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r. patz here. found this little diddy and thought i'd share it with you guys.

The South Wind Say So

IF the oriole calls like last year
when the south wind sings in the oats,
if the leaves climb and climb on a bean pole
saying over a song learnt from the south wind,
if the crickets send up the same old lessons
found when the south wind keeps on coming,
we will get by, we will keep on coming,
we will get by, we will come along,
we will fix our hearts over,
the south wind says so.

- Carl Sandburg
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>>8389106
I like how you showed just a bit of the book, enough that only only literature BA girls would notice. how much did you pay the photographer?
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>>8389638
He's with FKA Twigs, I don't see how college broads would even register on the radar.
that's like ditching your filet mignon dinner and running outside after an ice cream truck.
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>>8389106
you never said why you needed to know about section breaks. you working on something?

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any stories or books i can read in under 1 hour?

i'm trailing behind this year and really need to pad out my goodreads profile
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>>8389088
I was in the same position earlier this year and I read Howl and Death of a Salesman helped me out. Do you resort to children's lit like Alice in Wonderland, the Little Prince and Wonderful Wizard of Oz? Those will help you out too, and I've realized people are non-judgmental and even Manny does this to have his 6,000 or so reads, but if you're trying for more "adult" selections, just read small poetry volumes and short plays.
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>>8389088
lol i played this game
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>>8389088
Just read more often, then you'll get more caught up.

literally why does this exist if 1984 was published before it
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Make some nerd bucks
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>>8389015
The two books have totally different themes.
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>>8389019
'no'

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What is your opinion on William Blake? Genius, prophet, hack, absolute madman?
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>>8389000

he got about as close to a mystic as an artist can get.

genius, yes.
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One of the GOAT. A favorite between the ages of Victoria to infinity
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>>8389011
Philip K. Dick begs to disagree.

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Do you read short stories? Today I read pic related. It took me like 20 minutes. It was nice and relaxing.
How do I into more short stories?
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>>8388967
Have you tried collections?
Either by a collection from a specific writer, or a certain era/country (e.g. oxford book of _____ short stories)?
The latter are a good way to find new authors, but then I feel that they can be hit and miss.
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>>8388975
I tried Necromonicom. I didn't like most of the stuff though.
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>>8388978
Yeah, I get that problem commonly when I went for a single author volume. You make really enjoy one or a few but then the ones that aren't so good king of takes the enjoyment out of the whole thing.
I'd suggest go for a compilation. You get to look for more into one theme, and if it is well selected and arranged then you don't lose any tempo. Annotation or commentaries can also add a lot. Obviously you pick something that you are interested in but if you are struggling then I would recommed the oxford...
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What is going on inside of your head when it feels beauty? I try to put to words what I'm feeling when I listen to a piece of music that moves me, but I can't even understand what it is in it that it evokes in me. Can you put to words what that feeling is?
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>>8388962
no
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>>8388962
Sounds pretty gay tbf
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Neurologically or artistically?

If the former, you may be interested in the popsci book; This Is Your Brain on Music: The Science of a Human Obsession

If the latter, then read some Art Crit and Appreciation

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I'm looking for a fiction that has lots of really freaky philosophical conversations, lots of themes that really bend and test the concept of existence and being, something ice cold serious, like pinhead, alien, evangelion, eraserhead, whatever extremely creepy and gritty stuff you can find. I'm talking like, old school anime, serious darkness and grittyness, serious adult themes, weird fuck.
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>>8388927
Schopenhauer's 'On Women'
Mein Kampf by Hitler
Decline of the West by SPengler
Ride the Tiger by Evola
The Moral Landscape by Harris
The Culture of Critique Series by McDonald
My Twisted World by Rodger
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>>8388935
Wow, I'll buy a first edition copy of all of them.
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>>8388935
shitposter begone

