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What are some books that make you smarter?

I tired of reading fiction and simply being entertained. You can learn real things from reading fiction, but not anything of much worth. It plays a second fiddle to a fictional plot you will most likely forget about a week after you finish the book.

Which books will make me smarter if I take the time to read them?
>Pic unrelated
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Any book will make you smarter so long as you take the time and digest the information which is presented. Look up the definitions of the words you don't know. Read history, philosophy, science, etc.
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Learn about critical thinking and any book will do it.
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I recommend starting with basic economics, wealth of nations, wealth by foreign trade,(wasn't the right name but whatever look it up), Marx capital, not necessarily their work but how contemporaries have translated it. Umm machiavelli the prince, (kissingers doctoral thesis on it and nuclear weapons and foreign policy), art of war, clausowits fog of war. Biographies. Sorry, normally more coherent but on phone and working so fuck it, you get the point

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but I need your help because I know you're the smartest people on this site.

I already was a depressed, sad and lonely person before taking the redpill, but since I swallowed it things have just gotten worse, I feel empty and can't enjoy anything. At least when I was a high-schooler I still could truly enjoy some things like music, videogames and movies.

But now I just don't care about anything, most people seem shallow and fake and mass-media is just a big lie. I don't care about being an adult, marrying, having children, going to parties,...
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>>8379903
Get some professional help, it'll make you feel special u melodramatic twat

And don't waste this boards time with shit like this, it's short enough already
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>>8379903
I think you should take up jogging, it's good even if you're a poorfag and it'll help balance you out a little bit. At the very least you'll be in good shape before you kill yourself.

Before you an hero you should try hedonism. Or reading.
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You care about a lot of shit, you self absorbed twat, and by "a lot of shit" I do mean "you".
>waaaah, i might have to be responsible for myself
>waaaah, why aren't other people good enough for me
>waaaah, i'm so good for my parents i believe they'd rather have me tortured than be deprived of my presence
>waaaah, it's everyone else's fault
You're a dumb, boring fuck, and you won't understand...
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Hello /lit/, what do you guys think of Ernest Cline's work

I personally haven't enjoyed reading this much ever. Its insanely imaginative and makes you feel like you are in a movie or something
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>>8379894
sounds like you are a mong with the reading abilities of a fucking fart.
Go read something that don't come with a fucking toy.
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>>8379904
get out of here pleb , bet you havn't even read it
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It's nerd power fantasies and 80s nostalgia references that appeal to people who vigorously read The Oatmeal and goes to "SCIENCE IS FUCKING AWESOME" facebook/tumblr/subreddits. You know, that guy on campus who has Scott Pilgrim t-shirts, a Adventure Time backpack and a unread copy of Infinite Jest.

RP1 is essentially a LJ/tumblr treatise about how Fandom Is The Most Important Thing In My Life Mom/Dad And You Just Don't Understand! Nobody does anything original, it's all just pop culture references.

Armada has a part where Generic Military...
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Whats the best fiction set in ancient Rome?
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My Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's Dad's...
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>>8379858
Colleen McCullough's Masters of Rome series.
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>>8379858
>fiction

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Do we like him?
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Can't you just think for yourself you stupid fucking ape?
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>>8380079
lel
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>>8379839
He's the most reddit of 20th-century authors

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is it Pentecostalism?
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>>8379763
There is no "most accurate practice of the Bible". The Bible is only half of Christianity, and the other half is doctrine. Orthodox Christianity is the most accurate because it's literally the same practice that has been done since the Apostles.
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>>8379763
east orthodox
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>>8379901
> it's literally the same practice that has been done since the Apostles

1000 drachmas have been deposited in your account.

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What is the best ghost story?
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Your grandma sucking off Sinatra
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>>8379677
I read We Have Always Lived in the Castle this year and absolutely loved it.

There may or may not be ghosts.
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Turn of the Screw.

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Can we agree that Socrates wasn't real?
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Socrates did exist. No idea what you're saying. Are you trying to make a statement of his popular characterization? We know him through Plato, who puts him on his hand and makes him dance.
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>>8379647
If Socrates weren't real, wouldn't Aristotle have said something?

>Plato is dear but truth is dearer still.

Also, his existence is attested to by both Xenophon and Aristophanes (who wrote The Clouds before Plato had written any dialogues). Why would Aristophanes write a satiric play about someone who didn't exist?

And, finally, even if Socrates didn't exist (which literally no historian believes), so what?
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>>8379665
>>8379676
OP is such a faggot he was proven a faggot twice the same way.

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He wrote so much. What should I even start with?
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>>8379584
Jack Black?
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>>8379584
Peter Fathead?
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>>8379584
Byron?

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Favorite Poe story and why
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>>8379572
probably the pendulum. because i had a vivid dream that i was cut in half afterwards.

that's the last time i eat indian food.
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>>8379572
purloined letter b/c thats the one that they use to teach lacan :3
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>>8379640
I didn't know that! What's the parallel made?

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Hi /lit.

