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Hi, /lit/. I just have started a philosophy course and the teacher asked us to write an essay about whatever subject related to it. I haven't read enough about philosophy and I don't want to be adressed as a pretencious person. So, I was wondering if you could give me some suggestions about any theme that I can study/read and write about it. Thank you.
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>>8491846
>pretencious
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>>8491863
sorry, my mother tongue is not english. I'm really ashamed of my english vocabulary.
Pretentious*
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stick with the basics. literally look up anything that has to do with those old greek/roman philosophies. or you could do something more recent like the age of enlightenment.

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The last book i read was Minority Report (i guess it's technically a short story).
I am reading both Frankenstein and The Journals of Lewis and Clark.
The next book on my list is A Scanner Darkly
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>no caps pic
>not in caps
saged, reported.
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SGH-t509s USER GUIDE
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Last book(s): Lolita and the stranger
Currently: Love in times of cholera
Next: I don't know yet

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For all the /lit/izens that speak spanish. I wanted to ask if some of you read "A Farewell to Arms" by Hemingway in spanish, and if the translations are good. I recently started reading english literature in the original language. But today I found a nice copy of this book very cheap in some library. Would you recomend reading it in english or can the book be enjoyed in the translation?
I'm with a little PTSD for the time after I compared the english version of Catcher in the Rye with the spanish one, and the second one was totally shit and skiped a lot of...
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>>8491769
So let me get this straight, you're looking towards the minority of people here who happen to speak Spanish
Who also happen to also speak English
Who also happen to have read Hemingway
Who also happened to have read his translation into Spanish

Just get a fucking English copy mate
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>>8491769
I literally just finished reading this, but in English...
if you wanna talk about the book in general, I would appreciate it....
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>>8491797
well, I didn't read the book already, but you could send me some info contact if you wanna talk about the book once I get it and finish it.

>>8491782
No, mate. There's a minority of people here that speak spanish, sure, but enough to ask a question about translations. I'm just trying to get to someone who read the book in spanish. I don't know if you talk more than one language, but in that case, I could read any translation for 10 pages...
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7 chapters in, why does Greene keep bitching about how awful Mexico is?
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Because Mexico is awful.
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Just read part 4, why does Bolano keep bitching about how awful Mexico is?
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>>8491756
Because it's Mexico

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I've read and very much enjoyed the Dune books. I heard this is on a similar playing field.

Is this books too reddit? I fucking hate reddit's taste in books (not to mention music and TV shows) and I know this book has been praised on reddit.

Am I going to get near-Dune levels of enjoyment? Or am I going to get stupid reddit garbage?
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It's not reddit. It's not as good as Dune. It's alright. There are some great parts. Some parts drag.
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>>8491748
>science shitsion

hohoho
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it's not reddit, and i liked it more than dune

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No prose critique thread?

Here's my story, which has been aggressively edited thanks to feedback from you all.
https://my.mixtape.moe/xrwizj.pdf
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Sup, /lit/. I just moved here from Pacifica, California, which is on the other side of the bay from here. On the other side of the peninsula, which is probably the least hip town in the whole Bay Area. And you can get a nice ratty apartment there with a nice panoramic view for about $700 bucks a month. Anyway, this is something I wrote while I lived there. It's called Pacifica.

My balcony looks over Eureka Valley.

In the evening, I get to watch the land turn the color of brick, and then aluminum.

On the hills there are trees: eucalyptus and Monterey...
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>>8491673
>$700 bucks
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>>8491673
Your sentence structure is unnecessarily complex.

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pupu / to yam be zajin ta /lang/ rimish ëd /int/tri / tsi miu salipak eidit dä tosot to nos be kapït ta togom nov /int/ nat der poshok / be baril ta nos'hem robotat fa der nilemok kä hotot tosot

http://pastebin.com/ADXBtcAA
https://quizlet.com/Kokok123

rimish
missionary

> Greetings. I am a /lang/ missionary from /int/. A few weeks ago we started the creation of an /int/ernational language for shitposting. I bring our work for anyone that wants to join
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>>8491562

Sweet
Kindly devote your time to translating Finnegans Wake into your new language and let us know when it's done
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>>8491562
ok, do you like books though?
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so is this an international NEET language? If so this is kind of amazing

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The Avant-Garde Reactionary Book Collection
https://mega.nz/#F!JIpXQAAZ!xyoPXTD38ItxJCvUYooWtA
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>Thomas Sowell
>St. Aquinas
>Tolkien
>Ann Coulter

truly red pilled my fellow red pilled friend but where's Art of the Deal
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>>8491527
>not all in English
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>>8491527
>no nick land
trash

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I am a successful self published author. I make $5,000 per month writing stories. Feel free to ask me anythinh AMA
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>>8491520

do you write commercial trash
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>>8491520

What do you get from lying on an anonymous image board?
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>>8491520
Assuming you're in short stories, where you informed or influenced by the short story writers of the 20th century?