>>8388927
Foucault's Pendulum - Umberto Eco

>Foucault's Pendulum is divided into ten segments represented by the ten Sefiroth. The novel is full of esoteric references to Kabbalah, alchemy and conspiracy theory—so many, that critic and novelist Anthony Burgess suggested that it needed an index. The pendulum of the title refers to an actual pendulum designed by the French physicist Léon Foucault to...
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I'm currently reading Moore's Principia Ethica, a most interesting treatise on (meta)ethics. Now, on that topic: does anyone have a satisfactory definition of 'good' (or 'goodness', if you will) or must we accept that, in the words of Moore, "good is a simple notion, just as 'yellow' is a simple notion; that, just as you cannot, by any manner of means, explain to any one who does not already know it, what yellow is, so you cannot explain what good is".

In other words, what do you think of his Open Question Argument:

P1....
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>analytics
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>>8388880
I find MacIntyre to be much less autistic and much more insightful. He has the position that good cannot be defined outside a tradition or without teleology.
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>>8388880
>does anyone have a satisfactory definition of 'good' (or 'goodness', if you will)
we can rely on wittgenstein for that
you don't need to know a definition to know what good means, you need to be acquainted with social practices and the ability to take part in them is what reveals mastery of the concept

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Have you noticed that religion is used solely for social posturing these days? If you suggest that the church may not have been the least bloodthirsty thing in the world in the past you get insulted.

I'm not saying that religion is the only conduit it greed and oppression, simply that it's a damn good one. Stop telling me to read the Bible or give a shit about a particular set of stories.

Zizek is bad with this as well. "Atheist Christian" my ass. His comedic / posturing routine really hits its apex when he talks about that shit.

Oh yeah,...
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>>8388829
Maybe you should go to an active community church with a strong social mission.
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No one actually follows any of their alleged rules, they just mention their strong X background means they're a moral person without doing anything
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If you were asked to suggest an entry level book to someone, which would it be? Seems like the ubiquitous answer is 1984.
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Depends on the person, 1984 is good but I know someone who couldn't get into it. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is good for blaze it fags, Siddartha is good for 'spiritual' types, Of Mice and Men is short, well recognised and difficult not to feel some emotion towards, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep or many of Philip K Dick's or Kurt Vonnegut's novels for people who like science/sci-fi. I really enjoyed The Old Man and the Sea in my teens so did a few of my friends, those that did seemed to have kept reading, coincidence I'm sure but worth...
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A Portrait
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stoner

i didn't get much out of it but i imagine for the average normie who never had a moment of introspection it would be revelatory and hook them

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Can the genius /lit/ community help analyse and make a coherent understanding of stefan burnett's lyrics
e.g
[Refrain]
Oh, why me, why me, oh, I mean, oh, why me
Don't see why I need all these hands, can't stand by these
Oh, why me, why me, oh, I mean, oh why me
Don't see why I need all these hands, can't stand by these

[Verse 1]
All my palm lines running, stretching
'Cross my palm like blind cross etching
Palm mummified chimera filming
Bronze my palm now, all brown palm now
Visits some medium, won't...
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Music especially like DG needs music, context of other songs and character of Stefan and so on to make sense. DG seems like an expression of characters of frustration, confusion and usually deemed not just bad but not even worth paying attention to and they do it masterfully I'm.

Analysing their lyrics is like analysing the ramblings of a mad man in the street. It's not the part that's most compelling
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>>8388782
They are actual shit tho, there isn't much to analyze.
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>>8388793
I said try to make a coherent understanding of the lyrics, not give me you two cents of opinion on whether you like the band or not

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Pic unrelated. Does /lit/ like post-post-irony?
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>>8388694
love it
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>>8388732
kill yourself
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>>8388694
>>8388732
>>8388734
samefag

>tfw want to write a history book on verse

I'm not planning on making it incredibly accurate and usable ad a scholarly text, but it seems to be what they did in the old days and I would like to recreate that.

