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I started this recently, is it really as good as many people say? Should I continue after the first book?
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There's a prequel to the first book called New Spring. I'm halfway trough it right now. It's good. But i don't know if i should've started from the first one, or this one.
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Sorry, forgot the pic.

Here's the cover.
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>>8422395
I was gonna ask

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Ok, here is the deal /lit/. I am going to post three images of the books I own. The challenge is to deduce my persona en characteristics purely from the books shown. After the threads reaches a hundred replies I will 100$ into the PayPal account of the person who came the closests, so be sure to add your account name below your guess. This is OP out until 100.
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2/3
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3/3
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>>8422325

You're cancer. You have a strict and superficial materialist understanding of the world, but believe there is "stuff to be learned" from spiritual viewpoints, as long as you don't take things literally. You're easy to get along with in general but not really idealistic, and all of your philosophical knowledge and interest is geared towards pragmatism; towards how to get along in the world. You think the only real absolute truths are scientific ones, which you regard as mostly settled, but...
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just picked this up from my university library, what am in for?
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The best you can ever achieve by reading horrendous shit like Pynchon is pretentious conversations with posturing undergrads

The best you can ever achieve by reading the classics and learning their languages is lifelong friendship with real erudites, an English professor wife, and personal enlightenment

Put down the plebmodernism and pick up a real book
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>>8422309
Idk why out of all books to spam you picked IJ . It's already the most posted book on the board.
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>>8422321
False-flag, just outright idiotic summerlack of discernment, possibly both.

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Who are some good black authors who don't talk about
>muh racism
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>good
>black
>authors
pick two
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Alexandre Dumas
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>>8422128
Good and black

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Which one was satire?
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idk but The Moon is A Harsh Mistress was one of the most boring things Ive ever read
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>>8422102

They both suck cock and are really really shitty genre-fiction, not even good genre-fiction which isn't saying much.
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>>8422638
Well that's a pretty dumb opionin considering Heinlein was only writing genre fiction to mask his political ideals.

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REDDIT TALKS IJ
get in here
https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4yufkg/one_of_the_most_powerful_descriptions_of_suicide/
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Hey guys, Reddit here! Just started reading IJ after checking out that thread!
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>>8422083
no
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>>8422101
What do you think?

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>>8422024
I liked how Reynolds 'ended' the Revelation Space universe with Galactic North. Incredibly bleak, somewhat depressing, but fitting, overall.

'ended' in quotes because there's easily room for stories after galactic north, and of course he will write more in the universe (something's supposed to be coming next year).
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>>8422024
>scifi pulp mags photoshopped into a picture on a hot girl
this is a new low for this board.
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>>8422121
whoops, it's been a while since I read the story. it's a short story, not a novella

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What does /lit/ think of Palahniuk? Is pic related his best work? Any authors with a similar style?
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I know what /lit/ thinks of him, but even I personally don't like Fight Club (which is the only thing I've read of him).

The best thing about it is social critique that could be summed up within 10 pages, the rest is fluff.
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I'd say Rant and Survivor are his only books worth reading, but he's not a good writer. "Blah blah blah some edgy set up, whoa, bet you didn't see THIS coming! He was his moms the whole time?"
He has a whole catalogue of shit books, I read all of them in middle school.
Lullaby's okay too, I guess.
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>>8422008
Read Fight Club. Dropped it about 90% of the way through.
Skimmed Choke. More overly smug social commentary, shock value, and elbow-nudging.
Nope.

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“In assessing Nietzsche’s condition I have long been reminded of identical or very similar experiences with young men of great intellectual ability. Seeing them laid low by similar symptoms, I discovered all too certainly that these were the effects of masturbation [by hiding under their bed, perhaps]. Ever since I observed Nietzsche closely, guided by such experiences, all his traits of temperament and characteristic habits have transformed my fear into a conviction.”

wow, how did he ever recover from this?
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>>8422003
what if Nietzsche never went insane, what if he was just using his mastery of philosophy to astral project into the future to read the works of dfw and be dfw's best buddy, and dfw killed himself when Nietzsche's body finally failed his spirit?
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>the Nietzsche of music shitting on the Wagner of philosophy

These two deserved each other.
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>>8422009

plot stolen

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Holy fuck Vonnegut is insufferable. I've read Slaughterhouse, Cat's Cradle, and Bergeron and I hated every single one. Does he have anything worthwhile in his bibliography?
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>>8421951
STOP SHILLING GENE WOLF
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>>8421948
Try Sirens of Titan. Stay away from the smug-fest that is Player Piano
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>>8422030
Sirens of Titan is magnum opus.

