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this is more important to modern American culture than any other novel, prove me wrong
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>>8382864
nah, senpai.
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>infinite jest

more like endless jape
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>>8382864
It's too early to tell

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>"It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents — except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness."

Ask any English undergrad to explain why this line is bad and they'll make a fool of themselves. Common explanations include

>dark night is a pleonasm

There...
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>>8382861
I don't think it is dreadful, but the addition of (for it is in London that our scene lies) makes it sound comical. It reads as if the narrator forgot to mention that detail earlier and it breaks the rythmn of the sentence.

I would split the sentence in two, ending the first at up the streets. The next would read: 'The wind rattled along the housetops and fiercly agitated the scanty flames of those lamps which struggled against the darkness.'

The third sentence would be the better place...
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>>8382898
Actually: 'The wind rattled along the housetops, fiercly agitating those lamps struggling against the darkness.' Sounds better.
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>>8382912
>those lamps
why

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How to be subtle in mocking?
My chad brother died recently. I didn't care. He was 4 years older than me and treated me like shit, just like my whole family. However, I have been asked to give a eulogy at his funeral. I cannot refuse without seeming like a monster, so I have agreed and prepared a short Eulogy. I am attempting to make it passive aggressive and I wish to use the moment to expose how poorly my brother treated me. Do you think this is a wise idea? I am hoping to tell a story that makes me look sympathetic and makes people feel bad for even attending his funeral,...
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No. Assuming this isnt bait, this is a horrible idea and will further alienate you from your family. Say something generic about how you didnt always see eye to eye but he was there when you needed him etc etc.
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>>8382811
b8 is too obvious. Your post was enough to make me think you could be a sperg, but then the eulogy took it too far, way too fast. 3/10
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>>8382811
Don't fucking do it. The funeral is about your brother's memory. Not your petty insecurities. Grow the fuck up and stop being so self-absorbed. I hope you are baiting right now.

where to start with Noam Chomsky?
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Roger Scruton - Thinkers of the New Left
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*takes a long drag from his cigarette* Ahh.. so refreshing.. Oh, hello. Didn't see you there.


>>8382807
Listen to this man.
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>>8382803
>where to start with Noam Chomsky?
You should ask him through his university email

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Not sure if this is the best place to ask but how can I acquire better sense of humor and become funnier person?
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Funny people are boring.
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>>8382816
Well that seems to not be the case usually but even then I don't want to become a comedian, just to have a decent sense of humor.
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>>8382816

Seconded. But humor isn't boring.

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I am going to read him and see what all the fuss is all about, both positive and negative.

What are his best works?
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IT...Read IT
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I can't recommend anything in good conscience.
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wonder if he reads

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Is NaNoWriMo something you guys discuss?
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Sadly.
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Pretty much every thread about it here that I've seen has been people shitting on it. Which is really all there is to say about it t b h.
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>>8382793
Do they not like how it prioritizes quantity over quality?

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Just read symposium, what's with all the homo shit?
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it's not gay if they're younger
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>>8382708
It's the manliest form of masculinity
Insecure faggot
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>>8382708

Because Christianity ruined sanctity of embracing another man's body with one's own. Christianity is full of philistine plebs.

In honor of the Olympics, write poems about sports and the glories of the human body.

Or simply post poems or any excerpts that you like about the subject.

Also, did you know that there used to be poetry competitions in the early modern Olympics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_competitions_at_the_Summer_Olympics
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>>8382659

More inspiration
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A French gymnast fell
His leg broke (oh, hell)
Wait, not French - he's Arab
Then who cares. They smell
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>>8382668

miring

http://aquicoral.blogspot.com.br/2016/02/stadio-dei-marmi-escultura.html

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During a conversation with Leonard Pierce of the A.V. Club, Harold Bloom said, "I don't know what I would choose if I had to select a single work of sublime fiction from the last century... it would probably be Mason & Dixon, if it were a full-scale book, or if it were a short novel it would probably be The Crying Of Lot 49. Pynchon has the same relation to fiction, I think, that my friend John Ashbery has to poetry: he is beyond compare."

do you agree? why haven't you read this yet?
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>>8382628
>Bloom puts Mason & Dixon over Gravity's Rainbow
Pretty based tbqh
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>>8382630
Good post.
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I really don't understand Bloom. He's pretty good on pre-modern literature, even if he is a one-trick pony. But on modern literature he likes the schlockiest fucking HE HE HE ITS POSTMODERN garbage that was only good for 5 years before it was overdone.

He just seems like more the kind of guy who would go and explain to random kids playing Pokemon in a museum why they should pay attention to some Durer painting, than the guy who jerks off in front of Rauschenberg's "Explosive Chili Farts #9."