Is it impossible?
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Why would it be impossible?
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>>8388690
>Free verse
avoid this
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>>8389228
A history of verse that doesn't include free verse would be like a history of Europe not including WW1

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>picrelated is your way of gaining insight in to the human condition and experience of the world
>vidrelated is a normal persons way of gaining insight in to the human condition and experience of the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P22gcb4YHso
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I would be bored af if I were a person in that video tho. I've partied enough to know thst it's fun everyone once in a while but dumb sensory stimulation 24/7 gets old really fast unless you're not very smart.
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>Reading for insight

I bet you lift for women too

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Why was Slartibartfast hesitant to tell his name?
While it could totally sound semi-rude in Magrathean also (THGTTG has plenty of such coinsidences), Slarti hardly could've known the Earthling Englishmen would find it such also, or it sounded entirely different and the Babel Fish just translated it to similar rude-sounding nonsense?

Yes, I'm trying to make sense of a minor detail in HGTTG, don't judge me.
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>>8388441
>Yes, I'm trying to make sense of a minor detail in HGTTG, don't judge me.


too late.

your name is Pizpot Gargravarr, isn't it?
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>>8388441
He has a shitty name that's it
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>>8388465
but it's shitty IN ENGLISH.
he's a Magrathean. why would he be shy to say his name to a member of nation whose rudeness conventions he has no idea of?

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For around a month now I have been living in a cabin outside of Haugesund in Norway left to my family in my grandparents' will. In this time I have read, I have written, and against all odds I have even fallen in what I can only assume is love.

I am wondering whether anybody on /lit/, particularly those who have encouraged me and supported my decision to spend a year focusing on my writing, would like to read the first chapter of what may very well be my debut novel. I write this post while sitting on the small back porch area on a wicker chair, my posterior comforted by a green and white pillow, a glass of orange juice filled with pulp on the table beside me along with a cup of coffee and a glass of water filled with ice cubes. It is already sunny and warm and looking across the water I can see a boat being unmoored from a private dock. Anna has left the area today to visit some relatives with her grandmother, and is scheduled to return on Sunday evening, when she will likely come over and prepare a meal for us both (she enjoys cooking and is precociously maternal as far as I am aware), probably pasta with a sauce she herself will make (my favorite so far being tomato and broccoli). I have read seventeen books since arriving here, and numerous poems and short stories. Although I have been here but a month I feel already that I have matured and developed and that gradually something inside me (or, perhaps, my psyche or unconscious) is loosening, as it were, and allowing the words that will populate my novel to flow and my brain to relieve itself, as a great pressure is relieved, or as a river dam is relieved by the great pressure of the water behind it by opening its floodgates.

So, if anybody is interested I will post what I have written thus far.
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I would like to read it. I'm sure part of /lit/ will shit all over you for romantically following your dreams but personally I wish I had the means and honestly the cojones to do something like it myself. Good luck anon.
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Sure
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Just don't sell out to the publishers man, Norwegian publishing always makes you change a lot of shit.

Gjor Hamsun stolt din dumme jævel

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I feel like reading something that is set during or before the renaissance and has a heavy theme on religion. Preferably christianity or islam.

Any good books that fit this description? Thanks in advance
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My upcoming novel famalam
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Hilary Mantel's "Wolf Hall"

Read it. It's good.
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>>8388408
The Divine comedy
Song of Roland
Canterbury Tales
The Decameron

Honestly, there's not that much fiction with religious themes in that time, but there is a lot of non fiction.

I would like to know more about Norse mythology. Of course people would say "read the Eddas", but I don't know Icelandic and I'm not going to put my time to it in the near future, and I don't want to read it translated.
So does anyone know a good book that summarize the gods, myths, etc?
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>>8388399
Just listen to the myths and legends podcast episodes where he tells the stories of the Völsung saga. That should give you the plots at least. Then once you've got the flavour you can go off and read up on the deitis/heroes which most interest you.