I'm reading "universe from nothing", by Krauss. In a chapter, he says that Dirac discovered antimatter mathematically, and then they've been observed. This often happens in physics. So, I'm a big newbie in all this, and I've begun to wonder about those classical philosophical questions: what is math, is our universe a matemathical universe or math just based on our "mental forms", etc.

Can you give me some books that treat this topic? I'm really curious to read something about this.
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>>8379544
It's a pretty vast subject with a lot of different views which rely on larger bodies of philosophy.
First thing you should do is never touch anything by Krauss ever again, he doesn't know absolutely nothing about philosophy.
A lot of the things he argues against are aristotelian, but he doesn't know that, so really, start with the Greeks, The Republic, Laws, and Trial and Death of Socrates, Metaphysics, Nichomachian Ethics, Categories and Politics. With that you'll have a strong basis for...
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Krauss is a hack

Pick up a textbook for STEM
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>>8379544
firstly, get a textbook, don't just read shit pertaining a subject you understand nothing about.

secondly, math is the way humans have found to make sense of the world. the universe has nothing to do with math. humanity created math to describe and predict the universe trough physics.

also.
>Krauss
never again.

what do you want to study?
>philosophy
Start with the Greeks and work from there. for every hour read, you should...
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Any tips on discussion your antinatalist ideology with your parents?

You got me into this shit.
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>>8379487
Try not to discuss it in the first place?

If they're wondering why they don't have grandkids yet, just explain you're a socially retarded weirdo and can't even get a gf. Works for me.
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Not OP, but someone has references or advices please ? I do not have the time these days to study others things than what I have to do for my memoirs, but I will keep interesting recommandations near me.
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>your antinatalist ideology

Plebs should be banned, BANNED!

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is this pretty much Moby-Dick, but about a 12 year girl?
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more like Muh Dick amirite
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>>8379420
yea, u right
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>>8379420
/thread

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Is there a cheaper alternative to this Goethe's scientific studies?

I have the other 11 volumes but they were less than $7 each and volume 12 is going for $40. Or should I just wait till it ever comes up cheaper?
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>>8379342
Pirate them
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>>8379347
I already own the physical copies of the other 11 volumes.
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Check ebay for used copies, check amazon for used copies, check local bookstores for used copies.

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Our time for submissions is open, /lit/

Have you submitted anything yet?

Discuss ideas.

Don't let faggots from /gd/ who don't browse /lit/ be the only ones to submit and misrepresent the board.
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Make banners
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I was planning on doing one with Bloom, but there are too many good Bloom faces to pick.
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>>8379338
It doesn't matter, only people who don't browse /lit/ will vote

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Do you think that the juxtaposition of Ishmael's freedom verses Ahab's 'cage' of revenge and pursuit of the whale could be considered a major theme in this work? Or should I kill myself?
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So excited to read this, it'll be the next thing I'll read. Been so pre-occupied with things like Quixote and Juan.
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>>8379290
Was that the essay question you came up with, or your english teacher?
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>>8379303
English teacher. :^)

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Has anyone on /lit/ ever had their writings published?
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Got a couple poems published in a national collection back in college. Why?
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>>8379224
I'm thinking about making supplemental income off my hobby by self publishing through kindle, and was curious if any anons had experience with that sort of thing.
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we all did

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What is the Twin Peaks of literature?
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>>8379176
my diary desu
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Not /lit/ but have you played Deadly Premonition? It's Twin Peaks: the video game.
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>>8379176
>>8379207
I wonder if when asked the question, "whats the Twin Peaks of videogame" /v/ will reply with something like

>Not /v/, but have you read *****? Its It's Twin Peaks: the novel

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Your thoughts on him
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One ugly-ass Oscar the Grouch lookin' nigga
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>>8379166
imagine being so fat that you look at books and see food
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>>8379166
He looks like a melted Mark Twain tb.h
Monte Cristo was cool

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Making this thread because I'm wondering about a Russian book I saw talked about on here before. /lit/'s favorite character was a guy who decided he'd kill himself to die a martyr to prove God isn't necessary or some shit. Anyone know which book this was? 19th century, probably.
(Google gives me nothing)

Feel free to use thread to ask any other small questions that don't really deserve a whole thread.
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Bump. Noone knows the book I mean?
The OP who made a thread about it said "[the character who commits suicide] is a qt".
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Sounds like something out of Dostoevsky
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>>8379071
Demons by Dostoevsky

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What are some Lynchian books?
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Kafka
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Dunno, but DWF has a great essay on Lynch (great iff you like both DFW and Lynch)

http://www.lynchnet.com/lh/lhpremiere.html
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Hawkes has a few that capture a similar sort of feeling as Eraserhead.

The Cannibal
Death, Sleep & The Traveler
The Passion Artist
The Lime Twig
The Beetle Leg

Parts of Second Skin too I guess.