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Why doesn't he use quotation marks?
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He thinks they're too messy and unnecessary. Also it forces him to distinguish the voice of the characters mind as well as forcing the reader to do more work to figure it out. Im not sure if he intends it that way but
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>>8382602
Good post.
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WEIRD

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Never read a book since high school. Now 23. Is it too late for me to become /lit/?
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>>8382580
No.
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>>8382590
Good post.
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go read

So im barkey getting into reading, but im looking for something sinister. Like an epic that involes going through hell or something similar. Brutal, something that youd hear in metal music. If you can please help me, id much apreciate it
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>>8382548
None of you faggots can help me? Is it because i spelled barley wrong?
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>>8382548
>>8382574
Are you a dog or a cereal crop?

Dante.
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>>8382574
Good post.

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Is there a reason to do good for other people besides religion?
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>>8382523

Reciprocal altruism
Valuing your own character in reference to some moral system
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>>8382523
>he posted from his mom's house
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>>8382523
Earning Fame, gratitude, glory, respect.
Or empathy, or self-satisfaction.

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I want to talk about this book, but it seems like the only things people discuss are the prose and the funny anecdotes.

Why is Dixon able to do all this crazy shit like fly, lift that heavy bathtub, visit the center of the Earth?

Who is Haligast?

What's up with Ethelmer and De Pugh flirting with Tenebrae?
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>>8382513
DUDE MAGIC LMAO

cuz hitting on your cousin is fun.
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>>8382513
why we're there giant ass weed trees. why we're there talking mechanical ducks. maggggggiiiiiccc talking dog
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why can't they release a decent looking paperback of this shit already.

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Have you noticed the huge irony that the people who go on about the Ancient Greeks being so important wouldn't pay any attention to Socrates or Plato or Aristotle if they were born during their era? They'd be too busy wanking over the Ancient Egyptians.

And so on back in time, until the first group of humans would have some people claiming that Neanderthal mud paintings are the most profound thoughts of all time and only a disgusting pleb could think otherwise.
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bepis
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Did you actually put any significant amount of thought into this post or did you just need something to do to fill the time you spent sitting constipated in the bathroom?
How about actually reading a Thucydides or something before posting shit? I will give you a slight spoiler: if what your used to is "Neanderthal mud paintings" (which the quality of your post seems to support), you're in for a wild ride, little frogposter.
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>>8382998
OP is actually not a bad apercu

your post sucks

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>Bigwig bit Hawkbit

Oh, shit! God damn! Bigwig is a savage! He's straight outta Owsla; he doesn't give a FUCK. He literally puts the "bit" in Hawkbit; I guess that's why they call him Hawkbit. More like Hawkbitch though am I right?

Where were you when Hawkbit got BTFO'd by a real man? He got fucking owned; he got fucking rekt son. Git good scrub. GG no re. RIP in piece bitch nigga, zero fucks given by anyone.

Bigwig confirmed for being alpha as fuck; Hawkbit and his wife's son on suicide watch...
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It was good my man.
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.....Bigwig?
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>>8382509
Bigwiiiiiig.

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>Is not what Badiou calls the Event, at its most basic, the very rise of re-presentation or appearing out of the flat stupidity of being? So that the Event proper (the Truth-Event in Badiou’s sense) is the For-itself of the In-itself of appearing? Insofar as appearing is always appearing for a thought (for a thinking subject), we can go further and say that the rise of a thought as such is an Event―as Badiou likes to say, thought as such is communist.

http://mariborchan.si/text/articles/the-ontology-of-quantum-physics/

STEM here....
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>>8382436
They definitely fucked up by linking you continental philosophy. For some unfathomable reason people like to preach about how philosophy isn't irrelevant in the face of modern day science and then fail to acquaint themselves with the philosophy of physics. Read Maudlin, Albert, Shimony, Wallace (no relation), Lewis (also no relation), Bell, and McMullin if you want an actual discussion on ontological issues in contemporary physics.
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Zizek is a retarded pastiche of jargon without the thought that sustained it. He's the fucking inside-out skin man of philosophy. Jesus Christ. Watching him talk about real, perennial philosophical issues, just as an excuse to show off how efficiently he can slather his naked Slovenian body with French jargon of stale 1960s/1970s vintage, is like watching Sophia get raped or something.

