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Post books, that should be burned!
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>>8436683



THIS IS NOW A RIDDLE THREAD

What goes on four legs in the morning, on two legs at noon, and on three legs in the evening?
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>>8436721
the human

next one sphinx
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Pulp by Charles Bukowski.

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retarded tropes in fiction

>Africa will be a technological superpower in the near future
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Are you sure the topic isn't
>things that jeopardize OP's fragile sense of whiteness
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>>8436664
Well the West is killing itself, Japan's population is dwindling, China and India are completely broken, and the Muslims who are going to be replacing most of the world are about as Luddite as you can possibly be. So Africa and South America are really the only places left.
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>>8436694
Canada and New England are doing fine.

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Any screenwriters out there?
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>>8436627
Here? No

There are a bunch of faggots with Microsoft word documents willing to call themselves screenwriters though
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>>8436640
kek
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>>8436627
Post passages

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It wouldn't allow anything unoriginal content like:

- communism, Marx, Zizek and so on
- egoism and Max Stirner and so on
- Ayn Rand and so on
- John Green and so on
- Nietzsche and so on
- potential edgy literature such as Schopenhauer, Machiavelli and so on
- commonly popular books and so on
- the Greeks are absolutely forbidden except for the obscure known ones and so on
Etc.

It is of course not going to happen but I am tired of seeing the same content over and over on /lit/.

Whatever such a board would function remains to...
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Yeah, because it totally works out on /r9k/ right?

Just go to a different place, jesus christ.
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>>8436555
so basically /r9k/ in its common state
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>>8436558
>Yeah, because it totally works out on /r9k/ right?
I know this and described it. You cannot know before hand what happens.
>Just go to a different place, jesus christ.
I expected butthurt and was prepared. Using our savior Jesus Christ in vain was not expected however and equally disturbing.

That makes me wonder whatever Christian theology should be allowed or not.

Thanks for the contribution anyway, it wasn't particularly good but expected.

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What does /lit/ think of my infinite jest poster/book cover/ idk what it is I just made it for fun. If you read the book do you think it's a good image that portray IJ? Even if you did not read it, do think it's a decent design?
I ushaly leark on /ic/ but I love to read and was wondering what you guys think.
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is this supposed to be bait?

if this is serious your cover is not bad not good and probably nobody here gives a shit
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>>8436546
New fags can't triforce
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Here's a lino cut I did of virginia woolf

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I missed out on the Infinite Jest Book Club at the beginning of the summer, where can I make a irl book club with a bunch of other autists/super-normies.
Should I just wait for next summer for the next IJ book club on here?
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I own four copies of this book, and I can prove it.
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>>8436537
prove it
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i own zero copies of this book, but can't prove it

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>tfw to intelligent to read
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>tfw too intelligent to be a feels poster
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>>8436509
>tfw to intelligent to read
>to intelligent to read
>to intelligent
>to

yeah, we believe you
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>>8436509
fucks sake mate at least get your spelling right

sheesh

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Hello /lit/, I'm a college freshman and I'm taking a literature class and the teacher had us read The Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.

We have to write a paper and answer the prompt "Discuss and examine [...] Marlow’s misguided patriarchal tendencies and how those tendencies create tension"

I personally didn't think the book had much to do with his "patriarchal tendencies"

Am I going to a shit college?
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>>8436495
>patriarchal
There's like two female characters in the entire novel
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>>8436495
If this is a real question and it is the only question you're allowed to write on. Then yes you're at a meme college consider transfering immediately
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>>8436495
this is bait right? If not, get the fuck out of that course or university. Funny enough I had to read the same book for my obligatory Postcolonial Studies course. Needless to say me and a few other class mates weren't too thrilled having to endure a topic that didn't have room for opposing views.

