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What are /lit/ thoughts on this book?

It's a bit expensive and i'm afraid it's gonna be a strawman-fest. I already read his "How to be a Convervative" chapter on socialism and (iirc) he simplifies the the great majority of anti-capitalist philosophy as the "zero-sum game" meme.

My expectations on this book are that he would take on easy targets (like Deleuze and Guattari) and call them out for their word-babble obscurantist bullshit, or maybe do an ~epic~ analysis on Foucault moral relativism, and treat lukács as a stalinist,...
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>>8397578
He was disgraced as a journalist over a decade ago when it was revealed he took pay offs to write positive articles for big industry. Guy is a salty hack.
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>>8397578
Whoops I guess I should've posted this on /his/(?). But I guess this board also accepts this kind of discussion...
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dunno if this is any help...

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/oct/04/roger-scruton-my-father-looked-like-jeremy-corbyn-fools-frauds-firebrands-interview

>Scruton on… the thinkers of the left

>EJ Hobsbawm
>“Hobsbawm affirmed (in the Daily Worker, 9 November 1956) that he approved of what was happening in Hungary, though with a ‘heavy heart’. Until his death in 2012 Hobsbawm continued to extend his heavy-hearted approval to atrocities. His case illustrates...
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A coworker recommended me this book a while ago. I know it's hated fiercely around here, and after reading a plot synopsis I thought it was pretty silly.

Has anyone here actually read it? If so, what are your thoughts?
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>>8397553
>“I wish someone had just told me the truth right up front, as soon as I was old enough to understand it. I wish someone had just said: “Here’s the deal, Wade. You’re something called a ‘human being.’ That’s a really smart kind of animal. Like every other animal on this planet, we’re descended from a single-celled organism that lived millions of years ago. This happened by a process called evolution, and you’ll learn more about it But trust me, that’s really how we all got...
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>>8397569
Sounds silly, but hey, maybe 13-year-old me would've enjoyed it at least a bit.
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STAR WARS

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Which books are essential for paranoid people?
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you must think you're really cool having graduated from romanticizing depression to romanticizing the MUCH MORE LITERARY paranoia

o, us damaged souls? why does nobody get us? why will women never love us?
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>>8397560
unironically very good post
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>>8397551
kafka
pynchon

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Gothic fiction>weird fiction
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Doesn't Gothic fiction fall under weird fiction?
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>>8397517
source on pic?
>>8397523
no, gothic fiction is, historically, a branch of victorian writing. This means, that modern gothic writing should, at least in part, emulate and be familiar with the writing styles and motifs of that time period.
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>>8397523
Well, Gothic is a big influence on Weird, but the latter does other things too (and imo is broader in scope)

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How many books must one read, to become a better writer?

I hear that 'in order to be a writer, you have to read alot of books.'
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Exactly 1000.
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>>8397500
I'm one of the few authors who have actually written more books than they read
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>>8397500
there´s no specific number
read 1000 50 shades of grey tier books and you will you will be worse of than if you read Ulysses once

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What do you think about the national endowment of the arts?
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>>8397452
What is that from?
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>>8397459

Pride and Prejudice
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I think it's a good idea. It helps, in a small way, to make sure that working-class and middle-class literature is still produced. People from those classes don't have the free time that the upper-class has, and free time is essential for writers because they need that time to read and to perfect their writing craft. Grants from stuff like the National Endowment for the Arts helps them get that free time.

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ITT: lifestyle changes brought on by lit

>read first 100 pages of infinite jest
>start playing tennis, watching the olympics, and consider getting lessons
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>read some Mo Yan novel
>consider Chinese incapable of complex or original thought
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>>8397448
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>>8397438
>finish Gravity's Rainbow
>started browsing /x/, get scared of lightbulbs

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where do you guys cop cheap used books?

and by that I mean, I want to order used books from usa to my cunt but don't know much about it.

Any other places besides amazon?
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I don't want to leave cheap books to my sons, that's why i always buy new books.
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>>8397410
Heh I always buy used books online, price is often really cheap like one euro, depends on the book though

I'd tell you about the site but it's not American and doesn't ship to the US so it wouldn't be useful to you anyway
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abebooks.com is pretty solid based on the couple times I've used it

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>"...because races condemned to One Hundred Years of Solitude did not
have a second opportunity on earth"

Are you shitting me?

FUCKING DROPPED
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>>8397365
>You were the Critique of Pure Reason all this time.
You kant be serious...
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>>8397365
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking faggot
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Very sturdy this frame is, whats it made of?
Why sir, thats some quality Norwegian Wood

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Can you guys give me a quick critical analysis of Dracula by Bram Stoker (1897)? I'm most definitely not going to use your ideas in an essay for a literature class
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>>8397304
its about sex and cuckoldry.How sex makes you evil, old guys are always after young pussy and how you sometimes have to pick between your job and your girl
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Is this actually any good
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>>8397304
The count is an edgelord that goes on about being a descendant of Atilla and how peasants are cowards.

