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What advice would you give to someone who is considering writing conspiracy theory novels for the sole purpose of making money off of stupid people's ignorance. How exactly would I get started and make my self stand out among the mountains of other stupid crap in the scene? I never wrote anything professionally but my teachers/professors had always complemented my creativity and imagination on writing assignments back in school.
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>What advice
Realize that you're not nearly as smart as you think you are and nobody will publish your shitty book.
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>>8383918
complimented*

also that sounds like a shit idea, soz m8
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>>8383918
Pretty much the only way to get one of these things noticed is if you host a radio/tv show on the topic, or if you're some sort of established "personality" in general.

Start a podcast I guess? It'll probably be a lot more work than you think though and will most likely not be worth the time or effort if you're just looking to make a quick buck.

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I don't think I will ever be as happy as I was as a kid again

The modern world is just too hard to understand, I really don't want to be part of this selfie, clubbing and social media stuff anyway, it causes too much problems
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Who says you have to be a part of all that?

Sounds like you are making things harder for yourself than the things surrounding your life.
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>>8383889
>I really don't want to be part of this selfie, clubbing and social media stuff anyway

You shouldn't assume happiness comes externally. Find happiness within yourself.
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>>8383889
>I really don't want to be part of this selfie, clubbing and social media stuff anyway

Talentless Bieber and Kangay West ruined music, why don't my friends at school listen to REAL music like Queen??

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Anyone publish their stories online? l've reached the point where I'm confident enough to have others read my work.

Platform recommendations? I was thinking either a blog or a website.
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>>8383873
no idea
I'm literary very isolated
I wouldn't recommend a blog, it's like publishing to a trashcan.
maybe send your stories to penguin
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>>8383924
Don't be autistic, sharing your work helps growth.
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>>8383993
you didn't get my point
I'm just saying that uploading to a blog has nothing to do with "publishing"
for another metaphor, say it's like pinnning your story to the toilet wall.

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How would you call a suit like those the X-men wear?
I'm writting a thing with super heroes that wear suits like that, and I don't know wich expression to use for the reader to visualize them.
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>>8383832

fucksuits
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>>8383832
effay uniforms
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unitard

Hi /lit/, I just finished reading the last book on my stack and really don't know where to go because you autistic fags memed me to death and now I can only think of the fucking Karamazov Brothers, The Trial, The Waves, IJ, 2666, etc, you know the drill.
So I decided to start the /lit/ 100 books journey but after searching for a bit I found like 5 different pictures with strong variants (Some even feature Harry Potter or Hitchikers guide to the Galaxy)
Please post what you think is the best /lit/ 100 books

(Please I don't want to be told how I should read...
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>>8383836
I don't trust one guy's opinion and I'm asking for varied opinions so I can choose from.
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What kind of dumb shit is this?

Kys if you buy any of those shit books.

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What books out their take a good objective look at either, without shilling one or being thinly-veiled capitalism shilling.

I'm going to read ye ol' manifesto, obviously, just because it is what it is, despite being hardcore anti-capitalist shilling.
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>>8383770
haha good luck
I've asked this question several times to people from all countries, never had an answer.

Finally at least I found pic related, available in all languages (except english)
>Stalin, history of a black legend

stalin was against equal pay
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well at least he has some work translated to english
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>>8383770
just balance early thackery with late thackery

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For those who like trolley problem memes, you'll like this site.

http://moralmachine.mit.edu/

Here's an example problem I had. All the questions you get will be scenarios created by other users.
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>>8383536
>assigning agency to a car
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>>8383536
Why doesn't the car just stop? It shouldn't move faster than the stopping distance (from the farthest point its sensors reach back to the car) allows it, problem solved.
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>>8383566
t.nigger smoke degrasse tyson

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Can anyone recommend some American Indian literature? Fiction, nonfiction, poetry, war tactics?
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Sure, I remember reading a couple decent books that were by natives, basically about life on the reservation, let me just do a little research to get the title and the authors name.
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There are three Authors that I would suggest reading, they are Sherman Alexi, Leslie Marmon Silko and M. Scott Momaday. I haven't read anything from any of them in years, but I remember that I liked what I read. Hope that helps.
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Black Elk Speaks

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>current year
>he reads fiction
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>>8383446
I apologize for enjoying things. It won't happen again
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>>8383446
> current year
> doesn't read fiction

Fiction is like one of the few sources of good entertainment we have left. With comedy shows being shit now and all that
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>>8383446
Fiction is the highest good. All other actions should be done with the intent of consuming or producing ever better fiction

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.....nice list but where should I start?
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:^)
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Haha nice response Anon! Here have a nice picture of a sexy girl u will never fuck because you´re a piece of shit!!
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>>8383443
Starship Troopers, Christianity and Culture, Decline of the West, Constitution of Liberty, and Demons. First and last are from Fiction camp, the rest are nonfiction.

