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hey /lit/ theres this one video floating around of this dude shouting DAVID FOSTER WALLACE from his car or something i would really appreciate a link :)
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>>8494345
just go out and make a new one
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>>8494376
was it removed?
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>>8494345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXvAd7COpJY

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I can't stop listening to this guy.
His voice is so soothing, and I'm just a sucker for his philosophy. I've read his 2 books, the way of zen and The Taboo.
Last couple of days I'm in some kind of weird position in which I can't stop thinking about liberation/ nirvana as he explains it, and I'm more scared than ever of the thought of attaining it, and I just wanna continue leading my normal life, yet I can't focus on anything cause in the back of my mind I'm always thinking about this shit.
What does /lit/ think of him?
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>>8494339
He's great, but gets repetitive. The more of his writings you begin to digest, the more you realize he's reiterating the same theme, which is 'go with the flow.'

I'd say read 'The Wisdom of Insecurity' and call it a day with Watts. Also read up on the idea of a 'mad monk' or someone possessing 'crazy wisdom.'

I find that Buddhist tradition is useful to understand Watts because the more you read about his personal life the more empty his words become....
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>>8494354
i didn't find much info about his personal life, but I know he was alcoholic/ adulterous. But shouldn't we separate message from the messenger?
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>>8494380
Sure. It's just more difficult to do when the messenger is espousing a certain way to live.

That being said, I don't think Watts' lifestyle contradicted most of his message.

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is he a hack?
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>Only speaks English and irrelevant Jewish languages (Hebrew's day has passed), failed to become fluent in Latin, Greek, German, etc, despite years of dedicated study
>His criticism is hit or miss, few insights, and mostly exaggerations of his own opinions.
>Self-appointed himself as some kind of guardian of literature. Despite this, his works on criticism, including series he edits, are mostly filler and will be forgotten after his death.
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>>8494204
Yes.

(((Bloom))) is a meme.
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>>8494288
(((literature))) is a meme

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Does having a sitcom episode made about them, tarnish an author's reputation?

https://theawl.com/larry-davids-rough-night-out-with-the-aging-literary-lion-c111a1bc64cb#.r2s6fvpik
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>>8494200
Depends on the sitcom, if its something patrician like MASH then no, only enhances it
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>>8494200
The Seinfeld episode with John Cheever (along with some reviews I've read of his works) is the main reason I have not read him. So, yea I guess so.
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Isn't that Richard Yates?

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was he just a poor man's Sam Delany
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I think Ballard is better to be honest
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>>8494104
Ballard is better. Delany isn't bad by any means but it's like he intentionally wanted to be a less than popular author.
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>>8494209
in the sense that Delany probably felt it would make him look more "elite" in terms of the literary world if he wasn't as popular.

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Tell me more about rene guenon
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for instance would it be worth it to get his book "symbols of sacred science" over something done in this decade?
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>>8494099
Pretty cool. I guess the gist of it is not one tradition has a monopoly on the universal but the essential is that your tradition is a tradition with a hierarchy.

Although it's baffling why Guenon, a Catholic, seems to have completely ignored Eastern Orthodoxy, which put tradition at the center of their religion, and opted for Sunni Islam instead.

He was probably right about Islam (at least in his time) upholding it's traditions in the face of modernity better than Catholicism. Who knows if...
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>>8494099
He is named after these monkeys

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Does anybody ever get the desire to read a dictionary or encyclopedia cover to cover?
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Everyone should read a dictionary cover to cover before starting to engage in serious literature
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Turns out the zebra did it
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malcolm x did that and someone killed him

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>put book in amazon basket
>9.99 pounds
>0.01 needed for free delivery

Well played amazon... Well played...
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>amazon
>physical books

you get what you deserve.
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>>8494163
Not OP but they do this with my ebooks too
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>>8494079
pounds as money or pounds as weight

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Has anyone read this? I'm on chapter 4 and don't have that much of a grasp on the narrative. I know Ballard said in the opening you can pretty much pick and choose paragraphs that catch your eye, but what can I really get out of this book?
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i read it like he recommended it: i opened it every now and again at a random section and went backwards and forwards from it
i enjoyed it, there's a lot of good stuff in there and it worked well
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>>8494092
Honestly I would be screwed if I wasn't reading the annotated version where Ballard explains some of the paragraphs. I find it hard to follow since I'm pretty unfamilar with the 60s and 70s eras in general.

I keep asking what am I supposed to be getting from this. It just seems like some pop culture references mixed with violence and obscenity purely for the sake of it but not really offering a commentary on any of the real world events or characters it makes references to. Again, I'm only about...
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>>8494074
What is remarked on in this book is so removed from common experience, in such a shocking presentation, that it doesn't really need to be consciously contrasted, unless one is autistic.

There are only 2 worthwhile stories in this collection, the rest are just variations of those two. Have your wheat, then move on.

