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Good books on this guy's work?

Especially CoPR?
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Bump for interest.
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Allison, H., 1990, Kant's Theory of Freedom, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
–––, 2001, Kant's Theory of Taste: A Reading of the Critique of Aesthetic Judgment, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
–––, 2004, Kant's Transcendental Idealism: An Interpretation and Defense, New Haven and London: Yale University Press, Revised and Enlarged Edition.
–––, 1996, Idealism and Freedom: Essays on Kant's Theoretical and Practical Philosophy, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
Ameriks, K., 1978, “Kant's Transcendental...
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>>8415321
Thank you Stanford

Any worthy black literature? For lack of a better word, redpilled and black.
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>>8414528
Thomas Sowell
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I quite enjoyed the Lonely Londoners by Selvon.
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>>8414528
Cardinal Sarah

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ITT: favorite book from your childhood
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>>8414508
MODS
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>>8414508
You must be over 18 to use this website.
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>>8414508
Probably this and Tale of Despereaux.

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Is fiction a substitute for people who can't into philosophy?
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>>8414432
yes
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Yes. And analytic philosophy is a substitute for people who can't even into fiction.
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Is organized religion for people who can't into mysticism?

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Does any of you guys have any advice for someone wanting to go into academia ? I'm going to start uni and would like to know what I can do to better my odds aside from having the best grades possible ? Do you think it is acceptable to go and meet tutors/professors when having a question ? Should write in a school paper ?
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>>8414414

professors like it when you chat with them. school papers are all shit and I don't think you alone could change it.
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>>8414414
lot of masturbation, since rationalist is a strategy of hedonist to claim that they are not hedonist : aka ''I claim that such statements are true because I like them, but I do not like people to see this, so I sell those statements not as pleasing to me, but as ''true'', external to me and as a ''necessity'' ''
You can know plenty of things once you stop being a rationalist, aka once you stop dwelling in your imagination. Is it odd that the libertarians...
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>>8414414
Show interest in their work, I suppose. Treat them as mentors rather than gatekeepers. Find some interests of your own and ask for advice/thoughts about them.

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>The world is all that is the case.

What does it mean?
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>>8414309
Keep reading
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It means that, for your utterances to be considered as true or false, and not nonsense, they have to be about the world. He is denying the supernatural.
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>>8414318
>He is denying the supernatural
Dohohoho.

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How difficult is it to get a short story published? Either in something really elite like Ploughshares, Tin House, Granta, Paris Review etc, or at least 'one-tier' below that type of magazine.


I like to fool around with short stories, and god knows I can never write an entire novel, but getting published would really help my identity :-) but I imagine it to be nearly impossible. Have you ever succeeded?
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>>8414299
>MTV

dude it's not the 90s anymore that shit was 20 years ago
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>>8414314
can you behave yourself?
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>>8414371
fucking savage

>itt OP teaches 2nd Grade

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When did you finally grow out of the opinion Dostoevskij > Tolstoj?
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>>8414286
I've yet to do so
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What's the best way to say that Tolstoy was basically a Russian corncobber? Something about wheat?
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>>8414286
16

Something that annoys me about religion a lot... I'm often better at it when I read a guide like the bible, and remember* to act how it tells me to. But if I were born into a low income home where I promptly join gang, I would only get worse and worse. A lot of people only improve themselves if they're lucky enough to be exposed to such knowledge. E.G. I can easily stop masturbating if I think of how ugly the act is, but naturally people do it because it's attractive and feels good. Just like someone who gets slapped in the face whenever they want to masturbate...
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> Just like someone who gets slapped in the face whenever they want to masturbate is WAY more likely to stop than someone who doesn't get slapped ever.

This is my fetish
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>>8414278
religion is a coping mechanism once you face your failure of your life, just like other contrived fantasizes, your faith in the scientific method included.


Religions are meant to leave material-bodily hedonism, travels, concerts, foods, sex and so on, for a spiritual hedonism, through prayers for theists and mediation for atheists.
Plenty of material hedonist love to think of themselves as less hedonistic than they are, since it improves their hedonism in thinking that they are not animals...most people...
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>>8414322
Everything is a coping method, how else do we even live?

I'd much rather be addicted to higher passions than lower ones. Love not indifference, monogamy not promiscuity, real beauty not vanity for your physical qualities. Aren't these the only things in life?

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Any good books on meditation?
Preferably looking at things scientifically.
Self help books, looking at the history or fiction even.
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Full catastrophe living?

Bump for interest.
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>>8414271
>meditation
>scientifically
Wew
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>>8414668
This

Is there a market for the ramblings of a manic drug addicted heavy drinking mid 20 year old full of doom and the constant thought of death, are the angst y writings of such a man worth perusing

or should i simply, fictionalize my own reality?
How do i over come my inherent angst in my writing??

