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What is it that we male virgins of 4chan find so attractive about Nietzsche's thought?

His emotional immaturity?
His hostility toward women?
His unfulfilled fantasies of power?
His unjustified sense of superiority?
His ugly and pretentious demeanor?
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>sister destroys his works by editing them into nazi propaganda

he was right to be hostile toward women
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>>8395503
Not to mention Cosima cucked him with Wagner and and he died of an STD gifted by a whore
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>>8395498
His individualism is attractive for lonely people

That's hardly his problem though and his readers (by virtue of reading him) should be aware enough of the possibility of self-delusion

He is a great thinker in the end and is above the projections of the pathetic virgins here. Read some other philosophers and you'll figure out quickly if you're reading for philosophy or ego-inflation

I'm a serious book hoarder. I've bought all these books and haven't read any except tfios and catcher in the rye. I HAVE to finish these before I purchase more. Which book should I start from?
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Oh and I stole the god of small things from my college library lol
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>>8395399
probably just through all of them away and buy some good books
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I used to do the same thing with books, especially from Half Price Books, but I bought a kindle paperwhite a few months ago and now I just horde free/cheap books on it and sold back most of my paper books. You should do the same.

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Do birds have stories to tell? There's a bird that made a nest outside my window. I've read to it a few times but I don't think it can understand me through the glass. It does look at me when I tap on the glass so I guess it knows I'm there. Do you think birds would like to write also?
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>>8395294
no, but mein fieltski are masters at prose
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There is no bird. You must understand
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the bird narrative:

EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT
KILL YOUR SIBLINGS
EAT EAT EAT
FIGHT FOR TERRITORY
EAT EAT EAT
FIGHT FOR A MATE
FUCK FUCK
DEFEND THE NEST
EAT EAT
DIE

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Out of all the short stories that JJ has written in Dubliners it seems that ‘An Encounter’ is the one I’ve thought about the most. At least it’s probably the only short story that I’ve thought about more than just looking into the meaning of it.

From the perspective of the main character, these three boys make plans to ditch school and go on an adventure to a specific location. On the day that they set out, one of the boys doesn’t show up, essentially chickening out. So now it’s only the main character along with his friend who he secretly doesn’t give...
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I read Dubliners a year ago and wasn't much impressed and actually rather bored. But the more I thought about it, over a time span of months, the more I realized how good those stories actually were. I then went back to the book and reread it and at the end of The Dead I just lay down in bed and cried until I fell asleep lol.
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>>8395222
Hmm maybe I should re-read it too
I was definitely bored with most of Dubliners, but some of the stories I really liked - A Little Cloud, After the Race, Eveline, Araby, and An Encounter is my top 5
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>>8395244
It was the same for me with Portrait. I suppose his books take some time to really sink in. Or maybe that's just me.

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Best literature against globalism and in favor of nationalism?
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>>8395008
Read literally any political literature that isn't obvious jewish shilling and you should come up with Nationalism as a natural conclusion.
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I'm pretty new to this board (within the last week or so) and I was hoping to get /lit/ with you guys.

Unfortunately, I'm not very well-read, other than the required reading in my courses (history major, with a minor in English literature). However, I'd like to change that very quickly.

Any book suggestions for a guy who's really only read Tolkein, Stephen King, and George RR Martin? I just finished Earth Abides.
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>>8394997
Starting with the greeks is a meme, just read some Dostoyevsky, some Joyce, and some Pynchon. Then you can shitpost with the rest of us.
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>>8395043

AT LEAST read Homer.
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Well what kind of stories do you like? What kind of topics?

Hard for us to narrow it down for you unless you give us more to go on.

Best moments, chapters, phrases.

For me, chapter XI...
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It was really early, and inconsquiental to the main story but the hermit near the beginning was pretty dark and creepy, it stood out to me obviously.
the best Judge moments, in my opinion, were probably the flashback when he killed all those indians with the old piss-tar-gunpowder trick, and the scene where they're going through the indian ruins somewhere in Mexico and he's destroying their left over things and the speech he gives.
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When he raped the kid and then murdered the Kid and then danced and said he'd never die.

