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What does lit think of this man? I'm new to literature and have just read the Old man and the sea (enjoyed it) and currently reading The Sun Also Rises.
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>>8451145
PLEB PELB EPLB EPLB EPLB EPLBEP LBE
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>>8451154

Edge egde egde gede dege
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It's good for entry level reading. Ideal for young boys to read.

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Was universal literacy a mistake?
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humanity was a mistake
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mankind was a mistake
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You were a mistake.

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>You will never goof around with Hans Castorp, discussing the illusion of time.
>You will never just walk quietly with Joachim Ziemßen.
>You will never listen to Naphta and Settembrini having brilliant discussion
>You will never pretend to speak French with Madame Chauchat.
>You will never joke around with Behrens.
>The 20th century is over.
Why even live?
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>>8450999
> It's The Whole Novel is a Mouthpiece for Schopenhauerian Philosophy

> Why even live?

Ask Schoppy.
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>>8451294
It's more about the comfy lifestyle mixed with the introspection.
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>>8450999
>Never hear Chauchat slam the door while having dinner
>Never make eye contact with her
>Never waste time with Karen knowing she will die
>Never learn to properly wrap yourself in a blanket
>Never experience the winter and summer blending together

Why even live?

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i'll start with the obvious
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Cannery Row
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the ultimate compendium of comfy, starting with heaney's translation of beowulf. haters need not apply
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Tell me what you think, dont be gentle

Farewell my
love,
she says,
while ol´ Ben is
shaking loudly, and
girls are
screaming their lungs out
at nobody in particular, and
the sky is roaring
with fireworks
but there are no colors, and
boys are outside
marching
in the parade, but no one is
smiling, and
farewell my
love,
she says,
and daddy´s
gone.
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>>8450973
Literally just a bad run on sentence that somebody clicked a few times following random words and pushed enter
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>>8450975
lol you are actually not far off from the truth
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>>8450973
What's the significance of cutting the sentences to form new lines? Sometimes a single word is its own line; I never understood how poets determine which to cut, and where.

Mind explaining your technique?

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What did she mean by this?
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Love doesn't really exist. It itself is a prejudice
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>>8450926
I have this book in my library should I actually read it? I've got a long reading list but I'm willing to bump it up a bit if its recommended.
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>>8450948
It is definitely worth reading, but there is no need to bump it up your list.

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"He could not fucking die. How could he leave? How could he go? Everything he hated was here.”

Great Endings Thread
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>>8450924

spoilers
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It's also really cool how Roth references that final line in his two next books (American Pastoral and I Married a Communist). Additionally, a minor character from ST also appears as a minor character in The Human Stain, so see if you can spot him.
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He could not, fucking, die.

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Recommend me some books to enhance my vocabulary, I fucking talk like a retard most of the time.

Pic unrelated.
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>>8450911
misspellers dictionary
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>>8450911
Is that Albion?
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>>8450970
Yes, beautiful isn't it?

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ITT: /lit/erally me
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>>8450878
>spoonfeed me mammy
fuck off
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>choice between reading or oxy
>snort some oxy to decide
>decide to read, mind is scattered, pop a tram to calm down
>snort some more oxy
>too fucked up to read, decide to smoke a bowl

One of these days im going to actually read, mark my words
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>>8450878
Joyce was such a genius.

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any good poems that express or talk about the beauty of visual imagery, photography, film?
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any language will do
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look up ekphrastic poetry
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>>8450890
ok

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Where did Ralph Waldo Emerson say that reading is mostly drudgery but occasionally leads to treasures? I'm having trouble finding the exact quote.
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The American Scholar / Phi Beta Kappa address is close maybe.
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We are too civil to books. For a few golden sentences we will turn over and actually read a volume of four or five hundred pages.

Maybe this?
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>>8450966
This is actually pretty clever and even close to the truth, but Emerson's still an asshole in my book. A witty one who can inspire you to be better, but an asshole and a hypocrite nonetheless. You can very well apply this quote to his own works, with his long and obscure essays and lectures besides the most famous one you've all heard of, On Self-Reliance (which itself has very pointless digressions he apparently expects the reader to be enthralled by), although I'll admit he'd probably want you...
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I want to read something that may actually help me think of how to be successful and more sociable and I keep getting this recommended. I figured I'd come here and ask if this is a good book or if there are better alternatives.
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This is a book for cucks, don't be a cuck.
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>>8450737
I'm trying to avoid cuckery. Please show me the way.
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>>8450744
>trying to avoid

real man does not try, he just does you cuck

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Only way to get to know "entity alone as it is", while living is through sexual intercourse. Yes? No? Discuss
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>>8450688
what's entity?
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>>8450692
thing as it is, aside from sensual visual form, in platonic sense, i dont know how to say it in english
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>>8450709
so what flavor of tantric are you then?