Help e/lit/ies
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>>8414227
Start with the greeks.
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You'll overcome when you really want to.
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>>8414266
Overcome it*. Fucks sake.

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/lit/, can you make a list of philosophers ranking them from the easier ones to the most difficult or deep ones?
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Plato
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Plato
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>>8414212
>>8414222
thread/

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>The Brothers Karamazov is better than The Idiot
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>>8414195
>poor meme
>shit 'musician'
>wrong opinion
>no dubs

wouldnotrepost/10
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/mu/ posters should be shot
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>>8414205
I don't even like her, but
>musician I dislike is not musician
is really great point of view, m8
>>8414211
>>>/pol/

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>Thucydides and perhaps Machiavelli's Principe are most closely related to me owing to the absolute determination which they show of refusing to deceive themselves and of seeing reason in reality – not in "rationality," and still less in "morality." There is no more radical cure than Thucydides for the lamentably rose-coloured idealisation of the Greeks... His writings must be carefully studied line by line, and his unuttered thoughts must be read as distinctly as what he actually says. There are few thinkers so rich in unuttered...
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>>8414190
In short: They are redpilled and might makes right while platonists are libcucks who deny reality and life
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>>8414190
Holy fuck, Nietzsche was a savage.
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>>8414196
>implying that Thucydides endorses the Athenian position in the Median Dialogue

Hey anon, what's the next great military operation the Athenians attempt after subjugating Melos? And how does it work out for them?

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>One of the first signs of the beginning of understanding is the wish to die.

What did he mean by this?
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all life is suffering (4 truths)
instead of working through the understanding and reaching peace, why not die and skip all the work?
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>>8414171
really makes you think
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>>8414171
I think that's a too optimistic interpretation of that sentence. I think he pretty much regards modern life to be synonymous with, or inherently tied to, suffering/discontent/death wish, etc.

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Serious question. Has any writer rivaled Shakespeare for mastery of the English language?

Certainly they are more erudite authors, but none so far as I can tell, who have wielded such a command of the language as he.
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>>8414115

Chaucer and Milton
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>>8414115
Me.
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>>8414115
shakespeare ios for fags retard

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>>8414100
she didn't write it xD
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does anyone else find it weird that internet celebs are considered to have "made it" once they're acknowledged by the "out of date" mediums like tv appearances, book deals etc?
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>>8414169
People's minds haven't caught up with reality yet.

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I have absolutely nothing interesting to say. My knowledge of literature and other intellectual pursuits is very cursory and shallow, often I pretend that I know a great deal about some author or concept while in reality I have only read a Wikipedia summary or something to that effect. I also have a tendency to repeat clever sounding expressions I've heard or read somewhere else even though I don't really have the intellectual clout to back up my reasoning. To mask this incompetence I hide behind a veneer of irony, sarcasm, local inside jokes etc. Whenever I engage...
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>decide to stop being a dilletante and be honest about your cursory knowledge of subjects
>mfw others just take advantage of this to BTFO you every moment of your life
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>>8414008
>dopamine rush
There you go again, anon..
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>>8414008
>I have absolutely nothing interesting to say

Thank god ANYONE can frogpost!

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I love this book so fucking much you guys.
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what do you like about it?
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>>8413990
>That's the thing about pain. It demands to be felt
mfw
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this BETTER be a fucking SHITPOST friendo

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What is the Neruda poem called, that ends with "1935" and "I wish that I didn't have to write this" (or something similar)?
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bump once and I'm done
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It's called "Me llamo Pablo Neruda y soy un maricón"
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>>8414044
No, that's not the one I'm looking for.

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What is the best Stephen King book /lit?
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Different Seasons
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Pick a random one. They're all pretty much the same.
Let me get this clear... I used to love King, and I started reading him when I was a teenage, in 1985.
The point is that when you write that much, it's natural that your plots start looking a bit too similar.
They're almost all pretty good readings, but keep in mind that:
1) You can start with any book that's not part of a series. You'll like it.
2) Sooner or later you'll start noticing the similarity in the plots and they'll become a little predictable.
3) Youl'll grow to HATE the fact that 90% of the leading characters are writers. For fuck's sake, King, write a novel about a plumber, from time to time!
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>>8413976
>Youl'll grow to HATE the fact that 90% of the leading characters are writers.
This goes for literature in general though. They'll be writes or language teachers. It's easiest for them to insert into characters they share traits with. How could he write about a plumber if he hasn't done any plumbing in his life

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Why is Stirner such a meme on the internet? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy some of the pictures and find them amusing but still...

