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Anyone seen this? The Guardian is running a lit prize with voting open to the public. Obviously authors are voting for their own book multiple times.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2016/aug/02/not-the-booker-prize-very-longlist-2016-votes-please

Also, what do people think of literary prizes in general?
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Hey, it's me, Mr. Guard. We have no money left for a committee so let's just dump the whole thing on the internet! Let's be extra lazy and even ask for reviews.

Next up: let's just deliver empty pages and pens to our readers, let them write their own paper.
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>>8363357
they're shit.

>over 100 books

there cant possibly be that many books that deserve nomination. theres probably 30, maybe less. This is just following a slew of "diversity" and "my fave wasnt nominated" innanet articles about the manbooker which is almost as bad, except they have the balls to restrain their long list.
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Why is Moore's Jerusalem on a public vote list when it's not been published yet?
Why did I even click that?

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Is this a good book if I wanna get into Epictetus? And also, if someone has it, is the ''handbook'' part the same as Enchiridion? I don't wanna buy Enchiridion too if it's the same thing.
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>>8363340
Yes that is all of the surviving work of Epictetus, and some of the best shit ever written. As you go through it, check your understanding with YouTube lectures.
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>>8363345
Thank, lad.
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>>8363340
Enchiridion is Greek for "thing in the hand." Hence, Handbook.

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>gonna
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>>8363039
>prescriptivism
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>>8363049
> Degeneracy
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>>8363039
>dung-breath

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/lit/, I'm not that much of a reader (besides reading weeb shit), but I need something to distract my mind (suffering from anxiety), and I'm tired of just watching TV all day and playing vidya
Anyway, I've read a few books here and there, favorite one I've read so far is Ready Player One by Ernest Cline.
What books do you guys recommend?
I'd like a cool sci fi novel, or something, just whatever is fine.
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>>8362937
finnegans wake
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>>8362937
>besides reading weeb shit

Fuck off and go back to /a/
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>>8362948
Funny thing is I don't even go on /a/

I was told that P&V were overrated, and since I already owned a Penguin Dostoyevsky book (NFU), I went with this version.
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Would you trust someone who can't speak fluent Russian to translate a Russian novel?

Then why would you trust Richard Pevear?
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P&V is actually quite good
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>>8362781
I've read this edition, it's good

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What are the best horror short stories?
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What is some good horror literature in general? I've largely avoided horror lit. What's good?
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The Wendigo by Blackwood
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/lit/'s favorite author just made a video about Lord of the Flies

https://youtu.be/WfNiQBXmPw8

discuss
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He can't keep getting away with it!
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>>8362683

>John, the way of imagining civilization where more advanced societies are on top and less advanced societies are on the bottom is FLATLY WRONG, Green (6:55)
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John Green got a beard

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Thoughts on Ernst J√ľnger? Just ordered Storm of Steel, what should I read beyond that?
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"i shot teh gun very gudly. everytome i pulled the trigger one of the savages fell to tfe floor. war makes me tuff. i am a cool guy. not like the pussy kids of today."
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>>8362634
'tey shot teh very gudly at me. evertim tey pulled the trigger my frens die. war make me sad. i am a sensitiv guy. not like dum dums who cause war'

-(((British))) war ''''''''''poets''''''''''
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On The Marble Cliffs is pretty comfy, senpai

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Show us your fresh memes

Template is going to be first reply
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>>8361835
strangely accurate

nice meme

Can anyone recommend some bizzare literature? A la the twilight zone?
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House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski
>pic related
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>>8361692
DUDE LABYRINTHS LMAO
The book feels like a tryhard YA Borges wank.
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O Henry le tweests
Ray Bradbury lots of authors including him wrote for the series

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>Mom remembers reading gogol, pushkin, dostoevsky in elementary school as a girl in Moscow
>Little brother in 11th grade is currently reading John Green, 1984, and farenheit 451 for english

Why is this allowed?
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>>8361604
1984 is a good introduction tho
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>tfw had to read Quixote when i was 14 years old
Are english kids retarded?
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>>8361604

that's what a communist revolution does to your educational system, m8. Imagine what kids will read if Trumpie gets the office.

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was he the biggest shitposter of all time?
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>>8361467
He was a Fucking White Male
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>tfw you realize philosophy is advanced lshitposting
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>>8361467
implyin

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Hey /lit/. Rate the first paragraph of my novella. And feel free to post your own first paragraphs. I'd like to discuss what makes an engaging opening to a story.

The arrival on the platform was disorienting. As always, it took a few moments for my vision to adjust and for my stomach to settle. Right away, I noticed things were amiss. The lights in the large, white, circular chamber, usually oppressive, were dim. The gawky lab technicians assigned to greet all new visitors were nowhere to be seen. A steadily increasing burning sensation was affecting the soles of...
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0/10 i'm not your fucking editor
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Too many useless adjectives.
Prose needs to flow too.
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I haven't been to /lit/ in a while, but threads like this are fairly common?

I'm legitimately interested in talking about the art of the opening paragraph. Do you use terse, declarative sentences to command your reader's attention, or long winded ones, chock full of clauses and asides, to strike a jovial tone and prepare your reader for the complexities of the text to follow?

How much do you reveal? What elements of plot do you make sure to allude to?

