you're not cormac mccarthy

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Why did they always write about aristocrats?
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They didn't?
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>>8496903
Because aristocrats are the only Russians worth writing about.
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>>8496905
All of their prime works are about rich landowners.

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Any good novels on tank warfare?
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Achtung Panzer! by Heinz Guderian, the father of modern tank combat.

Also his memoirs Panzer Leader.
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>>8496827
>anime
This isn't the board for you, friend
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>>8497084
This isn't the site for you, moron.

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>smelly
>stinky
>poop

For some reason I automatically think less of anyone who says these words.
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whilst
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>>8496689
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thus
aesthetics

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>not drinking glass of spirit every day
Why you still not living slav literary patrician lifestyle
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Makes head hurt, mouth dry
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But that's what I'm doing. My liver is fucked though but there is nothing better than some samogon from your friends dacha.
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I'm very lightweight, and only really enjoy beer. I drink a glass of wine if I'm eating a big dinner.

im addicted to coffee tho and I want to stop

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I've thought about starting a hardcore erotica site focused mainly on extreme/taboo kinks, being as perverted as words can be (think de Sade or Apollinaire).

I've found a site with beastiality, torture and snuff, but every protagonist seems to be of age. There are probably more kinks that aren't covered as well. On top of that, the site isn't marketed as "extreme", which means there might be a place for such a site.

The whole point would be to be as creatively deviant as possible, actively trying to find new combinations, new sexual...
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You can find any fetish imaginable on the Internet. Reddit alone would probably be enough for that.
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>>8496582
>You can find any fetish imaginable on the Internet.
Yes, you can *find* it, like you can find porn on google, yet you go on porn sites instead. The sites I found all have at least one important flaw. "Sexstories" doesn't have all the kinks, "asstr" has a broken search function, etc.

Here's three main differences that the hypothetical site would have with others:
1. Focused on extreme erotica, exploring every kink possible, every combination.
2....
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>>8496892
Literotica is mostly private submissions

How do I learn Philosophy? I know to start with the greeks which I'm doing, but do I supplement it with youtube videos? Lectures? Summaries? Should I take notes? I want to study how to live a good life and I'm pretty intrigued in metaphysics. Are those harvard vids a good supplement?
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>>8496464
http://plato.stanford.edu/contents.html
Is an Excellent resource, also just start with your interests: metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, or aesthetics. You don't need to start in the beginning. Fill in blanks as you go.
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>intrigued in metaphysics

retard alert
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>>8496464
Start questioning thing, and then try to answer them. Simple and effective.

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What's the equivalent of prose in a visual medium?

Cinematography?
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>>8496459
why, my peenus weanus of course :)

hahah! :D

it's my weeeeeenus peanus! :) hahah

the equivalent of prose in a visual medium - my answer is, of course, my peanus weenus :D

hahaha!
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>>8496461
>>>/v/
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>>8496459
Who is this seedbank?

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>European
>Not too big, not too smal (200k inhabitants)
>Character
>Rich history
>Decent night life
>Decadent
>Dark and gloomy
>Great beer and food
>Heavy drinking is socially acceptable
>People open up at bars and tell you their lives
>University
>Unemployment and heroin
>Lively cultural scene
>Everybody has a weird job
>Lots of bookstores
>Important train station, easy to travel around Europe
>Mines and immigrants
>Cheap
>Crime and violence

Could this city be the ultimate place for living the literary lifestyle?
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No

>Smells like shit
>Ugly
>People only speak French
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>>8496310
But Anon, those are all good.
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Any eastern european city with a decent university will do.

>tfw not living the literary lifestyle
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>live the literary lifestyle
>movie into a cool downtown apartment in a small town with an artistic community and Bohemian flare
>one day you notice a lot of people driving around town in Prius and sitting in coffee shops on their MacBooks
>weird botiques start popping up everywhere such as 'organic nail salon'
>Whole Foods opens across the street
>Your landlord raises the rent so...
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>>8496178
Don't try to, it doesn't really lead to anything
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>>8496224

you're what's known as the head of the spear. you aren't really the problem insofar as you are still poor and you aren't one of the agents fucking up the local economy, but you lend the area cachet - yuppies see you, they want to be you, and suddenly the area is ruined.

real artists love mexicans though

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GEORGE PEREC THREAD: What /lit/ think about him?
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He looks like Elijah Wood burned out on acid
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>>8496173
I've read Things, his first novel which I didn't really enjoy that much, and The Art of Asking Your Boss for a Raise our something like that, which was really fun for a while but in the end was just a gimmick.

I know I should read Life: A Users' Manual, his magnum opus, but I dunno...too light, too playful for me. He's enjoyable for a while but I can shake that feeling that it was all just a gimmick, a bunch of tricks to get your attention.
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>>8496173
I adore his stuff. It's stuff that's shameless in his tryhard it is, but Perec is just able to pull through because he's 1. a genuine intellectual and 2. hell of a funny/emotive writer.