~spits~

~rides on~
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>>8394996
It's all shit and you got tortillad and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and
And.

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itt: Sum up your philosophy with an image.
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See a sentence, and rewrite it differently in what you consider a better way, but still portraying the same meaning.

Does staying sane in an insane world not make one insane?
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>>8394873
To be sane in a world of madness is a folly of its own variety.
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>>8394876
Being sane is insane.
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>>8394873
Choosing sanity in the face of insanity is bound to make one the latter

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What's a good degree for a writer?
Don't say "English."
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English literature, philosophy or history
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>>8394738
Women & Gender Studies
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history, sociology, anthropology, foreign languages, hospitality

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Recommend any Warhammer 40k Novels? Are they all Young Adult like the Star Wars books or are they actually enjoyable? Where should I start?
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It varies depending on the writer.

Dan Abnett is always solid though. Horus Heresy is some raw shit.
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Ciaphas Cain. Personally the second omnibus/set of books, but that's where a lot of my favorite scenes are. May not be up your alley, but give at least the first book a try.

>inb4 'shit taste' our similar comments
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It can get pretty horrific. And then it can be pretty light. Honestly i am pretty desensitized now though. Even the books I thought were dark are now mehh

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>But I am not a fan of “Stoner.” First, along with other female readers, I am put off by Williams’s misogyny. Second, as a professor of English, I am dismayed by the pedantry and narrow-mindedness of his teaching and his treatment of a dissenting student.

>misogany
LOL WAT

How in hell was William Stoner a misogynist? He gave all his love and affection to his wife Edith, only for her to take it and throw it all in the garbage. Even after they both were fully aware of their failed marriage he still...
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School of resentment. Look it up anon. Journalism is ruined.
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>>8394511
The article is referring to the author's misogyny in writing females as terrible people.
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>>8394520
This, but also you would do well to not take clickbait too seriously

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I'm not fluent in French, but I have a basic working knowledge of the language, it's construction, grammar and syntax, as well as a propensity to expand my vocabulary.

To the francophones and native speakers on this board: who are the most eloquent writers you have read? I don't necessarily mean the most interesting or compelling writers, but the ones who could write with eloquence and grace, something like Henry James in English.

In a sense, I'm basically asking who, in your opinion, is the best French prose stylist; but really I just want...
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>>8394288
>it's
Goddamned auto-correct.
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>>8394288
I'm technically a native speaker of french since I've spoken it from birth, but it is a bit rusty.

Stendhal is probably my favorite french author, the writing is just fucking incredible. I would recommend La Chartreuse de Parme over Le Rouge et le Noir.
Flaubert is also very beautiful.
Andre Gide has the best dialogue I think I have encountered, Les Faux-monnayeurs is especially good.

For your specific question there I would say maybe Albert Camus, there's a reason they teach him...
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>>8394339
Thank you for your reccs. What I've read of Flaubert in the original is indeed what I'm looking for, but I didn't want to be so obvious with my inquiry.
I've read rouge et noir, but not Parma, so that'll be good.
I've also read Les faux-monnayeurs in translation and thought it was superb, but I've never felt the need to reread it although I do have a French edition of it lying around somewhere. I'll get to that then as well.
Again, thanks for the input.

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Tell me your ideas /lit/
Now I know you haven't gotten started on writing anything. But surely you have some creative ideas floating around in your head! I know I do. What are they? Are you gonna write a super serious novel or a magical fantasy?
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>dude wanders america, simultaneous to others lost
>eventually becomes turtle
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>>8394168
I have an idea about using a post-apocalyptic setting to explore
anarchist theories of structure i.e. Horizontal structure and how a post capitalist society might form.
Also interested in exploring what I percieve to be anarchisms short comings, particularly on how to deal with the mentally ill.

plot might be about small socialist-like village that has to deal with a sociopath/serial killer or something like that while also fighting off generic post apocalyptic warlord/barbarian types.