I know that my writing is at...
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Does this book deserve being regarded as a classic in your opinion? What do you think about it?
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Yes, it's is hilarious. Gogol set the stage for all future Russian authors (haven't heard of one that didn't like him and was not influenced by him).
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>>8361216
It's a poser book, nobody that isn't slav can understand it, but they like the image so they will convince themselves they did
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good literature, but don't see what's supposed to be SO great about it

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Are there any good books where the villain is a woman?
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my diary desu
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>>8360318
Where can I find a copy?
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it would be misogynist to have a female villain

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If a book is sexist, does it lower it's value?
Are books like Huck Finn, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and The Lord of the Flies, all considered sexist on some scale, weakened in plot or meaning by sexism?
Can sexism ruin a work?
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Nah
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Sexism doesn't exist since men are actually superior.
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>>8360090
>If a book is sexist, does it lower it's value?
that depends on how you measure it's value. overall artistic merit, no.
>Are books like Huck Finn, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and The Lord of the Flies, all considered sexist on some scale, weakened in plot or meaning by sexism?
plot, no. I don't see what that would do much with plot.
meaning, no. In Aesop's fables all the characters are animals, we don't struggle to find meaning....
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Do you listen to any literature or philosophy related podcasts?

If so, which ones?
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>>8359976
my fucking ass i need to shit
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History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps by Peter Adamson
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Waking up with Sam Harris

(just kidding guys dw)

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What are some books that will feed my secret desire of becoming a Jason Bourne-type figure with a wide range of skills and leading a revolution? Pic very related.
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>>8359034
Is that the alternative title to Uncle Tom's Cabin?
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>>8359046
Spook who sits by the door means a black employee that was hired and made visible so business owners could show that they hire Negros back in the day. It's like the 50's and 60's version of the Facebook rainbow thing.

In this book, the CIA is told to recruit one token black guy who then becomes an expert on military and intelligence shit, learns how to fight, studies guerrilla wars and communist movements and then launches an insurgency on US soil.

It's the american "What Is to Be Done?"
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Prove your not a grammar Nazi.
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>>8357725

>you're
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>>8357725
*grammer
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Prove grammer Nazi not yours.

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Wow! The goodreads group requests were much more than I expected (11). We are still looking for members and welcome all applicants at: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/195303-lit-club

This time lets work on finding a place to chat and figure out more about group readings -- which is a subject I brought up last time, and I hope that we make progress in this thread.

Awesome as always,
Alice
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What is it you want to achieve with this group?
Random book discussions or group readings?
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Just how many more /lit/ groups do you guys want to make?

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/67886-lit-revival-of-the-revival
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/29373-lit
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>>8356983
group readings

>>8357368
I just want one that's alive and I have friends from old ones that want to come back.

Why do people here hate this?
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>>8356203
They do? I have it, tell me why I should read it.
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>>8356456

I have it too but never bothered to pick it up. Only bought it bc it was on discount in the first place
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>>8356203
They don't. They just find it disappointing compared to his best books, which is entirely fair.

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I just bought a KOBO glo HD
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I have physical books
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Kindle Paperuwhitu
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Sony Reader Touch PRS 600

- epub : great
- image pdf : takes ages to adjust zoom to every page, took years until I found a program to solve this
- lost years of highlighted notes (maybe because of using WinXP ?)
- slot for SD cards
- requites good lighting

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What makes you 'go' and live life everyday?

Why bother? What are you aiming toward? Respect? Women? Steady drip of dopamine?
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>>8353869
well I'm already alive. just gotta keep that ball rollin
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pussy and religion
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>>8353869
I have no fucking idea, the universe is pointless

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How do I find a literary bf?
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I'll be gay if you stay away from my ass.
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>>8353335
ok will u fuk my boipucci tho?
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>>8353331
SF

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What language are you learning and why? +General language thread

Arabic, because it's extremely interesting and I find it very rewarding, I'm using several sources on the internet as well as books

>How many languages do you speak and which?
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>>8347832
Hebrew, because of my jewish heritage and also because of general interest in qabbalism and the talmud.
I speak Estonian, Russian and English very well.
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Native English. Good Latin and Greek. Sanskrit. French. Classical Arabic.

Esperanto, but I don't like it, so I stopped.
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>>8347832
I got a few books on Low Saxon, which is reduced to dialects in my country. Tried learning Russian but gave up because I want to spend my time differently.

I speak English and Dutch.

So, will there ever be a novelization of this?
Fan novelization?
I'm not gong to read a fucking script cause the author was too lazy to write an actual book.
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>>8342726
who cares, honestly
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>>8342726
>too lazy to write an actual book.
But Anon, it is a book.
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>>8342736
It's a screenplay.

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Can I read this book at night? what the hell is going on??
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it's recommended that you read all of his prior fiction and non-fiction and the DT Max biography and probably several interviews before diving into IJ. I find it easier to read during the day.
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>>8369704
whats his name again?
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>>8369716
Wallace and Gromit

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>read a book
>some nigger decided he wanted to save on paper and printed it like this
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>>8369633
Why does 4chan hate me?
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>>8369633
you shouldn't be ready a shit edition of a large classic like that
don't you have access to a library?
get the landmark edition so you have the cool maps
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>>8369666
I've got the maps and the book was free, and I've got no idea what you're trying to convey here
>you shouldn't be ready a shit edition of a large classic like that
I really just wanted to post this because he ate his son and was fine with it.

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Does /lit/ take kindly to screenwriting?
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Dennis Potter is unbeaten
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/lit/ doesn't take kindly to anything.
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>>8369602
Say what you will about his actual films, but Rick Alverson's scripts are absolutely GOAT. The script to Entertainment might be more gut wrenching than the actual film.

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Are there any "so bad it's good" books?
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List of the Lost by Morrissey
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Pulp magazines.
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anything by jason myers, who is worse than palanhuik and green


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