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I'm learning a language and trying to read stuff in the original, but I keep getting bogged down by vocabulary and thinking about how I'd probably get just as much if not more out of a translation. Any recommended ways to mentally prepare oneself for reading foreign stuff slowly and confidently?
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>>8436442
maybe find something with parallel text? then the translation is right there and you don't need to keep looking up words you don't know.
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>>8436442
One common mistake is start reading stuff in the target language too late or neglect vocabulary until they find themselves incapable of reading literature for adults.
Memrise/anki are great resources for vocabulary expansion. They're not perfect, but another common mistake is wasting more time researching resources than actually learning.
Watch movies, listen to music, set your devices language and everything to the target language.
Buy a pocket size dictionary and keep on reading until the struggle is gone.
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>>8436453
>you don't need to keep looking up words you don't know.

That's how you learn languages though.

You read something after you established a limited vocabulary while you keep expanding your understanding of the grammar and when you come upon a word you don't know you look it up and remember it and all it's conjugations and what not

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Has anyone always wanted to write, but felt like you'd be shit at it so you never bothered?

I've wanted to be a writer ever since I learned to read, but I've always felt like I've never had the chops. Even just saying "writer" makes me feel like a pretentious douchenozzle. All I want to do is write a book and see it on a bookstore or library shelf. I don't even care if no one reads it.
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>>8436399
You'll never publish anything if you don't start writing. Remember that even the great writers get rejected.
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>Write a book
>Get a vanity press to make a few copies
>Sneak one into the literature section at your local bookstore
Bonus points if you explain what you did in the afterword and provide contact info
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>>8436460
This but do it through Amazon/createspace instead of a standard vanity press because it's cheaper that way.

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So I'm helping my girlfriend teach a SF book to her high school honors class. These are 10th graders going into AP next year so they should be able to handle most things.

I'm looking for any assistance /lit/ might be willing to provide in terms of the lesson plans, exploration of themes, literary devices, etc.

Here's a link to the presentation on SF in general, any comments or recommendations are appreciated.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1QHeNS4AZp5ySlntINxqPEqDm7RNSdMcWFDSVKgdAgFc/edit?usp=sharing

The book in question is Blindsight...
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waaaay too many words on each slide. pare that shit down.
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>>8436383
Science fiction, unlike most other literary movements is much less homogenous, insofar that it is more different literary traditions which later on branch and mix with other ones.
So you'll have to divide it into sections, early age, golden age, new wave and science fiction since unrelated to any particular movement.
It's also important to note that most of it is absolute trash and it is important not to focus on bad works a lot of them are going to read anyway.
Science fiction is probably the...
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>>8436419
Blindsight was chosen because it's an important modern work of hard SF. It's almost as scientifically-rigorous as SF can be. As to its influence, it's been huge in the field of neurobiology and explores some of the more disturbing themes in SF, crossing over with Lovecraftian cosmic horror pretty well.

As to sections, we're more focusing on it as modern lit- so we're thinking of touching on themes prevalent in various decades rather than walking them through Shelley and Verne on to...
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Have you ever started a good book, but realised that the translation is pretty bad and while not destroying the original work entirely or even making it bad, it makes it significantly worse? It happened to me with my translation of Byron's Don Juan.
>that feel when my english isn't good enough to read the original, but It's good enough to compare two fragments and notice the gap in quality
>inb4 massive pleb reading translations from fucking English out of all languages
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Take some time off from reading, and intensively study literary English. Even native speakers have no idea what the fuck
>Man's love is of man's life a thing apart, / 'Tis woman's whole existence
means unless they've read poetry before. Lord Byron is also a perfect example of an author who liked to write in intentionally archaic language, emulating the Faerie Queene in particular.
Your post sounds 100% native, by the way.
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>>8436372
Good annotated editions for difficult works anon. That does the trick. English isn't my first language but there's no way I'm reading a translation. No reason neither.
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>>8436372
same goes for aristotle in german

Is this the most entry level book of all time?
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good one, OP
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>>8436368
Literally on my desk right now
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>>8436368
No I believe its this

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Anything I should before I kill myself?
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>>8436351
Learn to spell.

Play Umineko.
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>>8436351

Man's Search for Meaning, by Frankl
you have purpose
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>>8436351
watch leafyishere, the popular youtube internet celebrity

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Did you guys read Steven Pressfield's Nobody wants to read your shit? What did you think about it?

