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Is eternal recurrence real?
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>>8433176
Gtfo with your metaphysical literalist pedantic questions about the Nietzschmeister. Don't matter if it's "real," shit be the way of life you will, nigga
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>>8433176
It's supposed to be a principle through which you should make life decisions, not a factual judgement.
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>>8433176
Would be pretty okay tbqh.

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Hello lit.

I've seen some recent interest in this genre (it's that season), so I'm considering kicking off a regular series of threads — primarily for horror fiction, but also open to related genres. Shout out to the one anon who suggested it.

I'm thinking:
• Horror (probably the biggest group)
• Weird
• Paranormal
• Occult
• Dark fantasy
• Gothic
• Mystery
• Noir and crime
• Thriller
• Psychological
• Surreal
• Existential
• etc.

I realize this is niche (even on a board...
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Anons?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_and_terror
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>>8433167
>in the dank windowless gloom of some intergalactic imageboard, in the hollow pearly whorls found in sewerlike catalogs, in starless cities of insanity, and in their slums . . . my awestruck little thread and I have gone frolicking.

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How do you get over having to be a normie in order for your writing to connect, while the very act of lit makes you far from normies as possible? Take the reviewbro for example who is intellectual and intelligent but all his fans ever do is say haha dance monkey dance. Even when he succumbs to schizophrenia their normie response is lol isnt it so funny.
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What? That guy had schizophrenia?
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>>8433162
> Take the reviewbro for example who is intellectual and intelligent but all his fans ever do is say haha dance monkey dance

I got coffee on my screen from laughing
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When did he succumb to schizophrenia exactly?

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as you're reaching into your bag, an attractive woman walks up to you to say hello (or man idgaf) what is the one book you would want to pull out at the moment to impress him/her?
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my checkbook
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>>8433128
The diary I kept on my dairy farm desu
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"The autobiography of Malcom X" so then she'll think I'm a bluepilled progressist leftist cucked Nu-male who'll be the one in the kitchen while actually all I want is to see her get fucked by a BBC

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where is the best place to buy books online? I've had bad luck with Amazon sending me the wrong editions and different covers from what is shown in the picture.
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>>8433088
idk about best but try abe books
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I've found a decent way to order decently cheap used books from Amazon
>sign up for free trial of prime
>find out which used sellers have deliveries fulfilled by Amazon
Some I remember in the UK are Absolute Books, Bear Books, and there's others
>use the respective seller page to search for what you want
>get cheap books with free one day delivery
The main reason I use this is for next day delivery. Plus, AbeBooks doesn't...
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>>8433088
Do you mean used books? If so, never buy online unless you get a photo of the actual book you'll be buying. I use abebooks and filter by "seller provided images" or whatever. You'll lose a lot of the original results, but with what's left you'll know exactly what you're buying.

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now that he's gone, what are your favorite books by him ?
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>>8433075
Still alive according to Wikipedia so you might be wrong.
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>>8433090
http://www.lemonde.fr/disparitions/article/2016/08/24/le-romancier-michel-butor-est-mort_4987526_3382.html
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>>8433075
Sadly haven't read any of his fiction, but his essays in Repertoires is awesome. From Racine, Jules verne, over Balzac to Joyce, Pound, Roussel and everytime he makes you see a new perspective.

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>The celebrated academic Harold Bloom is a lightning fast reader; blink and he's probably turned the page – twice. In his prime he could churn through 1,000 pages an hour

He also says he remembers nearly everything he ever read.

Does /lit/ really believe this baseless claim? With that kind of mental prowess, why has he failed to become an authoritative polyglot?

All those aspects of fluency - reading, writing, speaking, listening - at the rate he can read, these should have been mere child's play to him. Based on...
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becoming fluent in a language is the mark of a pleb

a true patrician like harold knows you only need to master english and have barebone proficiency in the lesser languages

>inb4 'reading translations'
it's the only patrician way senpai. reading originals is the sure mark of a brainlet.
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>why has he failed to become an authoritative polyglot

>authoritative
He holds arguably the highest Humanities Chair at arguably the most (internationally) important American University.

