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>tfw you try for years to get into lit and philosophy but consistently fail to enjoy it or spend a reasonable amount of time reading them.
>start working out and playing sports and im immediately hooked, after a couple of days i'm practicing for atleast 3 hours a day and most of my existential angst is gone.

It's simultaneously liberating and sad, in a melancholic way, to realize you're a pleb

pic unrelated
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reading doesnt alleviate existential angst. who told you that lmao

i usually go to the countryside at my parents house to help them with chores for relaxation. physical labor does wonders.

what did you pick up for sports?
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>>8481993
im playing football (soccer for amerifags) and working out. I think i might try to do some martial arts in the future as well, though i don't have the time now. The concept of being able to beat up most people is a very beautiful one to me lol.
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>>8481977
Make savage the body, make sharp the mind

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Who was top, and who was bottom?
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>>8481903
You just know Rimbaud was the top
Dude was a total alpha
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Rimbaud was much younger, Verlaine was already married, and he actually housed Rimbaud as if he were a dependent child.

Verlaine was certainly the top.
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>>8481903
I knew nothing about this until just now. This is some juicy scandal. It makes me want to read Rimbaud even more.

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I can't understand books without reading them twice, is there something wrong with me?
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>>8481860
Nope
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>>8481860
http://www.en.utexas.edu/amlit/amlitprivate/scans/goodre.html

Nope
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No.

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Any works written by authors at or before the age of 18? Sometimes they're called juvenilia.

In no particular order
-Jane Austen: Juvenilia
-Charlotte Bronte: Juvenilia
-P. B. Shelley: Zastrozzi, Original Poetry by Victor and Cazire, Posthumous Fragments of Margaret Nicholson, St. Irvyne
-Paul Bowles: some early poetry
-S. E. Hinton: The Outsiders
-J. K. Toole: The Neon Bible
-Lord Byron: Fugitive Pieces, Hours of Idleness
-Rimbaud: Most works
-E. A. Poe: Tamerlane and Other Poems
-Minou Drouet: Then There Was Fire
-Hilda Conkling:...
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Peter S. Beagles purportedly wrote A Fine and Private Place when he was 19. It's usually catagorized as fantasy, but it's sooo so good.
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Wasn't Frankenstein finished when she was 19 so she must have part wrote it at 18 you would think. Rough copy?
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>>8481852
Most of Poe's early work is just plain awful. In fact, Poe's poetry is just genially bad.

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So i'm doing my latin homework right now for my workbook and translating latin phrases to english.

Does in poetam have to be against the poet? My answer sheet says against the poet but can't it simply be in the poet? In the poet might not make sense grammatically and it is accusative singular which is direct object but i've never seen "against" yet come up in my book.

I know you can use a number of prepositional phrases including through, into, etc.
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>>8481845
>Learning latin
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>>8481845
I can't answer your question but I think that the anon who can would find it useful if you post the text in question.
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>>8481861

It's just tiny phrases like i said, once you nailed down what declension and all that tricky stuff, how to know what to use when translating to english.

in viam for example the answer sheet marks as "into the road" but is in the road just as correct?

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Does /lit/ read journals? What are some good ones?
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Chtenia.

Only real russiaboos can apply for a membership, not tolstoy/dostoy reading fags who ignore the rest of russia like old lasagna.
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The alaska quarterly review is outstanding. Highly recommended.
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>>8481743
>>8481756
>>8481759

These all seem great. Gonna note them down to subscribe to later.

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Talent in writing is useless. Literature as self-expression is pointless and subpar.
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>>8481725
Name a medium better able to impress the creators subjectivity onto the consumer than literature.
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>>8481725
yes

>>8481745
no
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>>8481745
2D platformers

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/lit/ you're the first group of people I thought of for this riddle/
>I can be as big as a plane
I can be as small as an ant.
I contain part of a plane
I contain all of an ant.
I share similarities to neither.
The foe to both is an ally to me.
I can stop a plane
I can be stopped by an ant.
I have what the plane does
I have what the ants want.
You can board a plane if you bought any certification.
You can board me with if you have the same.
You can watch as ants stem off in many directions.
You can watch...
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>>8481697
I know, you're a faggot
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>>8481697
my dick
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>>8481700
you're opinion has been noted anon

>Waters moving. Land of green, spleen mean to write her, thigh and woman, womanan new pffffffft. Leopoodoo Moon clip clopped the road to tram and ham sandymount strand. Wait! Trams stay away! Better to walk and talk, think and blink, stink pfffft. Salvator spoke of Spears Bloom bounced by the bay and broke.
Bloom, a petal of it. Bloom the boom, the sound and flesh. No fury, no nothing. Just horn and horror and teary streets with light bits spreading.