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ITT make up new words for literature to use

I'll start

Pluarb
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>>8397287

Are you going to at least define the word and use it in a sentence?
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>>8397287
Nignig as an endearing term for nigger
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"monder"

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Can /lit/ recommend me some good absurdist fiction? Only familiar with pic related
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ok i'm going to be pedantic for a second and tell you that you're probably meaning surrealism which is kind of used interchangeably with 'the bizarre' or 'lol XD randum' while absurdism is a philosophical belief that life is essentially meaningless, neither of which describes cats cradle because that book is primarily political so assuming that you mean surrealism and by the fact that you say that you aren't really well read then i would suggest you read murakami
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>>8397524
OP here, I do not mean surrealism.

I thought life = meaningless was nihilism, while life = maybe meaningful but that meaning is unknowable to humans was absurdism. As far as I can tell Bokononism (the religion described in the novel) is based on absurdist beliefs. Of course, I'm not well read so I may be completely off base.
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>>8397568
You're completely right OP

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IS Max Stirner a meme? I remember reading about him when I was like in middle school but couldnt understand philosophy stuff, but he seems to have become a meme these past few years.

Are they all ironic? Are they all making fun of stirner or are they serious?
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>>8397154
Deadly serious. Stirner is the first person to solve philosophy.
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>>8397154
>ironic
>meme
>serious


Spooked af
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>>8397272
this, there is no way to debunk him

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Is pic related about right?
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No because all of these are concurrent. Those terms represent different ages of thinking and how they are divided over time. In the case of this board, they identify trends in periods of literature.
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>>8397232
Thanks. I was trying to be ironic and you shut me down with an intelligent, actual answer.
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>>8397133
https://xkcd.com/1480/
"My hobby: Pretending to miss the sarcasm when people show off their lack of interest in football by talking about 'sportsball' and acting excited to find someone else who's interested, then acting confused when they try to clarify."

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>that guy in class who pronounces i.e. as "id est"
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>that guy who pronounces foehn as foohn
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>>8397110
>that guy in class who pronounces "rape" as incomprehensible weeping and can't keep reading after that
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>the guy who thought the rape of the lock meant someone who uses a tiny penis to pick locks

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I was lurking on amazon for this book, but some reviews report missing parts, does anyone know where I can find the full version?
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>>8397092
The reason nobody bothers with the unabridged version is because it's fucking 1,000 pages long, I think it's just about on par with the KJV bible in total length. The man goes on several digressions that last anywhere from 10 to 70 pages. While a lot of books are abridged for the sake of the plebs, this one is abridged for everyone's sake.

There are maybe 300 of those pages that are worth reading. Also Smith is a retard and peddles the same shit advice that modern economics tries to sell you...
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>>8397458
Has anything but state-sponsored developmental economics ever actually lifted a nation to economic might? All the major economic powers had government support in their earliest days of development. Even Britain, the great champion of free markets, had government support for its early textile and iron industries.
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>>8397477
Absolutely not. Name one industry and I will explain how government sponsored its development. The idea that there can be such a thing as a market without monopolies within a state structure where the use of force is monopolized is preposterous.

'Free Market' economics are tartuffery of the highest order. The USA is presented as an ideological champion of the market when basically every aspect of modern American life is funded through government support. The internet, the interstate system, the aerospace...
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I'm just finishing this, this was the best book I've ever read. Is there anything like it in the aspect of high paced jazz-language that either came before it or doesn't come off as a ripoff? Are there any of his other books or beat poetry books I should be checking out?
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Read Howl, its dedicated to Jack Keruoac and Neal Cassady. Also Visions of Cody and Big Sur. I also love the beats anon, but /lit/ really does not.
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Henry Miller. Tropic of Cancer. Both prior to and better than any of the beats.
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>>8396966
why not? glad someone else here does at least

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Tell us what your five favorite books are and others will try to guess stuff about you irl
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Lolita (Nabokov)
Naked Lunch (Burroughs)
La Confirmation (Segre)
Babyfucker (Alleman)
Infinite Jest (Wallace)
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Lolita
Lolit
Loli
Lol
Lo
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Gravity's Rainbow
The Age of Innocence
Middlemarch
Ulysses
Black Lamb and Grey Falcon

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Are there any good non-french novels that talk about gay love or attraction between an older man and a boy?
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>>8396622
Death in Venice
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>>8396622
fag
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>>8396635
f**k already read that

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man, I love gerne fiction!
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You know, why don't we eat curry for breakfast?
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I like watching TV and playing sports.

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Do you have a nice local library /lit/? Do any of you use your public library?