>polyglot
>Based on the rate that he claims, he should have been able to become fluent in a language, to a scholarly level, in three months or less.

An excellent memory and reading ability doesn't correlate to an excellent language ability, nor...
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>>8433066
>>The celebrated academic Harold Bloom is a lightning fast reader; blink and he's probably turned the page – twice. In his prime he could churn through 1,000 pages an hour
Harold Bloom, however, would most likely be sure to cite a source for this truly ridiculous claim

Why did Marx complete only one volume of Das Kapital in his lifetime?
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Due to an illness of many years’ duration that again and again interrupted his work.
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>>8434011
Was that illness spend money fuck bitches?
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so his sister could fill in the blanks

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Are we still doing the Dreamscape thing?
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>>8433026
im a newbie here, explain.

is it about explaining our dreams?
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>>8433034
It was a group written book or something proposed a month ago or something. It was fucked up, like the other two.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DsS1icqEhvB3e9C6-1wt_Y0WOdcWUUYs5-_trQaRxaY/edit?pref=2&pli=1#
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>>8433043
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DsS1icqEhvB3e9C6-1wt_Y0WOdcWUUYs5-_trQaRxaY/edit?pref=2&pli=1#
cant understand shit

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/lit/ approved?
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>Forgot to post link....fuck
https://www.youtube.com/user/schooloflifechannel/videos
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>>8432994
Disgust is flowing through my veins.
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>>8432992
>>8432994
subtle trolling or pleb as fuck

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>reading the stranger
>ex who is engaged calls me
>tells me she still loves me
>say okay
>she cries and hangs up

Was I Iiterary enough lads?
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>reading the stranger
>ex who is engaged meets me
>tells me she still loves me
>damn is it hot today
>shoot her

Was I Iiterary enough lads?
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What does the stranger have to do with your ex-girlfriend being weak?
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Camus supposedly had at least 3 gfs at a time.

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So I stumbled across this video yesterday, https://www.google.com/search?q=on+the+alt+right&oq=on+the+alt+right&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61j69i65j0j69i59j69i64.2726j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Which lead me down a rabbit hole of National Review Online articles, and others from elsewhere, learning about the alt-right. Normally being a patrish I live above such populist spectator sport as national elections. But since memes like cuck have apparently broken mainstream, and fucking /pol/ is a shade away from being mentioned directly in the National Review I thought...
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>>8432957

I posted a picture of The Edge from U2 here the other day. He's wearing a cowboy hat and a smirk and a shirt that says something like 'Mr. The Edge." It was in a thread about The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead if I remember correctly. Tht image would be pretty much my response to this here, and then the text box would say 'low number/10 I responded.'
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>But since memes like cuck have apparently broken mainstream, and fucking /pol/ is a shade away from being mentioned directly in the National Review.

How did a containment board generate enough momentum to propel an outsider like Trump to within spitting distance of the Presidency?

Moot has much to answer for.
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>>8433061
oh pol's a pretty minor player I think, at least on the surface level

but they basically provided reddit's trump board with their vocabulary and memetic sensibilities

also the SPLC has said that pol's rhetorical style has pretty much been fully emulated by all the lesser white nationalist websites---shit is pretty crazy but also very funny as well I think

>>8432973
I have no idea what you are saying

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What is your favorite philosopher and whats your favorite book by him or her?

>T.W. Adorno
>Negative Dialectics
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>philosopher
>her
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>>8432965
>being this delusional

who is

>Lou Salome
>Judith Butler
>Sonja Buckel
>Marta Nussbaum
>Simone de Beauvoir
>Hannah Arendt

????
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>>8432993
>who is

Yeah, exactly ;P

Simone Weil is my philosofu tho

>it takes years to understand Plato's thought. what kind of farce is this?I'd probably reserve that title for aristotle, though I still wouldnt say years though. This is like reading just another greek poet, but with a bit more of "insight" and intellectual content.
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>>8432926
He misunderstands Heraclitus.
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>>8433020
this.

better move on to Hegel and Nietzsche
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Op Plato is a character who stands up to repeated readings and interpretations over a lifetime. I can do no better.