>What does /lit/ know about this?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/491287.The_C_I_A_Doctors

Next post I will reply to myself with a link of something peculiar about this topic.
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>>8494011
>in a university study of MKULTRA, in it's documentation about the programs, a "related item" is a scientific journal article about 'gender identity disorder' AKA TRAPS, TRANNIES, SHEMALES, LADYBOYS, SISSIES, CROSSDRESSERS, MENTALLY ILL MIND CONTROL VICTIMS.

https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/handle/10822/968053
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So? Who cares? Citizens belong to their government. YOU ARE PROPERTY.
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>>8494032
Spoken like a true cuck. You deserve it.

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Just finished The Sorrows of Young Werther.

Thoroughly enjoyed it. However, I've read that Goethe himself disliked the piece (and romanticism as a whole) and many reviews I read beforehand called it trivial and hated Werther for the fact that he couldn't just "man up".

Anybody else agree? I for one thought it was entertaining to read such profound deep seated heartache, especially after being dumped a few months ago. Definitely made the sentiment of unrequited love feel more ubiquitous and beautifully captured, however over dramatic the character...
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>>8493980
It's a great description of a teenager's worldview. Captures all the major points beautifully.
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>>8494000
Trips of truth.
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>>8493980
I donĀ“t agree with the people who think he should just "man up". Other than that i feel exactly like you after i read it a few months ago, was also dumped before.
I also read Faust I recently and while being interesting i liked TSoYW more.

"A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man represents the transitional stage between the realism of Joyce's Dubliners and the symbolism of Ulysses, and is essential to the understanding of the later work.
The novel is a highly autobiographical account of the adolescence and youth of Stephen Dedalus, who reappears in Ulysses, and who comes to realize that before he can become a true artist, he must rid himself of the stultifying effects of the religion, politics and essential bigotry of his background in late 19th century Ireland.
Written with a light touch, this...
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>>8493975
Read them in the order they were published.
It's not hard to figure out.
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Is this board especially retarded today? Sage, and leave.
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>>8493975
This description is utter horseshit, disregard literally everything it stated

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They're all here finally. I intend on reading them all and posting about each one, any advice?
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>>8493949
no
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>>8493949
Start reading.
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>>8493949
If you really want to read Balzac that bad, that was the best excuse you had to learn French and stay motivated.
Disgusting, op. Disgusting.

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Literally just went to throw my rubbish away and when I got to the bins I found this lying on the floor. Which one of you was this, and why did you do this /lit/?
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>>8493930
>Which one of you was this, and why did you do this /lit/?

it was me. I did it because Kant is a meme.
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>>8493940
>greatest philosopher ever
>meme

>inb4 (You)
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>>8493930
His ethics suck
That's just my opinion though

Any other books with similarly perfect, unforced?
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Prose
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>>8493905
Never read Stoner but Lolita is of perfect, unforced
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>>8493935
Prose

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is /lit/ gonna help our boy out or what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l304hYo9QHo
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>>8493875
why does he have so many dislikes on this vid?
jeez
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>>8493875
He looks like reddit/r/books personified
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>>8493933
he's the most patric booktuber though

Where do I start with Mark Twain? Huckleberry Finn?
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Technically huck finn is the sequal to tom sawyer. But huck finn is far better in story and characters
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>>8493836
yes. start with either huck finn or his short stories. but seriously...huck finn is where you ought to be.

>>8493932
not just story and characters...but HOW the story is told is what made huck finn his masterpiece. the authenticity of the rural vernacular of the times, especially of poorer folks was something that hadn't been done. hemingway said it was the beginning of American literature.
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>>8493954
True im sad i didn't mention that. But twain is a master of conversational tone.

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Why didn't Voldemort just turn the school itself into a Horcrux? It had a very strong connection to him in his past and would've made for a good twist, not to mention Hogwarts pretty much had two or three Horcruxes hidden away in places and Dumbledoor didn't detect them.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>8493797
The school is magic af, he couldn't do it if he tried.
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>>8493797

Why didn't Voldemort just turn Dumbledoor into a horcrux?

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Was Infinite Jest a horcrux?
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yes

now please leave
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>>8493806

Was V a horcrux?
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>watch porn, see something familiar in the bookshelf
thanks for ruining my boner /lit/

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Explain yourselves!
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>>8493763
my penis is literally two inches long
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>>8493763
If you think that is anything other than hilarious you need to leave immediately
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>>8493763
It's just a joke. Reddit really made more out of it then it really was.

Where do I go to buy books for cheap? I already go to half price book stores near me and resale shops to try and cop a good find but want to know where you guys go to get your books.
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Half priced books, thrift.books and other stores of the like on ebay
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abebooks
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Library bookstores/sales. I pick up awesome stuff every week for a dollar or less per book. Go to the library sales.

