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Is he an oldfag or a newfag?
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Newfag by my standards. Oldfag by yours.
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>>8371813
Not rek'd [ ]
Rek'd [ ]
Tyrannosaurus Rek's [X]
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>>8371804
>>8371813
I'm an oldfag by both of your standards.

>inb4 write something zany xD

Fuck off.

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Where's a good place to start with plato?
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Euthyphro -> Apology -> Crito -> Phaedo

Then read Symposium, Parmenides, the Republic ... and others if you so choose.
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>>8371821
any specific editions or translations you recommend?
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>>8371827
Plato: Complete Works by John M. Cooper

The only edition you'll ever require...

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this is actually the shit right here

in his literary persona, henry miller wrote the overman.

if you want a way out, here it is, kids. fuck the fraudulent beats, fuck buttoned-up joyce, follow miller to hell.
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You seem stupid.
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>>8371670

100%
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>>8371663
>stay fucked

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name one continental philosopher on Von Neumann's intellectual level
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LOL people become continental philosophers because they don't have the logical or mathematical intelligence to be someone like Von Neumann
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there isn't any
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Well, I am sure that even with great effort he would not be capable of writing greater works than Shakespeare. He would never be capable of sculpting the language in the same sublime intensity.

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Why does he hate his father so much?
He was a bit emotionally distant but that doesn't justify all that resentment.
Knausgard is a little drama queen...
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>>8371442
Every man wants to kill his father and fuck his mother.
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>>8371523
Not me, I'd rather kill my mother and fuck my dad.
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>>8371442
>why does he hate a useless alcoholic who fucked the entire family chemistry up

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What kind of reading will make you smarter?
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not science fiction for sure
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>>8371379
new yorker
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>>8371389
and fantasy

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How do you deal with rebelliousness?

Everything I've read so far has me leaning towards never settling, never being comfortable with what there is, but to change things and to turn them into what I want to achieve.

>inb4 communist faggot

I now realize that I need to rebel against what I believe. But I need other people's insights.

What is your take on this? Any books you can recommend?
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I realize I take inspiration from Hitler, Castro, Nietzsche, Hesse; guys that flipped the pancake either by work or by the way they lived.

I want to see if I'm wrong, I want to disprove myself. Help me do that.
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You are a teenager.
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>>8371356
I am not, friend. I know what I'm doing and I've read and lived enough to come to these conclusions. But I do acknowledge that I am young, but even so, I wish to learn more, have all the bases covered, if that's even possible.

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Hi /lit/, im basically new on reading, found out i love Neal Stephenson's books, rode all of them, which authors should i begin to read now that has similar content or so?
Heard that Thomas Pynchon is similar, what do you think?
Also thanks for helping.

>pic related, my favorite book.
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wtf are you doing?
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you may have heard that Stephenson's "Cryptonomicon" was like Pynchon's "Gravity's Rainbow".

this is not true, and was written by a moronic reviewer who noted that both books are partly about the second world war, and that they both have equations in the text.

Stephenson will never have a protagonist dress in a plush pig costume and escape from a gang of pissed-off tech sergeants via hot-air balloon.

if you're looking for an interesting author, check out Bruce Sterling. one of his most recent works, "the Caryatids"...
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>>8371305
Fuck everything about Stephenson.
>guys look at how smart I am in describing this thing I mean just THINK about it isn't it the most ingenious fucking description you've ever read seriously guys nobody can describe this thing the way I just did
>did you know the Makarov holster chambers a round when you draw the gun? lololol it's so cool and I'm never going to fucking mention it again and it has no literary relevance whatsoever but I just...
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Is this how i get into philosophy? https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL24E8CD3214E5C748
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>>8371301

No, just read books.

I started with Schopenhauer, then Kant, then Plato, then Nietzsche.

In hindsight I would have started with the Greeks, though.
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>>8371301
That's one way, but you should definitely read books too. Any of the ones that interest you -- if you really have no clue, starting with the Greeks isn't actually a massive meme. Listening to philosophy-without-gaps could be a good (very) basic overview of anything you need to have pre-knowledge of.
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>>8371321
Terrible way to start.

>Only reading the popular memes.

and that order, oh Lord.

