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recently brought the pic related version "penguin classics" of lolita but i suspect it has been censored, would anyone be able to confirm or recomend me a version that is not
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google it fag
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>>8806065
What makes you think it was censored? Did you buy it expecting graphic depictions of sex with a minor?
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>>8806084
from reviews it seemed to be a little more controversal, but this version seems rather tame, so yes is that answer to that

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I have a kindle but I also like having physical copies of the books I read, so I usually buy the book and then download an ebook and read it on my kindle (lighter, can read at night, easy to highlight), or if I bought it from the kindle store I always try to buy a physical copy too.

Does it happen to you? How do you decide which books you'll read in x format? Do you make annotations? That's another reason I like having the physical book so I can write on the borders.
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I've tried reading from my computer, kindle, ect. but I just can't do it. I Always go physical even if it's usually more expensive
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rich fag problems the thread
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>>8806046
who's that qt?

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Where should I start if I want to understand ideology?
What other authors should I need to know before delving into mah boi Zizek?
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>>8806036
Hegel.
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>>8806036
Hegel, Marx and Nietzsche are the three bad dudes who rip the mask off ideology the hardest.
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>>8806036
Sublime object of ideology
but before that watch his films:
The Perverts Guide to Ideology
The Perverts Guide to Cinema

Read some secondary info on zizek, I would recommend the Introducing series - get the one on Zizek, it goes through his whole philosophy easily.
From my perspective Zizeks ideology can be seen as another rebranding of Stirner's spooks, probably wouldn't suggest delving into Stirner at this point in time but if you search up Stirner Spooks explanation you could probably...
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>tfw reading the original untranslated Canterbury Tales
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>>8806033
I for one am deeply impressed
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>>8806033
pretty sure most university undergraduates in lit are required to read canterbury untranslated. Whenever we discussed it we read it "untranslated". It's not that big of a deal.
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>>8806033
Anyone who isn't an idiot can do this. Fuck off.

Anyone know any cool books set in or that are about Colonialism? Narratives would be preferred. I've read Heart of Darkness and really loved it, but didn't like Things Fall Apart.
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Robert Aldrich's Colonialism and Homosexuality might be up your alley.
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>>8805924
Just start collecting Campaign furniture.
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No critique thread?

Let's change that. Here's the opening of a sci-fi short story I'm writing
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>>8805889
Make sure to remove as many unnecessary "ands" as you can. They disrupt the flow of a sentence. See whether the sentence needs to be comma'd or just separated into two new sentences. Ideally, you wanna be able to read it out loud without feeling too awkward about it.
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>>8805897
b-bb-but Corncob uses ands like they're movie theater popcorn
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>>8805889
Consider revision to the present tense, might work well.

I don't like sci-fi as a genre, personally. Not sure what other notes to give you. I was bored reading this, the world-building was tedious and took away from what little action was happening.

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Is Dave telling the truth? Did all the abuse really happen?
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Doesn't seem that far fetched.
Doesn't particularly matter to me either.
I'm much happier with something that's as inconsequential as this being in doubt than having people try to portray the truth and coming up lacking.
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How much has he donated to helping children in troubled homes?

That is the amount of truth behind it.
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I stand by what I said in my 9th grade book report. "It" stinks.

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What do ya'll think of Edgar Allan Poe?
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>>8805863
He was a Maoist.
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>>8805875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdCdpOl2j_U
Sauce
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>>8805863
He married his 12 year old cousin didn't he?

Pretty good writer though. I liked his story about "The Literary Life" of what ever his name was.

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Post T H I C C books
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>>8805872
>>8805877

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If you aren't writing for at least a couple of hours a day, you might as well stop reading.

>tfw an idea for a short story comes to you as a flash of inspiration and you nurture it, build it, develop characters and dialog, and it comes to life in a way that surprises you
>tfw the creative process separates the artist from the consumer
>tfw people who only read and never write think they're getting the same out of literature as the person who writes and reads
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>>8805843
i write four chin posts for several hours a day
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>>8805843
Well, that's some grade-A horseshit.
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I write my best stuff after a hiatus. This is prbz b8 tho

I'm rereading the divine comedy and having trouble understanding Virgil's motivation. Can someone please explain to me why Virgil offered to take Dante on a tour through Hell and Purgatory, and later make Beatrice take him through Paradise?