Even better than Perec is the guy that translated La Disparition because man that guy deserves all the awards

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or is this some retard's meme?
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no it's not
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>2 / 0 / 1 / 2
fuck off retard
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>>8495984
>>8496146
>>8497361
Wow all that samefagging... you think you Smart huh?
>saging with a pic

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What book did you have the most fun reading?
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siddhartha desu senpai
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>>8495941
did you have a lot of previous knowledge?
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Catch 22

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who is this guy /lit/ and why does hes always get posted here? does he have any good books?
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he's franzen's dead best friend. end of story. read Purity or The Corrections, disregard plebeian foster wallace
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roses are red
violets are blue
infinite jest sucks
so does any other ulysses clone
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he's /ourguy/

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I'm trying to write the "Great American Novel".

What should it be about?
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>>8495712
SHART
IN
MART
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>>8495712
A lawyer, fighting to exonerate the first astronaut to kill another astronaut in space

The title of it should be EARTHLING
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>BRRRAAAAAAAPPP

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What's the deal with this guy? Is The Tunnel some forgotten masterpiece? Why is it so hard to find?
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He complains too much about SJWs trying to ruin his Muh Canon, but otherwise has a few insights scattered across his rolls of bloat.
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Was it autism?
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>>8495495

Huh. I thought you were making stuff up until I looked on Amazon.


I got it on amazon early this year new for $15.23.

i hope they print it again for you. meanwhile, mine will sit on the shelf in pristine condition, the way Gass intended.

>cannot read latin
>cannot read greek
>thinks he is intellectually equal to me
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>>8495441
>measures intelligence with arbitrary scales
>measures intellect as though it's linear
ok guy
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>>8495453
Intellectualism rather than Intellect itself. One can be smart but ignorant

If you can't read from primary texts without translation (in other words without being a fucking pleb) you should have no say in debates and arguments.
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>>8495460
prove it then

you can't because youre a pseud

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It's not like it's going anywhere
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>anthology of short stories
>theme is spys, thieves, warlocks, and dreams
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>summer, 1864, American Civil War
>the devil sings in treble
>destruction springs to His mind
>winter, a nuclear kind of season
>sprinkling of salt, pepper, honey
>brothers baptized medium-rare
>I eat boys up, you better get runnin'
>no reason
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>a guy waits near a bus stop and watches for people who get off at the same time every day
>when he finds a suitable person, he approaches them and begins small talk
>if they hit it off, he continues to talk to them every day, pretending to be someone who works nearby
>over time, he convinces them that their lives are utterly worthless
>when the time is right, he lures them to a secluded area and ritualistically murders them by duct taping them to a wall and slashing their throat
>when the deed is done, he moves on to another bus stop and the cycle repeats
>he does it because he wants to commit suicide, but can't build up the courage

Anyone else heard of/read Robert Service? I always carry his collected works with me, especially when camping or hiking. Few things better than being /out/ (yes I'm a crossboarder) and reading some Service. He encapsulates the danger, majesty, and personality of the outdoors and those who live there so well. Haven't seen him mentioned before, but I feel like he deserves much more appreciation.

Any favorite poems or ballads by him? Favorite verses? Super interesting dude. The Yukon is a pretty rugged place, I can't imagine the things he saw.
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Post some of your faves, sell me on him. I camp a lot.
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>>8494804
Challenge accepted.

“There's a race of men that don't fit in,
A race that can't sit still;
So they break the hearts of kith and kin, And they roam the world at will.
They range the field and rove the flood,
And they climb the mountain's crest; Their's is the curse of the gypsy blood,
And they don't know how to rest.”
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>>8494818
“Be master of your petty annoyances and conserve your energies for the big, worthwhile things. It isn't the mountain ahead that wears you out - it's the grain of sand in your shoe."

These are just bits and pieces of some of his works. Actually just snagging these from Goodreads real quick.

Part of his most famous poem....
“There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run...
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I can't find a page on the wiki or anything, my apologies if it exists and I did not look hard enough, but what is the best translation of the Divine Comedy? Could anyone post the image with the list of different translations in different forms? Should I read the Aeneid before reading it because it has Virgil in it or something?
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hollander
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>>8494878
thank you <3
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John Ciacco is the best for one volume.

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Are Non-Fiction readers even human.
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Simply patrician.
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>>8494597
>Reads plenty of instructional textbooks
>no qt
>no friends
>Browse 4tran
>Definitely not human
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Non fiction is the gluten free of literature.

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ITT: books that reminds you of yourself so much it hurts
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Have yet to write it after VR kicks off
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It's as if this book was literally written about me. It's kind of scary.
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lolita desu

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What languages are you learning for literature, /lit/ ?

What strategies do you use when reading in languages you aren't fluent in ?

I've been using a combination of Wiktionary and Google Translate to find the meanings of words I don't know when reading Spanish and it's going pretty well, but it's slow as fuck and doesn't seem like the most efficient method.
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Ancient Greek (learning Attic but also plan to learn Homeric and Koine) and Japanese.

I would also like to learn Portuguese, French, German, Latin, and Nahuatl.
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>>8494305
Spanish, with a kindle dictionary (the one which I think is natively packaged into spanish kindles). Going fine.
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>>8494452
>Ancient Greek (learning Attic but also plan to learn Homeric and Koine) and Japanese.
Both of those are languages that I started researching around the same time. Ancient Greek got boring fast and I just stopped with Japanese for some reason, but I'm still planning on going back.

What's your progress on both of those ?

>>8494499
Do English Kindles have that ? I have one that I haven't touched in years,...
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