>tfw reading classics in a postmodern spaceship
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The libraries here are for bums to warm their putrid feet, ex-cons from the nearby heroin-soaked men's shelter to browse the Internet for porn and online gambling instead of jobs, and high schoolers to study. All that happens when I go there is I stare at the teenagers' thighs and think about how I want to die.
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My little carnegie library in the university district, Seattle. no college kids actually come here because the campus ones are way nicer. So, bums and 5 minute bathroom limits mostly.

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Any compeling arguments against the Ayn Rand's discourse of self interest ?
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>>8396446
>swnsytdwsgybf
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How the fuck do you argue against a 'discourse'?
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>>8396446
Not really because it wasn't well argued to begin with

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When did you fall out of love with Harry Potter, /tv/?

Was it when Kloves and Yates - two hacks, one intent on forcing his own fanfiction and the other only capable of gutting the books in place of Hollywood cliches and endless grimdarkery - took over the film series?

Or when Rowling made the incredible misstep of the Epilogue - in which Harry is so obsessed and depressed even 20 years later that all his children are named after dead people?

Or when Rowling dripfed nonsense through her broken website for years instead of producing, or allowing the right...
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>>8396435
I think i was like 14, I don't really remember, I was into skateboarding or something and harry potter was uncool

A couple years ago I picked up a copy that was lying about at my dad's and skimmed through, I cannot fathom how anybody but a child would read that stuff
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I think it was book 5 when Rowling started killing off characters and everyone I know was like "omg important people die, that's so deep and dark".
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>>8396435
For me, it was when Rowling accused all fans irked by her idiotic claim that "Hermione was never white" of being racist pigs--not just fans irked by a black actress being cast in the role, but any fan expressing any surprise or contesting her claim that a white Hermione wasn't accepted canon at this point. No interest in the play, or any version of it.

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What are some good books on aesthetics?
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Magazines, picture books
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6475ZpbH_cGSWxsZjdtY05ySGM/view
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>>8396314
Are there any more guides like this?

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> https://es.scribd.com/document/194975370/The-Anarchist-Banker


Was he right lit? Is this the best way to be an anarchist? It looks to me more like egoism the way our favourite ghost buster would like it.
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>>8396225
can you summarize his point? it's not opening for me
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>>8396305
The best way to help a society reach its "natural state" of anarchy is through an individual effort to free yourself from the social norms that perpetuate the status quo, seeing that in any (i.e. anarchist) collective new forms of tyranny will arise from the natural qualities - as in leader vs follower personality, for example - of its constituents, which goes against the greater objective.
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bump because it's an interesting read

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what are some of /lit/'s favorite short stories? it seems like short fiction is underrated here
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Its a collection of short stories, but The Last Wish by Andrei Sapkowski (idk how to spell properly) is really good. Technically the first book in a fantasy series, this one is far batter than the others and each story provides a fascinating look at Polish medieval myths and culture, and an introduction to the grizzled character of Geralt the Witcher.
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The Dubliners by James Joyce is my favourite short story.
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>>8396038
>short fiction is underrated here
Not really, it's just that there aren't very many that are very good.

If you're looking for collections that are god-tier in their entirety, more or less, you can't go wrong with Joyce's Dubliners or Borges' Ficciones or OP's pic related. Chekhov and Carver are two other masters of the form.

If you're asking for some of my personal favourites who I believe are somewhat underrated these days, check...
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>be this guy
>upset a demi god because of pure greed
>fuck up real bad, get a big part your troops killed because of this
>Diomedes has your back
>realize its not enough and still being BTFO because of divine help
>turn back to the Demi-god because grampa's friend told you so
>demi-god says " fuck you " and claims he will leave the place

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>>8395919
>saved by sheer luck
I dont think you ever read what happens when he gets back home.
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>>8395929
His wife was banging some other guy, wasnt it ? I never read the Odissey.
But i meant only in the course of war
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>>8395947
No, the wife didnt bang any other guy. Read it pleb

> inb4 baitd

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Why don't you just write YA novels? Most grown ups don't read anymore.
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>>8395793
Most *kids don't read anymore. Plenty of adults read YA novels.
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>>8395793
>Plenty of adults read YA novels.
Another good reason for writing YA.
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>>8395793
I'm not after money. I am after immortality. My mum has money.

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Reminder that reading genre fiction is a sign that you genuinely enjoy reading.

Anyone who poo poos genre fiction is automatically a pseud who only allows himself to read the classics and hates every minute of it.

You can shit on me, but I know I'm correct.
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What is the purpose of this post? Is it to incite anger? Is this what they call 'bait'?
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>>8395691
Reminder that you're not on reddit. You should go there if you want to be patted on the back for being an insecure plebgot.
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>>8395707
I'm not the one who is insecure.
>w-will Bloom-sama approve of me reading this?

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Post classic top quality /lit/ posts, lads.
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>>8395662
>tfw my post was directly below the fregg post.
>gets removed in screencaps
:(
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dumping some
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