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post best bars in rap referring to literature

"Its about intellect, introspect, disrespect philosophy. I say homer, you think simpson, i think odyssey" -gjonaj

"they came to ask him for at least some new tracks
but only got confronted by the beast with two backs"

-MF DOOM's reference to shakespeares' othello
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rap is shit
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>>8417230
closeminded and very dumb to say
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>>8417284
but it is

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Do you write margin notes and scribble in books?
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Yes. If I don't highlight an entire paragraph and scribble next to it "symbolism," how would I remember that the passage was being symbolic? It allows me to engage with the text.
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>>8417193
Anyone who regards markig a book as stupid is
himself stupid. Read How to Read a Book you spaz.
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>>8417193
>getting a second hand book for school and the previous owner was a stupid 10th grader 'nerdy' girl who always wants to be 'smart' and its all shit notes and highlighted for no reason

I swear all my highschool books were like this

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new into /Lit/

one question, please be honest.

Why do u hate each other? analytical vs continental?

i mean it, cant u just contemplate both slopes?
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There's no way you could know that if you're new.
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>>8417174
Continentals think anything with numbers or logical notation is useless and not philosophy. Analytics think that all continentals are just poorly disguised charlatans wrapping their nonsense in obfuscatory language.

Both of them are wrong.
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The culture of this board hosts many people who in the real work are probably regarded as intellectuals however out of them only 1-2 out of 10 are. When all these psudo-intellectuals come on /lit/ and then an another psudo-intellectual calls them out they begin a horrid circle jerk of 'IM BETTER YOUR STUPID" kinda crap.

Of course there are still the small amount of actual people who know what they're talking about (spoiler im not one of them) so overall the board is probably the most intellectual since its not summer in here all year round

>Favorite Movie?
>Do you believe in God?
>Do you lift?
>Do you play video games?
>Do you have a college education?
>Can you still enjoy Stephen King?
>Do you spend more time on 4chan than you should?
>Do you go on Reddit at all?
>Do you have a job?
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Nah
Nah
Yeah
Nah
Yeah
Probably
Yeah
Nah
Nah
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>>8417164
Mrs. Dalloway
A Serious Man or Synecdoche New York
Yes to all except Reddit and job
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Favorite Movie? Jauja
>Do you believe in God? I want to, not sure
>Do you lift? ab exercises pushups and pullups
>Do you play video games? not anymore
>Do you have a college education?no
>Can you still enjoy Stephen King?no
>Do you spend more time on 4chan than you should?no, only when in the pits of depression
>Do you go on Reddit at all?no

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What is the difference between Science Fantasy and Science Fiction?

And which is pic related?
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not a great definition but this is what i've hashed out for myself:

science fantasy "reads" like fantasy, mostly because technology rather inconspicuously takes the place of magic since the workings are not explained in detail or even really brought into question by the societies in those books in the first place

haven't finished dune but it seems to fit the bill
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>>8417158

In my mind, Science Fantasy would be a book like Dune.
Whereas Science Fiction would be a book like the Martian.
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Science Fiction is where they try to realistically elaborate on the world such as how it could exist logically using a basis of real science and technology.

Even if there is technology in a Sci-Fi that doesn't exist, it is made on an understanding of real science and tries to truly make you immersed in how the world works.


Science Fantasy puts a lot of that behind to favor more traditional fantasy plot. It's fantasy set in a technological world but may also have a magical / mystical element to it. A quick comparison I see a lot is Star Wars v.s. Star...
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How do I into Spinoza?

Is it necessary that I read Descartes works first? I've just read opinions of him from other philosophers
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nobody reads spinoza, especial not titans of german letters

read infinite jest instead. more insightful
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Yeah you should read Descartes. Also look into Giordano Bruno.
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>>8417114
You just do it. Descartes could be a nice prelude but it's not necessary at all.
If you find a nice book with an historical introduction, that'd help you get on the book.

>>8417123
>>8417336
retards.

"It may really be said: You are either a Spinozist or not a philosopher at all."
Hegel

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Can anyone recommend me a decent Arab / Muslim political philosopher?
(I'm not being intentionally ironic, and ignore the slight oxymoron).
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>>8417107
*Crickets*
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>>8417107
Al-Ghazali
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Pic related popped up a few times in a book of Middle Eastern primary source snippets I recently read. It looked interesting, and valuable for the field, but I haven't read it yet.

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Are knowledge and culture unnatural -and ultimately harmful- to people who aren't highly gifted?
Is culture a meme that only breeds try hards or is it something that we should seek to integrate more to society?
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Are threads that start with yes or no questions simply a thinly veiled attempt on the OPs part to pass off their opinion as a topic of discussion?