He's also delightful to listen to.
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>>8388399
start with the greeks
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>>8388399
Just read a translation of the Eddas for Christ's sake. You guys and your "translations r BAD!" stuff.

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Hi, did anyone else go autism on the various texts found in the Elder Scrolls mythos? Here are some of my impressions. I'd say the best and most entertaining works are the treacherous histories, personal journals, certain fables, and the gothic/horror pieces. Histories specific to the main plot of a franchise entry seem incomplete, and require ocmpletion of the game, or spoilering appendings from the wiki to be complete. The geographical notes are unfortunately subsumed by the wiki, but can be read for flavor sometimes. Overall, 100-200 pages worth of typical sized paperbacks...
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>>8388377
Lusty Argonian Maid

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You'd probably be better off posting this in /v/
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>>8388387
Something I considered. I feel more at home here, and I'm pretty sure /v/ has a higher noise to signal ratio.

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I just finished this, and I feel a little bit robbed. All that build-up for fucking nothing?

Was Gately's final flashback him dying in the hospital? And was Hal's weird seizure shit really supposed to be from fucking weed withdrawal? I thought the entire time he'd be some kind of subject for the tape, and since his dad's ghost explicitly said it was made for Hal he would survive watching it or something, but no. Fucking weed withdrawal? And how in the actual hell does everyone escape the AFR unscathed when they had just murdered dozens of...
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dude, no one Actually reads this
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>>8388366
It wasn't just withdrawal, it was caused by all the stress and ridiculous expectations from his parents and ETA and society at large (considering that ETA and the rehab were running a cooperative business).
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>>8388389
That makes a little more sense, but compared to the hellish trauma many of the other characters in the book go through, Hal getting that fucked up from stress he had already grown up with comes off as, I don't know, lame. Anticlimactic.

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What do you think of him /lit/?
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pleb fodder
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>>8388344
I enjoyed reading A Thousand Splendid Suns, very comfortable
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>>8388344

The underage gangbang anal rape in Kite Runner was quite arousing desu.

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Who is Zizek and why is he a meme? Is he a good philosopher or what?
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>>8388310
As with all continental philosophers after Heidegger, he is a worthless charlatan pseudo-intellectual obfuscatory erudite whose absolutely meaningless thoughts are not worth the paper they are written on
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probably one of the most intelligent people alive

it's only redditor normies with 'hurr dude coke xd' jokes comments on youtube videos who dislike him (or any philosopher because dude science lmao)
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>>8388310
He's philosopher of the continental tradition. People who have no idea what they're talking about and who've read little will say all sorts of things about him because of this.

That's why you'll see people say "Zizek's a posturing moron with nothing to say" or what have you. They haven't read him or the basics of continental philosophy. He's a very very smart man with some interesting work.

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In that last week or so, I've read:
>Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
>Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
>A Brief History of Time
>The First Book in A Series of Unfortunate Events
>The House on Pooh Corner
> The Animorphs Book series (the whole thing to my shame)
Thoughts on some of these books? I had not read most of them as a child, but I don't think I would have...
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I don't know about these books, so I'll just shamelessly shill my list like the egotistical jerkoff I am

>finished 1984 ending pissed me off

>reading Going Clear

>Reading The Rise and Fall of Rome

>Reading Neuromancer
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>>8388294
I've only read 1984 out of these, and agree about the ending. However, I've not really found a dystopian book that focused this much on the way the system works *and* had a satisfying ending. Maybe I'll try to tackle that challenge at some point as a writer.
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>>8388302
I read an article that basically said that G.O. did that to show the how hopeless a dystopia society would be, that all fine but I also think it was a cop out because G.O. had trouble finishing it.

