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>tfw realize that too smart for philosophy
Hold me, /lit/
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>>8404209
>tfw too smart for both STEM and humanities
They didn't tell me it'd be this lonely at the top
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>>8404209
>tfw too smart for intelligence
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>tfw too smart to exis

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What should I read next, /lit/?
Malazan or the Lightbringer series?
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>>8404006
Gardens of the Moon - meh with bits of awesomeness
Deadhouse Gates - some of the greatest fantasy ever written
Memories of Ice - half meh half awesome
House of Chains - the first half is some of the greatest fantasy ever written
Midnight Tides - a weird departure, not necessarily bad
The Bonehunters - dip in quality
Reaper's Gale - even worse
Toll the Hounds - not a good book
Dust of Dreams - bad book
The Crippled God - garbage
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>>8404037
This guy gets it more or less right. I cant say a word about last two books in the series since I didn't even care about them.

The second book (dont get scared by the first one, it's mostly chaos, but I personally liked it) in the series is more than worth of reading. So fucking awesome, imho one of the best fantasy things ever written. And then it goes slightly downwards with each consequent book till the fifth one (counting it in, this one is actually weird, didn't like it at first, but it...
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>>8404006
Next LB is in October so calibrate accordingly

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What would be an example of "fedora literature"?
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This post
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>>8403930
Anything by The New Atheists or anything fantasy.
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>>8403930
infinite jest
the martian

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Why the fuck was the judge content with following the orders of some self-interested killer like Glanton?

What did Glanton even bring to the table, other than supplying weapons and being a good shot?
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He thought it would be fun. It was.
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>>8403928
the judge didn't follow glanton's orders
glanton followed the judge's orders
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>>8403928
Glanton was a true dancer

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Lit, please tell me how people obtain the knowledge that sets them free, what contains the knowledge that sets you free? What sort of things do you have to think in order to realize things which will free your mind, which will make you feel like you're at one with yourself and you're not living in confusion anymore? I'm not talking about religion or something I'm talking about real psychological, philosophical stuff.
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psychedelics
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It doesn't happen overnight.

It's the pursuit that sets you free.
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>>8403914
radical freedom

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Hello boys, I'm an American who received a shitty Burger-centric education in history. I'm looking to learn more about the history of other nations.

Can anyone recommend me some books you've enjoyed? I'm interested in Western and Eastern Europe, East Asia, and South and Central America but I'm open to anything else you may have read as well.
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Siddhartha really opened me up to learn more about Hindu culture, it's staggering how advanced their thinking was.
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>>8403924
Siddhartha was an excellent read, but I always assumed it was a Westernized bastardization of actual Eastern schools of thought. I wouldn't know where to begin with primary texts.
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>>8403892
Hi, OP. I would start with the history of Europe/the western world if I were you. I know some sjw idiot will attack me for eurocentrism, but there is no denying the richness of western culture and its historical metamorphosis.

Now, when studying history there are no single volume work that will give you a deep and nuanced appreciation. You are going to have to spend a lot of time reading on many different times and many different topics. Of course you can look for an overall survey of European history as a starting...
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How do you motivate yourself to read?
What moment are you specifically looking forward to when you start reading?
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Good question.

To me I have to think of all the past memories good and bad. Everything that got me here to this moment before i start reading.
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I want to read every book I own. I have read most but I have twenty to go. My mom brought me Twilight and New Moon years ago but I never touched them. I am trying to get through them though. I just tell myself to read one chapter a day.
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Not authors such as Ayn Rand. I put the book down after reading the very first sentence of Atlas shrugged

What books would you recommend to someone who once told their hair stylist that they were in love with a transgender person online and I spent 2 weeks in a psychiatric hospital because I was abusing caffeine and it effected my mental state terrible and I wish that I was a more feminine person; and now I never want to see that hair stylist ever again and every time I think about it I think about what a painful awkward embarrassing loser I am and how I wish that I could just disappear and go some place where no one knows me? I make myself sick. I wish I could just become invisible and fly away.
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Taipei
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>>8403821
Guys, do you know if a movement that promotes Active Abstention exist in your country? Really interested about that .