Is the answer to the previous question "yes"?
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>>8417024
it depends on wether you think it is or not you moron.
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>>8417014
This is actually a surprisingly interesting question. A lot of pretentious people are served badly by the insistence that more people should be held to the standards of high culture.

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I'll start with an obvious one.
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Never read TFA in high school, but I had to teach it last year. Definitely wanted to kill myself...ayyye.
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Fucking The Namesake by Jhumpa Lahiri - utter shit I tell you. Made me really hate Bildungsroman until I've encountered A Brief Wondrous life of Oscar Wao which was great with all of its reference and the vernacular language. If you've read it, what did you think?
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Lord of the Flies
To Kill a Mockingbird
Hobbit + LotR trilogy
As I Lay Dying
Beloved
Animal Farm

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DAMN, Ernest Hemingway's son looks like that?
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>2001-269-044

what did they mean by this?
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>>8416986
Post one of his not shit sons
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>>8416993
Is that "the" shotgun?

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Dilettantes vacuously exploit lexicons to extract and manipulate vapid, bumptious appellations, desperately assaying to conceal their genuine temperament. The mere charlatans' compositions bolster dictations which serve solely to create someof the most banal, unaesthetic prose ever witnessed in the postdiluvian epochs of creation, their works congested by proboscidean locutions containing naught but unmeritorious substance.
I not only indict these ignoramuses, but also compel them to excogitate upon the kernels of my contention and thereafter operate in accordance when...
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>babby using latinate words to sound like a smarty-pants
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>>8416966
Yes that is the point read the post senpai

Not op btw
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>>8416967
I was translating

Can anyone recommend me any (good) books that center on the relationship between a brother and sister? I already have The Mountain Lion (Stafford) and Eustace & Hilda (Hartley) up next, but does anyone know of any others with the same kind of strong filial bond?

(Also, seriously, no Flowers in the Attic—I've already read it.)
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>>8416920

antigone.
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>>8416940
Thanks for reminding me of this but I was fishing for more modern options.
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>>8416920
Ada or Ardour

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ITT: Overused literature quotes that make you cringe every time they're used in modern media.

>He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
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you don't like the quote just because it's overused? what's wrong with you?
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>Caring this much about modern media
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>>8416852
Anything from The Raven.

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What translation of it should I get? Can someone give me a link on amazon to a cheap copy with some coolio illustrations?
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>>8416808
>translation
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>>8416810
wat?
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skip it and read infinite jest.

faust is not so good.

Should I read the original Finnegans Wake or The Restored edition?
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You should read my diary
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>>8416804
thewha?
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>>8416804
chinese

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Let's do this
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>>8416796
no.
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>>8416796
Started off too meme-esque. Try again without the faggot pic related
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>>8416796
fk off with the fw mimi's

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So I'm like 50 pages into pic related and I have no fucking idea what's going on. When do things start to make sense?
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>>8416769
It makes sense from the start. The book isn't for you, drop it.
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Have you read 'The Crying Of Lot 49'? Pynchon likes to throw many scenes together that rarely make sense, and most of us are 'trained' to follow a straightforward story when reading a book, which makes it hard to get used to Pynchon's style. 'Crying' is much shorter and a good intro to that kind of style.
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>>8416770
Yeah I definitely had no problems throughout, so I assume you're just not smart enough to comprehend a book like that.

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Will this genuinely improve my social skills or will it make even more socially autistic? Im not by any stretch at r9k leves of social autism but I would like to be better at communicating with people.
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The only way to rapidly improve communication skills is to work with a coach and a practice group like Toastmasters.
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>>8416726
the maxim of the book is you have to read it and apply what you learn. the book is a way to coach yourself on how you should communicate with people.
tl;dr ofc not you have to do that yourself
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Had to read it for uni, actually a great general guide but its just that. Also the general maxim is "Dont be a dick" and "Go suck other people's dicks", which obviously only happens when you go out and try.

Communications is a skill like any other, practice practice practice

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>dating someone
>get in conversation about books
>mention I love Shakespeare
>they say Shakespeare is overrated
Ugh
How can anyone think this??? What the heck? It's like saying Dante and Homer are overrated
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he is
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>>8416687
He only created the self-aware character and was a complete master of the English language.

Find me one character in a work before Shakespeare who is self-aware and changes based on their self-awareness. Just one.
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there are acouple ways someone could be thinking this
a) contrarianism. there is a default group of people who will never accept anything that is established as universally good, the same people who don't like beatles. contrarians will stop at nothing to prevent a unanimous opinion because it is the only way they can make their opinion important.