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Do works of fiction require a moral to be learned after reading?

Can stories exist simply as imaginative voyeurism?
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>>8491503
It's a Victorian idea that literature has to be edifying, but reading can have that power.
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>>8491503
Just about anything can 'exist,' anon

Ideally a work of fiction or nonfiction gives you knowledge. Something to think about once it's over. Otherwise it's just a waste of time

That knowledge doesn't necessarily have to be an easily digestible moral, but there should be something that at least raises questions or gives you knowledge about something
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>>8491503
>>8491511

personally I don't think a book needs to be pushing a moral, but if a story is true to life you should be able to learn something from it, even if its completely your own construction.

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why was he trying so hard to be the frank zappa of literature?
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>comparing Pynchon to Vance Vliet's bottom bitch
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>>8491459
>Vance Vliet
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>Pynchon
>still alive
>all photos of him appear to have been taken in 1853

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Was he a cuck?
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Cucked by time
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No he liked pussy
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>>8491544
deep

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Is there still merit to maximalism as a literary paradigm?
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Everything has merit
Except this thread
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Idunno, but it's fun.
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>>8491412
It probably has the most merit.

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>he hasn't read the greatest book ever written
>2016 years after death

LOL
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why is dhalgren a forced meme when hogg was occasionally memed and always in an organic fashion
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>>8491373
people think this is the most complex book ever made
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Silly OP, he doesn't know there are around a million "greatest books ever written".

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Does anyone on here keep a journal?
What for?
Feel like sharing an excerpt?
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Without sounding to fedora/beta, I write in a journal to expand and explain my thoughts. To really let it out, because talking about "Is occultism a new age meme?" wouldn't really set well with everyday talk. Even to friends. I'd say it helps, but don't think you are writing some lao tzu type shit.
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>>8491766
>fedora/beta
Really depressing that such a simple joy in life as writing in a journal is viewed as "beta." Where did that come from, I wonder.

Keeping a journal is pleasant. Even if you only write in it once in a while or just jot down a few happenings.
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>>8491362
I keep one on and off, I have serious issues with anxiety and depression so it can helpful in two ways of stabilizing my thoughts without needing to share them and also trace my sense of identity which I find very difficult

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Dhalgren already came out in 1978 and successfully ended the postmodern maximalist genre...nothing can get more complex and better than Dhalgren
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>>8491360
correct. Foster's vain attempts to overturn the new order imposed by Delaney was simply an embarrassment
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>>8491361
The thing is no white male author has ever wrote a complex work like Dhalgren
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>>8491360
>Dhalgren
>complex
>mysides.gif
>not reading Bottom's Dream
>medalastima.jpeg

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What's the best, or your favorite Dictionary? Is a most up-to-date Dictionary truly so valuable? Have you elected to just use Google (Illuminati) to tell you what words mean?

Where do you fall on the issue of words-books, references, etc.
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>>8491359
Black's Law
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So now Google is tampering with word meanings on behalf of the Illuminati.

Way to go, man. But please >>>/pol/
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>>8491420
Don't bring politics into this, bitch. Just post your favorite dictionaries.

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So why haven't you read the most important post-war European author?
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whose that?
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>>8491370
thomas bernhard familia
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He's great, but lit is way too stupid for his work.

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Is this the best way to into Stephenson? I want something a bit more serious than Snow Crash.
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Why do people always ask what "the best intro to someone is"? Just read what you want to by them.
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>>8491255
I'm trying to figure out what I want, bucko.
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>>8491255

This. I don't think he's an author you really need to "get into". He's very accessible (I have only read Snow Crash, though).

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Disregarding all grammar and spelling errors. Is this guy's story telling ability spot on? How is it not the perfect story? (other than the content) I mean how it's displayed and written everything is self explanatory and really couldn't be much higher standing.


https://www.wattpad.com/159904091-michael-and-the-sex-goblin

He has other stories that are just as X-rated, but have an easy to follow pattern that is easy to read.

Discuss please.

NSFW writing. It's very X-rated.
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I dunno man, I'm not author but I think it has some potential. Seems to follow a lot of storytelling guidelines right?
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>>8491207
It could use some work, the structure is good, but I don't think I perfectly understand the real lust The Sex Goblin has for Michael. That could be conveyed a bit better, other than that, it's pretty much what I would define as perfection.