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Recommend me some dark/depressing short story collections.
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Dubliners obviously
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>>8421912
A Good Man Is Hard To Find
Music For Chameleons
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Carver, but that's obvious.

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Is life really just a sham, constantly oscillating between pain and boredom, where the brief pleasure of the predator is always outweighed by the immense pain of the prey? Is Zapffe correct to assert that our consciousness is tragically over-evolved to necessarily result in our angst and dissatisfaction? I don't want to believe, but these often seem the most reasonable positions.

I've tried living a modest life, dedicated to aesthetic and intellectual contemplation, as Schopenhauer prescribes. I've tried the base hedonism of drugs, alcohol, and junk food....
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>>8421843
Start with the greeks.
Seriously though, you'd probably find Epicureanism and Stoicism interesting
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>>8421843

>Schopenhauer

Ah, the siren of pessimism. Very tempting, but don't be tempted. He makes a few convincing arguments, but coming to terms with Nietzsche's life affirmation is really worth the trouble I've found.
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>>8421863
Read a bit of them in college. Pretty similar ideas to Schopenhauer'a asceticism or even Voltaire's garden-cultivation, no? I should have the handbook of Epictetus lying around here somewhere though. I'll look through it again.

>>8421864
Been on my list for a while now.

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Will I become the ultimate /lit/ meme if I walk around my college campus reading Infinite Jest?
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>>8421826
Read something obscure yet still impressive, like Alamut, Ego and Its Own, or the Bible. That way you'll be a real hipster.
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>>8421826
Probably not, your hands will hurt though, it's pretty heavy
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>>8421826
Literally no one will even notice / know what it is

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'Harry Potter' is an incredibly dull franchise. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic un-magical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody? Just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.
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That chart. Im taking the bait

Atlas Shrugged greater than Hamlet

Atlas Shrugged

Greater

Than Hamlet

pic fuckin related
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>>8421796
>God-tier

>Camus
>Rand
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Bloomposter detected

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>going to my wagie job
>work part time for 6 hours 3 days a week but my week consists of days ruined by work or days dreading the upcoming work days
>do a job that some silicon valley 19 year old should've automated by now (they're too busy with the college fuckfest)
>am a retailcuck
>did a stem degree and I'm smart but lazy
>see lots of Staceys and Chads
>sometimes...
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>>8421724
not literature
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Start going to a gym and take a book with you the times you're using a stationary bike.
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>>8422294
le gym meme

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Hey /lit/, where is the best place to torrent or download ebooks?

>i'm from /mu/ and I buy physical books but im moving onto ebooks and dont want to pay
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Come on, one of you lot prove to me this place isnt just a wasteland
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gen.lib.rus.ec
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>>8422019

I can see you in all these threads and it's fucking hilarious. Keep going.

How do I understand this book?
I am 50 pages in and I have no idea what I'm reading.
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Are you sure it didn't get misprinted? That happens sometimes
Otherwise what you read is what you get, you can go more in-depth on how it's built but that's not required. Do you know who Marco Polo and Kublai Khan are?
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>>8421683
I know who they are but do I have to read up on them extensively in order to understand? The chapters were so similar that I kept waiting for something exciting to happen but it never did. Seems like a bunch of nonsense rambling to me.
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>>8421712
>do I have to read up on them extensively
No, the basics of their relationship is all you'd need to know, not quite speaking the same language as first and all that is alreay mentioned in the text I believe
>I kept waiting for something exciting to happen
If you're not enjoying it so far, it's not for you. If someday you catch yourself reading poetry then maybe come back to it

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Hello /lit/, i don't browse this board often but i would like to get some helps finding some comfy books. With being comfy i mean cozy and relaxing, while still being a good plot.

What books do you think are comfy and what would you recommend?

Thank you in advance
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>>8421612
My Antonia by Willa Cather
Shane by Jack Schaefer
Kim by Kipling
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The Magic Mountain
>Hanging out in the cool mountain air and listening to your chums argue philosophy with each other while sipping turkish coffee
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Is this worth reading?
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>>8421466

no i had to read it in school for AP Language and I hated it
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>>8421471
Why did you hate it?
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>>8421466

No, it's better to spend that time in 4chan and expressing narcissism on Facebook. Your time is too precious for a classic work of literature.

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Is /lit/ the most intelligent board on 4chan?
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Not since moot broke /pol/: the sewage treatment plant of 4chan broke, the dregs flooded onto other boards, and stayed.