What is your favorite book cover?
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>>8371300
If I see any minimalist covers I'm going to kill myself.
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that book just happens to have my favorite painting on it's cover.
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Second Foundation is better. The Signal and the Noise is a fun design.

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I often hear Dhalgren is as complex as Ulysses and Gravity's Rainbow? is this true
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Why doesn't he write sci-fi anymore? Why does he only write icky erotica now?
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>>8371284
Because he became a sodomite

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>Page 692 of Infinite Jest.
>DFW explains how Kate Gompert feels with her psychotic depression.
>Hold back sympathy tears.

Thoughts?

>INB4 a bunch of ironic comments about babby's first existential crisis.
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>>8371264

Kate Gompert is easily the most sympathetic and interesting character of the novel. I wish there was more her and less diaper jokes in the book. I imagine that maybe it was too personal for Dave to write about her so much, but I'm still disappointed.
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>>8371264
IJ got me a lot. mostly the bit where Mario asks the moms how to tell if someone (hal) is sad, and again when he touches the "touch me" guy. had to take a minute.
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>>8371264
why am I imagining NMH's "The Fool" being played in pic?

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Do we have a reading guide for Zizek? If not we should make a chart, including essentials of his respective influences, Freud, Lacan, Hegel and Marx would be essential.
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>>8371174

Phenomenology of Spirit
greater Logic
Philosophy of History

The German Ideology
Theses
Contribution
Capital I, II, III

Introductory Lecturas
Three Essays
Psychopathology of Everyday Life
Jokes and the Unc.
A few case studies (Dora, Wolf Man, Rat Man)
Totem and Taboo
The Ego and the Id
Beyond the Pleasure Principle

Écrits
Four Fundamental Concepts
seminar on Transference

now, that's just the main figures themselves. then there's the...
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Zizi for babbys :https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Slavoj-Zizek-Graphic-Guide/dp/1848312938
But actually not toooo bad to get a first impression..
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You guys have it backwards. Reading Marx, Hegel, and Lacan to understand Zizek is like reading Darwin and Lucretius to better understand Richard Dawkins.

> The cornucopia (from Latin cornu copiae) or horn of plenty is a symbol of abundance and nourishment, commonly a large horn-shaped container overflowing with produce, flowers or nuts.

How do i get into symbolism? Recommend me a book.
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>>8371160
I recommend a lot of books.
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finnegans wake
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>>8371168

James Joyce was actually a black author called Jamal Jose.

The book you're referring to was originally called Finnegan's Woke.

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Which of his books are actually worth reading?
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V.
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>>8371079
V.
Gravity's Rainbow
Vineland
Mason & Dixon
Your favorite subplot of Against the Day
A Journey into the Mind of Watts
Pandemonium of the Sun
The Recognitions
Cow Country
The Meritorious Price of Our Redemption
Liner Notes for "Spiked! The Music of Spike Jones"
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All except Slow Learner and his other early stories

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will continental philosophy ever recover from this?
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>>8370980
>Analytic Philosophy
>"Here is one hand, here is another. Therefore, the world exists."
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>>8370993

That's fucking hilarious. Smart people like me already realised that philosophy is for social posturing (I'm the Munchhausen trilemma poster). The hand thing is philosophers becoming aware of it

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>picrelated was me in may
>read nothing since
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Stop focusing on only shit that you hate and maybe you'll stop being bitter and abhoring subjective shit that doesn't matter. Think of something beyond yourself and other people for once and see what happens.
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>>8370906
At least you're still on /lit/. I'm so glad.
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>>8370937
lol'd

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explain why she's so terrible
"fedora" is not a valid answer
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>>8370891
Reality isn't objective
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her books aren't very well written
i can live with having a philosophy crammed down my throat if it's an entertaining read, but her books are bit boring
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>>8370896
Well, that's one opinion....

How can one man be so based?
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>>8370861
He had Tourette's and autism
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>>8370861
He's the absolute spirit of reddit as far as humanities goes.
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>>8370865
>autism
don't we all
>>8370876
>le reddit

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How do I stop visualizing characters as anime?
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>>8370638
stop watching anime.
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>>8370638
Stop being a fucking autist weeaboo-manchild dickface.
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>>8370654
/thread

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What mathematical concepts are essential for a patrician to know?