>In positing a thinking subject as distinct from the "mere" matter from which it arises, do we commit [look, I know this jargon from Badiou], or do...
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Cult classic or overrated YA trash?
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>>8382389
we make charts specifically to render these threads redundant. And yet here we are.
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There's nothing cult about it, snowflake. It's more akin to ya trash though.
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>>8382389
Good kek.

what are the flat out most absurd books you know?
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I could possibly make a guess as to the most flat out absurd but the flat out most absurd I cannot come up with a fit for
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>>8382355
Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World
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>>8382355
my diary desu

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Just finished this book, quite possible one of the greatest books I have ever read, really. Question is, anyone have any theories on what happened in the end? Mine is that the 3rd man pissing outside the outside was the main character, the man himself. Inside was the little girl that went missing whom the Judge presumably raped and murdered.
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>>8382341
Outside the *outhouse.
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>>8382341
should have read butcher's crossing it's better

kys, etc.
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>>8382484
why do you post this in every BM thread.
Butcher's Crossing and Blood Meridian aren't even the same genre, one's southern goth and the other is anti-western. If anything you should compare BC to Suttree, they have the same basic premise and themes.

Is there anyone who knows this book?
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>>8382209
Isn't this the book Palahniuk used for the bomb recipes in Fight Club?
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I've heard that some of the recipes in it are specifically (and unnecessarily) dangerous to the user, presumably some COINTELPRO shit.

If you want to blow up the president or your dad or something you're probably better off with TM31-210, The US Army's Improvised Munitions Handbook.

Kropotkin and Bakunin and Czolgosz are pretty cool but "propaganda of the deed*" really isn't a good idea any more.

*here I mean targeted assassination, which is not what that originally referred to (exclusively) but is often how it is used
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>>8382239
>"propaganda of the deed*" really isn't a good idea any more.

I would argue that it isn't so much of an idea as it is a description of psychology. When you see others acting out, you are more inclined to act out yourself. See spree shooters and ISIS for reference.

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How does one write a script (for a play, mostly) /lit/?
Any tips? Advice?
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C'mon you filthy cunts, you aught to know something.
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>become well read enough/discerning enough that you can tell the good from the bad
>work your way into writers circles and look into their work
>once you stumble upon something good steal the work and kill the writer claiming it as your own

Alternatively you could just cultivate your talent and with some little hard work write your own without looking for some advice from the hacks on here who are going to offer you nothing constructive.
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Look at existing scripts you like and write yours in a similar fashion

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What's the best on this list?
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literature is not a good medium for surrealism
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>>8382154
I don't care, I'm gonna read some of these.
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where the fuck can i find goddamn edition 69

what's with the mixed reviews on this book?
is it boring? is it overrated for an underrated book?
gimme the haps
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>>8382136
It's a very interesting book written about a boring man. I highly recommend it actually.
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I don't know about over or underrated but I sure enjoyed it and would recommend it.
the prose isn't anything special but it has a very nice atmosphere, prepare for FEELS.
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>>8382136
wtf i hate stoner now

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What is more effective for your reading focus? Green tea or coffee?
Also, what other substances do you take to improve your reading?
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>>8382089
>Green tea
Good choice.
>coffee
Good choice.

I would go with some herbal tea, like ginkgo tea. Maybe hard liquor.
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>>8382093
How das hard liquor help? Now I'm really interested in trying it out.
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>>8382100
*does

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William H Gass

or

William Gaddis

who's is the better author? and why haven't you read them yet. how is America so damned talented.
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who's what?
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haven't read much by either, but i am a big fan of this photgraph, so Gass wins out.
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>>8383994
What's his problem?

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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/aug/10/cloud-atlas-astonishingly-different-in-us-and-uk-editions-study-finds

> In the UK text, for example, Mitchell writes at one point that: “Historians still unborn will appreciate your cooperation in the future, Sonmi ~451. We archivists thank you in the present. […] Once we’re finished, the orison will be archived at the Ministry of Testaments. […] Your version of the truth is what matters.”

>In the US edition, the lines are: “On behalf of my ministry, thank...
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burgers on suicide watch
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>>8382058
>Historians still unborn will appreciate your cooperation in the future, Sonmi ~451. We archivists thank you in the present. […] Once we’re finished, the orison will be archived at the Ministry of Testaments.

What's wrong with wanting your books in English, without all these made-up fantasy words?
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>cuck Atlas

No care

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What should I read to learn more about Islam?
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>not reading for prosody
uwot8
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>>8382045
the Koran in Arabic

the last summer of reason
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>>8382045
/int/ threads whenever there's a bombing in Europe

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how much money should I use as my bookmark for J R? should I use one of my stocks or bonds?
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A fake 20 dollar bill
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>>8382038
I use an Iranian 1000 Rials note

>(0.000025 British Pound)
kek
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>>8382038
A four dollar bill or a worthless penny stock.


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