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What is some essential Scottish /lit/?
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>>8493575
Lanark
Train spotting
The Wasp Factory

That's all I've read of the drunken chavs desu
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Anyone recommend Ivanhoe?

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I want to give pynchon a shot. I have no idea whether I'll end up liking or hating him. Library only has inherent vice and his other doorstopper which is far too long for an author I don't know if I like yet. Is pic related worth ten bucks
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More like 5 or less
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>>8493536
I started with mason and Dixon and I loved it. I've been itching to read GR, lot, V and against the day. you faggots wanna pick which one I should read next.
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>>8493536
Yeah senpai. And it's probably the best intro to Pynchon. A rule of thumb for all his books is to push through even if you feel overwhelmed by his bullshit at first.

>>8493556
I've only read V. out of those you mentioned, and it's by far my favorite Pynchon book.

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Where can I find a book written in complex and archaic prose like pic related so that.

1. I feel like an intellectual when reading it
2. I run into ancient and no longer used words and phrases so I get a kick from reading pre-modern English.

I really like the prose style because its so monolithically hard to understand with Walden, but I don't like the subject matter of some guy going on multiple page philosophical ramblings of extremely dry subjects while being hikkomori in late 1700's New England.
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Try Emerson instead, far more mature and less edgy than Thoreau
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>>8493517
Moby-Dick
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>>8494293
Emerson is where it's at.

Start with 'The American Scholar.'

http://www.emersoncentral.com/amscholar.htm

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>the only good chapters are Ithaca and Proteus
>Joyce's understanding of humanity is trite and simplistic. Though the book is incredibly complex, its complexity of style and format is not mirrored by a complexity of understanding.
>His excessive use of symbolism is impressive but also incredibly redundant
>Just because there is a parallel between Bloom's soap and newspaper and the sword and shield of Odysseus does not mean that this parallel means anything
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>>8493512
Joyce is a wanker
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I like Dubliners a lot desu
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>>8493512
What did he miss? That would help make this a critique.

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It is normal to have difficulty reading philosophy while reading novels becomes easy and fast for me?
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>>8493431
yes now go back to read
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Try Alice in Wonderland.
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Yes. I suggest not reading philosophy. It's time-consuming and will rot your brain.

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Can someone please give me an invite? I'll PayPal you 5 bucks. Pleaaaaaseeeeee
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>>8493420
Sigh, I was going to asked for the same but can't even pay for 5 bucks.
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>>8493420
what is it
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>>8493439
Aaaaarg.org is a human-generated index of pirated academic works popular among graduate students

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Hi /lit/!
I have been considering buying a kindle or a nook for quite some time now
Though I love being able to write in and annotate a physical book, having an electronic device seems like it would be so much more convenient

What do you think? Which do you prefer? If I were to buy a device, which one is best?
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>>8493337
Got my paperback last week, it awesome no regrets.
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Kindles are pretty okay. But I'm not a fan of the Kindle fire tablets

I had ended up with a free Kindle fire. And the UI is heavily geared to an heavy Amazon customer. Like like I get into the Kindle store, I will get a notification that I can get this book for free through Amazon prime or I'll be asked if I want to try Amazon prime.

On the positive side, You can convert most ebooks into Kindle formats with calibre or pick up converted old books from Amazon's eBook store.

There's a /G/ sticky with more information about e-readers.

I'll like you to check the page there and decide based on your needs.
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>>8493337
Paper is objectively the worst of the three in everything, except for when you buy expensive editions in which case they are aesthetically better than the other two.

Nook and Kindle are very close. In general, ebooks are similar to each other in most ways. I don't know anything about the Nook, but the Paperwhite is very effective and has no real problems. However, if you are planning on pirating (which you should be), something like the Kobo is easier because it doesn't require epub conversion. It's...
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I never seen the price drop so quickly for a Harry Potter book it's already 40% off at my local bookstore, just how bad is it or people aren't just talking about it?
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It's fanfiction.
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>>8493333
It was 40% off when it went on sale a lot of places, bestsellers get discounts.

It's an absolute failure of a story, of a text, and basically everything else. I'm assuming the play got good reviews due to the effects.
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It's so fucking bad it's beyond belief. Most terrible HP fanfic at least has kinky sex and isn't written as a play script. It ruins and misportrays all characters, panders to stupidity at every turn, and at the end of it all, literally nothing has happened because time travel sucks.

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>be reading
>imagine myself as the main character
>think of how the concepts apply to me/my relationships and how i want people in my life to understand them
>think about talking about the book later and seeming smart
>imagine someone i look up to being impressed with me understanding it
>pretend that i wrote the book and then imagine my friends'/family's reaction upon reading it

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>>8493318
this is just active, rather than passive, reading
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>>8493322
So it is not unusual?
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>>8493322
>>8493464
...and/or a good thing to do?


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