Recommend books.
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start with the greeks
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>>8370620

pi
euler's number
calculus
Riemann's hypothesis
0.999999... = 1
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>>8370620
Conchoids of Nicomedes

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What does /lit/ think of Hermann Hesse? I just read Siddhartha and I loved it. What are some other works by him that are good?

What I liked is that it was short and not pretentious, while also being very intellectual and written beautifully in only ~150 pages. Other authors like DFW or Pynchon would have taken the same story and made it over 1,000 pages. This was especially a relief because I just finished Infinite Jest before reading this.
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>>8370596
define pretentious
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You know how some food starts to disgust you if it just happens you get sick soon after? Like eating a can of sardines and then getting the norovirus. I haven't eaten sardines for years. Nor have I read Hesse since I was 16. Rosshalde is a nice piece though. A sort of book where one looks back at his failures. Like "A Little Cloud" by Joyce or maybe some Turgenev story. Or Wild Strawberries, but not as good as any of these.
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>>8370599

Is English not your first language?

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In 3 sentences, explain the essence of fashion and its appeal.
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Shit looks good.
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>>8370508
read doors of perception. thatll help
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>>8370508
This is how analytics actually talk when you try to tell them to not wear shirts that are two sizes too big.

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>the plebs of /lit/ are so obsessed with John Green, they've forgot about the one true King of YA Fiction

Christopher Paolini, gifted author of Eragon, is about to drop his 1000-page science fiction novel.

Are you ready for the ultimate patrician space opera masterpiece?
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So he's going to rip off Episode 4 again?
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>>8370510
Nah, I think the obvious plagiarism is something he's now crazy ashamed of. If you ask me, it's the biggest reason part three got split into two books: he desperately needed to make the conclusion original so his "It's only derivative!" claim could hold up.

Unsurprisingly, the conclusion is by far the shittiest part of the entire shitshow.
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>>8370513
I thankfully turned 12 soon enough to realize how shitty his juvenile crap really was. Jonathan Stroud was at least somewhat entertaining and original.

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>when I was younger
>"Lol the curtains were just red, who cares, why am I being told to find subjective conclusions and being judged as if they're objective?!"

>When I was older and smarter
>"The curtains were red for a very intelligent reason by the genius author, a reason which gives maximum insight in to human nature and the objectivity of aesthetics, not that I will dare ask why I should care about those or why everything is so...
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>>8370468
>non RP accent
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Who are you possibly quoting?
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the curtains were red cuz the author is a fucking commie

Which author do you steal from?
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harry potter.
not the best books but holy shit, the franchise is huge.
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>>8370447
harry potter was not an author, he was an auror and didnt even exist irl

lrn 2 read
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Heinlein

can something abstract ever be good? doubt it
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>>8370415
you're a fucking idiot, what about broadway boogie woogie.
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>>8370418
good point, maybe conceptual was a better word
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>>8370421
>>8370418
>>8370415
same

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Name a work of fiction edgier than this.
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>>8370381
American Psycho just because of how tryhard it is.
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>>8370381
The Darkness That Came Before by Bakker, hands down.
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Cows by Matthew Stokoe
High Life, also by him
Babyfucker, I've been told
Some Edogawa Ranpo stories, but I guess it's because Suehiro Maruo did a stellar job turning them into manga form

Just naming a few

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Okay lads its time for a Maupassant thread.
Favorite story?
Opinions on Boule de Suif?
In the Bedroom and The Decoration were my favs.
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>>8370324
http://www.cosmoetica.com/B311-DES251.htm
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My aunt loves his stuff and gave me his "Best short stories" for birthday.

It's a fucking Wordsworth edition, they don't even name the translator. Has anyone read it? Is it acceptable? (inb4 >translation)
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>>8370480
who is the translator?

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>the categorical imperative
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>>8370187
dumb animeposter
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>>8370187
>morals are subjective
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>>8370193
>>8370201
it's quite a coincidence that none of the posts shared on /r/4chan are from the anime/weeb boards, don't you think?


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