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Starting with an easy one.
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>>8463066
Taipei
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>>8463066
doors of perception
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Infinite Vice

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I may be in the minority here but this is one of the few books I wholeheartedly regret wasting my time and money on.

Should've just re-re-reread Neuromancer desu.
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>>8463035
>Now I'm wasting a thread on it too
>>>/sffg/
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>>8463035
>not liking the delivorator.
I shiggy diggy do da
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>>8463035
What did you dislike? I haven't read Neuromancer myself, but I really loved a lot about this book.

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pic related is mine
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Did he write this one before or after he impregnated his cousin?
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King Bolo’s Royal Body Guard
Were called ‘The Jersey Lilies’—
A bold and bestial set of blacks
Undaunted by syphilis.
They wore the national uniform
Of a garland of verbenas
And a pair of big black hairy balls
And a big black hairy penis.

-T.S. Eliot (seriously-this is just an excerpt)
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Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Sam T. Coleridge. That shit is metal as fuck.

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I wrote this when I was drunk over a year ago.

What does /lit/ think of this in terms of a very short "slice of life" story?
"Are you good dude?"
The propensity flows over me, as it has many times before.
"Yea man, I'm fine....I'm definitely good to drive."
He looks at me with a slight look of concern
"Whatever you say pal, have a good night."
"Yea, you too."
I take off from the front door, stumbling to my car. "I should have stayed over," I think to myself as I unlock the car...
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>>8462927
Pretty good.
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>>8462927
Kind of pretentious. Also lacks proper motive. No person drunk enough to think they're okay to drive would ever question if they are ok to drive. Plus he was offered the night why didn't he just stay? Its not that odd. The narrator also seems to be relativley clear of mind. If I was that hammered and I got on the road my mind would be somewhere between dazed and delirious. The road, the trees, the cars would all be remembered as a blur, and your writing does not reflect that. Theres also no sense of suspense....
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>>8463750
I thought it was pretty accurate to driving drunk...I never feel good about it, no matter how drunk I am. You're always conscious you're driving drunk and that you could get pulled over. Maybe some drunk drivers just don't give a damn, but most reasonable people are conscious like OP, in fact driving drunk can be sobering because it makes you nervous.

That said OP I like it but some of the wording is a little awkward.

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Which philosopher is the most fun to read?
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Derrida
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>>8462923
Nietzsche
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Kant

also you have shitty taste in music

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is there a point in reading another taco book other than don quixote if I want to learn to write in taco?
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>>8462840
funny
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>>8462840
ya lots
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xD

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Greatest male or female characters of all time?

I'm looking to study and discuss amazing characters in history and literature, and I mean amazing in the broadest sense. They don't have to be considered moral, popular, heroic etc.

I'm just looking for interesting and deep characters.

Pic related is a fascinating character for her outsmarting the church.

I'd like to see amazing characters from all walks, any political or cultural identity is fine as well.

Thanks.
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Satan, Paradise Lost, Milton
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So you're looking for character driven works? Do you care if it's in first person? Have you tried Lolita?
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Maldoror

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Philistine here, haven't touched a book since high school's required reading. What do I have to gain from reading?
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>>8462792
The thoughts and stories of other people
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>>8462792
Well thought out perspectives on the world other than your own.
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>>8462792
Bragging rights and an inflated sense of superiority

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most enjoyable book ive ever read
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>>8462784
Good book. Good movie too
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Check out Yeager's autobio while you're at it. Mailer's Of a Fire on the Moon too if you don't mind his dabbling in his own brand of pseudo-psychology.
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>>8463102
Holy shit I just started a thread about this

What are some interesting non-fiction journals, diaries or reports of expeditions into the new world?
I'm thinking about encounters with savages, huge unknown animals and ruins of lost civilisations.
Can we get a thread on this, /lit/?
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Historical travelogues are always fiction.
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>>8462777
I remember reading about a book (I read more about books than actual books, thanks, /lit/) about this crazy American adventurer who got lost forever in the Amazon jungle while foolishly searching for some Eldorado-like fantasy. The book sounded pretty comfy. I think the name of this guy was Percy something. That's what I know.
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Saga of Erik the Red

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In "The Raven" did the protagonist kill his fair maiden Lenore in a crime of passion ? I feel that the raven is a messenger from the devil that's purpose is to warn the protagonist that he is going to Hell.
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>>8462773
He's telling the protagonist that his lost love really is lost forever. She's not in the afterlife. There likely isn't one. He's fucked
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If there was a single line in that poem which hinted the protagonist killed her, that would be interesting. Unfortunately I don't think there is.
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>>8462786
Is the bird supernatural or is the protagonist hallucinating that the bird is speaking ?