As far as I can tell it was just an arbitrary plot device, but I wanted to know if he explained it in a way I was too dense to pick up.
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He explained it: because Beatrice, a redeemed soul straight from the Empyrean, cared about saving Dante's soul so much that she left the perfect contemplation of God's face and descended into Hell itself to find the one man Dante respected most, living or dead, and entreated him to help save Dante's soul. Virgil, who of course died before Christ and can never pass through the fire atop Purgatory to Eden, let alone proceed to Heaven, is still the noblest of the pagan souls in Limbo. He leaves the Hall...
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>>8805880

The "limbo" for those before christ never made a lot of sense to me.
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>>8805885
Just limbo until the second coming. Relax Anon.

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Everything is meaningless. By extension, this includes the fact that everything is meaningless, meaning that everything has exactly as much meaning as you want it to have.
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>>8805785
What philosopher are you relaying? Is it Camus?
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>>8805785
Go to /his/ faggot.
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>>8805785
wicked

Should I?
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should I?
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>>8805773
It says out of stock right there...
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>>8805773

just download the pdf off the internet

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Anyone read this? I just read it all for the second time, this time in one sitting. It's a beautiful novel. I really love how sincere Bernhard allows himself to be when discussing Paul. His pessimism is present, but when he speaks of Paul Bernhard becomes tender.
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>>8805755
i read the loser, it surprised me since i read it effectively at random, i haven't read any since though i am extremely keen on doing so in the future.
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>>8805755
>>8805818
The loser is great, that was my first Bernhard novel (read it because I'm a big fan of Gould). Yes and Old Masters are good too.
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>>8805908
cool, gotta bernhard buddy, didnn't know about gould until i read the loser, incidentally, but boy what a treat it was listening to his variations with the story still buzzing around in there, it was great.

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How do I get the motivation to read?
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Think of all of the dipshits out there who aren't reading
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>>8805745
Just think: I'll be bored either way, I might as well be bored in a productive way
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Start with the really easy to digest and get engaged in stuff, like Stephen King and the Best Sellers or whatever else gets you going from 0 to 100 real quick. Just something that's light and quick and doesn't make you feel like you're suffering to get through. Something that's fun to read, that will make you actively want to read.

Then once you've retrained yourself to sit down and read a novel again, you can start reading challenging material and/or literary works.

Irvine Welsh is my go to. Whenever I've had a dry spell from reading...
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having a cup of chai, a 125mg cannacap and reading Ulyssess chapter 4. feels good. how's your night.
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>>8805708
Is cannacap natty or is it that bastardized lab shit that's a bit like bath salts?
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>>8805708
>reading on weed
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>>8805711
100% natural. I get it from the dispensary.

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Hand written / signature psychology thread. Lets see your styles for when you write your stories /lit/
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>>8805610
also credit card and PIN general
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>>8805618
What do you think the psychology behind my signature is? Or what kind of writer would I be, is what i mean
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>>8805640
Big pretentious start, convoluted middle and a stale fizzle out of a finish. Says a lot about you & your writing style, my dude.

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where should i start with gothic literature aside from pic related?
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>>8805608
The Monk
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>>8805609
go to the lit wiki you fucking pleb
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>>8805612
meant for faggot OP
>>8805608

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I have never related more to a work than Kafka's letter to his father.
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>>8805601
>tfw simultaneously the underground man and rei ayanami
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>>8805607
How many layers of autism are you on, m'dude?
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>>8805611
enough to chaik those fukin dubs

What was your favorite elementary school book series and why was it the Magic Tree House, /lit/?
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>>8805495
It was Goosebumps and the Hardy boys, although Magic Tree House took a close third.
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>>8805495
Mine was Eragon.
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>>8805495
Calvin and Hobbes and Goosebumps

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How do you properly convey a sense of humor into your stories? I'm writing a short story where 2 philosophies are being addressed and I feel like it would be best if I can at least make the story funny in some sort of way. Its more on the absurdity side.

Any tips on this? I'm not an unfunny person but i'm a little stuck on this.
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>>8805481

Just add in a bunch of cliches and act really self aware about them. Make it post-modern, write about yourself writing the story, and comment on how it's such an "I'm trying to impress my first year writing teacher" thing to do or something.
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>>8805481
talk some shit, imagine you're in conversation with a loved one who you make laugh a lot, and try to insert those scenarios organically into your stories. i dunno, just try not to take yourself seriously, and if you notice something that seems like it would be ripe for wit in your natural writing, then you should carefully insert a bit of embellishment without overdoing it. no one likes being beaten over the head with a joke. if you're not naturally funny in your work, it'll be hard to shoehorn that...
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>>8805489
>Make it post-modern, write about yourself writing the story, and comment on how it's such an "I'm trying to impress my first year writing teacher" thing to do or something.
That's actually a pretty good idea. Thanks.