if you've...
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>turtle wanders China
>eventually he becomes a man

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Would anyone here be interested in a weekly club dedicated to reading and exposition of Aristotle?
I haven't seen any such groups on here in some time, I think it could be cool. Far too few people seem to bother with Aristotle, which is tragic given his place as perhaps the most important thinker in the western tradition.
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Do Poetics instead of any of the Ethics. Everyone always tries to shill Nicomachean Ethics and they're always surprised when nobody wants to read that shit.
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>>8393857
I'd start with Categories and continue on to logical works, then the Physics and finally the Metaphysics. Seems much more relevant to understand subsequent philosophy IMO. Ethics and Politics I'd leave after the "theoretical" works.
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>>8393844
are reading the Greeks valid in this day? all i see is people reading all these modern thinkers and their existential bs, is there any value in reading the ancients?

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Why are more and more books starting to be made like this? It is annoying to read with all the pages being different lengths or uneven and it looks retarded; like someone just took a pair of scissors to a perfectly good book and thought it looked better.
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>>8393560
what was once a way of cutting corners now can be thought to add dignity to a book.

its a stupid fashion, if you don't like it buy a shear and quit being a pussy.
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I have that same copy of Broom. I like it. But that's also the largest/longest book I'd like it for. Anything 600+ should be standard pages. Also found this one for cheap recently. I think it's worth more than the average paperback copy of it
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>tfw I just ordered Broom of the System 2 days ago

Dammit OP. You should have posted this sooner.

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A murder goes to see Kant and wants to kill his son playing somewhere in the neighbor's yard. Kant knows where's his son. The murderer asks where is his son so that he can kill him. Kant tells the truth because it's his duty to tell the truth.

A murder goes to see Ayn Rand and wants to kill her son playing somewhere in the neighbor's yard. Ayn Rand knows where's her son. The murderer asks where is her son so that he can kill him. Ayn Rand lies because she knows it might trick the murderer. Normally, Ayn Rand values being truthful above all else,...
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>>8391312
Ayn would probably demand a payment then sellout her son I mean family is a spook anyway
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>>8391454
Not if she values her son more than money.
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Who would breed that "thing"?

Only thing worse than an ugly woman, is a right wing woman

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Write what's on your mind.
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>>8391162
How's about you write what's on YOUR mind, buddy?
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>>8391162
>ywn have qt asian gf
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>>8391162
I hate women and their roastwhore cunts

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Really big construction edition.

What's the most jaw-dropping SFF megastructure?

What kind of superconstruction do you wish more SFF featured?

What SF novel is most like BLAME!?

(Some random anons' completely subjective) Recommendations:
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/

>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/...
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What would you do if an alien appeared and told you to suck its dick?
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>>8390221
Reposting
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I loved the idea of the Ringworld more than I enjoyed the book. But the second Ringworld book was good.

Just the idea of something so many hundreds of thousands of earths could fit in, how far you can travel amd still be on the ring.

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Do you think nationalism is philosophically justifiable?
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>>8389635
yes
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everything is

Axiom: Nationalism is good
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Yes on multiple levels

Read Fichte, Herder, Heidegger

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Didn't see one in the catalog, so can we get one of these going? Rate, h8, rec, compliment, shitpost, whatever. How's my shelf look?
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Babby's first bookshelf.
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Your bookshelf tells me you have nothing worth contributing and you bring down the average quality of users.
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>>8388959
not op but dune, tolkien, and lovecraft are great
dude's just really into fantasy

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Don't mind me if I make yet another one of these.

...The stack of books I currently have beside my couch. How am I doing? Constructive criticism, please! But, a few shitposts never hurt anybody.
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>Jack Keroac.

