Opinions on pic related?
She gets a shitload of respect though, Atwood I mean. I like her writing but it seems disproportionate to how good her stuff actually is. Then again I'm in Canada so they probably hyper focus on her because we have like 4 writers in our entire history that mattered
Are there any novels that will let me understand Women?
Please no women writers
what books have dialogue like this guy creates?
Any point in reading this when I have severe dyscalculia? I have trouble grasping the simplest forms of maths, should I even bother?
There are a couple pieces here and there that involve a certain kind of algorithmic thinking that might be difficult, but it's not like they make the whole of the book impossible to understand
only interesting/useful part in this was the LISP references
not sure why Bach was in this book, don't think it's appropriate to apply the idea of recursion to music any more than say biology, which is inherently recursive, a lot of music "is recursive" but musicians don't have that in mind
Why is it called post-modern if it was written in the past?
if there is one weakness in pynchon's writing, it is is his over-reliance on references to obscure history, pop culture, etc. do you agree?
No I think it's sometimes the fact that he weighs down what could be profound with his zany humor. He just needs to have more restraint sometimes, but other than that I can't really pin down too much I dislike about him
I'm considering buying this book in spanish (my native language). Does anyone have both the spanish and english editions? Both the same cover, one Vintage Espanol and the other St. Martin's Press.
Dimensions 139.7 x 208.28 x 45.72mm 657.71g
Dimensions 134 x 200 x 52mm
I mention the english version because that's the one I've seen featured in youtube reviews, etc, so I know it's size, but I see that the spanish version is like 200 pages longer, heavier, and bigger in size. I'm fearing it's just too big to be confortable. Am I worrying too much?
Anyone has both by any chance, to share a pic?
I honestly couldn't imagine you reading this book in the original translation and thinking "man my arms are tired, I wish I got the smaller, shittier, pun-less English translation so my bitchtwig arms wouldn't be straining to hold the book"
So you do have both? Please share a comparison pic.
I've been comparing it with other meme books I have. It's not as obsenely big as The Recognitions or Infinite Jest. So it's not THAT terrible. But yes, still big. I'm being turned off lately by huge books. Really annoying to carry them around (bus ride, dead hours, etc). I'm tempted to read it on my e-reader but I suspect it will be such a great book, that I want to do it in physical format.
Looking for some books that are similar to STALKER (the game). I know there already is a book series, but it's only in russian. Any ideas?
1. "'Science can't tell us how to be moral,' sneered the Humanitiesfag extremely Jewishly." I agree, but why the hell do people who say this try to imply that philosophy can figure out objectively correct morals? Why do philosophaggots cry when you bring up the Munchhausen Trilemma? Is it because it is not conducive to self congratulatory mental masturbation?
2. How do you cope with the stress of keeping up with the Joneses in terms of reading about boring shit you wouldn't normally care about but you are told you have to care about? E.g.,...
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>2. How do you cope with the stress of keeping up with the Joneses in terms of reading about boring shit you wouldn't normally care about but you are told you have to care about? E.g., Greeks, continental philosophy, fiction (particularly the western canon etc.)
>reading to impress others
>having such shit taste
Do you recommend to read his trilogy of novels with no other books in between or it doesn't matter?
Godot, then Proust, then Endgame, then More Pricks than Kicks, then Murphy, then Watt, then Happy Days, then Krapp's last tape, and then the trilogy. After that, read the rest of his drama and fiction.
>no other books in between
? You'll likely want a rest before the Unnamable at least. If you mean other books of his, there's not much point to not reading those three in order; other than that it doesn't matter.
one of the first times i ever masturbated was to a rape scene in this book
i was 10
At around ten or so I had read the first three books in that series hoping for another adventure in the vein of Lord of the Rings. Like with all contemporary fantasy I had given taste to in that time I eventually tossed it down in disgust.
one of these
>Regressive Leftist reading list
Not today, Satan
At least /pol/tards are funny, leftards are just pathetic.
>They told me to take a street-car named Desire
>Before you die, you see the ring
This is now a /tv/ costanza thread
ITT post-modern novels from your country
The Autists by Stig Larsson. It's debatable whether it's a novel or a collection of short stories. I can't say if I liked it or not, as it did all the things I dislike, yet I couldn't stop reading it. I recommend it though.
Pic of current edition, I have it in my bookshelf.
Will Peter Matthiessen become the next big meme novelist? Shadow Country ranks with the best of Pynchon and Gaddis imo.
>get on waitlist for Modernism and literature course
>3 person in line
>got a seat in the class earlier today
>check rate my professor
How much stock do you guys put into RMP?