Here in Spain we have the MCRC, more stronger than ever with the sight of our 3rd general elections in one year, and with the chance of another one after that if the situation remains the same.
For you op, read the Myth of Sisyphus
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Time to cleanse my friend. Not your soul, not your spirit. I mean your skin. You have been blighted by the pigment of dark sun. Take a two hour walk every day. Hit me up in a week.

When I was in high school I would always sit alone at lunch. I wasn't really into reading books like I am now that I'm in my 20s, but I remember sometimes I would just sit at lunch at a table alone reading the dictionary, because I was bored and didn't really have anything else to do. Could you imagine how embarrassing I must have looked to the people who walked by me? I'm sure everyone who walked by me cringed and felt glad that some day I was going to die, and that they'd probably never have to see me again after that one painful moment where I disgraced their vision.
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>>8403782
Now imagine how embarrassing you'd look to others if they were to find out that you post 'feels' on an anime imageboard while in your 20s.
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>move across country as a kid
>go to new elementary school
>shy and don't know anybody so just read all recess
>ostracized as the "gay new kid who reads all recess"
>decide to accept my ostracism and just read books on a rock all recess
>huge group of kids doing laps around a field passes my rock
>lucas among them
>was...
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>>8403782
read sentimental education or anything by flaubert

have fun cringing at yourself in flawless prose

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Can I say that I read this book if I read all of the chapter titles?
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No because you didn't read the book retard
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>>8403713
So going by your logic, you can't say that you read this book if you don't read the chapter titles.

>>>/reddit/
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So who here has actually read it and can tell me if it lives up to the hype? Thinking of starting it soon but I'm afraid it'll be boring. I've read long-ass books before but DQ sounds kind of repetitive and uneventful

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Why is everything a murder mystery?

Why does every movie have a chase?

Why do genre fiction fans get insulted for reading books that arent about man meets woman? Arent autists displaying an advanced form of empathy, the ability to empathise with ideas as abstract as fictional empires and fictional magic?

Why is every pop song either Stacey singing about her love life or Chad singing about material wealth and / or his love life?

Is there a single novel or film that shows empathy towards an ugly male?
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>>8403688

>Is there a single novel or film that shows empathy towards an ugly male?

The Elephant Man
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>Arent autists displaying an advanced form of empathy, the ability to empathise with ideas as abstract as fictional empires and fictional magic?

no because empathy is not a hierarchy, there is no 'advanced form', you either get laid or you are an autist. you either empathize with people or you stay away from literature and invent me some more computers and shit. just live with it.
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>>8403709
Cyrano de Bergerac

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Cont'd from >>8391162
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Nice screenshot, faggot
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>>8403673
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Amidst the more acute months culminated of our sophomore high-school year, a social quarrel emerged between a trio of beloved pupils — a dispute that rendered the community torn when previously sewn of such their individual services and peer-obligated esquire. I was before the vacuous spectators peering the baste fold in arduous festival; center I engaged the creases of emotion and delusion, neglected of three. The information, only could I assemble, illustrated likewise the private null surrounding the worst...
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>>8403673
Why haven't I talked to somebody for over a week? I have people I could talk to but I just don't know how to start a conversation anymore, I don't watch the same animes, I don't play the same games and I feel generally I don't have much in common with my friends anymore. Do I just force myself to consume stuff I'm not very interested in so I can be social again or what the fuck are you supposed to do lit?

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>tfw to strong to read
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>>8403624
>tfw too intelligent to enjoy literature
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>tfw dumb enough to enjoy and believe everything I read uncritically
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>>8403624
he probably read more than you

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so i most associate post-modernism with literature, but what films would you say are post modern?

im thinking at least synecdoche, new york and the truman show at least

is literature the most post-modern medium?
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Los Angeles Plays Itself
Rapture Adrenaline
Cabin in the Woods / Resolution
Most of Ben Russell's documentaries
Behemoth

Thousands of others, these are just a few I can name off the top of my head.
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>>8403619
cheers, thats a nice starter pack
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>>8403619
im checking out this guy russell's stuff, what aspects are pm?

