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Point me to a nice edition of moby dick, please.
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>>8455268
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>>>/r/books
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What are some books that will make me go "man, fuck having borders and laws 'n shit"?
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>>8455245
that is a cute kitty
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essential "fuck everything lmao"-core
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i dunno, you tell me, what books make you go "man, fuck having borders and laws 'n shit"?

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The Big Sleep or Long Goodbye?
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Long Goodbye without a doubt. Marlowe's stoicism and integrity in the face of all the chaos elevate it from detective schlock, although to be honest i havent read the big sleep since high school.
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>>8455244
The Long Goodbye is a better work but The Big Sleep is seminal noir. i haven't read both in ages, but i remember laughing a lot more while reading Sleep than Goodbye.
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>>8455244
honestly i might like Farewell, My Lovely the most.

that fucking opening of the first chapter with the description of Moose was so fucking witty. hell, that whole chapter had me in awe.

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anyone else hate the word "poetry"?

I have a massive prejudice against it. If someone says "I write poetry" I immediately judge them as a tumblr-tier pleb.

If they say "I write poems" I'm far more inclined to be fair to them
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No, why should I?
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>>8455238
Autism: the post.
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>>8455238
You're insane and should swear off 4chan.

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How do you deal with the inevitability of death, /lit/?
Hard mode: no spiritual beliefs, purely materialistic worldview.
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From a purely materialist standpoint there's literally nothing I have to deal with
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Generally with this kind of attitude.
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>>8455200
>Hard mode: no spiritual beliefs, purely materialistic worldview.

But then I'd be giving a dishonest answer.

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what's in the ahsc? missed reading catch-22 and catcher in the rye, so i went back and finished them this year. happily surprised - particularly with 22. what else is in it, what else did i miss?

>gatsby
>huckleberry finn
>sound and the fury
>to kill a mockingbird
>sun also rises
>all quiet on the western front
>murakami
>some...
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Shakespeare (Macbeth, Julius Caesar, Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet)
1984
Brave New World
Night
Grapes of Wrath (alternatively Of Mice and Men)
The Scarlet Letter
Antigone
The Crucible
Fahrenheit 451
The Odyssey
The Awakening
Their Eyes Were Watching God
That's all I can remember rn, I'll probably post more if they come to me.
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>>8455172
Besides the stuff that was already mentioned here's a brief list of things I remember being assigned in high school

The Assistant
Go ask Alice
The Old Man and The Sea
Jane Eyre
The Things They Carried
Pride and Prejudice
Things Fall Apart
Ethan Frome
Angela's Ashes
Gulliver's Travels

There's more that I don't remember as well as those. Also I think the kids in this one AP history class had to read Candide.
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Clockwork Orange
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Great Expectations
The Bluest Eye
Death of a Salesman

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I was just about to buy this book to read for fun, but I don't really know much about it. Can anyone provide a short summary without spoiling too much or just don't spoil the ending of it?
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>>8455130
>marries Chandler's style with Philip k. Dick's vision

So it's a genreshit slurry.
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>>8455139
I read it a few years ago and this is a pretty good description, other than that it's not as bizzare as dick's stuff usually is.
The main thing I remember is that there were a lot of animal-people in it. It was OK.
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>>8455130
Out of the 4 books I've read by Lethem, this was the only one I disliked. The characters aren't as vibrant as the synopsis makes it seem, and the whole thing is just kind of hollow.

It would make a good film in the hands of the right director, though.

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This made me cry today /lit/

Is there something wrong with me?
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you should read better books
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>>8455121
What about it moved you?

I'm reading it for the second time, I'm on the last couple chapters.
The first time i read it I enjoyed it but the second time around its absolute shit. reads like a tumblr blog sponsored by various companies and music labels.
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>>8455129

Miss Saeki's got it/lost it/found it relationship with her boyfriend/his spirit/Kafka

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Did I miss something?
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>>8455089
What would there be to miss? It's just shit and you got memed.
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DO NOT FALL FOR THE MEMES
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>>8455089
Yeah

Tao Lin's hard though

I recommend starting with Bed, then read a Lorrie Moore short story collection, then Bed again, then move into his novels, it'll start to come together

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>Faustian
>Orwellian
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>>8455079
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>>8455086

>Ingsoc wing death squads
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>dystopian
>utopian
>Malthusian
>fascist
>regime

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Guys, I would like to learn how to ask myself a better question for reflection.

I am currently planning to do some kind humanitarian / volunteering in UN, but when I ask myself "why" I am not quite sure. I just want it but I don't feel that's quite satisfying.