2) the "seinfeld isn't funny" trope. in retrospect, newcomers to the sitcom seinfeld find the show is apparently derivative but actually the show is the source material for what most sitcoms since have...
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soon ;(
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pls no cornfather
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Literally who ?
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He needs to remember to pass the sacred corncob to another before he dies.

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Excuse me, I don't mean to interrupt what you're doing, but would you happen to have charts of /lit/'s top books from 2006 to 2012?
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i feel like almost nobody on /lit/ reads any contemporary literature, and those that do seem to read mostly stuff by crappy recently graduated MFA students.
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>>8416632
These charts were an assortment of literature, not just contemporary. I'm looking for year charts as far back as they go.
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>>8416625
any /lit/izen that would have something like that probably wouldn't lurk in the summer. most come back in the fall after the summerfags leave, but you could check the wiki.

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How are the Greeks going?

I have finally finished the first book after a month. It's going slow but it's very fun.

Starting to read bibliotheca now.
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do you have the pic without your scribbles? I decided to get my fix of more modern classics out of the way before the greeks, all I have downloaded is mythology.
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>>8416623
>How are the Greeks going?
pretty good. just finished the Iliad, waiting on my other books to arrive in the mail.
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>>8416636
this being said can anyone compare Mythology and Bibliotecha?

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How does /lit/ feel about Elfriede Jelinek?

I feel like she's very 4chan in a sense, I could see her being a femanon. I don't know another female writer I've sensed this with.
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>>8416581
Have you actually read any of her works, can you give a suggestion? I've seen Haneke's adaptation already, so I'm thinking of picking up Lust.
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>>8416581
Don't know anything about her but every other Austrian author I've tried has been all right to amazing. Tell us about what you love about her, anon.
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>>8417295
>Have you actually read any of her works
>this accusation
Lust is what I'd recommend after The Piano Teacher (unless you'd like to read the book and not just watch the film, of course)

>>8417309
Her depictions of sadomasochism are the most interesting I've seen anywhere, that is of course what's she most known for. I'm not a massive fan, but I feel like she's deeply...
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im a virgin in analytic philosophy

recomend me a light but with content book
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>>8416537
Why would you want to read american garbage?
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But...the light medium has no content
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>>8416653
an introduction, would be a nice start

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>I've never won an argument in my life
Are there any good books that'll teach me the "ins-&-outs" of proper debate?
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>>8416532
Facts don't matter (cf. Trump). Most of it is finding an audience who wants to hear what you will tell them.

Read Plato's Gorgias and ignore everything Socrates says.
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Aristotle's Rhetoric
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>>8416532
As stupid as Sam Harris is, he's a brilliant debater. He uses the language of his opponents to undermine them. He also tiptoes around important issues until he can find out what the "correct" public stance is. He doesn't get angry, because he doesn't really care about the outcome. He's just trying to pander to an audience and sell books.

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Is this series dragon dildo lit? Is there romance between girls and dragons?
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pretty much.
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>>8416463

There are psychic links between dragons and humans, so when dragons have sex the humans experience dragon sex psychically, and can't shut it out.
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You think that's lit?
https://www.wattpad.com/user/MostlyHetero
Read michael and the sex goblin.

I'd hang out with that guy. This fucking wattpad has been getting memed all over lit I might as well meme it up.

In all seriousness it's actually not a bad read.

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What did /lit/ think of S? Also, what's your take on this form of interactive story telling in general? They did the same thing with the New York Survival Guide that goes with The Division.
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Bump
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Haven't read either of those but I'm slightly intrigued
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G I M M I C K

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From a neutral opinion on YA fiction, can someone explain to me why it is hated so much on /lit/?
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Go away, girl.
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Because no one here got laid in Highschool.
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>>8416403
because it's poorly written and meant for teenagers, it's the pop punk of literature

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What is a book that will make me believe in love?
I wish to desire love and feel more accepting of affection after reading it.
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>>8416224
war and peace
then it'll crush you and make you hate everything
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>>8416224
>believe in love?
Start with the Greeks
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Sappho

And how you laugh your charming laugh. Why it
makes my heart flutter within my breast

I'm about to read Ulysses without any supplementary material. You mad?
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Why would you read something so obtuse if you didn't care about understanding it?

You're not really robbing anyone of satisfaction save yourself.
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Get ready to waste some hours reading something you won't understand
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Dont listen to em OP i often wish id just done it raw the first time.
Give it hell


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