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Can /lit/ recommend any good audiobook/youtube recordings of the great epic poems? I'd like to find great versions of Gilgamesh, Homer, Virgil, Beowulf etc, ideally performed (not just "read") by an excellent storyteller. I really want to get a feeling for what it might have been like to experience these stories the way the ancients would have: by a masterful storyteller.
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I know that there's a reading of the Odyssey by Ian McKellan that's pretty comfy. I don't recall if he also did the Illiad.

The reading of Beowulf by Seamus Heaney (I think it's also on youtube though not sure) was also quite good.
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>>8403608
Thanks, bro. Mckellen's version of the Odyssey is on youtube as well, quite comfy sounding. That's exactly was I was looking for.
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>>8403642
Meant for >>8403622

Ok, before you guys jump on my throath the points of this thread is to see some arguments, the pic is just to gather some attention and is also related to this thread.

So, is there such a thing as "a book that doesn't deserve to be read"? Or reading anything is aways better than read nothing?

In my opinion, and probably this will be the case for the vast majority of this board, I think life is too short to waste time on bad books, but how do you face an arguments like:

>"how can you know the book/author is bad if...
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Time is limited, quality over quantity.

That said, if you're going to shit-talk a book you should have read it. It's one thing to say "I didn't think the book was worth reading." and another to go "That book is shit. The author is trash. I know because I read it on /lit/."
As for responding to that question, you probably shouldn't put yourself in the position. Why are you having an argument about the quality of a book you haven't read? The best rebuttal you have is the truth - "I only know what I've heard from...
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OP is a fag

lol corn

here's the attention your pic gathers, hope you're happy
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>>8403606
Schopenhauer quote here

Less Than Zero
No Longer Human
Lolita
Journey to the End of the Night
Neuromancer
East of Eden
Wuthering Heights
Steppenwolfe
Maldoror
Slaughterhouse Five
Coin Locker Babies
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep
Nadja
Junky
The Journal of Albion Moonlight
Confessions of a Mask
Moragavine
The Blind Owl
Brave New world
Hebdomeros
Babylon by Rene Crevel
Locus Solus by Raymond Roussel

Vote here http://www.strawpoll.me/11004708

Or if there's something that's not on here which you think is better...
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How do you honestly self bump this thread.

How can you really manage to tell yourself that this thread is worth anyone's fucking time.

I underestimate how lonely you people are. Do you come here to discuss books, or throw bookly words around but really just validate each other???
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>>8403799
lmao. I'm looking for a new book to read. I've tried reading nausea, notes from underground, and the passion according to g h, but those were too difficult. So I am trying to find a new book to read all the way through lmao omg dude seriously I am in such a horny mood this morning.
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>>8403836
Nausea is kind of hard to get through, I almost gave up on it after about 100 pages. I later picked it up again and finished reading it and I'm glad I did, it definitely gets better and there are some lines and thoughts in there which will stick with you

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Travelling is the normie equivalent to reading. A cheap attempt at gaining more social / cultural capital and portraying more worthiness and cultural understanding and open mindedness and intelligence than other less-instagram-curating people.
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Such is life in a neo-liberal corporatist society that values consumption more than production.
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tourist = pleb
flaneur = patrician
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>A cheap attempt
>cheap

Traveling isn't fucking cheap.

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Who /writerabroad/ here?

Anybody else here used airbnb to find a cheap apartment to rent and write in for a few months?

I'm currently packing my bags to go live in Fontgombault, France for six months in order to focus on completing my first novel.
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>>8403523
How much do you pay for it
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>>8403607
I pay 200 euros a month (225 dollars) including most utilities (I wanted faster internet which cost me 15 euros more. Groceries are cheap and there are so many elderly people here growing vegetables and fruit that I often get stuff left on my doorstep. It's a great life, honestly. Pretty distant from any major town and that feeling when no girlfriend, but other than that I spend my time cycling around, reading and writing.
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>>8403627
That's quite cheap, but how do you support yourself for such a long vacation.

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>Like, EW! Just because Im in a library doesnt mean I want to talk to someone!
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>S-sorry. People on the internet told me the library is a good place to make friends with similar interests... I-I'll go now.
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>>8403520

>*reading twitter on phones*
>Anon did WHAT? WHAT A CREEP TEEHEE!!!
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who talks in a library anyway? I go there to either

1: loan books
2: study in peace and quiet

both are ruined when people come talk to me

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Where was her right
Where was he wrong
Thoughts and criticism
better alternatives?
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>>8403473
shit haiku mate
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>>8403478
applies to the 20 miss us texts i got last night desu
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As with most pseudo-intellectuals they are only right by coincidence and wrong by default.