Pure genius!
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truly a master of the language
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>>8481682
You can tell this isn't Joyce, he never uses that many rhymes in Ulysses purposelessly, it also seems to have some random keywords thrown in to make it seem more legit (tram, sandymount strand). The sound and flesh. No fury, no nothing. went too far by reminding the reader of Faulkner/Shakespeare, a connection that probably would've been mentioned more in academia.

2/10
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>>8481693
Come on, give me a 3 at least.

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I was born 1970s Russia. I miss old Soviet Union. What books I should read?

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>>8481680

The Communist Manifesto
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50~ year old commie shitposts on 4chan
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>>8481680
Twelve chairs

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Do you listen to music while you read, or do you just prefer silence? Or how about white noise/nature tracks?
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I can't concentrate if I can hear voices so I use a lot of instrumental or ambient music. Shoegaze and death or black metal work to varying degrees as well. But for the most part it's turbo nerd music like dungeon synth.
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I listen to ASMR because for reason it relaxes me and puts me in a more comfortable zone to write with. I'm a skittish person.
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>>8481663
Music. Mostly Bowie or vaporwave these days.

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/lit/ is always saying read the Greeks this, read the Greeks that. So I am reading the Greeks, and Plato tells me that first you should master mathematics.

Has /lit/ mastered mathematics yet?
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Mathematics for Plato is what you learn in elementary school.
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>>8481610

Of course. If you don't at a bare minimum understand multivariate calculus you aren't really something I would consider human.
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>>8481616
mathematics for Plato was everything that was available at the moment in mathematics

also, mathematics for Plato also included physics

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Why did english have such loose grammar until ~1700
>no grammatical genders
>no grammatical cases
>no subjunctive
>no hard and fast rules about word order
Aside from the last one this also applies to modern english but it seems like the writers back then were making it up as they went.
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>>8481425
>no grammatical cases
>no rules about word order

How is it possible for both of these to be true?
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>>8481425
You need to learn OE then you'll understand what happened through the ME period into early modern English
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>>8481425
There was a hard word order rule, dufus, it's just changed since then. The word order in Old English (Anglo-Saxon) was SOV (subject-object-verb).

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>Nothing in the politics of a country wasn't first in it's literature.

Do you agree with this statement? Can you come up with counter examples?
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>>8481414

america
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>>8481417
Elaborate
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>>8481414
Who is this semen demon

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Is it worth it to get into Hobbes?
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>>8481367
I doubt anyone here has read it. I haven't even read it; it's been collecting dust right next to me for months. If you're interested in philosophy, then go for it
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>>8481393
I've read it. I had to read it for a poli sci class back in college.

My take on Leviathan is that I'm not buying Hobbes' overall take on "natural man." To me it seems like his model of natural man is just taking civil man and dropping him in the woods with no clothes on.

I'm more convinced by Rousseau's idea of natural man, which is that of a more peaceful, flighty and noble being.
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>>8481405
>tfw i could have lived naked innawoods if it werent for mans unsocial sociability

end me, senpai

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Where should I start with Lovecraft? Any flowcharts?
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>>8481182
At the Mountains of Madness is genuinely good, everything else I've started to read by him was kind of boring attempts at horror. But that book is brilliant
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>>8481182
If there isn't a flowchart, one should be made. He is discussed here often enough for that.

The chart should present distinctly his macabre/gothic tales, his dream cycle, and his Cthulhu mythos.

His macabre stories, from the earlier-mid period, hold up well and are usually an easily read ten pages. The Hound, Pickman's Model, The Outsider, Erich Zann. They're all good starting points.

His Dream Cycle is heavily inspired by Lord Dunsany, and is an acquired taste, too ethereal and...
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>>8481231
a flowchart will only encourage the plebs, do not grow the number of pseuds here.

