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Hey /lit/ im not a good english speakers so im like needing some help or some witty quote about people covering their tracks......

Like people are so busy covering their tracks they seem to forgot that being perfect is impossible.

or something like that.
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You can cover your tracks, but, the bear can still smell you. Sleep tight.
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>>8435655
I need something witty, that sounds like some nursery tier type.
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>>8435671
if you cover your tracks ur gonna step in my traps

How'd your state do?

Watership Down here. One of the rare occasions I'm proud of my state.
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>>8435569
The house on mango street
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I don't know I'm not from there. What is this though?
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Kek those self-help books. Sad.

Any of you guys ever use Writer? I've been looking for a replacement text editor to Notepad. I love the typewriter sound effects that Writer offers and the fact it has a spell checker, but that it constantly auto-saves my writing online to bigshilllabs (I have a theory the website that operates Writer has been actively shilling on /v/ for some time, so in a way I hate to even mention it here but that's another story) is a deal-breaker for me. Although, supposedly it's "secure" and can be used offline, but I still don't trust it, nor can I figure...
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>>8435539
If I remember correctly Q10, and FocusWriter both have typewriter sounds as well. I used the latter for some time, it's pretty good.
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You should focus on writing regardless of the word processor regardless of how bloated it might be. The most I do is bold italicized the title, bookman old style font, and 8 or 10 point font size, 1.0 spacing, and then write. It doesn't detract from the writing in the least.
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>>8436206
No offense but if you don't enjoy playing around with fonts you're doing it wrong. No fun allowed, shit.

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Why is this book so excruciatingly boring? Half the time Spengler goes off on a tangent about mathematics or science.
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>>8435537
idk, he's just autistic or something. One of the few books I regret purchasing. He truly is best experienced through an interlocutor and he's about the only significant author I've found that I can really say that about. So much of the book is just pointless drivel while his core ideas about human civilization are fairly interesting.

The only author I've seen with worse tangents than him is Smith, who can go off on a digression for 70 fucking pages.
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>>8435537

I'm working with the publisher to offer a "fresh" translation to reach out to readers like you....

Here's an excerpt:

"Yo dawg, dem bitches be decadent as fizuck nawimean?"
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>>8435537
DUDE
PYTHAGOREAN METAPHYSICS
L M O A

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And if you could pair something literary to a certain food or drink, what would it be? On the Road would be coffee, apple pie with ice cream on top, and a cigarette. In Search of Lost Time would be a danish and sugary coffee. DFW's last meal before he an hero'd himself was a Big Mac meal with a medium Coke (to go).
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>>8435520

Overall, it's probably shitty black coffee from a diner with free refills. The kind those goth kids in South Park drink 24/7.
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This is retarded.
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>>8435520
>In Search of Lost Time would be a danish and sugary coffee
>danish
>coffee
Have a reminder
baka

What was the best Harry Potter novel?
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>>8435515

The one that didn't get written.
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>>8435515
prisoner of azkaban
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>>8435522
Damn! Wow! haha you sure did show them lol

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>be me, bored on /lit/
>decide to go on reddit
>never been on it before, but hear other anons shit on it all the time
>supposed to be plebian cesspool
>go on r/books
>"so many books, so little time"
>indeed
>see posts like:
>"Does anyone else get so excited and impatient with reading...
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You didn't leave though.
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i just want to shoot the shit with people who share the same interests as me, and occasionally talk about that interest
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I want that but for film. /lit/ has some good discussions occasionally (still love u when yr bad baby) but /tv/ is garbage...

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Michel Butor died today. It is a big loss
inb4 le nouveau roman, vieux cons
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Littéralement qui?
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>>8435517
Michel Butor. And if you don't know who he is/was, then you're lacking fair amount of knowledge. (Even though he was one of the less known writers of nouveau roman.)

Earlier there was a thread about him and his death. I commented: Sadly haven't read any of his fiction, but his essays in Repertoires is awesome. From Racine, Jules verne, over Balzac to Joyce, Pound, Roussel, Leiris and everytime he makes you see a whole new perspective. His long essay about Baudelaire is masterpiece as well.

Would...
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Literally who?
Call me when Eco dies.

Has /lit/ read any of the Halo books?

Is it good scif-fi? Which one was the best one?
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>>8435470
Contact Harvest I read in my teen years and remember being the best.
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>>8435470
i remember the fall of reach being amazing when i started 7th grade. started taking science fiction more seriously after that.
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>reading books about a video game series that barely has a story
I genuinely don't understand this. I've always gotten the impression from video game novels that they are related mainly just in name, maybe drawing a bit from the atmosphere and style of the source material. I haven't bothered to read one yet because they just seem, whether they really are or not, trashy, low-brow, shallow, etc., like they have just been shit out in an attempt to cash in on fans' interest in the game series itself.

Are there any such...
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Just finished reading the shining, it's my first experience with King, just moving on to Doctor Sleep which I'm looking forward to. Can anyone recommend other King books that they've enjoyed?
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Don't read Doctor Sleep, it's shit.