I could really feel each thrust, each moan, each little whimper that Michael would let out. The author definitely has a way with words. Looking forward to reading more of his work.
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You can't expect a serious discussion about this right? Are you joking? I might delete my wattpad after reading that. Who writes this? It has a good pattern and everything but there's so much homoerotica in it. I even laughed. How do we discuss this in a serious manner its literal pornography of a genre I can not define.

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Do you think it would be a good idea to have a /lit/ general? I know they're often viewed as cancerous on other boards, but sometimes I'd like to just have some lighthearted /lit/ chat and ask some basic questions without having to create a new thread.
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>>8491204
Yeah maybe.
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>>8491204
Yeah maybe.
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>>8491204

I don't see any harm in trying.

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name FIVE authors
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>>8491157
Ah ... wait ... fuck ... shit, I can't do it, OP. Good job, you got me. Time to stop posting on /lit/ now, let's all stop the show.
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>>8491157
>David
>Foster
>Wallace
>Thomas
>Pynchon
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first five that came in: Joyce, Pynchon, Steinbeck, Woolf, McCarthy

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Opinions, /lit/?
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Reddit books is where they circlejerk about feeling smart from reading literal children's literature.

My opinion is that you should fuck off there and not pollute this board.
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>>8491091

Never read it as a teenager but read it last year to see how it influenced LOST and I enjoyed it a lot, you could spin it was a book about British colonialism or the empire something like that but wasn't really that much of large theme.
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>>8491104
>I am le master 4chin man cannot discuss a classical work of literature it is le below me and my le elite chon clubmates

Not everything is a contest to see whos the smartest. The book isnt childrens literature and just because you have a bad superiority complex doesnt mean we wont discuss this book.

thx hunni x

>>8491113
>you could spin it was a book about British colonialism or the empire something...
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how is neo-victorian literature not the next step? Joshua Cohen knows this why don't you? Serialization, industrialization, class, science vs. religion, progress, nostalgia, utilitarianism, questions of social justice. People who know what they're talking about need not apply
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we are lviing in the dystopian cyber punk future.
The right thing now would be to write about the disastrous global warming future were we run out of water and technology fails us
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>>8491087
>how is reheating something from 200 years ago not the """"""""""next step""""""""
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>>8491117
that's too easy, we all know that won't happen.

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Anyone know of any authors or poets who focus on everyday life instead of any big event?
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>>8491071
Got any more humorous Sam Harris quote images?
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>>8491054
Ted Kooser

Where do you guys post your work for others?

Tumblr, dropbox, etc.

I'm looking for a new place to start sharing things for a large audience and am tired of using Google Docs.
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>>8490922
Medium
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Up you go.

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> In b4 fedora.

Im interested in reading Ayn Rand and want to know whether to read Atlas Shrugged or The Fountain. I have a philosophy degree so am not afraid of it being dense, but just want to know what is her best?
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>>8490905
Fountain Head without a doubt.

Well it depends I guess, do you want to hear her philosophy wrapped in terms of artistic genius and individuality or wrapped in terms of capital genius and individually.
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>>8490929

Either is fine, ive just found when i learned about her in school i had an obvious distaste towards it and her - but over the years have found ive moved from utilitarianism, to subjectivism, nihilism and then almost objectivist so would like to give her a fair appraisal. Whichever is a more captivating book i guess. Have you read both?
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>>8490905
*fedora tip* heh nice try kiddo

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All hope is lost, the memes have become so ascended as to reach a level of mass-produced culture. Imagine the generation this is going to produce and weep.
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old stuff. saw that ages ago.

makes it easier for those of us in class who can actually read shakespeare though. survival of the fittest.

On another note, perhaps it helps a younger audience get used to the plot, if not the themes of such literary work?
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>>8490871
But the means used to explain the plot absolutely rob the work of any nuance or style whatsoever. If you replace a character seeing his beloved with "lol saw a fit bird #player crying emoji" you're not going to get very far in communicating the plot of the original.
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>>8490881
Those who don't understand or appreciate literature will get this book. Even if they read the original play, they wouldn't care about nuances or style anyway. If they understand emoji and text-speak and understand at least something, it's not too bad a deal for them.

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i'm in search of medieval literature, preferably stuff having to do with knights like sir gawain and the green knight and other chivalric romances. what are the best editions and best collections? what's some stuff i probably haven't heard about?

thanks.
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Look in the archive, we have these threads at least once a week.
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>>8490875
where's the archive?
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The faerie queens is a bit later but awesome, also Check Ariosto and Tasso

Daily reminder
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>>8490817
>tfw no one mentions jung because muh science and, for pseuds, muh fruud
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just another trendy neopagan
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>>8490834
you know your stuff i see


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