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riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend
of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to
Howth Castle and Environs.
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i thought my cat's tail, who I didn't realize was beneath my desk, was some monstrous insect gliding or crawling up in my peripheries
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>>8481187
lol kawaii
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just do acid instead

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Which language is better, French or Spanish?
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>>8481095
Spanish will probably end up being more useful. It really just boils down to how much you like French literature.
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I speak Spanish to God, Italian to Women, French to Men, and German to my Horse. - attributed to Charles V - Holy Roman Emperor
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>>8481100
>Spanish will probably end up being more useful.
If you live in America

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Is this worth reading?
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>>8481088
David Foster WALLLLLLLLLACE
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>>8481088
Depends. I love DFW as much as the next guy, but only read halfway through. The early parts on the history of infinity were pretty interesting, but when it gets into modern mathematics you need to be into that scene to really get it.
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Sure

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For sale: One Cards Against Humanity game, never opened (friends not included)
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>>8480944
I'm glad it explicitly says that that's whiskey there.
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>>8480959
They looks like spanking paddles or big fucked up ice cream
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For sale: 1x Durex "ribbed for her pleasure", unopened, near mint condition.

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What is the essential "I feel isolated under post-WW2 industrial society" core for literature?

Is this something that film is able to capture better than literature?
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>>8480892
Tommy Python
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L'eclisse is fucing incredsible
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>>8480921
not sincere enough.

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I wanna get into reading books in English. What are some easy to read books for starter? Will I ever be able to read great works of literature in English?
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>>8480818
English is the easiest language on the planet.

Read literally anything that you think you might like, it doesn't matter.
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>>8480818
Sure you will, dude

Some books that I started my dad off with when he wanted to get into reading english (he has been living he for 20 odd years and is fluent and everything but just doesn't get the same feeling out of reading) were:

>Stoner
>invisible Cities
>Master And Margarita
>Blood Meridian

he enjoyed all of those and they're all pretty simple so you might...
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>>8480823
I tried reading the raven by Poe and I couldn't understand a thing.

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Hey guys, I've decided to write an e-book.

The subject doesn't matter to me. My initial instinct is to find an issue that lots of people have to deal with and/or fix. It needs to be a common problem, but also complicated enough to warrant 50 pages of ebook.

Would appreciate for anyone who has done this before to shoot out some pointers for publishing ebooks on Amazon. I'm sure they have forums for this kind of stuff, if you guys know any legit ones I'd value your input.

Thanks, and feel free to post/ask questions if you are also interested...
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>>8480783
it helps if the subject does matter to you
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>>8480783
kys
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great idea op

make sure you read bradbury and other famous short story writers for inspiration

keep us posted, we want to see how thick solid and literary you can get

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this guy? or someone else
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>American
>philosopher
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I would say CS Piercedeserves that title more so than James to be honest
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CS Pierce

So, how is this book? Worth a read?
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>>8480720
if the trojan war gets you hard, then sure. it really doesnt compare to homer though
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>>8480739
This.

It's definitely worth a read though. In Latin.
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>>8480757
I'm not learning latin.

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Anyone here published?

Whats a good way to get started?
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Write a good book that's not terrible and garbage
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>>8480726
because no one ever got rejected before when submitting a great book, right?
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Have friends or family in the publishing industry. This usually helps.

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Do you guys know some great poems or prose excerpts about prostitution and brothels?

I was looking for more realistic stuff, not the romantic view of the subject.
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>>8480667
Pimp by Iceberg Slim is great.

Post more thicc.
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Boule de suif
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>>8480685
>>8480690

Can I have some quotes?

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of all time
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objectively huh?
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>>8480660
>>8480678
Nice samefag

Also it's fantasy... not scifi
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>>8480698
what

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Jar Jar Binks Fixes the State of Things by Doing Absolutely Nothing Useful Edition


Recommendations:
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/

>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/

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first Meida Gladstone
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Why are 40k novels so bad?


Who would you get to write a 40k novel and do them justice?
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>>8480204
>>8480236

Why do Spatterlight's ebooks have such shitty covers? I looked up the one for Showboat World and it's clipart quality.

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How can you write a catcher on th rye sort of attack on society and cause psychos to kill celebrities and politicians?
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don't do it, butters
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>>8480547
The modern recurrence was that guy that shot up that cinema at that Batman movie showing. So epic maymays OP.
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>>8480547
Radical ideas and charismatic characters.


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