Therefore, I ask you, what kind of methods to analyze yourself? Can I use the Socratic Method to analyze myself to reflect on my motives?

Pic unrelated
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The Socratic method is more useful for defeating answers than it is for coming up with them.
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>>8455012
Analyzing yourself is overrated. I spend 10 years doing it instead of living and it was not worth it.

Just do what you want m8. There's no higher meaning out there anyway.
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>>8455012
I've been trying this thing called Focusing. It seems to be working alright for me.

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I'm a complete pleb when it comes to poetry. When I read a poem, I can tell a lot of it is going over my head. Should I just keep reading more until they make more sense?
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>>8455006
yes
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No keep reading the same one until it starts to make sense
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>>8455006
Start with easy stuff like Wordsworth, look for basic metaphors, like colour and stuff. Then move on to structure.

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How do you read works like Divine Comedy, Paradise Lost, or The Odyssey? It's so fucking difficult, I hate it so much when I can't just keep reading a book, and instead I'm met with road blocks that have no obvious explanation for what they mean. This is one of the reasons why I fucking hate classic literature, you have to be in some sort of classroom in order to be able to actually get through it. What the fuck!
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>>8455001
>the odyssey
Did you skip the Iliad?
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>>8455003
YEah...
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Start small brother. Nothing wrong with excerpts for now either.

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What's his deal with Nazis? He thinks Hitler went to Chile or what?
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>>8455013
Well, I mean, Nazis DID sneak off to the southern parts of Latin America. I guess he never fully recovered from that fact.
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His Nazis are metaphorical. They are literary commentaries. He explains it in an interview. You can find it on youtube.
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I don't know if BolaƱo thought Hitler came to Chile, but I know old fascist movements in Chile thought fictional native american figures in this region were basically Spartans from ancient Greece/descendants of Aeneas.

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Ok guys, where do you buy books?

I usually buy from bookdepository, but I'm angre at them at the moment (long story short: they send me some books that where just terrible editions and when I wanted to return them they asked me to pay for the shipping, which was like 60 dollars!).

Living in southamerica makes shipping cost very expensive, so, any free-shipping is good for me.

>Wordery used to be good, but they no longer send books to my country.

>kennys.ie is also good, but its a little bit...
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>>8454855
there's a used bookstore like 15 blocks from me that has an unexpectedly magnficent selection of books. i just bought
the trial
collection of kafka short works
siddhartha
one day in the life ivan denisovich
eugene onegin
glory
and a book about russian avant garde books from 1917-34

they are a boon and i am glad to support them.

although sometimes i buy books on amazon if i see an edition i really really want or a book thats pretty rare.
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>>8454855
nice wyvern
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here, thriftbooks and some street stalls.
where do you live op? never had that kind of problem with bookdepository and i am from mexico

what's the most accessible, easiest to read version of the odyssey, but which won't feel like I'm reading a children's adaptation and still feels poetically beautiful enough for someone who wants to read for pleasure, not academic study? I'm also looking to pick up a copy of the illiad too.
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Pope, really.
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>>8454850
just pick the good version, all of them are accessible
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http://www.press.umich.edu/17212/odyssey/?s=look_inside
Enjoy

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Armenian literature man, tell me all about it.

What am I saying, nobody legitimately intelligent or cultured visits this place.

>((((reverse psychology will work))))
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i know very little about Armenian literature but am interested recommend me some works of Armenian literature
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All I know about Armenia is there was a genocide on them by the Turks
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Armenia being a very small country, you can forgive us for not knowing anything about its literature

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masterpiece
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>>8454817
epic post OP!!!!!!!!! screencapped
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We don't call it that anymore, OP.
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>>8454820
include me in the screencap please

What would you guys say is the best way to forget someone who made your life bearable and then left?

Are there any works about this particular subject I should seek out?

I will not go into further details because I don't want this thread to become a blog. I'm asking a legitimate question.
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>>8454799
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? (it's a movie though)
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>>8454799
incolor tsukuru by murakami is a book about a guy who lost suddenly the 4 most important friends of his life (this isnt spoiler)
i guess you might like it
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>>8454810
I heard about it, but I'm afraid it might make things worse.

>>8454818
Never read anything by Murakami before. Can I go straight to this one?