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Is there a character who feels desperately alienated and isolated from the world around them, even though the world around them would be at a conventional standard of "peaceful". I'm not looking for a dystopian book (unless of course-) I'm looking for a book that's just like the world we live in today (which the narrator sees as an awful place). That's how I see the world, I want someone I can relate to, I just loathe every waking day I have to wake up and exist in this fucking place, it seems like everywhere you look there's flaws and oppression,...
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>Dostoevsky, Notes from Underground
Superfluous men of real feeling in a world of self-satisfied conventional bourgeois nihilism. Failure to live up to those standards makes the character a fuckup.

>Celine, Journey to the End of the Night
Sorta the same, nihilistic misanthrope, but character less of a fuckup.

>Houellebecq, anything
Try Atomised and Whatever. You can read them in an afternoon.

Try the Houellebecq first actually dude.

Maybe Huysmans,...
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jean-
NA
paul
US
sartre
EA
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>>8462788
If you do read the Huysmans though try A Rebours (Against the Grain).

>>8462793
Good idea

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What are some goo books that cover the topic of being at a dead end for a lifestyle?
>love literature/music/art/film but all are useless majors
>doctors are too stressed
>law is too saturated
>I dont want to work in an office forever
stuck in the middle of nowhere in the middle of fucking delaware

I'm not depressed, just unfulfilled.
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sounds like you've got a case of the pseuds
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>>8462737
Naive Super? Walden? Shoplifting from American Apparel?
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You need to work for a couple of years before you go to college or else you'll just develop a drug habit and end up dropping out anyway.

You already smoke weed fairly regularly.

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of the 20th century

the only one that comes close is Sam Delany
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>>8462727
yeah, he was the last american writer that was actually good
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Calvino, Carver, Houellebecq, and Gaddis all blew him the fuck out.
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>>8462727
Roth and Delillo are better.

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>good at writing, decide to write articles for an eSports scene I'm interested in
>pretty big scene, not as big as LoL or Dota but decent following
>good at writing normal articles, but kinda not enjoying it as much as normal writing, can't really express myself
>pitch EoC a new idea, satire
>follows through
>post my first satire article, at this point normal articles are amassing...
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>>8462686
Most very serious depressing novels are actually funny satires. Like Kundera, Kafka etc. It's being done all the time.

Hell even the Pynchmeister is all about the funnies.
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>>8462686
Melee hell?
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Just read humorists and satirists. They used to be popular when people still read books. Check out Wodehouse or Kingsley or something.

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would you say he was intelligent?
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>>8462677

sure why not
other than >muh relijn
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>>8462679
this
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yes he was brilliant

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What is /lit/s take on Hunter S. Thompson? Do you think that the events of the Fear and Loathing stories actually happened as he said?
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>>8462620
pretty good and no
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>>8462620
He's the only English language writer I can think of that writes in first person present and makes it work. Recommended.
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>>8462620
>dude Nixon sucks, lmao, now let me tell you about how much cocaine and alcohol I do, it's really edgy!

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What is /lit/'s consensus on Brian Herbert?

Did he follow in the footsteps of his father, or was he just autist that tried to turn Dune into Star Wars?
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His father was at least a visionary.
He on the other hand is a complete and utter hack
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whore
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>>8462613
Garbage. Does he even write any of it, or is he just drinking buddies with KJA (who churns out like five books a year)

Also >>>/sffg/

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Should I learn learn French or Dutch? I want to learn a nice, easy language.
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>>8462607
Dutch is like English speakers who didn't learn German well. French is poncy pretentious English. Whichever your heart feels closer to.
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>>8462619
Which is more useful
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>>8462721
Who can say?

Neither is all that useful until you can use it.

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Would you like to discuss Bartleby the Scrivener, /lit/?
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>>8462603
The poor little weirdo. What is his deal?
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He's the American Akaky Akakievich, just wants to make copies and be left alone.
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Read it in freeman lit. My professor did everything he could to trash it, but I liked it.

