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Fuck me, my dudes. I lost the name of a philosopher.

I believe he was 20th century, could have been 19th but I doubt it. He believed in the concept of a truly open and free democratic system in which all voices are expressed and heard. He's been getting a little extra burn recently because the Internet more or less realized this ideal.

Help me out here dudes. Will provide some form of riches upon receipt.
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>>8495900

Marshman "cool cool" MacLukehand
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>>8495905
I hate you.

I wanna say it's an H name.

There's a particular term for his principle, something like "blank arena" or "blank forum"
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>>8495900
Karl Popper, possibly?

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Pic related... I'm looking for contemporary rhyming poetry. Anyone have some good examples? Also, if anyone starts posting slam poetry or links to ted talks i will kill myself.
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>>8495864
Dylan
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like Dylan thomas or bob dylan? i guess i should also add that I really like it when rhyming poems arent part of a musical act. I think theres a kind of purity to it. But it seems so hard to find in contemporary poetry.
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>>8495864
>>8495876
Ogden Nash. He's the king of rhymes.

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why have you not read this yet? it's a real hoot - trust me, youll luv it.
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Nah
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>>8495867
piss off cunt flasher is a legend
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All the Flashman book are great. I love the one where he meets Bismarck.

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As a salesman
I try to learn about many things.
Helping people feel engaged and to be honest make the transaction emotional and not logical(more profit and quicker deals)

I am at the top of my department and I will say reading has helped.
My issue is when people try to get me to talk about my self I am truly a boring person
So if they are not self centered( a rare occasion) I am like a fish out of water.


Are there any books about becoming more interesting /lit/ would suggest?

Tl;dr op is a boring fuck who works 60 hours a week and goes...
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Go for immediate relateability. Start with things you know and are true - "yeah my son just turned 6 too, kindergarten is crazy right?"
Use little things you notice about them to guide you along, and don't just be afraid to make shit up that relates to them. Just because they aren't completely self interested doesn't mean that you're not there to make a sale anymore.
Are you still having trouble projecting a genuine persona?
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>>8495855
got ahead of myself and missed the book recommendations aspect, I'm so sorry, first time on /lit/
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>>8495795
You're done, man. Game over. Dont bother trying to be interesting, you have kids. Focus on them. There's no reason for you to be interesting.

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Will immersing myself in /lit/ and other forms of art make me happy? Tried reading some Whitman today but couldn't really get into it. Currently reading The Big Sleep.
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>>8495784
trust the titles. if reading big sleep, means time for a nap...
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going outside and engaging with real life will make you happy if not a little bit nervous before you get used to it. the same as anyone who is out of practice at a particular activity.

also going into something like whitman having not experienced 19th century culture or poetry beforehand will not be of any benefit to you, even if you believe in the transcendent qualities of 'real literature'. you'll need secondary sources or annotated versions or something to make the experience worthwhile. don't bother reading in chronological order either. that's just a meme
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Books or any artform alone will never make a person happy

It's sharing your love of them with others that brings real happiness

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whats a scholarly book on otto von bismarck?
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>>8495755
we had this thread last week
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>>8495779
oh yea? what was the answer then fatboy?
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one of the suggestions was 'bismarck' by a guy with a jewish last name. the other was the rise abd fall of prussia 1700? - 1947

then the thread died

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>start coming here
>stumble upon "/lit/ starter kit"
>"American Psycho" By Bret Easton Ellis

We're gonna have to have a talk, /lit/. Maybe in a matrix of 2000 titles. But 20?
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>>8495753
speak english you nig
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>>8495753
>We're gonna have to have a talk, /lit/. Maybe in a matrix of 2000 titles. But 20?
learn how to read pleb
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>>8495753
>starter kit for 4chan meme lords
>starts with a book about dubs guy

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I finished the edgelord trilogy, what should I read next?
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>>8495640
how to tie a noose
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>>8495640
The underground man is a real edgelord. Meursault is just a retard. And Holden is just young.
>which one should I read next
Which ones have you read? They are all short. You could probably read them all in a week.
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>>8495640
Crime and Punishment is kind of the ultimate edgelord book.

It's also the single most boring thing I've ever read.

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Does /lit/ do critique threads anymore? I have something I'd like to post to get a little feed back on. I'm new to creative writing and would like some honest input on my work.
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Alright well I'll just post it here anyway. I think I'm a little better than the average /lit/izen but feel free to be nitpicky.

Larf emerged from his hovel into the blizzarding snow. The yak hide door flap nearly tore off in the wind.

"Gli, goak cun donar," Larf muttered, pulling the flap back in place.