Good King books? Tough one. The Shining, The Long Walk, Carrie and Misery are okay. That's it.
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The Gunslinger but only the first one.
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Long walk, Running man, some of his short stories, Heart in Atlantis. That's about it. And I don't think these are great, they are okay.

The Stand has somewhat good first half, then it goes to shit. All the christianity; good (writers, painters, etc) vs evil (engineers, technicians etc) is really bad. And the ending itself, that's catastrophe.
I have recently read IT. It would be good book if it was more or less just about the children and their summer adventure (kind of Heart in Atlantis), adult heroes are meh, the chronicles of Derry is meh, the ending...
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tfw when to intelligent too read fiction
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>>8435403
>he's still in the non-fiction phase
>he still thinks life can be learned
>he doesn't realize the knowledge meme is a bottomless hole
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Hope this is bait OP, because you can't even spell
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>>8435423
>>8435429
are you 4real?
this meme is older than the gonorrhea in my dick

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Of all the boards, /lit/ has the best sticky. thnx mates
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>>8435397
/fit/'s is better, objectively. Ours appears very incomplete and is very entry level. Basically stolen from Bloom.
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>>8435400
Bloom doesn't even have Eastern literature, much less the genre fiction or non-fiction that we have.

The contemporary recs are also much different than what he prefers.
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>>8435400
This, /fit/ sticky changes people's lives, ours is awful aside from the link to bookzz, which if you get out of meme tier and summer lit reading is woefully inadequate.

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For me it's Alyosha: intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
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>>8435390
For me it's god
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor
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>>8435390
Sure you didn't mean Ivan, there anon?
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dude in the picture is surely a girl?

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anyone made any new additions to their collection recently?
no longer human is pretty great so far
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I'm going to pretend you bought Jelinek because I made a thread abut it some week ago, and feel pride in that.
You're very welcome, OP.
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>>8435432
you'd be correct, anon
I was also thinking of getting the story of the eye after i've finished these as i've often heard the two mentioned together, have you read it?
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>>8435440
I haven't unfortunately, though I'd recommend picking up Lust. I think it's her best one. Hope you enjoy m8

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Tao Lin used to browse this website , did he?

Besides that, for any published writers here (including self published) what is your opinion on the current Publishing Industry and how it receives non-commercial writing. Also ,what are (if any) your irks with Publishers/Literary Agents or things that you'd do differently ?
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>>8435371
My opinion is that it doesn't receive that sort of writing at all now. Agents and publishers are only willing to take "risks" on authors who've already established themselves in one way or another, so you practically never get anything that actually goes against the grain these days unless it's either self-published or put out by some random indie publisher (arguably worse than Self-publishing because they tend to have a far smaller reach).
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>>8435418

Well I'm not sure I see a problem with this. Most great writers had to start with writing normal, unrevolutionary, marketable material.

If I were a publisher and some 25 year old handed me the next Ulysses I would most likely shrug him off because it'd sell 3 copies from a 10,000 book batch. He could first write a generic novel and sell 5000 copies, then a good normal novel and sell 50,000 and then after that I would consider publishing his wank tissues between hard covers.
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>>8435371
>including self-published
Anyone who self-publishes ought to kill themselves, honestly.

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What light novels can lit recommend?
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Lolita.

Stoner.
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Infinite Jest tbqhdesu

I have to create a mood board on Louis Ferdinand Celine. You know, the guy who wrote "Journey to the end of the night", and "Death on credit"

What the fuck do I include? Could you help me out here? Some cool pictures or whatever
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Use Bukowski
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>>8435309
>What the fuck do I include?
First and second World Wars, France, Detroit during the Great Depression, Congo niggers, general death, destruction and decay, creepy uncle, underage boipucci

Just some things I remembered from Journey to the End of the Night and Death on Credit. also gas the kikes, race war now
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>>8435309
>I have to create a mood board

a what?

ITT: Shit books that inspired good movies

Pic related: the Shining
#SPOILERS#
The book was cliche ghost story in which Jack goes mad only because a evil ghost possesses him! It was enormously long (650 pages the media I have) filled with insignificant detail that didn't even contribute to the mood. It had repetitive chapters, and possibly the lamest ending he could've possibly written.

The movie was instead a story about a troubled ex-alcoholic writer slowly losing his sanity with his retarded kid and awful depressing nagging bitch wife. It didn't...
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Nice bait
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>>8435301
you probably belong in another board kiddo, like /v/ or /a/
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The movie is much more than that

It's trying to get you to suffer the psychological problems via almost media-like subliminarity


Also, Kubrick destroys King's VW

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Is the nature of morality objective or subjective? or can it be that it can be considered as partaking in both?
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Subjective. If you believe in God you might think morality is objective, but that's stupid.
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>>8435231

Interesting, I had this conversation with a person who was a Christian and they kept pressing the notion that even when we think our morals are derived subjectively they are in truth objective mainly because the person is fundamentally ignorant to the objective nature of morality, basically the general Christian idea.

I also would like to know what it is when we are referring to objectivity and subjectivity, specifically with morality, certainly not all objective moral systems have to adhere to a God? at...
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All things are subjective, can you perceive anything without the existence of you as a subject?

