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The idea that everything you’re experiencing, you experience over and over again. You live this life an infinite number of times, and in a multiverse, maybe in fact that’s true in some weird way. Let’s just say it’s a claim about you as a single subject really living for an eternity in this condition. Every choice you make, you have to live it again and again and again and again. So is it ever reasonable to entertain that idea? If you entertain it in whatever way you can without claiming to know if it’s true, you can say well if I’m going to use that as a filter...
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>>8390111
Nietzsche literally just rambled for like 4 decades
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It's a thought experiment, you dumbo, he didn't think that was what actually happened.
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>>8390115
fpbp
/threaded

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I am literally marathoning the first half of the first sentence of Ulysses as we speak at this exact moment and I have a couple questions:

1. Why was he surrounded by heads and bodies? Did he kill those people?
2. How exactly does a screaming "come" across the sky? Was someone having sex in an airplane?

Thanks in advance.
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>>8390105
Help me. My degenerated brain cells mischievously replicate the world within my skull as a choice between three or more regrettable sexual encounters.

The incorrigible moaning of my lonely gonads is deeply moving, but only if heard from a distance which also abates its tremors. Remember, when you stroke a dialectician, you are really stroking a dialectician.

With all my somber bones, a merry thread, a merry thread, and engrossing moans.
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>>8390446
Methinks you quite don't quite get the severity of my plight quite.

I am appealing to you, fellow, as one man appeals to another when he knows, as we must all one day come to know, that our appeals fall on mute ears; not so much that we cannot be heard, but that what hears will not speak to us.

Perhaps your perceptive soul requires a tighter, bouncier illustration of my problem. If that is the case, I will be most pleased to oblige your appetite for detail. I am a sad, sad man and details are all...
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Are all the how to write books memetastic?
Which ones do you recommend?
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The Art of Fiction: Notes on Craft for Young Writers by John Gardner desu.
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There is you fucking idiot. Check the wiki.
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>>8390063
That is so fucking hot.
I have a thing for broken women.

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you guys realize that art is a proxy for having enjoyable lives
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>>8390040
What did he mean by this?
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>>8390040

David is one of the truly 10/10 works of art of the world.
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>>8390059
I think it's fairly clear lad what I meant
There is confessional art and there is escapist art, and both are a means of leaving behind actual living

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I have mastered the art of rhetoric; I can convince you of anything in mere seconds.

What do you want me to convince you of /lit/?
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>>8389965
Convince me that women and nonwhites are not morally, spiritually, and ethically inferior to the white man
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>>8389965
convince me that im not gay
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>>8389965
convince me that Leonardo dicaprio's best movie is not Titanic

Its time boys
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More than anything, I was surprised by how funny this could be (and at some of weirdest times, too). "Swann in Love" is like an extended George Costanza scene, complete with all his hangups and fears and with his weird ability to be perfectly fine in the end.

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What was the last book you read and how do you rate it?
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Very nice picture OP.

Last book I read was the Aeneid, the Fagles translation, and I found it a little dry after reading Fitzgerald's Iliad and the Odyssey.
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The Willows by Algernon Blackwood. It's difficult for me to rate since horror isn't my type of thing. I loved the personification of the Central European landscape in the first half but the supernatural elements felt a bit sloppy and poorly executed. It failed to create a cohesively immersive experience due to how unrelated all the oddities the characters experienced were. The strongest aspect of the book was the sense of isolation that the characters experienced and the hopeless struggle against a vast wilderness.
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Just read The Long Goodbye again. What can I say? It's very good. Wish the would make a tv show out of Chandlers novels.

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Was it James Joyce?
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Probably Jack Kerouac, honestly.
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Oscar Wilde
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>>8389954
Morrissey is basically Oscar Wilde plus James Dean plus Elizabeth Smart plus asshole (i still love him) so that's where you can go look.

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Did he ruin literature?
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Of course not.
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>>8389898
>literature
It was always shit
There are like 12 good lines in all of recorded history
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>>8389911
I just snorted 10 of them

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Let's talk about handwriting, /lit/.
What's your favorite script? Why are so many plebs against cursive in modern education?
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>>8389886
>Why are so many plebs against cursive in modern education
They prefer to push buttons rather than using their hand to write.
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>>8389886
Impure shitscript reporting. It's a challenge for me to try writing in print. Cursive is disregarded these days because our age prizes utilitarianism in the name of efficiency. Longhand script has no place in any practical applications of an efficient society.
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>>8389895
That shit is illegible, bro.

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I'm reading "Decoded" by Mai Jia. Anyone know what's up with these namings "X-Country" etc?
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>>8389860
>reading translations
How else will you be able to decode the namings, anon?
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>>8390010
I was hoping someone would explain it.