Also, would you guys have an epub of it?
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Cliff pls go
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>>8436327
I really wanted the epub though.
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I don't want to read his shit.

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Opinions?
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>>8436312
BEE's best by a long way, good but not great. it can seem like it's got a lot of filler, but everything is there for a reason, to immerse the reader in the mind of a psychopath. it's effective at that, which makes for a sometimes disturbing reading experience, like a poor man's Lolita.
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>>8436312
Kind of what >>8436448 said. It was an enjoyable read for me, but it's not a spectacular novel by any means. If anything watch the movie first and then read it for the meme factor.
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>Excited to read it after the movie
>bought it
>started reading it
>expected passages of him detailing what people are wearing
>know that there's a point to it all
>carries on into page 100
>a hundred pages of judging people by their clothes
>he scooped a black hobo's eye out(or stabbed him im not sure) and he killed...
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I have wanted to figure out how to make a writing which is nothing more than playing around with words, it's difficult for me to accept that with something as, say, a drawing, you can make something which has entirely no meaning, but when you're writing something there has to be some sort of objective with what you're writing. I wish that I could find a way to make, say, abstract writings, writings which have no clear purpose but instead just play around with words, in a rather beautiful way if possible.
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>being this underage
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>>8436250
have you tried glossolalia?
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>>8436274
>glossolalia
by who?

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You have read the Summa, right /lit/? Don't tell me you skipped the greatest theological work to ever exist. not including the Holy Bible of course
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I would guess that I've read more of the summa than anyone else on this board. somewhere between 40 - 60 pct of it.

I fell hard for the Dante memes.
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>>8436182
Augustine > Aquinas
Augustine carried forward the Neo-Platonic tradition to Christianity that we still bask in the light of.
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>>8436247
This

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what are some good pieces of literature that will help me become a better man?
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>>8436140
The Bible.
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>>8436140
>look up philosophers that had their shit together
>read their works
it's not hard senpai
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>>8436140
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius is the GOAT for this purpose.

A lot of Jack London and Ernest Hemingway is good for this too.

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How does /lit/ manage to read so many books at a time? Is there trick/method, or do you all just have no lives?
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>>8436017
i read books while iam waiting, i.e. in public transportation or in parks.

try to always have a book on side while you are waiting for someone or travelling
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>>8436110
this. never get on public transport without a book, even if you're going to be reading standing up crushed between other commuters in rush hour. obviously that shouldn't be the the bulk of your reading but it trains you to use otherwise dead time.
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>>8436110
>>8436137
I wouldn't even consider this reading

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How do i get into Philip K. Dick?
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>>8435980

Unzip his pants and use lots of lubrication.
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>>8435990
Don't be such a Dickhead.
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>>8435980
You don't, you let the Dick into you.

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>reading any Christian religious text other than the complete, infallible, and perfect word of God which is only to be found in the King James Bible

How can you plebs even justify reading any other version?
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So all Christians who existed before the king James version got it wrong?
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>>8435971
King James is cool. Most poetic. Also the first to give name to Lucifer after the Vulgate.

NRSV is my jam, endorsed by CS Lewis, and also the most scholarly translation.
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>>8436196
What do you have against Lewis?

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>“In his extreme youth Stoner had thought of love as an absolute state of being to which, if one were lucky, one might find access; in his maturity he had decided it was the heaven of a false religion, toward which one ought to gaze with an amused disbelief, a gently familiar contempt, and an embarrassed nostalgia. Now in his middle age he began to know that it was neither a state of grace nor an illusion; he saw it as a human act of becoming, a condition that was invented and modified moment by moment and day by day, by the will and the intelligence...
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>>8435931
>a condition that was invented
what?
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>>8435944
He's saying that by the intelligence and will of the heart, over a period of time, a condition is invented that one experiences, which is commonly called 'love'.
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>>8436047
>a condition is invented
sounds like scientifical bullshit nonetheless.

"a condition took hold of him" would sound better

by the way, who wrote this?