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Did Plato write any homoerotica besides Charmides?

"Chaerephon called me and said: What do you think of him, Socrates? Has
he not a beautiful face? Most beautiful, I said. But you would think nothing of his face, he replied, if you could see his
naked form: he is absolutely perfect. And to this they all agreed.

[...]

He came as he was bidden, and sat down between Critias and me. Great
amusement was occasioned by every one pushing with might and main at
his neighbour in order to make a place for him next to themselves, until at
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>>8403466
Symposium is probably the closest
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>>8403466
Lysis is pretty gay.
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>>8403466
Lysis is pretty fucking gay

and pedophiliac

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Who /poverty/ here?

Anybody else here living in poverty in order to have the time and focus to write your novel?

Feels amazing

It's the same life lived by Raymond Carver, William S. Burroughs, Steinbeck, the list goes on.
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>>8403434
Not yet, but I'll be moving from the nice suburb I went to Junior High and High School in and down back to the shit part of town I grew up in. Basically Detroit but in the desert and with spics instead of niggers. Have to do it for economic reasons, as money is tough working a commission job.
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Moving to Paris in February for 4 months to live on a shoestring budget and read and write as much as I can. Pretty excited desu senpai
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>feels amazing
Fuck you

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Daily reminder Alexander Pope was 4'6" (1.37m) tall
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>>8403408
Still got more pussy than you ever will. Funny how that works.
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>>8403410
not hating i'm not a guy myself
i'm just saying it's amazing
he was such a little guy
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>>8403416
*not a big guy

also Keats was 5'0"

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What are some good scifi books that focus primarily on humanity's first steps in interstellar travel, colonization and discovering the unknown in a time where space flight is still dangerous? I.e. not some high-flying space opera bullshit.
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>>8403391
Lem's stories about Pilot Pirx.
also, >>>/sfg/
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Foundation Trilogy.
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>>8403504
That's not like what OP wants at all.

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How does /lit/ deal with words you don't know? And before you say hurdur the dictionary, I ask this in broader sense. Do you keep a list then check them? Do you try to deduct the meaning from the context? Or do you go plain ol' ignorance is bliss style?
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I usually just try to deduct the meaning from the context, but it's a bad habit since it doesn't really expand one's vocabulary. That said, some words just stick in your mind long enough to look them up.
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>>8403374
I immediately pick up my phone and look it up, then continue reading.
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>mfw have an e-reader
>mfw I can mark words and instantly get an oxford dictionary definiton of it.

plebs

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I really only read for school, but i used to love to read when i was like 10. I like themes of isolation/searching for meaning/ the unknown haha. please rec books for me to read.
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kafka the metamorphosis
vonnegut slaughterhouse-five
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You think we know your personality and your preferences to recommend you a book that you'll like? It's up to you to search for a content that you enjoy, we can only recommend something good IN OUR OPINION, nothing more. Also, there was /lit/ faq, check it out.
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>>8403336
>I like themes of isolation/searching for meaning/ the unknown haha.

Haha

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What are some good books that teach someone the basics of presentation / argumentation / explanation?
(i.e. what information comes first, how to take into account the audience, etc.)

Not necessarily self-help or instructional books.
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Classic rhetoric for the modern student
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>>8403331
lend me your ears by max atkinson
you talking to me by sam leith
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Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion by Robert B. Cialdini

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Who are some feisty, intelligent female characters in contemporary fiction?

I'm thinking along the lines of Hermione Granger from Harry Potter.
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bump4
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>>8403323
my diary t b h
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>>8403387
Please be in LONDON

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What are some good books to read regarding anthropocentrism and its limits, especially when it comes to hermeneutics or man superimposing himself on the world?

Heard good things about Object Oriented Ontology, good starting places?
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Bump?
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>>8403322
Also want to know this.
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Solaris by Lem has this theme, but it's fiction, I don't know if you want that.


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