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What is the point of this book? I've read a little past the halfway point, but I'm losing interest... Did you like this? What's good about it?
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>reading translations
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>>8389829
its one of those books that make you realize its fucking amazing only after you've finished it.
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I hate to sound like such a pleb but I didn't really get the "point" either. I wasn't sure what I was supposed to feel when the book was over. I never found any dramatic or thematic arcs carried out to conclusion

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list ways this pic related could of not have been shit.
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femdom
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>could of
Ya, you're exactly the type of person to complain to everyone about a book like that.
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Fifty Shades of Grey: how to draw with charcoal

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Hi /lit/
Would you recommend buying a book in its original language rather than a translated version of the book?
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>>8389820
It depends. Can you read the original language?
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>>8389843
Yes the original language of the book is English. I would prefer the Swedish version though but it costs way more (English: 6 pounds, Swedish: 30 pounds) I'm just wondering if there's a difference in the meaning, maybe some things will make more sense in its original language?
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>>8389854
There might be some things lost in translation, so I think if you are fluent in the original language of a particular type of media, you'd do well to experience it in its original format. Especially in your case, with that price difference.

That said, you might find it interesting to read the original English, then go to a library and read a Swedish copy, and compare the two.

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What makes a protagonist relatable?
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For me, a spree of brutal rapes
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>>8389787
thinking he's special
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>>8389787

Basically suffering and quirks. Be sure not to go overboard though. Make sure they are likeable as well. What makes a protagonist likeable? Proactivity, competence and kindness. As for the latter, your character doesn't have to be a goody-two-shoes, but if your sadist blind samurai paid assassin who was bullied growing up and is obsessed with coffee and cherry pie saves the money he earns killing people so he can buy a cure for his young daughter's terrible illness, we can get somewhere while still keeping...
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I thought it was pretty good. The ending was really strange and unnerving.I have a couple of questions, though.

What happens to Slothrop in "The Counterforce"? The book mentions that he has "broken apart" and all, and it's hard for people to remember him. Since the last coherent Slothrop scene is when you see him in the mountains crying, I assume Slothrop just ended up ditching everything, and what the book meant by him being "broken apart" was the only way people can remember him are through relics and rumors of his wacky antics.

If...
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No he has literally been scattered, he's Rocketman and the rocket's been sent and he's like its banana peel lying around and that's bio-degradable, baby
Even his dreams haven't come for him
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>What happens to Slothrop in "The Counterforce"? The book mentions that he has "broken apart" and all, and it's hard for people to remember him. Since the last coherent Slothrop scene is when you see him in the mountains crying, I assume Slothrop just ended up ditching everything, and what the book meant by him being "broken apart" was the only way people can remember him are through relics and rumors of his wacky antics.
well his mind's been cracking for a while and I think his ultimate fate in the zone...
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>>8389784
You're gonna have to be careful asking /lit about particular events in GR... you might inadvertently expose the fact that most of us haven't read it or know what it's about.

I was trememdously moved by Slothrop crying in the mountains and just "feeling natural," and understood his scattering as his succumbing to the entropy tht drives so many of the plots of the novel. Having lost grip on the paranoia that ordered everything for him, there's nothing left to tie together his experiences,...
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Novelists /lit/ would like if they weren't so caught up in acquiring prestige by reading faddy, prolix things like IJ, or scholar's writers like Joyce, etc.

Kingsley Amis

>satirizes the excesses of modern culture, especially the excesses of the progressive elements of modern culture in many of his best novels, Girl, 20, Lucky Jim, etc. Does this so well that both sides, progressive and conservative, attack him for being bigoted and lowbrow respectively.

>keen grasp on things like irritation,...
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Where should I start with Amis? Been meaning to get into him lately because my friend sold him to me as a fun old crotchety fuck.

Lucky Jim maybe?
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>>8389778
Amis is one of the writers who was more popular on here in the past. Lucky Jim was mentioned in just about every thread dedicated to humorous novels. I think that stopped because /lit/ is triggered vy academia these days.
That said, I think /lit/ could enjoy some Martin Amis as well.
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/lit/ like Kingsley even though he's just a shittier version of maugham

it's his faggot son that we hate

>tfw can't stop subvocalizing
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>>8389720
eat something while you read
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>>8389736
like a dick.
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>>8389720
Dude, I subvocalize like a Tibetian monk.

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compelling argument for owing anyone anything?
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>>8389708

I owe my mother and father for giving enough of a fuck about me to actually raise me.
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>>8389708
Great, I'll just send this .gif to the student loans manager at my bank.
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>>8389746

My parents owe me for bringing me into this world without my consent.