I don't know much about poetry other than Eliot, and I can't recommend it over any of the other choices. I have heard good things about "An Essay on Man" though.

May I add a recommendation?

The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius or How to Win Friends and Influence People. The latter is a bit of a meme around here, but...
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Just ordered the complete works of Moliere, Shakespeare and Sophokles

I'm about to be fucking lit
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sophokles is really cool i agree
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i must say, i did not like tartuffe that much
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>>8383422
Fuck yeah anon, let's get some bottles breaking for you, my nig!

Tonight we defy the gods, like Antigone, to honour our literary brethren! We shag our mothers like Oedipus but with no regrets, for as we post-ironic millenials tend to say, you only live once!

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wtf i hate england now
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Go read Kierkegaard you loser, being is thought you fucking faggot stop biting the pre-socratic pill so hard
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>>8383354
>English = Utilitarianism

Wasn't John Locke an Englishman?
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>>8383354
me too desu

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Any advice on writing good poetry, /lit/?
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Write in structured meter, at least at first.
Read and write lots.
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be a sadboy

also helps if you are Shakespeare
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>>8383331
Be yourself. Your poetry is aan expression of you.

My poetry is shit but at least it's MY shit

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How do you find critical analysis of literature that focuses on the style of the writer rather than the meaning? Something that analyzes the syntactical rhythm, vocabulary, grammar etc. of the text in a detailed way? I feel like this sort of analysis would really help me as a writer, but I have a hard time finding it.
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>>8383314
Just analyze it yourself, anon. The opinion of critics won't help you. Get down and dirty with it, climb in under the sheets and do the hanky-panky! The only way to get to know a text indeed. Love dat skylight.
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>>8383321
t-thanks
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>>8383314
bump

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Are there any books where the male main character is literally fucked in the ass by the main villain?
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>>8383261
Literally everything Chuck Tingle ever wrote, I think. Although they're probably not really villains.
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Das Kapital by Karl Marx
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Check your mother's bookshelf

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You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘Infinite Jest’ [regarded by many as Wallace’s masterpiece] is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.
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>>8383223
Fuck you, you're gay
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>>8383229
/thread
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>>8383223
go to bed grandpa
you're 87 aren't you

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>mfw I realize free will isn't a thing
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aww babbys for existential book? time for snack!
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>>8383185
He looks almost like an abo there.
Tolstoy was a hack.
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>>8383385
nah, hes literature is timeless, you arent even worthy of licking the shit off his boots, u fucking faggot

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What sort of writing can we expect out of this new publication?
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>>8383149

This is obviously a parody designed to piss off "whiny manbabbies." Don't let them succeed, you cucks.
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And people ask me why I don't read the news.
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>>8383149
nvm first article is already out
https://archive.is/8Iot2

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would it be bad to explore 4chan and meme culture in a novel of the contemporary world? it feels somehow dirty or trivial to write about, but it is no insignificant force in our world
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stfu your never going to write anything in your life you fucking faggot
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>>8383151
Resentful failed writer detected.
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>>8383151
/thread

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is it worth it? is it actually all about prostitutes? will it make me come more often than lolita did?
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>>8383122
great pose gets kinda boring at bits
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>will it make me come more often than lolita did?
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>>8383122

With Henry Miller, start with "Sexus" then the tropic books.

Definitely worth it, Miller is my favorite writer.

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Critique my poetry bruhs


You are you, You were born as you, You can't be anyone else but you, If you try to be something your not than you are not you, You are the only one who should be you, Nobody else can make you feel like you, Your destiny is controlled by you, Be you and only you, You are the only one you have in this world in the end, Be the one thing that makes everyone beautiful, Younique
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I don't like it, it doesn't have any essence, you just threw random shit in rhyme
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>>8383106
Very good, dug it. Reminds me a bit of Baudelaire and Les fleurs de mal. You should look for an open spot at a poetry reading and go out there and perform. You are on the right path, bruv.

In Defense of Purple Prose, by Paul West

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/12/15/books/in-defense-of-purple-prose.html?pagewanted=all

(…)the almost lost art of phrasemaking attracts the scorn only of those who have never made up a stylish phrase in their lives, as if style had become taboo, a menace to people, gods and cars.