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What's the best website with a very wide selection for finding academic book torrents?
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Doesn't lib.gen and bookzz have a bunch? Is lib.gen back online yet?
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>books
>torrent
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https://libraryofbabel.info/LoB3D.html

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Is this supposed to be fucking unreadable? I thought if I just went for it that I'd at least get a notion of what's going on. I read the first five pages, I felt this cold and dry feeling inside my head, very unpleasant. There's a guy shaving, some sort of gunrest, someone's mother who was murdered, and all sorts of strange things which I have a hard time understanding how they even fit into the narrative I'm reading. In this book, I may come across a few sentences that seem pretty straight forward, then come to another few sentences that I just have...
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>>8454716
That is one book like the movie 2001 A Space Odyssey where plebs discover it every year and don't know WTF it's about. Then 5-10 years later are the first to say it's the GOAT work of its artform.
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>>8454716
I'm guessing that either English isn't your first language or that you aren't that experienced of a reader yet. The first couple of chapters of the book are pretty straightforward. I doubt most people on lit would have any problem with the first chapter. It's later on that it becomes more challenging.
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>>8454716

Well if you've ever been across England's border it's pretty obvious that Scots are naturally hard to understand.

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This will be my first Ayn Rand. I saw this and Atlas Shrugged in a box and picked up right away. What am I in for lads? Is this a good Rand starter?
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how old are you?
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>>8454704
22. why?
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prepare for the pseudo intellectual Kant fags to jump on you.

It's a great book to read early. I've pretty much lived my life by objectivist principles since reading her books.

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ITT books that are the same no matter what order the chapters are in

I've had the audiobook in shuffle, and it's interesting how little it changes.
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>>8454680
I would argue there's a subtle but certainly extant intensification of the narrative that you'd lose

But for another example, Ulysses
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How does that even work
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>>8454680
The Bible.

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Does /lit/ read RotTK? What translation do you read? I'm enjoying the Moss Roberts translation immensely.
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>not reading a book with 108 protagonists instead
GTFO
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>>8454662
I played Dynasty Warriors. It's basically the same thing.
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>>8454685
I admit that's why I wanted to read the book but I'm really enjoying it, and previously having played the games makes it easier to remember who each character is

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How do I sound less pretentious when I talk about literature with people?

I genuinely believe that great literature has a lot to teach about our place in the world and all that shit, but I'm worried that I come off as condescending when I talk to peers about books.

Anyone have experience with this? I'm a college student who wants to go into seminary, hopefully to become a pastor. Literature has helped clarify a lot of key points of my faith and I'd like to be able to share that in the least pretentious way possible.
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>>8454630
Its really in the tone. You can have a geniune and passionate conversation with anyone about anything, even shoehorning in your most autistic opinions, if youre friendly and sincere. That and be open to friendly debate.
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>>8454630
You can't possibly not sound pretentious because your goal in life is to preach nonsense at weak minds and wishful thinkers and shun all who understand subjects better than you do.

Go fuck yourself.
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>>8454630
It sounds like pretense is your bread and butter anon. Maybe try the scientific method and stop approaching problems answer-first-question-later.

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What does /lit/ think of this memer?
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Gluttony is a sin.

I rest my case
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>>8454612
His memes are great, witty as fuck. But can annoy people who dislike his style/Christianity.
I see him as a Catholic Nee Che.
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>>8454619
I am a faithful Catholic and I think he is great but slightly overrated by Catholics. A bit too fortune cookie-ish for my taste

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Is Paradise Lost better than the Divine Comedy? Just finished the third book and it's fucking beautiful. If Milton maintains verses like his stanza on blindness all the way to the end then I think I've found my new favorite epic.
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The answer is of course no.
PL is mostly read in anglo circles while Comedy has such a degree of universality that it has had a far greater influence and touches more people.
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they're both good you dip literature isnt a competition you autistic fuck
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>>8454625
I dunno anon, the story of Paradise Lost seems a lot more universal and moving than a dainty Italian mamma-miaing his way through hell

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I want to read novels and short stories about circuses. Where do I start?
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Do you live in South Carolina by any chance?
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>>8454608
lost in the funhouse
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Cirque du freak

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>"One of the books that caused great harm was James Joyce's 'Ulysses,' which is pure style. There is nothing there. Stripped down, 'Ulysses' is a twit."

is he our guy?
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Who dat?
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>>8454558
he's right though
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>>8454560
Paulo Coelho

>"dude you have to read this book it's the greatest sci-fi book ever it'll change your life!"
>finally read it
>boring characters
>boring dialogue
>boring worldbuilding
>literally nothing happens

Why is this book so praised? I like other Heinlein novels but this is so mediocre. When /lit/ criticizes about the writing style of golden-age science fiction authors...
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>reading for the plot
lmao
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>>8454533
I'm about 100 pages in right now, and it's a nit of a slog. They don't focus on The Man from Mars at all, which is a shame, because when they do I like it.
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is any scifi good?


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