I loved the book, I get tattoos of things I love, sue me. Would this be an acceptable one?

Also I know DFW had a chapter on why he thought tattoos are silly, I appreciate the Irony. But I don't have to agree with everything he says.
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Not only did "DFW" have a tattoo, but the tattoo was the name "Mary" for Mary Karr and he wasn't even dating at her at the time, she was married, and he was just in love with her... yes, and then, years later, get this, you're gonna love this, he got the "Mary" struck out and got an asterisk tattooed there that led to another asterisk further down his arm where there was another woman's name. A footnote.
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having tattoo will not make you any more normie/devious/whatever
if you want to try it for novelty of it just get some cheap temporary tattoo (you can ""wear"" it ironically if you want then too)
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>>8450674
This is glorious.
This has been witnessed.
This is now a meme.
> I <3 u /lit/

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Recommend me some good Irish books.They can be fiction, historical, drama or whatever. Recommend me some really good Irish literature, I want to get in touch with my roots.
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It's too bad that there are no Irish authors
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Have you heard of this guy called James Joyce ? He's really good !
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>>8450593
What, do you mean Irish language? because if you don't know a single book from Ireland then you're probably too stupid to read what we're going to recommend you.

just finished this. it was amazing. a sheer tour of force. it was so funny I laughed my pants off. if you truly hate Jews, which I don't, you should or shouldn't read this. WTF I WANT TO BE JEWISH NOW. go grab a copy at your local barns and Nobel. great read. one for the century. the characters are so true to life. it's like reading a mirror that another person is looking through and you can see them. it's so life like. a true genious.
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did you actually read it and if so did you actually enjoy it, or are you posting in an ultra-ironic way so that if we say it's shit you can say you were kidding about liking it?
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>>8450586
no I liked it. I thought it was really funny and it seems like some book we would obsess over. I guess it's not popular enough for that.
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>>8450594
if there were a third jewish meme book, it would be in the jewish meme trilogy along with adam levin's the instructions

alas, there is no third jewish meme

we humbly and patiently await its arrival

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How the fuck do I write a female character
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>>8450404
become a female
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just write a person and then add tits
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>>8450404
just write a male character but remove logical thought and etc.

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What do you think are the greatest works of fiction of the 21st century? (pic related)
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>>8450401
It's only been 16 years.
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The 21st Century canon so far:

Agapē Agape
Against the Day
Middle C
Behead All Satans
Yurope and Yurope 2
The Magnificent Third Rail
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Min Kamp

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"What the really great artists do is they're entirely themselves..."

>plot from Shakespeare
>style from Pynchon
>dialogue from Salinger
>characters from Dostoevsky
>themes from DeLillo
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>>8450392
DFW never said he was a great artist though
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>>8450392
>>themes from DeLillo

this is the only one you're right about

also this
>>8450399
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>>8450400
the incandenza brothers = the karamazov brothers

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>STEM fag turns into pseud: the novel
I'm really enjoying this so far desu, I now see what lit/ means when they say you should only read "proper" literature. I haven't been able to put it down.
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The ending destroyed me. I didn't know it was possible to get that blazed.
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Hijacking thread.

Recommend me some NYRBs brahs.

Do you think death or torture of characters in literature should always push the story further? Is using character death for shock a cheap trick? Is using a character's death for a cliche sad moment a cheap trick?
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bump
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>>8450335
It doesn't necessarily have to progress the plot but it should be thematically or aesthetically relevant to the broader text.
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Gore pr0n sort of requires it.

Beyond this, if it can do something more to highlight aspects of the story, of themes, of characters, or give useful (for the reader) vent to an author's parenthetic obsessions, then sure.

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What does /lit/ think of this novel, or just coming of age novels in general?

>inb4 john green

I am pursuing writing in this genre, are there books anon would recommend? Is this too low brow?

Personally, speaking on pic-related, and considering I have only read it once time nearly two years ago, I think it's brilliant. I am obsessed with the vibe he creates; hard to digest it's his only novel.
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>>8450278
Personally I am redpilled, proud to be a man, recognize male superiority, realize that all women are roastwhores who lust for Chad cock, and who are incapable of true love, being ethical, and being loyal.

If you want to see how feminist are BTFO find Milo Yiannapolous on youtube, he dstroys all SJWs.