Which one of you weirdos is this? leave meagan alone.
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he is responding to Meagan's video project with details of his autistic day to day life.
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maybe the most autistic thing i've seen all year.
would you send your favorite author codes from bottles of soda in order for her to get a t-shirt, /lit/?
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she's pretty cool. glad I subscribed

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so not reading Part 2 of Don Quixote is a meme right? why the fuck do so many editions publish Part 1 and Part 2 separately? Part 1 literally ends on a cliffhanger.
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>>8388254
It doesn't end in a cliffhanger. In fact, it takes it's sweet-ass time making its point. Steven Moore (The History of the Novel) wrote on DQ:
>No character in literature has been more misunderstood than Don Quixote, usually because readers latch on to one aspect of his character and ignore Cervantes' multiple ironies, stripping the benighted knight of his sixteenth-century context and dressing him in their own ideals and aspirations. Thus he was merely a comic character until...
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>>8388346
Also, I'm sorry if that "it's" all the way in the second sentence makes it hard to take me seriously the rest of the way through. It's late.
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>>8388346
>In a novel that is primarily about the dangers of self-delusion...Whatever else it may be, DQ1 is unquestionably about the art of fiction, both writing it and (mis)reading it. It contains more discussions of books, literary theory, and advice on writing than any novel I know. It is not merely an attack on novels of chivalry, but an attack on bad writing, in any genre."
What. A. Pleb.

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Who is the greatest living American writer, Pynchon or McCarthy?
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Fuck the memes, man, Pynchon is the greatest American writer, period.
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>>8388205
you honestly couldn't compare the two on the same scale without overlooking everything that makes either of them great
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>>8388213
This
>>8388211
He's definitely in the highest caliber, I don't know about best.

I will say though, that I think McCarthy more consistently writes better books, but that Pynchon's best are absolutely incredible.

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Why does everyone hate it?

I have never seen or read any adaption relating to this book, yet all I hear is libel about its idealogy. Can someone tell me why it is so hated?

What's wrong with it?
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>>8388204
long
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>>8388204
I don't like it because it is atheistic and takes individualism to an extreme.
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>>8388235
>atheistic

lol

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This is Dutch author Thomas Olde Heuvelt

Praise for his first book Hex:
>“This is totally, brilliantly original.” ―Stephen King

>“HEX is creepy and gripping and original, sure to be one of the top horror novels of 2016.” ―George R.R. Martin

>“[O]ne of the most original, clever, and terrifying books to be published in the 21st century”. ―New York Journal of Books

How do you feel reading critically acclaimed books by Chad?
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>>8388188
I would read a book by this qt.
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King and Martin have slightly dubious taste, but I guess I can trust them when it comes to pulpy, bloody horror.
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>>8388188
Never heard of the guy, and I'm Dutch

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First time dipping my toes into Dostoevsky and I'm going to start with Crime & Punishment. I've narrowed down my translations to Oliver Ready, Constance Garnet and Pevear and Volokhonsky.

While I am a competent reader my comprehension is probably not on par with the average /lit/ reader so which translation do you think I should go with to enjoy this book the most?
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>>8388185
Oliver, Garnet is ""fine"" but it changes a lot of things for being "inappropriate", P&V are a fucking joke.
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André Markowicz is the best Dostoyevsky translator.
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>>8388185

Hello OP. I've only read the Garnett translation, and I read it at a time when I didn't bother about selecting the "right" translation.

I found the Garnett translation to be a pleasant read, but I think a big complaint that modern audiences (/lit/) have about it is that it is a bit stilted and "too-nineteenth century", ironically, even though the whole point of reading the book is to read a great nineteenth century novel.

I can't speak for the other translations,...
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Hello /lit/.
I have just finished reading Ayn Rand's "Atlus Shrugged" and I got say I really enjoy it.

I am a high school student who doesn't read books much but I really enjoyed this book and completely agree with Ayn Rand's views and opinions on economics and I now think objectivism is one of the best philosophies in existance and i was just wondering what /lit/ thinks of this book.
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0/10 bait
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>>8388180
>objectivism is one of the best philosophies in existance
I hope you are joking.
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>>8388257
>falling for obvious bait


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