Wew lad.
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>>8388385
dear diary i was at big sur like 2 months ago, you ever been? almost all of it is one big memey tourist destination but if you go there you have to camp out on naciomento-fergusson road; literally the scariest cliffy road you'll ever drive on because it's pitch black and night and there's a fog so thick that even your non-high beams reflect back at you and the road is like 2 of your body thick with like a thousand foot drop on one side it's spooky but you can literally camp on the side of the road

amazing...
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>his to read list isn't register based

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>have a project on the Iliad
>the whole time I present in front of the class, pronounce it as the lee-ad
/lit/ cringe/autism thread
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English was a mistake desu
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>have a project on the lliad
>teacher asks "So why isn't the first letter capitalized?"
>I don't have an answer, stutter out something
>she lowers my grade because I "didn't perform well under pressure"
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>>8398098
That's why you use serif fonts, OP

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ok, so here's the deal... I get about half way through The Count of Monte Cristo until i realize i'm reading the fucking abridged version. Anyone familiar with both versions know if the abridged suffices or should i just go out, get the unabridged version, and start all over??
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>>8397881
Get rid of it. Start over. Count does not stand up to abridgment.
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Penguin and OWC are unabridged. The former has a better translation, while the latter has a better cover and paper.
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>buy the first part of Don Quixote
>buy the second part
>reading the second part
>Don Quixote and Sancho go to Zaragoza
>mfw i bought the fake version of the second part

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>If God does not exist, then everything is permitted.

Prove him wrong. Pro tip: you can't
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>>8397843
I mean it's poorly phrased but the argument is pretty solid. Without an absolute foundation for ethics, everything becomes permitted. Just look at the mess that moral relativism has become.
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AllAhu AckBAr
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Everything IS permitted, so what matters this? How else could you be enough of a faggot to make this thread, anyway?

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Is there any pre-homeric literature worth reading? Or is it all just fragments from shitty cultures that don't matter any more?
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Gilgamesh. The bulk of Ancient Indian Literature. Parts of the Bible. The Avestas.
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>>8397817
Almost all of it
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Book of Coming Forth By Day (Book of the Dead)

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Who has more power:

The writer or the hacker?
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The writer creates the hacker these days, as he creates so many other workers. How many modern hackers are what they are because they read Neal Stephenson? The writer is the hacker's shaper, his maker, his God.
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>>8397747
depends on the wattage of their laptops
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the writer
the writer can create organically, while the hacker cannot

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Are the books in Morrowind worth reading?
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Know
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Definitely.
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Yes, the Morrowind Complete Lore and:

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride

should be considered supplementary readings to prepare you for C0da, which is essentially the pinnacle of the series.

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Can we have a /quote/ thread? Particularly ones that pertain to your specific situation in life.

>"Some men storm imaginary Alps all their lives, and die in the foothills cursing difficulties which do not exist." - E. W. Howe
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"stop being a pussy and get some work done" - My Dad, this morning
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>>8397395
Your dad sounds like a cunt, don't post anymore of his 'wisdom'.
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"He came to me with money in his hand, he offered me, I didn't ask him.!I wasn't knocking someone's door down, I was running from that. When I got out, I was in that, I was already through that, I had that. I had the studio. I went to the studio, I went to Fox studios, I had it all, and I looked at it and said, "This is a bigger jail than I just got out of." I don't want to take my time going to work! I got a motorcycle and a sleeping bag! And ten, fifteen girls, what the hell I wanna go off into -- and go to work for? Work for what, money?...
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So I just finished reading Ready Player One.

A really entertaining read. Great ideas.

However, I found the story at times completely implausible and the dialogue between characters was cringeworthy.

Is Ernest Cline the George Lucas of /lit/? A great ideas man, but useless at writing a script or creating a credible romance.

Lettuce discuss.
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That's giving Cline too much credit. Cline is the Big Bang Theory of literature.
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>>8397398
Cline is genius.

I loved it when the catalyst nuked the planet and they all died. Then Parzival got another life because of a random game of pacman he decided to play and was instantly patrician at.

Problem is there was no planet left so he started falling but then landed on a piece of debris. The sixers were on their way to the gate but Parzival couldn't quite reach the gate until he found Art3mis' flying shoes that happened to be laying next to him.

I'm so glad he included that...
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