He grit his teeth, then spat into the snow already piling at his boots. He had a long trek to Sunar the Witch Doctor's hut. His wife had been ill six days, and there was little hope for her recovery without intervention from the...
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What the fuck is this bullshit
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>>8495703
Let me know if you want to read some more. I'm still in the drafting phase and any criticism would help.

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Give me some tips on how to write a good first person POV novel.
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just read some faggot diary
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read one and practice. put yourself in your character's shoes.
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>>8495581
Why are you asking a bunch of people who've never published a fucking thing?

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I'm almost done this book and it's been okay so far at first I have to admit that I didn't really like the main character because he just felt like a giant gary stu and it was super boring to read all the description of how badass he is but after making it nearly to the end I feel like he's become an interesting character in his own right. I don't understand why people compare this series to the tolkien and george rr martin though it feels a lot more like a generic fantasy book to me does it get better-er in the later books?
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>>8495563
You're not corncobby enough to be faulkner. use periods.
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>>8495573
I'm a total lit retard I haven't read many books honestly
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>>8495579
I think you're just a retard in general, famulam.

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that he never became famous like many European writers...
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>>8495299
Europeans for some reason don't give a fuck about American writers, although for some reason they love Hemingway. I've met quite a few well-read Europeans and the only American motherfucker they ever seem to care about is Hemingway.
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>>8495303
so what was the European reception of Moby-Dick?
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>>8495307
I'm talking about today, but IIRC, in England it was better received than it was here. Obviously, it didn't have much of a greater spread than that because it wasn't popular enough to be translated and lol illiterate irish peasants.

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I read Dune and loved it, and then I picked up Messiah for $1.
Will it live up to expectations?
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>>8495294
It reads like a hurried epilogue to Dune, at times it feels like Herbert is already preoccupied with the next book and is just going through the motions to humor you. Some people like it but the general consensus is that it's kind of shit, but also necessary if you want to go to the next book.

I'd stop after 4 if you're going into the series unless you don't mind being left off on a cliffhanger forever, in which case 5 and 6 aren't bad, but they aren't as thematically rich as the...
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I did the same thing, except my copy of messiah was $1.75. It was the edition in your picture.

Never got around to reading it. Just looked for it to confirm I paid $1.75 for it. It's not on the shelf to the right of Dune.

Maybe I'll never read it now.
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>>8495310
So is the third book better than this one, then?

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What am I in for ?
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The most vivid account of a medically performed castration in the history of literature.

Also an entire page of a dominatrix shitting into an English general's mouth and the precise emotions he feels at different stages of the turd's descent down his throat.

I think at some point a twelve year old is stripped naked and whipped till she bleeds by her own mother on a pleasure cruise, too.
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>>8495230
plot.
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One of the most ridiculous novels ever written. Most attempts to describe it usually miss one or more of its essential layers so I'll go with the least helpful, but most accurate answer: just read it.

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who is the best American writer of these people listed? prose wise in your opinion
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the one in the middle, that's why she's the only one with a Nobel
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>>8495203

corncob mccarthur
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>>8495203
One of these is not like the other.

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You fuckers made my fall for a meme again.
I hate the lot of you, you promised me some hot crossdressing sexual intercourse but is only boring german talk about potatoes.
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The fuck? If you want whore shit read his prostitute books, not his historical works. Also Europe Central is amazing, you're a fucking pleb.
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>>8495288
>i am gonna defend my meme author despite being proven that is trash
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>>8495388
>meme author
Vollmann is the 20th century's Pynchon.

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Wtf is this garbage? Couldn't get through half of it.

Am I missing something?
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>>8495142
I have no idea, I've never read it or heard of it.

What prompted you to read it and why was it so bad?
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>>8495154
I heard it would help me get girls but it hasnt at all
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>>8495142
gray matter, probably.

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I just finished the Socrates tetralogy and the Sophistic tetralogy and am bored as fuck. If I already understand his theory of forms and his view on virtue/knowledge, am I missing out on anything by skipping the rest of his works? Do you think I will be okay jumping into philosophers like Descartes, Leibniz, Locke, and Kant? I am particularly interested in Descartes and Leibniz, since I am a math major and they contributed so much to mathematics.
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What are "forms"?
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>>8495101
I see them as the pure, unpolluted essence that all things are a reflection of: roundness, blackness, goodness, pleasure, etc. The Forms always exist beyond space/time and we are cognizant of them before we are born and before we "learn". How else would we be able to determine that things are pleasing, good, etc. when we have nothing to compare them to? Things cannot exist only relative to each other; there must be a pure, true form they are all based off of.

All things we see in this world are pulled...
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is franzen the most underrated living writer?
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>>8494998
Well I dont even know who he is, so Im guessing no
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>>8494998
Over. You mean overrated.
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He's rated pretty highly by Oprah and sells well because of it. Not to mention all the awards and top novels lists he's on, so I'd say no.