>Have read "Der Einzige und sein Eigentum"
>Have read the biography by Mackay

I find nothing funny in these books or in his life. Is there a starting point to it? It would seem that most people that "meme" him have hardly even read him. As much as I enjoy it, isn't it degrading to the philosopher and his thoughts themselves; basically making them...
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He deliberately made his philosophy a caricature to get it through censorship. It's the exaggerated edginess he incorporated which gives it great energy and appeal. Plus, the philosophy itself is fairly unassailable. So Max Stirner gives everyone a free license to act like a dickhead in a way which is difficult to rebut.
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>>8413965
What do you mean with caricature? You are probably aware of the accusations that are made that Nietzsche was actually heavily influenced by Stirner. I personally don't believe it, since I think that both the thoughts of Nietzsche and Stirner are logical from the natural progression of philosophy. But is Nietzsche a caricature too then? There are differences, but I would say that the main one is that Stirner is not out to save anybody, he offers no solutions; while Nietzsche is focused on creating a new man and...
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>>8413969
>But is Nietzsche a caricature too then?
Literally physically yes, and also in the sense that you asked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQvk0t33i2Y

Thoughts on this man?
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>>8413909

For real though, both Hitchens brothers are attention-seeking contrarians.
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>>8413909
I like him, but wherever he is his intellectual competition are complete morons so it's hard to really understand if he's a simple pseud or knows what he is talking about.
I remember a panel with 4 people in America, one feminist and one flamboyant faggot, those two should be fucking shot.
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>>8413927
What's the panel you're thinking of lad? There's been a few where he's up against faggots and feminists. The QandA one in Australia is decent, but as you said he very rarely debates anyone on his level. Check out his books if you truly want to see what he has to say, although as sound as his critiques of the modern world are he's not a fantastic writer.

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For all of the memeing about this book, I want to see some actual discussion with people who have read it/are reading it

I've been at it two months as a large reading project (been reading lighter stuff as an aside) with annotations, and it's slowly but surely becoming a favorite. That one audio of Joyce reading out a passage really gave loads of context as to with what voice to approach it, and with the aid of notes I have a general idea of the plot and characters, but the prose is fucking glorious

Any thoughts?
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>>8413882
hahaha you have to be a degenerate to appreciate anything by joyce. well, first you have to become learned, and then choose degeneracy from that position, you have to be always overcoming yourself, that is if you really want to get the sense of joyce. you have to expose your body to some rough shit at some point too, privation, starvation, alcohol abuse, you need to suffer.

fucking lol at the literal children who assume they can just stroll into the most bizarre orgies of literature and understand what they...
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>>8413981
shit pasta
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>>8413882
givin this thread here a big FAT

B U M P
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Is there a comfier book, /lit/? Sometimes I wish I could have a purpose in life as clear as the fisherman's. Maybe instead of worrying about the world as it is today, I could just think of how DiMaggio would be doing
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you might like some american transcendentalism
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The Bell Jar by Female Ernest Hemingway
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>>8413859
True.

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Writers you'd like to spend an evening with.

Get your heads out of the gutter, I talking about conversation.

My pick in Chesterton
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>>8413808
I see your Chesterton and raise you a Shaw.
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Absolutely no contest
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Neil Gaiman.

He legit seems like the nicest person on earth in his interviews.

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This is a terrible paragraph
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>>8413792
What do you want me to do about it?
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>>8413792
Its poor aesthetically but it does the job unless that job is to have good prose.
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>>8413796
Can you fix it?

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Setting words on paper is just an invasion, an imposition of the writer's sensibility on the reader's most private space.

Prove me wrong.
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You don't have to read it.
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>>8413763
If the paper is blank there's nothing to read though.
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>>8413766
Then why are you on /lit/?
>>8413770
I don't think you read my post, you're having a hard time tonight.

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What book/s do you think of when you see this image?
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My diary desu
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>>8413743

haha what an epic meme XD
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After a cursory glance, I would say Life of Pi.
But after looking a bit more closely, definitely Ben-Hur.

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I'm an ex-/v/irgin and I started reading again in 2015 after curiously clicking on /lit/. Since getting back into it entire worldview has shifted. I've totally stopped caring about the nonsense going on everywhere around me. Petty Internet and life bickering has no effect on me anymore. I've started seeking beauty and truth in all things around me and I've taken my own creative pursuits (music) seriously. Getting stuff done feels just incredible. It's kind of like understanding the depths of human feeling and experiences through the ages makes life meaningful....
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mainly it gives me something to do on trains
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>>8413690
It helps me to feel superior to others and justify my hedonistic and basically selfish lifestyle
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>>8413711
Why does reading make you feel superior to others? Genuinely curious.


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