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Anybody know any good books about thieves? Especially in older Victorian/Middle Age settings.

As a kid I read this book which was cool, the magic fantasy stuff I skipped through basically. I also didn't realize at the time it was basically fucking shoujo....What with the really really gay covers and horses and such...but whatever.

Basically I'm looking for the game series Thief in book form.
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someone is going to suggest this book

you should ignore that person
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>>8432912
> endorsed by GRRM
O-okay anon...
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Mistborn trilogy

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People who would call themselves writers, what would you say the most meaningful or important lesson you learned or picked up is? I'm at a crossroads in my life, and this has been an introspective summer where I realized I don't want to stay in my current field. I used to write and read a lot in my youth, and started writing again recently. I have no formal background in this, just a ton of ideas for novels and stories.

I am not assuming I could just drop everything and write professionally, or even get a single thing published. Those of you who have finished...
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I wanted to be a writer for my entire youth, but now that I've had some lucky break where I apparently have the ability to put real ideas to real paper, I look back at the phase before I had this ability, and I feel real fear. Because if I hadn't had whatever epiphany or awakening it was, I would have just been an idealess retard trying to write for the sake of writing, forever.

Once you have real ideas, you're fine. It can be shit that you know no one has never said before, or some alternative perspective on an issue that makes you want to beat people...
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>>8432842
Not exactly succinct, sorry.

Also: The chances that you will be successful as a writer are not only slim to nil, but you almost don't want to be successful as a writer, because today that means you're writing Chuck Paluhniuk Girl With the Dragon Tattoo Oprah book club shit or that you're writing war memoirs, cook books, or self-help.
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That's very valuable info, thank you. My current field is primary research in a science lab, so the researching portion comes naturally and easily. My imagination is also a big driver in my daily life; I'm usually daydreaming about other things, hence why this current path is not for me I'm finding out. The ideas I have are indeed somewhat novel, or at least a new take on established themes like you said.

I've been told by others I have a way with words, both verbal and written. I would like to think some innate potential is there, but like i said...
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How is this book?
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Shit if you're over 19 and read more than your high school assigned reading. Could have been a decent novella with the first 100 pages and the last 50. As is, it's just an edgy unrefined "everyone sucks except me" worldview pumped out over the same abbott and costello routine repeaded ad nauseum.
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>>8432863
>uses the word edgy
>uses the word repeaded

Pleb detected
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>>8432873
Oh no I made a typo, I guess the book isn't juvenile tryhard shit anymore.

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what's /lit/s opinion on the best poet of the 20th century?
>They know not how to swim, they know not how to cast nets. Pearl fishers dive for pearls, merchants sail in their ships, while children gather pebbles and scatter them again. They seek not for hidden treasures, they know not how to cast nets.

Both Yeats and Pound thought he was one of the GOAT and greater than them both
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>>8432731
Is this Tagore?
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>>8432731
you've fallen for a meme
this is just eastern fetishism
he can't be translated and even what isn't translated is reportedly not very good
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>>8432749
>he can't be translated
Didn't he write at least some stuff in English?

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Did he have no shame when he found out he was dying from AIDS? Did he comment on it at all?
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>>8432725
He was too busy pozzing sissy neg holes to give a fuck
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>>8432725
Did Allan Bloom have no shame when he was dying of AIDS? Did Saul Bellow comment on it at all?
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>>8432725

He was probably too busy swallowing his words upon realizing that sex is a little more black and white than he liked to think.

post what characters look like in your mind

>Arkady Svidrigailov from Crime and Punishment
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I imagine everyone in classical literature as anime characters.

This is what Raskolnikov looked like for me
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You plebs actually visualize the characters? Go watch a movie.
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>>8432622
Light is the nip interpretation.of Raskolnikov. Not L.