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What films are /lit/?
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Winter Light
Secret Honor
Metropolitan
In a Lonely Place
Certified Copy
Wetherby
Last Night at Maude's
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>>8389669
>Last Night at Maude's
uh this isn't a translation i've heard
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>>8389674

I mean My Night at Maude's. It was a slip of the mind.

what is the best version of Tristan and Iseult?
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Also interested
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None. When two poeple are already in love, they don't need a love potion to confirm it.
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I've read Bedier's (quite well-regarded, according to my prof) and it was shit. Frankly I think all those medieval stories are irredeemable genre shit.

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Serious question.

Why is this book so expensive? Amazon has it priced around $100 at the lowest, and brand new prints go for ~$300.
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>>8389424
because it's out of print and there is high demand for it
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I got it for free. If I hadnt, I would have used the library.
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>>8389445
Intredasting

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I just finished Infinite Jest. Anyone care to explain the significance of the final scene? Are they making Fackleman watch the Entertainment? Wasn't this several years before its creation?
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Yeah
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>>8389416
It's where everything refracts into madness and infinity. Is gately dying by resisting the medication with this strange fever dream being what he sees while he dies in the hospital, does he literally wash up on the shore, are they all watching the entertainment, is IJ a book about a movie starring gately, and etc... Think of the two chinks with the two mirrors with gately in between. Really though it's about how whatever you use to escape from life will eat you alive as will the cure. He resists the drugs...
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>>8389470
Read the first chapter. Hal refers to Gately, Gately can't be dying since the first chapter is chronologically last.

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Today, 118 years ago today, Woking was invaded by beings from another world in The War Of The Worlds by HG Wells.

As a tribute to this famous book, and to see how many people would fall for it, how about we spin our own martian invasion?

inb4 NYPA, just peeved that #WarOfTheWorlds is filled with pictures of that Spielberg movie.
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>>8389413
>caring
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War of the Worlds is shit. Saged.
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Not a bad idea, but I doubt anyone here will listen.

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I just marathoned the first sentence of Ulysses.
Did I like it?
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>>8389349
no you didn't. if you did, you'd be reading the following sentence instead of shitposting.
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Just marathoned 8 niggers 4chan tell me about it and memes

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Does anyone have suggestions for reading in conservative philosophy?

I've enjoyed Oakeshott's essays and this by Scruton, and some Burke of course. But outside of these three I've found identifying material pretty difficult. I wanted to read some Arnold Gehlen but the most succinct of his works are difficult to find in English.
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i really enjoyed scruton's book on music.
that's not what you asked about, but i felt like saying anyway
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Read Scruton's books about conservatism and Russell Kirk's books about the same. You should look into the French counter revolutionaries too, de Maistre, Bonald, Chateaubriand etc.
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>>8389306

>Does anyone have suggestions for reading in conservative philosophy?

Yes. Read after ingesting a cupful of strychnine.

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What does 4chan think of the subreddit "criticaltheory" and their reading list?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalTheory/comments/1ljxft/critical_theory_reading_list/
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i dont
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i like turtles
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>just a list of famous texts on those subjects that everyone already knows about

What am i meant to think? It's just a generic list.

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Please post and discuss feminist literature and philosophy

I'm looking for individualist feminism and existential feminism. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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>>8389180
Schopenhauer's 'On Women'.

That's all. Read this essay and you'll be redpilled to the true "essence" of women, and realize how inferior they are to men.

WOmen aren't as ontologically 'there' as men, they aren't properly inscribed into the symbolic text. They have no depth, no real existential angst or anguish, they are superficial, dumb, and selfish.

No woman can truly love, truly be ethical, or truly be loyal, because their thoughts do not...
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>>8389180
Lol to discussing feminism on /lit/

Barbara Ehrenreich is good. Not sure if it is even feminist literature though, not very political.
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>>8389180
The Second Sex
Gender Trouble

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If you want this board to not be shit, stop bumping brain dead threads.

If you want actual discussions and not memes, stop encouraging shit OPs

Learn to recognize a troll and stop feeding them or every thread will be reddit tumblr tier garbage because they know it it gets a rise out of you.

Block troll posts, don't bump their shit threads. Just stop.
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>>8389139
There are people who only come here for those very threads.

See any thread involving women, the /r9k/ posters go mental. They're infinitely more popular than boring literature discussions.
Like tumblr, 4chan lives and breathes identity politics and it's most obvious with the /pol9k/ losers.
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Or Inadvertent trolls.
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>>8389139
We should consider adding this to the sticky

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Hey friends,

I am looking for the name of a children's book I used to have when I was growing up. In the book there was a kid I want to say named Felix, but not 100%. Basically he is on the street at night and all the houses look like scary faces until he shines his flashlight on them revealing that they are just normal houses and he doesn't need to be scared.

Thats sorta all I remember so if anyone know's what Im talking about, that would be helpful.
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>>8389118
it's called The Avocado Baby
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>>8389165
Most definitely not that.
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>>8389172
It's called The Owl and the Pussycat


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