Now we have threads about transgenderism where two sides just scream the same arguments at each other for days, instead of DFW shitposting.
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>that smug totenkopf
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Knowing how to read means you're smart :^)

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>listening to the in our time episode on logic
>first 15 minutes has been the guests talking about Aristotle's syllogisms and stamp collecting of them
>Melvyn Bragg asks "what's the big deal? Seems simple. Was he just a stamp collector?" , obviously unimpressed but politely
>guests can only sputter some crap about it being impressive because Aristotle was the first stamp collector and he inspired other people

The emperor...
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>>8421438

Braggs position is to be the mediate the panel guests & the curious and open-minded listeners of the show.

I don't know if you've listened to many of the shows; I think they're great because of Bragg's self-imposed, teacher/pupil determination to distinguish between the knowledgeable 'experts' who parrot their university lectures and those 'experts' who can expound on his sometimes direct, jilting questions.

Bragg, yourself, and the experts on the show:...
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Tip top lel, now I'm listening to the continental analytical philosophy split and this woman guest is literally saying that continental philosophy is mental masturbation about feels. She is literally saying that.
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What's your favourite In Our Time episode?

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What are some good books to practice french?

I'm reading L'etranger at the moment but it's a bit boring.
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>>8421361

>L'Etranger is boring

It's too short to be boring.
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>>8421369
Sorry let me correct myself
>I suck at french so reading L'Etranger in french makes it boring
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>>8421361
Astérix

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What did you guys think of it?
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One of the most reread-friendly books i think and we have so much secondary literature on it so really you could spend your whole life just with the bible
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It's the 100% divine literal word of G-d. The only book you ever need.
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God-tier tbs

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I don't like wiki'.
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Wiki doesn't like you either.
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Well, what do you expect of an encyclopaedia?
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my diary desu

I'm looking for a book to read that could be described as nothing.

I don't want drama or humor. I don't want romanticism or epiphany. I don't want philosophy or a point of view. I don't want nihilism or grittiness. I don't want lolsorandom or cleverness. I don't want cool or scandal. I don't want anything other than nothing.

Does such a book exist?
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Yeah.

It's called "Facebook"
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>>8421296
Look kids. It's another classic /lit/ zinger
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The novelization of Seinfeld ?

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sup /lit/,

Please recommend me a book on how to behave in environments full of machiavellian snake-people. Nonfiction is preferred over biographies is preferred over literature is preferred over pleb fiction.

inb4 running for dummies
inb4 anything by robert greene

Many thanks
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Seneca- letters from a stoic. There's a lot of advice on dealing with "the crowd", keeping personal virtue and valuing wisdom and philosophy. Also Rudyard Kipling's "if" might give you an idea of where to start and to go for further reading.
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>>8421257
The Book of Mark, The Epistle of St. James, The Gospel of Matthew, Chapters 5 and 6
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>>8421257
>environments full of machiavellian snake-people
Got your first corporate job, kid?

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My gf wants me to read this book by john green because she liked it. I heard he is shit but i dont want to deny her wish.
What should i excpect.
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Cancer.
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One Direction in book form

where do you buy your books from?
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amazon
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http://www.betterworldbooks.co.uk/bargain-bookshelf-H76761.aspx

http://www.alibris.co.uk/books

And Amazon.
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Charity shops, always.

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Here I go. Judge my new poem.

The lights are alive in San Francisco.
They ignite the city by the bay. They
Flicker and dance across the streets
Where millions have been and
Millions more will come.
Their cascade of colors,
From the red/yellow/green
Of the traffic lights,
To the flashing white and pink
Of a neon sign that advertises
The scantily clad women
With their own pulsating lights inside.
I followed the torrent of lights
Down Columbus avenue;
I waltzed with them
On a Wednesday night
As I navigated the sleepy...
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>>8421188
I read the whole thing.
Life will never be the same.
Now I'm a homo.
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I'm not going to say it's good, but I am proud of it.
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>>8421221
Is that a judgment?

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I am really fascinated by this guy and his books.
Any Infos, pics, storys, opinions from you?
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Pynchons my fav writer for sure because my fav thing in books is goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior, and his books are full to the brim of it. Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book & POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! and then you think hmmm whats he gonna do next, this trickster, and you pick the book back up and BZZZZZZZZZZ you get a shock and Hahahahahah you've been pranked again by the old pynchmeister, that card. "Did that Pynch?" he says, laughing...
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>>8421153
My own Pynchon recommended reading order is:
IV - Vineland - CoL49 - GR - M&D

Read AtD, and V. at your leisure.

But really, if you want to just jump into GR, you'll be fine, don't take the people telling you that you must read V. before GR too seriously.
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>>8421423
But methinks V. is a good intro to his style and its length makes it more accessible than GR


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