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How did he do it, /lit/?
How is it possible for one man?
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>one man
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weed
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>>8462566
Sorry,
*one black woman

What's the best way to get introduced to Arthurian legend?
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Historia Regum Britanniae
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>>8462523
game of thrones
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The death-a artie

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What do you think is the best book in the Bible from a literary perspective? I'm reading the Book of Job at the moment. It's beautiful.
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Ecclesiastes
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Not in standardized bibles, but the Gospel of Thomas by and far for me.
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Probably not the best but Jonah is wonderful, it has the conciseness of the best bible stories while being nicely self-contained, it's like a great piece of short fiction

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ITT: books where every character is unlikable
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your diary desu
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I wanna say Loving by Henry Green, but by the end you end up missing everyone in it anyhow, so I'm conflicted.

Great book, though, strangely unforgettable once you've read it.
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>>8462454
Retard heathcliff is my favorite character of any novel.

>gets fucked over by situations out of control
>bitch cucks him
>runs away to get fuckin jacked and loaded and cultured
>comes back and fuckin makes them all die from sheer force of hatred


I also named my cat after him :3 rate cat

>The veiling shadow that glowers in the East takes shape.

Was J.R.R. Tolkien referring to the Soviet Union? Is Mordor an allegory for communism?
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Communism, industrialization, atheism
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Tolkien clearly stated that his works are not allegories
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>>8462452
He formulated Middle Earth before 1917, right?

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a fucking fraud....

His greatest work, Ulysses, was a COMPLETE rip off of the Odyssey...yet lit fans give him a pass
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Finally, a lad with some brains
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>>8462456
thank you
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>>8462440
he's Scottish, you twat.

What are we reading, /lit/?
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>>8462419
Just finished Peer Gynt by Ibsen, pretty impressive but I need to ruminate some more before I can form a proper opinion.
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>>8462419
WHY DIDNT HE EXPLORE MORE OF THE STOCKHOLM SYNDROME

Also Ned was best boy
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>>8462419
>Twenty Thousand Leagues
Be sure to read The Mysterious Island afterward
Based Nemo

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If a man wishes to do something against his moral code, and really regrets he can't do it because of said code, can you really say he's loyal to his morals or are there other things stopping him from doing it(fear of consequences, etc.)?
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>>8462349
you can say that unless his reason is not that he is loyal but that he is afraid of consequences
stupid question
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>>8462366
but if he follows a certain moral code, he shouldn't crave doing something which goes against it, yet he does. my question is, what is stopping him if his morals failed him?
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>>8462376
You can't control what you instinctively want. Your morals are what stop you from giving into every craving you have. It is what separates us from animals.

Example:
Pedophiles can't help that they are attracted to children, but a man of strong morals will be able to stop himself from acting on his urges, even if he knows he will not be caught.

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I can't decide what to do.
I want to express my thoughts on civilization, human behavior. If I write it directly, when I read what I said it sounds too deep for normal people to understand. They would probably think I'm a lunatic or something. My thoughts are very chaotic so it's hard to write a structured essay or book, I ask too much rethoric questions. For me it sounds too dry, like I'm tryng to shove my thoughts into other brains. It's probably boring to read too. Maybe there is somekind of guide about writing a philosophical book?
However,...
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kill yourself. it perfectly expresses how autistic you are.
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>>8462340
Why do you think so?
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Why don't you summarize your "thoughts on civilisation and human nature" here, so it can be discerned what medium your ideas should be framed in.

Not to be rude, but your post makes me doubt whether you have anything original/insightful to say. Prove me wrong.

All discussion is welcome here, with an emphasis on recommendations.

I was asked in another thread for books that focus on the mystical aspect of our Faith.

This article is a good overview and gives you many authors whose works would be beneficial.

Special attention should be paid to the Fathers for anyone interested in a deeper understanding of the Ancient Faith. The mystical nature of Christianity is seen most clearly in their writings.

>The Holy Fathers set forth their thoughts, their heart, the image of their activity...
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http://www.orthodox.cn/patristics/apostolicfathers/mystic.htm

here is the article mentioned in the OP
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Graham Greene, Heart of the Matter, End of the Affair
Shusaku Endo, Kiki's Prayer, Silence
Gene Wolfe, Book of the New Sun, Peace
Aleksandar Solzenickin, Gulag Archipelago, First Circle
Flannery O'Connor, Complete Stories, Wise Blood
Teresa of Avila, Interior of a Castle
John Henry Newman, Story of a Convert, Apologia Pro Vita Sua
Thomas Merton, Seven Story Mountain, Thoughts in Solitude
John of the Cross, Dark Night of the Soul
Meister Eckhart, Complete Mystical Works
St. Augustine, Confessions
Ivan Gundulic, Tears of the Prodigal Son
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>>8462359
I occasionally see Graham Greene mentioned here and there, what's a good reading order for him? How would you describe his writing?


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