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The debilitating effect of browsing this website.
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Don't browse it. I find the best way to avoid it is to read a truly engrossing book.
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>>8494977
This. Neither /lit/ nor any other board on this website is really that fascinating.
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>>8494989
Time to time some curious shit pops up tho

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do you all make fun of him since he is like the lit equivelent of kurt cobain? or is it ironic that such a shitty generation produced its own lit giant, so its one big joke? since that generation is so all around shitty? I mean the only damn thing people even care about is that lame suicide passage.
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what are you talking about, there is no suicide in the wardine passage, nobody dies in the wardine passage, if you have an original reading of the wardine passage please share
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>>8494916

For real?

>>8494893

I think its because he deals generally with existential crisis type things. And he has a large non-/lit/ type of following who think they're /lit/ because they've read Infinite Jest and Vonnegut.
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>>8494941
>And he has a large non-/lit/ type of following who think they're /lit/ because they've read Infinite Jest and Vonnegut.
he does?
ive literally never heard any mention of him outside of this board

ITT philosophers who are surprisingly not virgins
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>>8494830
neechee
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>>8494830
U so cheeky
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What is the best translation of the Iliad? I'm looking a for a more poetic version. I know there are many more literal translations but im really looking for the best read. Is it Alexander pope? Or fagles?
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>>8494829
Lang, Fitzgerald, or Fagles
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George Chapman.

Fagles is the fucking worst, stay away from that shit.
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monti and pieces from foscolo

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I want to learn about Pelagius, what are the best books for this?

Please don't redirect me to Augustine, I'm purposefully choosing Pelagius.
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https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/raoul-vaneigem-the-resistance-to-christianity-the-heresies-at-the-origins-of-the-18th-century#toc72
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>>8494712
Thanks!
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>>8494691
Darth Pelagius, the wise?

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hey i need to get back to reading and i need a very specific type of book

the book must be

>violent


>bizarre


>disturbing

pic some what related
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Babyfucker by Urs Allemann
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op here i got some more details something action horror. with all the bizare shit tied down to some deeper theme
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>>8494856
Seems like you want a manga.
Parasyte was fun (and got a recent "meh" adaptation of an anime). It's very 80s, but still holds up fine.
>themed about what makes humans human and what is humanity

There's also Devilman from the 60s.
Super dated art... And VERY dated style. (Can compare and contrast to the "rerelease" collab Amon. Not a real rerelease, but sections of Amon are parts of Devilman.)
>Also deals with human...
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Interesting words you learned from Shakespeare

I'll start
>wittol
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>>8494638
Eyeball, I was calling them optical spheres before
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Cs Us and Ts.
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I learned that word from /lit/.

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Which fedoracore book is regarded as the best?
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The God Delusion.
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I'd love to sit in a crashing airplane together with someone like Hitchens, just to see how quickly he finds his way back to god.
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>>8494628
too late, he died slowly of esophageal cancer and never sought god

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Give me good books to look forward reading in German as I get more and more comfortable with the language.

pic related; >tfw no qt German gf
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>roach

fucking no
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ZETTEL’S TRAUM
Die Schule der Atheisten
Finnegans Aufwachen
die autobiographie des albert einstein
Leben und Abenteuer der Trobadora Beatriz nach Zeugnissen ihrer Spielfrau Laura: Roman in dreizehn Büchern und sieben Intermezzos
Die Schlafwandler
nachschrift
Liebe Frau Strigl
Geschichten vom Herrn Keuner
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Ich werde hier sein im Sonnenschein und im Schatten.

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How's lit speed up their reading?

I'm currently at around 500 wpm. Any faster and comprehension begins to degrade. Any tips?
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>>8494409

I'm sorry to interrupt, but why speeding?
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>>8494409
read a summary beforehand or skim once before reading

terrible if youre a plotfag but knowing the framework everything fits into beforehand saves so much time
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>>8494416
Read quickly, more books at once. I'm not strictly "speed-reading", just want to increase my speed without harming my comprehension

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>read dune series expecting some fun pulpy scifi
>get the most tragic story about future vision I've ever read

Why is this series so underrated? Nobody gives a shit and yet the underlying allegory of space child muhammad looking into the future of Islam and having an existential crisis because the only way to stop it is becoming giga space hitler so nobody ever gets enslaved in the same way again is so fucking compelling.

The subtle behind the scenes manipulation of the benefits gesserit essentially...
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>>8494362
The worms were cool
I left the book at my dad's house and never went back to get it so all I really remember is the kid reciting a prayer to himself and some stuff about giant worms
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>underrated

You are on the /lit/ board
Know your goddam words.
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>>8494362
this is actually a good post, thanks anon.


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