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Crazy sale at the thrift store plus cute girl at cash gave me a discount after looking at the books.
Rate my haul
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Incredible finds for a thrift store. Really beats the literal walls of Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey
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>>8432568
4/10

Freshman-year pleb, nothing of lasting value
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>>8432593
Wait I didn't notice the Simulacra. That one has sum lasting value. Reassessment: 4.5/10

Please tell me someone else has read this book, it has left me feeling so hopeless that I just need some discussion to turn it into an idea which I can use to improve myself upon.

I have depression and spend most of my time doing nothing at all, wasting days away, sleeping in late and aimlessly sitting around. Fuck, this book has me so distressed. I don't want to die like Giovanni, I don't want to waste my life looking for glory and for glory not to come.
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I wish I could discuss it with you but I've read it ten years ago and don't remember much of it.
Why is my memory so shit?

All I remember is that I enjoyed it and that it was set in a military fort in the desert.
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>>8432544
It's definitely something I'm going to re-read. I think if I channel these feelings of anxiety and despair into something productive I might not have to die feeling like live is a complete waste.
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how long dis

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New fag here, I've been trying to get into literature and I'm finding it really hard.
Recommend me some books, preferably related to music. I won't mind plebeian language. English isn't my first language anyway.
Plus, my vocabulary isn't all that great. But then again it's not like I'm not willing to try a book with difficult language. I was reading about either/or by Soren Kierkegaard. But I don't know if I'll like it.
Recommend me something please?
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Fuck dude, lurk more.

But okay.

High Fidelity by Nick Hornby.
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>>8432530
Either/or will be too difficult for you right now
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I found it beneficial to read some of the /lit/ starter pack. It's comprised of things that many people on here have read and will be able to recommend things based of off what you liked.

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Has anyone ever actually read one?
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>>8432500

I imagine for the same reason you see Stephen King books in every thrift store and used book store over here. He's read a lot, but a lot of people know he's not really worth treasuring so he's easy to get rid of.
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I think some books were memes never destined to become classics.
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Ian Rankin too

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Is it cheating if I read siddhartha for my goodreads challenge? It's a pretty short book.
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>he hasn't completed his challenge yet
hoo boy
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>>8432498
No, because I choose very difficult books and I never complete them. I've completed 7 books this year, a couple of them were cake walks. I found The Stranger extremely easy, I didn't have much trouble with the metamorphosis as well. Neither did I with a few of the other books I read.
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>>8432503
>Stranger
>Metamorphosis
>Two books everyone has read by 16

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Which is his gayest book?
Confessions of a Mask was pretty gay, The Sailor Who Fell wasn't.
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Forbidden Colours, the japanese title literally means homosex
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>>8432480
>Only ripped samurais can write
/lit/ btfo
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>>8432552
But he could write before he was ripped, faggot-kun.

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I was talking with my non /lit/ gf about books (more like me telling her shit that I read) and she seemed interested. She doesn't read but she told me she would read if I suggest her a good book.

So /lit/ time to be useful for one fucking moment in your life. Suggest me some books that are ok to give to a gf and make her read more. I have this once chance to make my beautiful gf into a beautiful /lit/ patrician gf
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Probably something like the bell jar
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Areas of interest?

Generic answer: 100 years of solitude
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>>8432464
no one cares about your slag gf

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I'd say mine is pic related, which launches next year..

I have also pre-ordered Bottom's Dream.
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>Pre-ordering books.
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English translation of Min Kamp 6, and that's it.
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I was very unimpressed by auster s writing in brooklyn follies and I expect it to have gotten worse

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Thought's on TSWF? How does it compare to the rest of his work? Is Giles Goat Boy as good, better, worse?

And am I a pleb/pseud for TSWF being my favourite book?
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bump for John Borth
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if it's your favorite book why are you asking how it compares to his other work?
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Why is it your fave anon?

Newfag here,so how should I start reading literature?
What books should I start with?
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>>8432415
Start with the sticky and progress naturally from there.
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>>8432415
Read "Lurkmore" by Newf Aggot
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My diary, desu


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