No, if yes, I'd like some of that shit you're smoking too, unless you're a heavy practitioner of meditation in which case I'd ask you if your ashram would sponsor my Permanent Residency: 100% authentic Indian, can add market value to your programme.

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I've bought Gravity's Rainbow but think I might read V. and/or Crying of... first to get used to Pynchon. Are there good and bad versions of these two books? (I've read that one of the versions of GR has printing erros)
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>>8435214
>tfw bought the wheres waldo fucking version of GR because that's what they had
these shit versions have smeared print sometimes but they have no serious errors I believe

there's a graphic on this stuff
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>>8435229
Do you have the graphic?
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>>8435214
I'm starting with Mason and Dixon. I'm new to reading on a regular basis so I've had to struggle a bit at times but I've made out to pg90 in a couple days. If I can read it surely anyone can.

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Is this the most entry level book of all time?
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>>8435211
That would be Animal Farm.
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relative to what? childrens books are the easiest to read...
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>>8435216
1984 is a childrens book...

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Would it be easier to make a chart for the books you shouldn't read rather than the ones you should?
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No.
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>>8435210
>chart
I read shart, how extremely ideological.

But you know, there are much more books that I don't want to read than those I want to read so it makes no sense what yous are saying.
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Every book is worth reading if you read it the right way

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What does /lit/ think of the Starship Troopers novel? I'm on page 180 and enjoying it.
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Meh, bad philosophy disguised as a novel. Nothing ever happens.

This actually does belong in the thread for shit books turned into good movies.

Insects! Space! Bewbs! Rico!
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I really enjoyed it. Heinlein is top tier sci fi and this is one of his best in my opinion.

Not a ton of action, but still a breeze. I'm told Armor is Starship Troopers but with more action.
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Forever War sends a stronger message and, in my opinion, is better written.

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Anybody here working a part-time minimum wage job while trying to write a novel?
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I am
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>>8435020
i am, or would be, if i was actually writing the damn thing.

do you find that writing a book is a fruitless endeavor? especially in a technologically saturated society such as this? i do. even if i am underestimating the enthusiasts of literature, anybody can write a book these days. what's the point?
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>>8435106
>>8435110
How old are you guys?

Everyone can write a book but few can get published by traditional publishers, which is my intention. Self-publishing sci-fi shit is relatively easy as long as you don't mind sacrificing subtlety and tenderness for the sake of car chases and gunfights ever three pages.

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>Maman died today.
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???

Did you mean
>Aujord'hui, maman est mort
Today, mother died

I read a new yorker article about the slight difficulty of translating that sentence to fit properly. Is "Maman died today" actually what's in some English editions?
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>>8435011
yep
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>>8435011
English is such a fucked up language in many ways.

The real difficulty is the whole no translation of maman really.

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What do you think about video game Light novel, /lit/? Some people on /a/ tell me it's better than literature
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>>8434950
How do you feel about proper usage of the English language? I've heard it's very popular on this board.
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>>8434952
Why?
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>>8435015
What are you trying to say in the OP?
Are you talking about some kind of Metal Gear Rising LN?

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Should we try and get Zizek to post on /lit/?
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>>8434859
Are you implying he doesn't already
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Zizek-posting was the best desu.
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The board isn't nearly smart enough.

There are maybe ten posters max who can read three Zizek paragraphs in a row without short circuiting.

Haven you even looked at the other threads up right now?

You could maybe get some hack like Sam Harris, maybe.

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>friend tells me he started the day discussing 'relative morality'
>"Haha, do you often discuss ethics?"
>"No anon, it's morality, It's different.
>"Morality falls within the branch of Ethics though"
>"Well it depends really it can go either way, ethics being more or less individual and morals being more collective or relative if you prefer"
>mfw...
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It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect anon.
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>>8434834
He's not wrong but he's using the wrong definition of morals/morality

So he's still stupid but there's a context in which he would be correct
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>>8434852
He is wrong either way. Ethics is simply the philosophical study of morality.

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Who else /literarygenius/ here? It's hard having to always go around being superior to all the lower-consciousness swine around me
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>>8434826
>thinking there is such thing as a literary genius that isn't widely regarded and published within their field/genre

Ha
Ha
You amuse me
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>>8434826
ikr
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That does sound hard, have you considered suicide?

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Have you read it? What do you think?

Also GOAT cover
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>>8434811
It was fun for what it was but I can see why some people hated it. Things like Jack sardonically remarking on how "literary" what he was doing towards the end was might be way too "cute" for a lot of people to stomach.
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beautiful book, one of the main criticisms that people make-- that dellilo's dialogues are a little slanted and awkard-- was something I never quite understood. When you watch a Cohen Bros. or Tarantino film, the dialogue is obviously and delightfully stylized; it becomes part of the book's central message and overall mood.

There are certain parts of this book that always stand out to me. Where we have the main character (whatever the fuck his name was) seeing the outline of his father-in-law during sunrise and the scene with the main character and his son...
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Didn't like it. Overwrought, too on the nose, melodramatic.


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