Of course, purple is not only highly colored prose. It is the world written up, intensified and made pleasurably palpable, not only to suggest the impetuous abundance of Creation, but also to add to it by showing - showing off - the expansive...
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(…)

I am suggesting that purple prose reminds us of things we do ill to forget: the arbitrary, derivative and fictional nature of language; its unreliable relationship with phenomena (''cuckoo'' is close, but ''indri,'' meaning ''look!'' in Malagasy, got tagged on to the monkey of that name by mistake); its kinship with paint and voodoo and gesture and wordless song; its sheer mystery; its enormous distance from mathematics and photography; its...
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Everybody says Shakespeare is great, even the greatest of all poets (he certainly is up there, no doubt about it), yet every new writer who uses metaphors and imagery is deemed as purple, and that in the bad sense of the word. So why can Shakespeare, a master of purple, be valued and other deeply metaphorical writers be known as false and artificial and empty Peacocks
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>>8383247
I assume it's because their purple prose is bad and Shakespeare's is good.

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thoughts on this individual?
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situation
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mac&cheese
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kek manatee

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Does everyone have a higher self that is same for all beings?
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No, just me.
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>>8383070

It's not the same, or even consistent within yourself for overlong without you consciously maintaining it as such (and even then it will still be a relative rather than absolute resemblance). Neither is the daimon/daemon/clan totem/HGA exactly the same between cultures or even individuals within the same culture. It is worth noting that there are more similarities than differences, however; so there are boundaries. But within boundaries there are still infinite possibilities.
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>>8383070
I'm writing a series of poems about this very Idea.

Yes.

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Let's get a thread started on The Wake. Our thoughts on this masterpiece and all it entails. Which is broad, considering it is the final culmination of culture, the hegelian end of history, and thus contains the totality of experience in one literary artifact. Let's unravel this beast.

Is it just me who love Joyce's style in this one? The Stream of consciousness style invokes a dreamy feel, and the cyclical nature of the work takes you deeper into the mind of Finnegan by mimicking his dream cycles. I feel the theme is really the cyclical nature of time...
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>>8383069
This conversation is better done in dissertations.
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Wakeposting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAc901X7gK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1kaHt3Fa8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8kFqiv8Vww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTb9oqNMma4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nw1CI2TCqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV3vT5nW_I4
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>>8383075
But the point is to let The Wake free and bring it out to the people to let them experience its presence. To bring Finnegan out of the college dissertations and out into the minds of the people on the streets, the chan and so on.

(Although it is already there, but they'll only realize that in their awakening; in their opague rememberance of a dream image).

I'm looking to pick up some light reading and one genre I haven't really explored is period pulp noir. Unfortunately due to the nature of the genre, there's a ton of rubbish. Any decent authors that stand out in this genre?
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>period pulp
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>>8383072
What would you call 'Stuff written in the 1920s, 30s and 40s in the noir/pulp genre' then?

I'm feeling burnt out from an MA focusing on European Early Medieval legal and political systems and thought and just want something relaxing to read.
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>>8383065
Raymond Chandler and Dashiell Hammet

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>Hume’s view on external objects is that the mind is programmed to form some concept of the external world, although this concept or idea is really just a fabrication.

So is Hume an idealist?
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The passage you quote doesn't seem to strictly imply that he is an idealist, but:

Hume adheres to something called 'phenomenalism' which states that the concept of matter is incoherent and that it makes no sense to say that matter and sense data are two different things. We supposedly interpret our interactions with everyday 'physical' objects via our senses. But Humes denies this; he says that we have no way of separating ourselves and looking at the external world without this sense data. Thus, he denies that we interpret the world (there is...
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>yfw Hume is actually a neutral monist

http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/5432
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Yes. Radical empiricism is absolute idealism.

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Last one died

O R E G O N
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I'm sure I've seen some of you autists around here lurking second hand book stores.
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>>8383035
Anyone at Missouri?
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Norway ~Oslo?
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Tolouse?

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What is he listening to, lit?
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>>8382958
http://youtu.be/80X0pbCV_t4
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>>8382958
You see, he was already listening to ideology all the time.
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merzbow

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Does anyone here have experience with finding free Audible files online?

Anyone know where I can get a free download of The Recognitions read by Nick Sullivan?
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the only place i've found is audiobookbay. i also recommend seeing if you can interlibrary loan audio CDs of certain things that you cannot find there. maybe check soulseek, but audiobooks seem to be rare on there.
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i feel like the recognitions would be a terrible book to 'listen to,' rather than read. i couldn't find it on audiobookbay. all i could find of gaddis on soulseek is epubs. sorry bro. i recommend ILLing it.
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>>8383954
His other books do make more sense as audio because they're mostly dialogue, but I think a competent enough narrator could make The Recognitions work.

Though if you're talking about a first reading, I agree that it's a terrible idea to listen to it in lieu of one. In general, I think audiobooks of anything more substantiative than airport fiction should only be listened to after at least one reading as dramatizations of sorts.


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