I took a philosophy class last semester and the prof had a lower score than the modernism professor. Ended up getting a B+ in that class so maybe it's not as bad as it sounds.
if you're not a pseud it doesnt matter how good/bad the prof is you'll be fine
if you're a pseud you'll get exposed by the good profs, or you'll get angry at bad profs for other reasons
so dont be a pseud
You think he's jealous of not coming up with the Veni, vidi, vici line?
I always thought Goethe was quite sincere and held a lot of feeling for Werther, but idiot nobles killed themselves after reading it, thinking the suffering and suicide to be romantic and admirable.
Should I read pic related
I've heard bad things bout it
Its well written and the characterization of the characters aren't half bad
The name dropping is kind cringe imho, like calling the fucking dog after anna karenina and the whole beethoven catchphrase
read and form your own opinion, in this case even if you don't like it won't be a waste of time
It's an easy read, enjoyable at times, but there's better ways to talk about sex every page and infidelity then the way it was done in this book, less is more.
I hate his philosophizing too, it's drivel.
This year I had to take an exam on spanish literature, and I read a bunch of them from various authors. pic related is one of my favourite, this guy was a genius. What do you suggest to read from him? Is Amor y Pedagogia as good as my professor told me? what else do you suggest to read from someone who read only like 10 spanish novels from the 900' in total?
I liked Abel Sanchez from him. You could say that the theme is envy.
Also El arbol de la ciencia by Pio Baroja. It has a slow start it is a great depection of the time it was written.
Also you may like to read stuff from the generation of 98, a group of authors that was given that name because of the shared themes.
I'm spanish myself
Niebla is great
If you're staying on the Peninsula, get into portuguese lit too. Jose Saramago and Fernando Pessoa are the main ones to check out.
Get into latin american too. Pedro Paramo by Juan Rulfo started magical realism. Mario Vargas Llosa is better than Gabo. Borges and Cortazar round out South America. I'm a sucker for Bolaño's poetry, don't know his novels. For the love of god don't real paulo coelho. mexico has the strongest activist/essayistic tradition, descendents from poniatowska and paz.
let me get this straight
Literary Theory is when you choose a certain school of thought and then just talk about how book fit into it?
Is it like you pick
>feminism = all books are about how men are evil
>colonialism = all books are about how white people are evil
>marxism = all books are about how capitalism is evil
And then you just talk about how a book fits into that?
What is the literary theroy if you just want to talk about how the book has a cool...
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>Literary Theory is when you choose a certain school of thought and then just talk about how book fit into it?
>What is the literary theroy if you just want to talk about how the book has a cool story and is well written and stuff?
So I just started Gravity's Rainbow. And I've been following it decently so far. But the Kenosha Kid chapter really threw me for a loop. I get that it's PISCES/Spector injecting Truth Serum into Slothrop. But I'm missing how Slothrop came to be one of Spector's "Foxes". Or is this just left out of the narrative?
I don't know. I was following somewhat decently until this point. It has really thrown me for a loop. But I'll trudge on. Hopefully the farther I read, the more I'll be able to put together.
What is some good fiction about growing up?
>first love / kiss / fuck etc.
>not-so-innocent interactions with siblings
>wincest (or the regular, soul-destroying kind)
>inappropriate adult "friends"
In b4 Lolita
Well, you could always read The Monk by Matthew Gregory Lewis published in 1796. It's about a monk who is "innocent" but when he finds out about fucking he starts raping girls left and right, including a 15 year old who is actually his sister
So /lit/ how do you encourage yourself to read
the ego and his ownrather than play video games or some shit?
>ywn write so well that your first book rivals the best of the memes
>ywn come up with a plot so interesting that you can slave over it for five years without fucking it all up
>ywn be able to satirize your enemies without looking like a snarky manchild
>ywn have enough knowledge of religion, art history, wall street, and the justice system to make fun of them whenever you want with expert precision
Why even fucking live
It wasn't knowledge in the sense that he picked it up by osmosis or anything. If you read his letters you'll see that most of it was extensive research or firsthand experience. There's a reason he only wrote five books.
I wonder how well read he actually was because the Gaddis website makes lots of references to his library where he's just chosen very selective bits from the books he was using from research, sometimes as little as a sentence or a page. Still interesting to think about how his mind worked that he could think of something and go find a very specific piece of info to weave into his writing.
Are they well written for children's/YA books?
I haven't read them since I was a baby
How can I be more like this guy?
Fuck my life.
What's your motivation, /lit/?
What makes you lose your fear of death?
> fear of death
The plebbiest of existential problems.
Any spooky books that read YOU?