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Can anyone recomend a good book about the modern drug trade? Like, where different drugs are made and in which directions they are spread.
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I tried to find one, but I think you'll need to be more specific.
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>>8379044
Honestly, anything close to that would do.
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>>8379048
Escobar - Robert Escobar
Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond - Martin & Shlain
https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/drug-trafficking/

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Hello /lit/.
I need help. I was going to start reading Kierkegaard's Either/Or, but I'm not sure if I'm prepared. My introduction to philosophy proper was Camus' Stranger and Epictetus, but aside from that, I had little exposure to it, aside from some middle school philosophy classes, which left no impact.
Are the Greeks really needed to fully understand Either/Or? Can I read it without them?

My reason for reading is that Dostoevsky (and some Tolstoy) left a wish willing to believe in God, but my rebellious nihilistic teenager phase impacted...
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>>8378970
Like I've said an hour ago in a kierkegaard theread with the same OP picture, Plato (but not aristotle), kierk himself and hegel.
Kierkegaard is also a fideist, hence your belief according to him would be quite different than the one of st. Augustine, Aquinas and closer to Pascal.
Go for Confessions of Augustine as a more newbie friendly work which is also an earlier part of the philosophical history.
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>>8378970
Just try reading it and use the internet for help. For an intro to Kierk (but not to either-or) I recommend looking up Bert Dreyfuss's lectures at Berkeley. You can find them on itunes as a podcast.
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You don't really need to read anything before. He uses some Hegelian terminology, but you can look those terms up to see what he means.
the sparknotes page for Fear and Trembling has a terms page with these definitions

>nova trilogy
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>>8378903
sucks
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>>8378903
is great
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>>8378903
is okay

But why is the unexamined life not worth living? If I can just come home and down a half bottle of pills that keep me in a happy state and never have to think about reality, why is that actually worse than devoting myself to study.
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>>8378870
You might as well be a dog then.
Introspection and rationality are what makes a man a man.
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>>8378883
>g-guys am I living a good life?
you might aswell be a sheep them
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>>8378870
This is back when they believed a load of shit that essentially happiness more or less necessarily was a result of knowledge and correct perspective. Now it's more or less conventional wisdom that there is nothing but perspectives, some of which may lead to intense joy like buddhism and some which lead to shit like believing ernest becker or the far more trivial, pleb versions of becker like cioran and ligotti. I.e. life is bad and everyone secretly is awful because I'm ugly and sad

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Which of the three is your favourite, /lit/? Least liked?
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Favorite is Ulysses - it's good.
Least favorite is IJ - it's not good
GR - yes Tommy, your sure wrote down a lot of things. Very nice.
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>>8378776
Ulysses > GR > IJ

They're all fine but IJ is the least fine
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Ulysses is by far my favorite, really got a lot of great moments and I feel like Ive learned a lot with this book when it comes to seeing how great literature can be, amazing passages and moments, bored me only in a few chapters but that is really minimal. Leopold and Dedalus are among the most memorable and deep characters that I have found in any form of midia

Worst for me is IJ, some good passages, moments and characters, but A LOT of useless stuff, also the style is the weakest when compared to the other 2, still a good book tho

Also Ive read all 3 in portuguese, fight me

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Why do Anglo fags think that the "e" at the end of every single fucking word is always pronounced as "é"? Depending on the language in question, an "e" at the end of a word can often have an "ê" sound. Harambe, for example, which is a bantu word, is pronounced "harambê," not "harambé."
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>>8378734
D I X O U T
I X O U T D
X O U T D I
O U T D I X
U T D I X O
T D I X O U
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>>8378734
I think this thread would be more relevant in:

>>>/int/

and it would receive more inflammatory responses
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>>8378756
Inflammatory responses? Good, I want people to get butthurt about their own ignorance.

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Why is it that plebeians often dismiss Ayn Rand? I've also notice most of them haven't even read her but dismiss her because they've been told to. She did nothing wrong. She was right.
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Of course she was right. Most people are just fucking lazy and would rather read Infinite Jest and fall for the "I'm smart because I read haha" meme and dismiss anything that doesn't fall within their short-sighted mantra. Ayn Rand lived through hell and she realized what it took to fix the world, but much of the literary world is leftist as shit, so Ayn Rand is pretty much satan with a typewriter for them
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>>8378735
Shit, man. It makes me sad.
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>>8378722
because most of /lit/ hasn't actually read her and just repeats memes they see others posting.

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Any lit about a civilisation where people forwent their biological bodies and turned into machines
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>>8378647
Read, adopt and practise the Extropian Principles if you're into transhumanist philosophy.
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>>8378647
If you like GitS, you'd probably like Ghost in the machine by Arthur Koestler
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_R._Bunch

Moderan.

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Do you enjoy dick?
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>>8378553
no
Worst american writer
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>>8378553
Yes
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I made friends with the man with no face that some have secretly seen down here. He told me his story, in the afterlife he accidentally stuck his face out for a look as a life force wave was passing through and it took it completely off. He has no face at all, but this didn't stop him and didn't effect what we were doing together. He was with another boy (we were kids in this space) and they were trying to make an escape path horizontally from this space when I got there and there was an old man there next to a singularity deliberating about an escape path vertically...
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