>>8805492
I've thought about making the plot ridiculous as one can be, just total nonsense (but easy to follow of course). I don't want to take it too seriously, that might ruin the story.

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OC POETRY THREAD? ILL GO FIRST THEN ITS UR TURN

no title

>After hours of silence
>A small breath of morning light
>A year had passed since
>Our past full of strife
>Now that it's settled
>We can look forward to more
>It's too late to sleep in silence
>We've been there before

UR TURN

JUST...
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>if you fart in the right direction sometimes you can smell it coming towards you
>fists are chained to our farts, sailing winds blow smelly breezes
>ankles are chained to our farts, the slower we walk the greater the fart
>and lastly our soul is chained to our farts, as we live in them, we die in them
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>>8805415
There
cold and abused lay
a lone chip who entered the fray
a collared bone, a loose collar,
a pulsating quiver in the array,
fulsome fistulas prance and flout,
praising cranberries rise and claim their clout,
I breathe with sausage and groan with beef,
a sailor's phrase your wife to queef.
we habit ourselves with mush and quakers
a tribulation for left-handshakers.
I breathe sausage,
and choke on beef,
My soul connives and flees its sheaf.
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>>8805415
>first its slant rhyme
>then a full rhyme
FUG YOU :DDDD

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do I have to read great american novels to write a great american novel?
them shits is long, dog
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>>8805340

Isn't gatsby a great armenian novel it's like 200 pages max
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>>8805340
i would unironically read any novel written by allen iverson
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>>8805394
just because it's in the title doesn't make it great

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How can I read 500 pages a day, like Uncle Joe did?
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>>8805328
Step One: Get smallpox
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>>8805328
is that a real statistic? if so....what the FUCK? is that why his country went to shit and he slowly went insane? cuz he was just spending all his time reading shit.
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>>8805336
>stalin sir, we're running out of potatoes and vodka
>mhm, lemme finish this chapter, Levin is mowing grass, and call me crazy, but it's more entertaining than anything else in the book thus far
>b-but sir
>to the gulag.

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Should I?
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Y E S
E
S
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>>8805254
That price is really high, isn't it?
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>>8805272
its literally a readable coffee table

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what's the best literature from eastern philosophy?
should I even bother?
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>>8805232

there was a decent thread on this not so long ago

https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S8753225#p8767835
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>>8805240

ignore the shit about guy debord, start at the top
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How do I into Buddhism?

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You're telling me Pynchon has been imitating his dead Cornell buddy for the past 50 years?

Is it any good?
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why don't you read it and find out, retard
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I've been waiting to see if a thread about this ever came up. I started it but had already read too much Pynchon Kerouac and Burroughs for it to seem fresh. I never finished it. Maybe if I was still in college it would've enticed me more.

I'm sure Farina was a swell guy however.
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I fuckin love it, I'm also a fan of The Farinas music though, so I come to it with a bias

Not really Pynchonian except in the overlap of 60's counterculture and the sense of humor that goes with that. It's definetely a young person's book, but I don't think you'd have to be young to enjoy it. Young once, maybe.

I'm inclined to compare it to Emmett Grogan's Ringlevio: fictionalized counterculture autobiography where the main character is the coolest cat around and does drugs and courts girlies and speaks t-r-u-t-h ETC yet...
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general rec thread.

also asking for something like Barthes' Mythologies
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>>8805157

Plimpton, Paper Lion
Bouton, Ball Four
Hillenbrand, Seabiscuit
Lewis, Moneyball
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>>8805157
if you don't hate Simmons, the Book of Basketball is pretty good

>that may be a big if
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/20/sports/playmagazine/20federer.html

Who would be his favourite philosopher, /lit/? What books was he reading?
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bump xD
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Plato

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Can literature evoke as much emotions as music can?

I mean, I could live without literature but not without music. Does that make me a pleb?
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>>8805110
indeed it does my man
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>>8805110
Du bist ein pleb
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>>8805110
>Can literature evoke as much emotions as music can?
Even more so

>I mean, I could live without literature but not without music. Does that make me a pleb?
I couldn't imagine a life without either of them.


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