Biggest mistake of mankind was giving women the vote.

Read Schopenhauer's 'On Women' if you want the truth
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Coming of age novels are some of the best books ever written. That book isn't though.
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>>8450290
help me get my feet wet, yeah? have any suggestions?

>>8450287
third-wave feminism is not an equality movement but I can handle the ones who are true egalitarians; also pussy.

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Why read a 1000-page book when you can get the same thing in 89 minutes from F for Fake?
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>>8450274
because you enjoy a well written book?
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Convince me to read this after I finish TBK.

Is it boring (in the sense that there's nothing thought provoking/profound)? Is it interesting?

Background: new to lit - I read IJ before The Brothers K, and both are really fucking good. I didn't IJ anywhere near as hard as people say.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCXVxE_YeP4

Mainly for writing; the clarinet is both soothing and stimulating.
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my own
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>>8450267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLI6RgfieyQ

fuck my shit up
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>>8450267
Final Fantasy 8 OST motherfucker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6kAwpgW29M

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Is this book difficult?
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No.
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nah
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Not really.

Why bother studying philosophy, ethics and morals when nihilism is the logical conclusion?
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There's more to philosophy than ethics.
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>>8450176
To get a job.

Seriously, though, because it's fun and studying other stuff is boring.
Philosophy isn't about reaching conclusions, think of it more as mental gymnastics.
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>>8450176
NIHILISM???

ARE YOU FROM FUCKING PLEBBIT OR WHAT?

THIS IS 4CHAN, WE ARE LARGELY RELIGIOUS BECAUSE WE'RE LARGELY ANTI-FEDORA

TAKE THE REDPILL AGAINST NORMIES

WE ARE AGAINST NORMALCY

WE ARE AGAINST ACTIVE SEXUAL AND SOCIAL LIVES

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Actually loneliness has a kind of fascination; it's a state of egotistical, inner grace that you can achieve only by standing guard on old, forgotten roads that no one travels anymore.
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>>8450111
nice trips
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>>8450111
V E N A O
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A
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>>8450111
Nah. It's mostly just painful.

Do you think Grossman picks books to translate based on their merit, or is she just a hired gun?

Going through her translations many of my favorite latin and spanish books were translated by her, was wondering if this list is useful as a portal towards other spanish language /lit/
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>>8450040
Her translation of Don Quixote is shit.

Tobias Smollett is the best translator of Cervantes.
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>>8450141
Well, Bloom thinks its unbelievable, but Marquez actually told her he enjoys reading his works in her English which seems to be high praise. Clearly she isnt just some darling to publishers like P&V
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>>8450143
Marquez was referring to Rabassa's translation, and it was half-jokingly.

Bloom's introduction to Grossman's Don Quixote is probably the worst introduction I've ever read. I'm not exaggerating. He spent the entire introduction talking about Falstaff.

Bloom has nothing to say. He likes Andrew Hurley's translations of Borges too.

> or is she just a hired gun?

Yes, you need to re-translate in order to make those copyright gain$.

It's weird how, when you start to read the novel, you like Ignatius, you think he's funny, and then, slowly, you start to hate him, because he's such a prick, and he's mean to everyone around him. You want to like him, but you can't. But when you reach the end of the novel, it's even worse: you start to empathize with him. You understand his struggle, his hateful behaviour towards the world around him.

I feel really weird about Ignatius. I often see him in my daily behaviour and I immediately get scared, I'm afraid I'm slowly becoming...
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>>8450034
>Thoughts on that character?
Nothing of worth has been written in the last 800 years and Ignatius sheds light on that fact. That reason alone is enough to admire him.
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>>8450034
HE'S LIKE /R9K/ IMPERSONATED LMAO!!!! TAKE THE REDPILL

HE'S LITERALLY /R9K/ JUST LIKE THE UNDERGROUND MAN, THEY ARE EXACTLY ALIKE
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>>8450324
not funny btw

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http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/03/daily-chart-2?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/revengeofthenerds

Have you grown hungry yet?
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>>8449989
Two problems here: first, most people on here don't have degrees in English or Philosophy but rather just have an interest in them, and second, money isn't everything and if material wealth is your goal you will die a poor man.
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Jokes on you, I'm probably going to leave with my masters in biochemistry because I don't like science anymore. Instead i spend time in the lab writing and working on my novels/stories.
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>>8449989
>thinks obscene wealth matters

So long as we live comfortably -- which, if you're not a complete fucking moron, isn't all that hard -- then you'll be fine. If the pursuit of material gain is your only goal, then you've truly crippled yourself intellectually.


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