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hey, this is only 80 pages, this won't take lo-
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>>8435913

i read it in one sitting

i think you are supposed to. it gives the "life in a second" afterbook vibe
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>>8435918
I don't like doing that at all, I need to contemplate what I'm reading to make sure that I'm understanding it before I go on. A lot of times when I read something I feel like I don't really understand it, so I have to re-read a paragraph multiple times, just so I feel confident in the absolute that I have fully understood what I've read and wouldn't need to go back and re-read.
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>>8435922

Same here. I need to digest the prose itself or else... why not just sparknotes book, you know?

I fucking hate how time consuming it is tho. 15 pages per 1hr is fucking slow.

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Apparently, Sorokin is a big name when it comes down to contemporary russian authors. He has been nominated for the Man Booker and the Nobel Prize.

I read The Ice Trilogy and I liked it, but the last 300 pages were pretty boring, as things were pretty repetitive back then.

I've heard Day of the Oprichnik is pretty good.

Which other contemporary russian authors are worth checking out? Igor Vishnevetsky?
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>>8435893
Haven't personally read anything by Sorokin, but I'm hearing from all sides that he's great and also that his style is sometimes difficult to translate: styles of old russian legends, tales and stuff like that. Days of the oprichnik and Telluria are the ones I'm hearing mentioned the most: Telluria is apparently in some way using po-mo citations of Howl by Ginsberg.

From my own perspective I can tell that Sergei Lebedev is really great. He hasn't published much so far, but everything...
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What about Mikhail Shishkin?
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>>8435893
I really liked Ice Trilogy. I agree that parts dragged, especially the repeated conversions/awakenings, but I can see it's deliberate to create an incessant, nauseating kaleidoscope that gets as many cross-sections of Russian society as possible.

I thought the ending was super lackluster however, and was very much a cop-out. I don't even necessarily mean in a plot sense but that it felt thematically empty and unsatisfying to the stuff he was trying to explore regarding faith, chaos of modern life,...
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I recenty get into David Lynch movies and I was wondering where did he got the inspiration for his work

Is it from some books?
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Kafka and Kline are major influences.
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he's gone pretty firmly on record as saying that all of his ideas originate while practicing transcendental meditation, and that he doesn't try to think about things in a conscious manner along the lines of what you seem to be suggesting
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>>8435899
What about his decision to fuck up twin peaks?

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Hello, fellow /lit/zens. I'd like your help, please.

Which are some books published under the Oxford World's Classics label that are better editions than the ones from its peers or simply the best from the series? I'm thinking of buying the related one and <<maybe>> one more, because these books are not cheap here in Brazil (but this week they're cheaper than the normal for some unknown reason).

If you like the Norton Critical editions more I understand and actually agree with you, but unfortunately they are not being sold at our...
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I'll vouch for the quality of Oxford's pre-Socratics (first philosophers) edition and Hesiod's Theogony.
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>>8435809
Duly noted. Both are available and the pre-Socratics one really caught my eye.
Thank you.
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I have the Oxford versions of all of Joyce's work and I love them. The spines are shit though, you have to be sort of careful to break them in properly. Ultimately I like modern library paperbacks more.

>'..and then... MAMAN DIES, AHAHHAHA!, people will eat this shit up'
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>>8435766
Coldsteel of literature
pfff, nothin personel maman
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>>8435766
>>8435789
t. people who actually literally cried when their parents died.

I bet you still 'reminisce' with your siblings over mundane experiences.
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>>8435825
>be orphan
>anon-kun talks shit
tb.h siblings and parents would've been nice

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>I have the idea of perfection
>But I am not perfect
>Hence some entity must have put it in me
>This entity must be or is what I call god
>Therefore god exists

How is this not reassembling Plato's idea of the good and giving all the credit to god?
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Bumping for ontological proofs
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Fuck off pissboi
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>>8436180
Why do you say this?

Is this guy a hack?
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Not at all.
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se seems like one but he wasnt
he just wanted people to give psychedelics a chance (specially shrooms, and DMT, he wasnt so liberal about acid iirc)
his talks had some pretty fun moments
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When you check out Sheldrake and Ralph too you realize that they were a little bit more than new age bullshit, or at least the interesting part of it .


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